Will cdrs wear out a pc engine cd system?

[Drakon]

I'd like to play cdr backups of my pc engine cd games so I can store the originals.  I'm wondering, would playing a cdr wear out the cd drive faster than using an original cd?

[roflmao]

Here we go again.

[CrackTiger]

Possibly faster, but you are wearing it out either way. Lasers are cheap and easy to install though and you can get decades of playtime out of one whether you play cdrs, original discs or both.

[Nando]

Shinny Sony CD'rs is what I have been recommended in the past. There's also a good group of members here that can work on your CD unit if needed be. I got mine from BlueBMW

[T2KFreeker]

Here we go again.

I agree.

[PunkCryborg]

man if you have originals but don't play them,.,....whats the point of even owning them?

[CrackTiger]

man if you have originals but don't play them,.,....whats the point of even owning them?

Prestige.

[HercTNT]

My new favorite thread. As for the OP, i have cdr's and have been playing them with no issue. some members claim doom and destruction, but i have not seen this myself.

[SignOfZeta]

man if you have originals but don't play them,.,....whats the point of even owning them?

No shit.

[jlued686]

OH NOOOOOOOO! NOT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

[CGQuarterly]

man if you have originals but don't play them,.,....whats the point of even owning them?

Yeah, right?  I use my Turbo Everdrive (and my NeoFlash before that) instead of playing HuCards, but that's just because I'm lazy.  Making CDR backups of my CD games is way too much work and serves no purpose.  You're not going to wear your CDs out.

Chris

[wilykat]

Needs more facepalm

[Bernie]

I make backups of all my CD games.  Not sure why....but I do it anyway with TurboRip.

[Tatsujin]

cdr's are as much fun as watching my grama knitting some wool socks.

[Drakon]

Oh okay great.  When the laser dies in the original 1988 pc engine cd unit is it easy to buy and install a replacement laser?

Sorry if these questions have been posted before I didn't find the threads and I just want to make sure all of my bases are covered.  Whenever I buy a piece of hardware I like to learn as much as I possible can about it (especially if it's something that'll eventually die like a cd system).

[SamIAm]

Buy quality discs, burn a test game once with each burner you can get your hands on, and go with the one that produces the discs that your system has the least trouble reading. It should be OK.

Don't forget, one of the PCE-CD's dirty little secrets is that tons of games have poorly balanced audio. When you burn a CD, you can pre-amplify the redbook tracks and fix that. Once you make Gate of Thunder so that you can actually hear the music, you'll never go back, even if you have an original copy.

[_Paul]

OH NOOOOOOOO! NOT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

It's our fault for not having a good FAQ stickied somewhere!

[Drakon]

OH NOOOOOOOO! NOT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

It's our fault for not having a good FAQ stickied somewhere!

Yeah I think something stickied with all this great info would be excellent for people such as myself.

[CGQuarterly]

Oh okay great.  When the laser dies in the original 1988 pc engine cd unit is it easy to buy and install a replacement laser?

Sorry if these questions have been posted before I didn't find the threads and I just want to make sure all of my bases are covered.  Whenever I buy a piece of hardware I like to learn as much as I possible can about it (especially if it's something that'll eventually die like a cd system).

Don't worry, nobody is dumping on your anything.  This topic just comes up a lot, that's all.

Chris

[BigusSchmuck]

About the only time I have had a duo fail on me was when playing Meteor Blaster DX. Doesn't matter if its a cdr your burned or its the original disk, that game just causes epic failures. Anyway:
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=875.0
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=751.0
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=11233.0
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=1566.0
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=758.0
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=2967.0
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=927.0
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=730.0
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=3967.0
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=6918.0
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=6553.0
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=4377.0
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=8035.0
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=9541.0
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=4611.0
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=3879.0
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=4601.0
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=9004.0
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=4561.0
There, you got a novels worth of stuff to read.

[Drakon]

Awesome thanks a lot.  Someone probably should sticky some sort of generic info thread.

[jlued686]

Yeah, we're not picking on you for asking. Don't take it personally. It's just that the great CDR debate is always lurking somewhere, waiting to consume us all.

[Firebomber7]

cdr's are as much fun as watching my grama knitting some wool socks.

Holy shit, you are alive. Why don't you come into chat anymore?

Oh, and before it's asked... driving your car will wear out your tires faster than not driving it.

[jperryss]

Oh, and before it's asked... driving your car will wear out your tires faster than not driving it.

Weak comparison. A car tire has to deal with rolling friction, nails, potholes, etc. A CD makes contact with nothing while in use, other than the spindle that holds it in place (and there is no rolling/sliding between the two surfaces once the disc is in place). And even in a case on the shelf, the spindle is a factor.

If I bought two copies of the same game, but left one running in a CD player for 10 years straight while the other one stayed on the shelf, you wouldn't be able to tell which one was used.

Vinyl would be another story.

[esadajr]

Basically use good quality media and burn at the slowest possible speed, and whenever possible, use the original disc.

[OldMan]

If I bought two copies of the same game, but left one running in a CD player for 10 years straight while the other one stayed on the shelf, you wouldn't be able to tell which one was used.

Yes. But you would be able to tell the difference in the cd player.
Which was the topic, was it not?

[PunkCryborg]

One day your cd rom will fail. One day your cds will fail. One day you will fail. Might as well play your games in their cd rom and enjoy them all while you can

[jperryss]

If I bought two copies of the same game, but left one running in a CD player for 10 years straight while the other one stayed on the shelf, you wouldn't be able to tell which one was used.

Yes. But you would be able to tell the difference in the cd player.
Which was the topic, was it not?

Which component of an optical drive wears out a CD, and how so? Honest question.  CD's don't wear out by being played like a tape or record does.

[blueraven]

Oh, and before it's asked... driving your car will wear out your tires faster than not driving it.

Re: This whole thread 

[CrackTiger]

Oh okay great.  When the laser dies in the original 1988 pc engine cd unit is it easy to buy and install a replacement laser?

Sorry if these questions have been posted before I didn't find the threads and I just want to make sure all of my bases are covered.  Whenever I buy a piece of hardware I like to learn as much as I possible can about it (especially if it's something that'll eventually die like a cd system).

Playing HuCards will also kill your Card slot (my main (heavily modded) setup until recently can't play HuCards anymore). Even if you don't play your hardware at all, things are rotting inside and will eventually need repair work. It's better to have things eventually break down and be able to say you got enjoyment out of a console than to neglect it and have it break down anyway.

[OldMan]

Which component of an optical drive wears out a CD,

and again, you miss the point.
The CD may not wear out, but the drive sure will.

(note: the topic subject says -nothing- about cdrs/cds wearing out.)

[Bernie]

Old Man,  dealing with idiots here.  May as well be talking the wall.

[jperryss]

Which component of an optical drive wears out a CD,

and again, you miss the point.
The CD may not wear out, but the drive sure will.

(note: the topic subject says -nothing- about cdrs/cds wearing out.)

Um, the first post suggests he does not want to wear out his CDs, doesn't it? If not then please reread the first post and tell me why the OP is using CDRs for the games he owns.

In case YOU missed MY point, I have no issues with CDRs. Yes, the topic has been beaten to death here.

[blueraven]

[HercTNT]

He specifically mentions the drive. i'm not choosing sides, just letting you know so you can fix your post.

[Drakon]

double post

[Drakon]

Which component of an optical drive wears out a CD,

and again, you miss the point.
The CD may not wear out, but the drive sure will.

(note: the topic subject says -nothing- about cdrs/cds wearing out.)

Um, the first post suggests he does not want to wear out his CDs, doesn't it? If not then please reread the first post and tell me why the OP is using CDRs for the games he owns.

In case YOU missed MY point, I have no issues with CDRs. Yes, the topic has been beaten to death here.

I'd like to play cdr backups of my pc engine cd games so I can store the originals.  I'm wondering, would playing a cdr wear out the cd drive faster than using an original cd?

Yes people I'm fully aware that things eventually break.  The whole point of this thread is to figure out the best way to treat the hardware to keep it functional for as long as possible.

[HercTNT]

Just take good care of it. What they are trying to tell you is it does not matter what you do. It could die today, it could die 10 years from now. if it breaks, there are people here than can fix it, cheaply. Play it, enjoy it, have fun doing it.

[Drakon]

Just take good care of it. What they are trying to tell you is it does not matter what you do. It could die today, it could die 10 years from now. if it breaks, there are people here than can fix it, cheaply. Play it, enjoy it, have fun doing it.

Great I didn't know if they're easy to fix or not.  I'm also wondering where I can buy a replacement laser for the original pc engine cd unit.

[HercTNT]

the mods sections goes into it. unless you know how to put one in though, your better off having one of the techs do if for you.

[Bernie]

Get with BlueBMW or one thesteve.  They normally buy these.  I believe BlueBMW has a ton in stock right now actually Drakon.

[Drakon]

Get with BlueBMW or one thesteve.  They normally buy these.  I believe BlueBMW has a ton in stock right now actually Drakon.

Much appreciated!

[OldMan]

Old Man,  dealing with idiots here.  May as well be talking the wall.

Yeah, I got that. I just get tired of people asking the same old things, and never actually listening to the (long discussed) arguements and thinking about it, or even searching to see if it's been discussed before

Um, the first post suggests he does not want to wear out his CDs, doesn't it?.....

Um, not really. He may be worried about them getting scratched or something. He just says he wants to store them, without mentioning why. You just assumed it's because he's worried they will wear out.

In case YOU missed MY point, I have no issues with CDRs.

Yet. And when you do, the repair guys are here to help. Maybe.

[jperryss]

Ok man, whatever. I have no post to "fix".

Yes of course a CD drive wears out with use. My response was based on my interpretation of the comment as comparing discs to tires.

I was not the OP in this thread. Sorry if you're sick of people asking the same questions, but this isn't my thread.

I misinterpreted a comment. No need to call me an idiot.

[HercTNT]

Jerry, i was not attacking you, i was actually trying to help. You made the statement that he was trying to protect his cd's. If you read his post, he specifically says hes trying to save wear and tear on his machine, the he follows it up by stating that he does not care about the cd's he's fine with whatever. I was trying to give you a chance to correct it before it started to look like you had no clue what your talking about. Your dead wrong on this one, and were giving Theoldman an attitude. He eventually got irritated with you because it was obvious you werent going to listen no matter what he said.

In case you missed in, this is what drakon said:

Yes people I'm fully aware that things eventually break.  The whole point of this thread is to figure out the best way to treat the hardware to keep it functional for as long as possible.

notice he says "point of the thread" and "best way to treat the hardware to keep it functional for as long as possible".

[Firebomber7]

Which component of an optical drive wears out a CD, and how so? Honest question.  CD's don't wear out by being played like a tape or record does.

You might want to take a look at the title and OP of this thread again. It's as it was originally and has not been edited. No excuses.  


-edited to add a violin

[jperryss]

OK, my very last post in this thread and then I'm done.

You might want to take a look at the title and OP of this thread again. It's as it was originally and has not been edited. No excuses.

Yes, I am fully aware that this thread started out with, basically "how do I preserve my optical drive while playing CD-Rs?".

Back on page 1 there was a comment along the lines of "if you own the originals why the hell aren't you playing them". Reading through the comments following that post, I was stuck on the idea that the OP might've thought playing his originals was wearing them out.

Combine that with this comment on page 2:

Oh, and before it's asked... driving your car will wear out your tires faster than not driving it.

And at this point in the thread I'm reading this as a comparison between CDs and tires, not optical drives and tires (I already explained this in my last post).
So I replied saying it was a weak comparison (true statement based on how I read it, even if it was a misfire).

The next response to me:

Yes. But you would be able to tell the difference in the cd player.
Which was the topic, was it not?

He meant a CD player that had played a disc for 10 years straight would show a difference, not that a CD player would be able to tell that the CD had been played for 10 years straight, which prompted my next response that I've been mocked for. Again, I misread this one, and that's painfully obvious now.

There was no need for name-calling, I was 100% cordial up to that point and did not give attitude to anyone. Let me show you again my last post where I was allegedly giving attitude:

Which component of an optical drive wears out a CD, and how so? Honest question.  CD's don't wear out by being played like a tape or record does.

So again...Yes, I misread a few comments here. Yes, I inadvertently derailed this thread. Yes, I'm sorry to the OP for jacking and derailing this thread. Can we please move on?

[HercTNT]

The reason some people around here get so testy so fast, is new comers have the tendency to read threads like the head line on a newspaper. you guys will only read part of a post, or skip to the last post written and then comment on that. Its not an end all offense, but it does cause severe confusion and frustration sometimes. Maybe you got jumped alittle early, its obvious its a misunderstanding.

[Firebomber7]

The reason some people around here get so testy so fast, is new comers have the tendency to read threads like the head line on a newspaper. you guys will only read part of a post, or skip to the last post written and then comment on that. Its not an end all offense, but it does cause severe confusion and frustration sometimes. Maybe you got jumped alittle early, its obvious its a misunderstanding.

That's pretty much the case. This site is a bit similar to Neo-Geo.com in that way. If you make it though the initiation period, you'll be fine... unless your initials are D.M.

[Drakon]

You people are really all that obsessed with I wouldn't want to play the originals?  I drop things, cds get scratched, I'd rather play a backup and wear and tear on that.