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Magical Chase the Windows 95 version!!

Started by Otaking, 07/26/2016, 02:43 PM

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Otaking

I don't check eBay (or Yahoo.jp) much these days for games, but yesterday I went on eBay and had a surf about and saw Magical Chase Windows 95 version for sale!! http://www.ebay.com/itm/232022492770
this is crazy rare, that is literally the only one I have ever seen for sale.
I'm not encouraging anyone to buy it, that particular seller has a very shady history of selling high priced fake Neo Geo Aes games such as Metal Slug. Oh before someone says there's two on eBay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/282108928742 that's alt accounts of the same one seller, selling one item, route7nakano and tokyotoyfactory are the same seller.

I wonder how the game plays, if there is any differences between Windows 95 and the PC Engine or TurboGrafx versions.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86jH2UQmvKY&t=812s
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sirhcman

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Quote from: Otaking on 07/26/2016, 02:43 PMI wonder how the game plays, if there is any differences between Windows 95 and the PC Engine or TurboGrafx versions.
I am intrigued, buy it and let us know how it is! 

EDIT: quick google search turned up the iso with a patch if you want to download and try it for yourself

Nazi NecroPhile

I've not yet played it myself (though I downloaded the ISO months ago), but others have reported that it's essentially the PCE game, using the same music and without the US version graphical updates.
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xcrement5x

That price is pretty lulzy to me.  I feel like anything that is even remotely related to Magical Chase somehow gets a price bump "just because".

The ISO would be neat to play with at least though!
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Sarumaru

It's just PCE magical chase running on a custom emulator for PC much like EGG did for Valis collection on PC. Same shit, nothing special.

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PunkCryborg

Quote from: guest on 07/26/2016, 03:34 PMThat price is pretty lulzy to me.  I feel like anything that is even remotely related to Magical Chase somehow gets a price bump "just because".

The ISO would be neat to play with at least though!
$250 would be about what it's worth normally when it pops up on yahoo and other JP sites

deubeul


Otaking

Quote from: PunkCryborg on 07/26/2016, 11:36 PM
Quote from: guest on 07/26/2016, 03:34 PMThat price is pretty lulzy to me.  I feel like anything that is even remotely related to Magical Chase somehow gets a price bump "just because".

The ISO would be neat to play with at least though!
$250 would be about what it's worth normally when it pops up on yahoo and other JP sites
For years I used to search Yahoo.jp every day and I never saw it once, let alone ever on eBay.
In fact I know of gaijin who've been living in Japan for 15 years and have never once seen a copy.
This a truly rare item. Or maybe it was a rare item, I've been out the loop of buying and searching for games for a few years now, maybe these days it has become more common.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86jH2UQmvKY&t=812s
Quote from: some block off youtubeIn one episode, Dodongo c-walks out of a convenience store with a 40 at 7:40 AM, steals an arcade machine from an auction, haggles in Spanish for a stuffed papa smurf to use as a sex toy, and buys Secret of Mana for a dollar.

Medic_wheat

Considering it the same exact pictures yeah duplicate listing.


However it seems for NA he has it at a 30% discount lol. Sigh. I'll just stick with my PCE copy. Maybe a rom on my everdrive if I ever want to play the NA port.

Medic_wheat

https://www.ebay.com/itm/311012474307

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Accept my totally reasonable offer!


Because there is no way $99,999 is going to happen. For a holy grail.

SuperDeadite

Yeah, it's nothing too special.  100% identical to the PCE game.  Only difference is that it runs in 640x480, so depending on your monitor/tv it might look better then when played on a PCE.  It runs totally fine for me in Win 7 64bit.   You just need to run the installer in compatibility mode and the game will only run in 256 colors.

Price wise, it pops up here in Japan often enough and usually goes for $100 or so.
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Otaking

Quote from: SuperDeadite on 07/27/2016, 12:08 PMPrice wise, it pops up here in Japan often enough and usually goes for $100 or so.
In your reality I bet you see ten a day, and you picked one up in the bargain bin for 100 yen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86jH2UQmvKY&t=812s
Quote from: some block off youtubeIn one episode, Dodongo c-walks out of a convenience store with a 40 at 7:40 AM, steals an arcade machine from an auction, haggles in Spanish for a stuffed papa smurf to use as a sex toy, and buys Secret of Mana for a dollar.

PunkCryborg

I installed it on my PC-98 laptop, played for 5 min then realized I could just play it on my PCE and played that instead

esteban

Quote from: SuperDeadite on 07/27/2016, 12:08 PMYeah, it's nothing too special.  100% identical to the PCE game.  Only difference is that it runs in 640x480, so depending on your monitor/tv it might look better then when played on a PCE.  It runs totally fine for me in Win 7 64bit.   You just need to run the installer in compatibility mode and the game will only run in 256 colors.

Price wise, it pops up here in Japan often enough and usually goes for $100 or so.
Serious question: is the emulation really good, then?

Is this the earliest example of PCE emulation on a computer platform?

Do we have examples of other early emulation from the 90's?
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exodus

I didn't even know this existed! that's exciting.

NightWolve

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Quote from: esteban on 07/27/2016, 02:15 PM
Quote from: SuperDeadite on 07/27/2016, 12:08 PMYeah, it's nothing too special.  100% identical to the PCE game.  Only difference is that it runs in 640x480, so depending on your monitor/tv it might look better then when played on a PCE.  It runs totally fine for me in Win 7 64bit.   You just need to run the installer in compatibility mode and the game will only run in 256 colors.

Price wise, it pops up here in Japan often enough and usually goes for $100 or so.
Serious question: is the emulation really good, then?

Is this the earliest example of PCE emulation on a computer platform?

Do we have examples of other early emulation from the 90's?
Sounds like it was coded natively for Windows at 640 x 480. Interesting, didn't know about it either and looks like any owners can take advantage of the big-spending eBay madness surrounding the US TG-16 HuCard.

EDIT: Corrected PCE use to TG-16 for clarity - I used "PCE" in the general sense.

SignOfZeta

What's crazy is that the $100,000 auction isn't so insane because of the PCE version. It's really only this crazy because of the TG-16 version which has so much hyper circling it that the PCE version has gone to the moon as well. If there never was a TG-16 ver the US-only dipshits would never even know their favorite greatest game ever even existed as a PCE title. This is a halo effect amplifying another halo effect.

And yet you can still get an LT for less that MSRP. I don't understand anything.
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Gredler

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 07/27/2016, 09:16 PMWhat's crazy is that the $100,000 auction isn't so insane because of the PCE version. It's really only this crazy because of the TG-16 version which has so much hyper circling it that the PCE version has gone to the moon as well. If there never was a TG-16 ver the US-only dipshits would never even know their favorite greatest game ever even existed as a PCE title. This is a halo effect amplifying another halo effect.

And yet you can still get an LT for less that MSRP. I don't understand anything.
What is the "halo effect" and what is an LT? I don't know these terms.

SignOfZeta

An LT is a handheld PCE that cost an insane $700 or some shit when it came out. Before there was such a thing as a collectable game this thing was, at least with my friends, a holy grail. Worth at least 10 Supergrafxs.

The halo effect usually refers to something like a Corvette being such a kick-ass car that people go out and buy much worse GM vehicles out of...I don't know. Submissive worship? Awareness? Lack of awareness? I don't know. I know exactly why people buy Dodge Vipers. I have no idea at all why they buy Dodge Calibers.

So at any rate, the US MC is so popular that when collectards learn of a JP version they want that instead as a low cost alternative but then the price of that increases too. In this case we are seeing some guy trying to leverage that doubly.

A similar thing is happening to MVS.

The best thing that could have happened to an actual fan of Magical Chase would be if the US version never came out. The JP version would be the same price as Hanataakadaka or similar titles, everyone who knew of it would be able to get a copy.
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SuperDeadite

Quote from: esteban on 07/27/2016, 02:15 PM
Quote from: SuperDeadite on 07/27/2016, 12:08 PMYeah, it's nothing too special.  100% identical to the PCE game.  Only difference is that it runs in 640x480, so depending on your monitor/tv it might look better then when played on a PCE.  It runs totally fine for me in Win 7 64bit.   You just need to run the installer in compatibility mode and the game will only run in 256 colors.

Price wise, it pops up here in Japan often enough and usually goes for $100 or so.
Serious question: is the emulation really good, then?

Is this the earliest example of PCE emulation on a computer platform?

Do we have examples of other early emulation from the 90's?
Doesn't really feel like emulation to me.  The game is basically one big exe file and I'm no hacker, so I couldn't really tell you if it's emulated or not.  But it looks amazingly clean on my FG2421 in full-screen.  Also, while my copy of Magical Chase is in fact pirated, I do own an original Win 95/98 version of Growlanser (same publisher), which being a playstation 1 game, it must have been actually ported to Windows, as I can't really imagine a 133mhz Win 95 machine properly emulating a ps1...
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esteban

Quote from: SuperDeadite on 07/28/2016, 05:53 AM
Quote from: esteban on 07/27/2016, 02:15 PM
Quote from: SuperDeadite on 07/27/2016, 12:08 PMYeah, it's nothing too special.  100% identical to the PCE game.  Only difference is that it runs in 640x480, so depending on your monitor/tv it might look better then when played on a PCE.  It runs totally fine for me in Win 7 64bit.   You just need to run the installer in compatibility mode and the game will only run in 256 colors.

Price wise, it pops up here in Japan often enough and usually goes for $100 or so.
Serious question: is the emulation really good, then?

Is this the earliest example of PCE emulation on a computer platform?

Do we have examples of other early emulation from the 90's?
Doesn't really feel like emulation to me.  The game is basically one big exe file and I'm no hacker, so I couldn't really tell you if it's emulated or not.  But it looks amazingly clean on my FG2421 in full-screen.  Also, while my copy of Magical Chase is in fact pirated, I do own an original Win 95/98 version of Growlanser (same publisher), which being a playstation 1 game, it must have been actually ported to Windows, as I can't really imagine a 133mhz Win 95 machine properly emulating a ps1...
Indeed, there is no way Win 95 133mhz is emulating a PlayStation flawlessly. Bleem! was Win98 and expected beefier hardware specs.

I always thought Magical Chase PC was a port... I am inclined to continue thinking so...since we have no evidence suggesting otherwise.
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xcrement5x

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 07/27/2016, 09:51 PMAn LT is a handheld PCE that cost an insane $700 or some shit when it came out. Before there was such a thing as a collectable game this thing was, at least with my friends, a holy grail. Worth at least 10 Supergrafxs.

The halo effect usually refers to something like a Corvette being such a kick-ass car that people go out and buy much worse GM vehicles out of...I don't know. Submissive worship? Awareness? Lack of awareness? I don't know. I know exactly why people buy Dodge Vipers. I have no idea at all why they buy Dodge Calibers.

So at any rate, the US MC is so popular that when collectards learn of a JP version they want that instead as a low cost alternative but then the price of that increases too. In this case we are seeing some guy trying to leverage that doubly.

A similar thing is happening to MVS.

The best thing that could have happened to an actual fan of Magical Chase would be if the US version never came out. The JP version would be the same price as Hanataakadaka or similar titles, everyone who knew of it would be able to get a copy.
The same thing has happened with Lickle on the Famicom due to the "halo" around Little Samson.  Can't fault people for wanting a legit way to play a decent game.  Now, do the prices justify the fun of the game? That's a whole other story.
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esadajr

Quote from: esteban on 07/27/2016, 02:15 PM
Quote from: SuperDeadite on 07/27/2016, 12:08 PMYeah, it's nothing too special.  100% identical to the PCE game.  Only difference is that it runs in 640x480, so depending on your monitor/tv it might look better then when played on a PCE.  It runs totally fine for me in Win 7 64bit.   You just need to run the installer in compatibility mode and the game will only run in 256 colors.

Price wise, it pops up here in Japan often enough and usually goes for $100 or so.
Serious question: is the emulation really good, then?

Is this the earliest example of PCE emulation on a computer platform?

Do we have examples of other early emulation from the 90's?
I don't think it's an emulated version, as they recorded the music into wav format. And they lazily just recorded the PCE tunes.

I wish they took advantage of the technology at the time and came up with an enhanced soundtrack (like Cotton on the PCE for example) in CDDA (I know wav is the same quality but CDDA has some advantages).

As per early PCE emulators, VPCE comes to mind, proly released around the same time as of this game.
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esadajr

Quote from: SuperDeadite on 07/27/2016, 12:08 PMYeah, it's nothing too special.  100% identical to the PCE game.  Only difference is that it runs in 640x480, so depending on your monitor/tv it might look better then when played on a PCE.  It runs totally fine for me in Win 7 64bit.   You just need to run the installer in compatibility mode and the game will only run in 256 colors...
Should run in 16bit color, at least it did for me on Win95 and XP.
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SignOfZeta

I think Magic Engine was 1997. If someone was only concerned with the performance of one game they could optimize the emulator quite a bit. I have no doubt it could have been done in-period, if just would have been really weird. I'd assume it was a real port.
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SuperDeadite

Quote from: esadajr on 08/05/2016, 05:50 PM
Quote from: SuperDeadite on 07/27/2016, 12:08 PMYeah, it's nothing too special.  100% identical to the PCE game.  Only difference is that it runs in 640x480, so depending on your monitor/tv it might look better then when played on a PCE.  It runs totally fine for me in Win 7 64bit.   You just need to run the installer in compatibility mode and the game will only run in 256 colors...
Should run in 16bit color, at least it did for me on Win95 and XP.
For me if I run it in anything but 256 colors, the game gives me an error message to please use 256 color mode. (On Win 7)
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Tatsujin

I've seen this CIB in the akiba suruga-ya shop for 200  bucks..lol
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