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Title: Kitsunexus
Post by: Joe Redifer on 02/09/2008, 03:29 AM
I know mods don't have the power to ban people and I'm not looking to ban anyone right now, but is there some kind of "infraction" thing we can use?

I'm talking about this:

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=4612.45

Nat said he had to delete an entire thread earlier (I didn't see the offenses).  Nat sugests ignoring.  I suggest infractions.  2 infractions should equal a 1 week ban.  After that if the user should earn another ban, it would be permanent.  Thoughts?
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: nat on 02/09/2008, 03:32 AM
For lack of a better system at this particular moment I suggested ignoring.

Some kind of infraction system would definitely be beneficial here. After I deleted his fairly brutal attack he started trolling and pushing buttons to see if he could get a reaction from the mods. At this point I though it best to ignore him (don't feed his obvious appetite for attention), but an infraction would gladly have been issued if available.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: nat on 02/09/2008, 03:35 AM
I'd also like to add that while Kitsunexus has always been one of the more verbose members here, he seems to have remained more or less in line since he started posting here a year ago.

Again, this is another case of beef started on another forum that has been brought to home soil.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: Joe Redifer on 02/09/2008, 03:40 PM
I'm not sure why Kitsunexus has a beef with the new member, and I haven't seen the new member starting anything.  Kitsunexus has bragged about how he's been banned from dozens upon dozens of forums in the past, maybe this will be just one more to his count.

I have locked this thread (https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=4612.45) and I feel that Kitsune needs a ban.  But the only thing I can do right now is lock the thread.  I can't actually do anything about Kitsunexus.  I know one thing, and that is ignoring this is NOT an option.  If he is trying to get banned, I say we oblige.  Give him a week.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: nat on 02/09/2008, 03:45 PM
At this point I agree.

He has blatantly disregarded warnings from myself and Joe and is continuing attempts at instigating.

Aaron, it'd be nice if us mods had the power to initiate temporary bans for times like these although I understand the reasoning behind wanting to reserve that power.

Either way, here is vote #2 in support of a 1-week warning ban.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: Joe Redifer on 02/09/2008, 04:45 PM
Another good reason to have banning power is if this forum ever gets spammed.  That way we can stop it right away.  Having the ability to view and compare IPs would help as well.  Kitsunexus threatened some sort of 400-member spam flood in the chat room.  I don't take him seriously, but it wouldn't surprise me if he tried to sign up under a new name a few times.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: PCEngineFX on 02/09/2008, 05:07 PM
I will ban Kit for a week to let him cool off.  I will talk more about this later.

EDIT 1: I'm not going to ban him.  I just PM'd him asking him to ignore the other user in this situation.  If he comes back for more, I'll ban him for a week no problem.

I think the rule should be only one warning, then a week ban.  No need to give them two chances before a ban.  Will talk more about this later...
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: PCEngineFX on 02/10/2008, 02:07 AM
Kit got back to me - he's leaving the forum for good.  I'll probably give you guys banning powers.  Again more later.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: Joe Redifer on 02/10/2008, 02:59 AM
Yeah, that's what I meant, an "infraction" before a week ban should be standard.  "Infractions" should expire after a set amount of time.

Anyway I'm sure Kitsunexus will eventually calm down and reappear.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: Keranu on 02/10/2008, 03:15 AM
I believe this is Kitsune's third time attempting to leave. He usually comes back in less than half a day.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: nat on 02/10/2008, 03:22 AM
You guys might be right, but I get the feeling this time it's different. He all but stated to me numerous times that he outright refuses to be civil to this new user (which blows my mind as the new user seems about as docile as they come), and knowing that we aren't going to permit any further attacks I'm skeptical how much more of him we're gonna see around here.

There is obvious serious back history between them that started on another forum somewhere that he refuses to let go of. Until he can find a little maturity in himself to keep those feelings in check, I think it's best that he does stay away.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: Joe Redifer on 02/10/2008, 05:20 AM
According to the new user (Game and Watch Kirby), this is the first forum she's ever signed up on.  I have no clue what could be angering Kitsunexus so much about her.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: Keranu on 02/10/2008, 08:35 PM
They got into a little fight on this PC-FX demo YouTube video just because Kirby didn't think the PC-FX was that good. I can try posting the link if you're interested.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: Joe Redifer on 02/10/2008, 11:01 PM
Yeah, I'm curious.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: PCEngineFX on 02/10/2008, 11:10 PM
Yah I highly doubt Kit will be back.  He sounded really dead serious about the issue.

Keranu, I'd like to see that link as well.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: Keranu on 02/11/2008, 12:04 AM
http://youtu.be/rR2c9_0VLl8
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: nat on 02/11/2008, 01:15 AM
That's absolutely ridiculous. I just read the comments on that link by both Kitsunexus and DreamLifeKirby or whatever her name is and it's perfectly clear Kirby was not trying to insult anyone. I don't even see anything there (by either individual) that is grounds for the type of personal attack that I ended up deleting from the forums here. I should have saved it before deleting it. I think the only other person besides me that saw it was The Old Rover.

In that YouTube thread she simply stated her opinion of the PC-FX (even though it's obvious she's never owned one, but then, neither has Kitsune) which is completely within her rights. She even apologized there in her rebuttal for being slightly abrasive with her original assessment.

Kitsunexus was way, way out of line on this one.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: PCEngineFX on 02/11/2008, 03:10 AM
Well speak of the devil...Kit came back.  He told me in a PM that he won't cause any drama....
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: Keranu on 02/11/2008, 04:00 AM
Quote from: nat on 02/11/2008, 01:15 AMI should have saved it before deleting it. I think the only other person besides me that saw it was The Old Rover.
I saw it too before you deleted. Xiphas actually went in his cache and posted it on my IRC channel as well, so now we have it forever  :mrgreen: .

Quote from: PCenginefxWell speak of the devil...Kit came back.  He told me in a PM that he won't cause any drama....
Told 'ya he would come back soon 8) .
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: Joe Redifer on 02/11/2008, 04:30 AM
I want to see!  I want to see!
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: nat on 02/15/2008, 12:32 AM
In the latest episode in the saga, Kitsunexus has created a parody account of the Kirby user.

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=4655.msg77925
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: Joe Redifer on 02/15/2008, 01:10 AM
I almost find humor in him responding to himself.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: nat on 02/15/2008, 01:14 AM
Yeah it's kind of amusing at this point. I'm just hoping it doesn't get out of hand.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: Joe Redifer on 02/15/2008, 05:26 AM
I closed this thread because I thought it was in very poor taste:

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=4661.0
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: PCEngineFX on 02/15/2008, 12:29 PM
Thanks Joe.  I agree.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: Joe Redifer on 02/19/2008, 12:32 AM
Geez.  It doesn't take too much for Kits to fly off the handle.

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=4684.15
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: nat on 02/19/2008, 12:33 AM
Joe you jerk, I just spent 20 minutes (literally) typing a long reply to SignOfZeta and you go and lock the thread so when I go to hit "Post" I can't post it.  :cry:

EDIT: As far as Kitsunexus goes though, yeah, he's been on reeeeaallly thin ice lately. Maybe he found out the girl he likes hates him or something.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: Joe Redifer on 02/19/2008, 01:32 AM
Wha?  You should still be able to post in locked threads without any problem.  If it was because it was locked as you were typing, try copying all of your text, exiting the thread, entering and replying again with the pasted text.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: nat on 02/19/2008, 10:55 AM
Oh, I probably could've (at the very least, unlocked it, posted, re-locked it) but you pretty much buried the topic with your last post. I decided to run with that.  :|
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: Joe Redifer on 02/28/2008, 01:10 AM
Man this guy likes to abuse other members a bit too much and for nearly no reason, in my opinion.

Quote from: Kitsunexus on 02/27/2008, 11:35 PMYOU FUCKING IDIOTS! CAN YOU NOT READ! I WAS AGREEING WITH YOU! ALL THOSE GAMES ARE CLASSICS! THEY ARE GOOD! WTF IS WRONG WITH THE BOTH OF YOU?
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: nat on 02/28/2008, 01:12 AM
Yeah it's becoming a recurring theme. He's perfectly fine 98% of the time but then he goes and has these random explosions of anger.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: Joe Redifer on 02/28/2008, 01:17 AM
I would not have paid his post any kind of special attention had he just left off the first sentence.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: Keranu on 02/28/2008, 01:45 AM
This is what makes Kitsune such a fun member to have though :) . It's just his shtick.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: PCEngineFX on 02/28/2008, 02:05 AM
I've gave him a warning.  I don't care if it his thing, I won't allow people to be going off like that.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: Joe Redifer on 03/11/2008, 04:12 AM
Well Kitsunexus decided to post a whole bunch of pictures of rotting corpses and dismembered body parts (all real) in the "Post Something Lovely" thread.  All mods/admins should have gotten the e-mail alert from Guyjin.  I edited his post and removed all the pictures.  Seriously, this guy needs a banning.  We are WAY to easy on this prick.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: Keranu on 03/11/2008, 05:45 AM
Yeah I really didn't think that was called for either, especially since the lets "Lets post something awful" joke was already used multiple times - one horrorfying joke pic is enough. Not to mention that Kitsune's pics were really, really horrible.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: nat on 03/11/2008, 10:47 AM
Thank god I missed that.

I agree-- we seem to continue to let Kitsune off the hook more often than we should. At the very least, I opt for a general "warning ban." Otherwise I feel he'll keep pushing the envelope whenever it suits him because, hey, he always got away with it in the past.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: nat on 03/12/2008, 01:09 AM
I'm really not trying to beat the ol' dead horse here, but even beyond what's already been stated, I'm now starting to get guff from other members when I ask them to pipe down.

I stepped in with a friendly "let's be civil" reminder here:

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=4855.msg82604#msg82604

and almost immediately got PMs from both members involved that basically said "Well Kitsunexus is allowed to do it every day and nothing happens to him!"
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: Keranu on 03/12/2008, 01:55 AM
Quote from: nat on 03/12/2008, 01:09 AMand almost immediately got PMs from both members involved that basically said "Well Kitsunexus is allowed to do it every day and nothing happens to him!"
Hahahaha!  :mrgreen: Kitsune is getting hit from all sides now.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: PCEngineFX on 03/14/2008, 04:13 PM
You guys can ban members now right?  Then someone please take care of this...he has had enough warnings.  Give him a week off.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: nat on 03/14/2008, 04:26 PM
You never turned that on for us. If you did, I have no idea how to do it. You said you were going to, then I think you forgot about it (as did I).

That said, it'd be a big help to everyone if you did so.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: PCEngineFX on 03/14/2008, 04:41 PM
Sorry, thought you guys had ban privilages.  I've turned it on for all mods.  Should be pretty easy to ban anyone now....
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: nat on 03/14/2008, 08:50 PM
Thanks, I figured it out.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: nat on 03/15/2008, 05:18 PM
I noticed someone already added the Kitsunexus ban.

Did that person send an e-mail his way letting him know why or does the system do that automatically in the case of temporary bans?
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: Joe Redifer on 03/15/2008, 07:31 PM
It likely does it when that person tries to log in and presents them with the reason provided in the "Reason to show user" dialog box.

I only prevented him from posting for 6 days, I didn't prevent him from logging on.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: nat on 03/18/2008, 02:00 PM
How the hell is Kitsunexus posting? According to the Ban page, the ban is still in affect for three more days.

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=4902.msg83527#msg83527
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: PCEngineFX on 03/18/2008, 02:23 PM
The "Ban Name' is not where you put the username.  You must add a "Ban trigger" and then add the username you want to ban in there.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: nat on 03/18/2008, 02:30 PM
Ah, OK. Joe set the ban up this time, but that's good information to know for the future.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: nat on 03/18/2008, 02:34 PM
I've modified and corrected the ban based on the fact that Kitsunexus didn't even know he was banned and therefor didn't experience any "punishment" for his actions. I extended the ban period 5 more days.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: Joe Redifer on 03/18/2008, 08:08 PM
That is very, very weird.  Banning is more complicated than registering.  On vBulletin you just choose "Ban user" and select the duration and reason, and that's it.  SMF wanted to make it much more laborious, I guess. 

I'm writing my congressman about this!
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: Keranu on 03/18/2008, 11:48 PM
Can mods ban other mods  :-k ? Someone answer me before I try doing it to see for myself!
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: Joe Redifer on 03/19/2008, 12:23 AM
Hmmm... it seems we can!  I just banned Keranu.







Alright, alright... I'll go unban him now.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: Keranu on 03/19/2008, 04:35 AM
Now the real question is if mods can ban admins!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: nat on 03/19/2008, 05:21 PM
Kitsunexus sent me a really nasty e-mail now that he's finally realized he is banned, albeit temporarily.

I really like how he picked me as the "one to blame" for his predicament (I assume he didn't copy you guys, there was no CC on the e-mail).

I'd almost say after what he said in that e-mail that he won't be back, but given his track record to date, I find that hard to believe.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: Joe Redifer on 03/19/2008, 08:20 PM
Oh, he'll be back.

I'm surprised he didn't pick me to send that e-mail to (or at least CC), being that I was questioning his behavior and all.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: nat on 03/27/2008, 01:37 PM
He came back, and almost immediately started fighting, instigating and insulting other members once again. I had to delete a whole thread in Chit-Chat that escalated to a 3-page flamewar between him and just about everyone else in a few mere hours I was offline.

I gave him a 90 day FULL ban this time around. I think everyone can agree this is the last temporary ban we need to grant him before giving him the boot for good. Truth be told, we probably should've given him the boot already.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: PCEngineFX on 03/27/2008, 03:34 PM
Thanks for handling that Nat.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: Joe Redifer on 03/27/2008, 05:59 PM
We should keep watch on IP addresses.  What was the name of the account he created to make fun of the Kirby member?  I'll eventually remember what is was and ban it permanently.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: nat on 06/22/2008, 04:24 PM
I was checking how many days Kitsunexus had left on his ban (it was down to the final week, I'm sure) and noticed that he requested Aaron delete his account. I thought that was strange considering he's been trying to log in nearly every day since he went on ban. Did he say what changed his mind?
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: PCEngineFX on 06/24/2008, 01:45 PM
This was his email to me...sounded sincere enough:

umm, hey, you know, I've been thinking, when 90 days are up, I don't really intend to come back. Can you please just delete my account? I promise I won't create another one. Or failing that, could you permaban it? I just really REALLY don't want to go back to PCEFX. Thanks for being understanding about the whole situation. ^_^
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: PCEngineFX on 08/19/2008, 10:48 PM
So Kitsunexus is emailing me again asking to return to the forums.  I'm not going to let him as he "promised" that he will never return so I'm holding him to that.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: nat on 08/19/2008, 11:09 PM
Ha, interesting. I don't blame you.
Title: Re: Kitsunexus
Post by: Joe Redifer on 08/20/2008, 02:53 AM
I am so incredibly not surprised that he did that..