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[Buy/Sell/Trade / Re: FS/FO: Prices lowered! PC Engine CDROM2 Boxed Complete, PCE and Turbo games]

I'd like that Ys III CD if you still have it. Sent PM with my location.

Sorry for the delay. Been out of town for a week and a half. PM sent.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Your favourite games no one talks about.]

Mystic Formula is under-appreciated I guess. One of the few 2 player games of it's kind on the console. Plus the music is sweet, especially the first stage.

[General Gaming / Re: Ys VIII Lacrimosa of Dana PS4 & Vita]

I'm almost done with Ys VIII and must say that I enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I would. I've finished every game in the Ys series other than V and it's definitely one of the best in my opinion. I've already gotten the normal ending and now I'm tying up loose ends and finishing the optional stuff for the best ending. The combat is a lot of fun and there is so much to do. I'm somewhere around 55 hours which is far and away the longest Ys game. I'm playing the PS4 version and I highly recommend it to any Ys fan or action rpg fan.

[Off-Topic / Re: What are YOU watching on YouTube.com?]

FOTNS game for PS4 is coming to the U.S 

Looks pretty damn cool. Seems closer to the PS1 HnK game by Banpresto than Ken's Rage, which I think is a good thing. Just wish HnK 2 would get more love.

[Buy/Sell/Trade / Re: FS/FO: Prices lowered! PC Engine CDROM2 Boxed Complete, PCE and Turbo games]

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[Buy/Sell/Trade / Re: FS/FO - Wide assortment - Famicom, Genesis, MD, PS1, Virtual Boy, SMS, and more]

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[Buy/Sell/Trade / Re: FS/FO: Prices lowered! PC Engine CDROM2 Boxed Complete, PCE and Turbo games]

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[Off-Topic / Re: What are you currently listening to?]

Another 80's gem that doesn't last on YouTube for long, can't find the music video anymore.

Love Boys of Summer. Takes me back to the 1985-1990 living in Daytona Beach, FL. Best time of my life living down there. Just turned 40 and damn it sucks getting older.

[Buy/Sell/Trade / Re: FS/FO - Wide assortment - Famicom, Genesis, MD, PS1, Virtual Boy, SMS, and more]

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[Buy/Sell/Trade / FS/FO - Prices Lowered! - Famicom, Genesis, MD, PS1, Virtual Boy, SMS, and more]

Ok guys, clearing it all out. Time to move on. I've added the rest of my NES, SNES, Super Famicom, etc stuff to the list. Take a look and see if you're interested in anything. If you see something, just PM me. Prices do not include shipping because of how much pricing varies. Please excuse upside down and sideways pictures. NA host refuses to upload them the correct way. Thanks for looking!



Nintendo NES - Boxed, complete unless noted
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Super Mario Bros.                            ---    SOLD
Super Mario Bros. 2                        ---    $30  - RESEAL
Kung Fu                                          ---    SOLD
Hogan's Alley                                  ---    $20  - very good condition
Platoon                                            ---  SOLD
Kings of the Beach                          ---  $12  - superb condition
Rad Racer                                        ---  $10 - no 3d glasses
Punch-Out!! f. Mr. Dream                  ---  $20 - no manual
Top Gun                                          ---  $8
Top Gun - Second Mission                ---  SOLD
Jack Nicklaus Golf                            ---    SOLD
Goonies II                                      ---    $22
Castlevania                                      ---  SOLD
Rocket Ranger                                  ---  SOLD
Track and Field II                              ---  SOLD
Bill Elliot NASCAR                            ---    SOLD
Faxandu                                          ---  $20
Metal Gear                                        ---  $40 - very good condition
Street Fighter 2010                          ---    $20 - no manual
Adventures in the Magical Kingdom    ---  $20
LJN NFL Football                                ---  $15  - *NEW, SEALED*
Operation Wolf                                  ---  SOLD
Ikari Warriors                                    ---  SOLD
Robocop                                          ---    $10  - small tear in bottom
Wrestlemania                                    ---    SOLD
Flying Dragon                                    ---    $12  - no manual


Super Famicom Boxed, complete unless noted
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Super Famicom Console - Boxed, complete          ---  $85 - great condition, still gray, no yellowing - manual is a bit dirty but pages crisp
Chrono Trigger                                                  --- $12
Final Fantasy IV                                                --- $12
Final Fantasy V                                                --- $12
Final Fantasy VI                                              --- $12
Final Fantasy USA - Mystic Quest                      --- $12
F-Zero                                                            --- $8 - very rough box
Hokuto No Ken 6 - Fist of the North Star 6        --- $10
Super Mario World                                          --- $10 - custom case, no manual


Super Nintendo Boxed and complete unless noted
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Magical Quest starring Micky Mouse                ---  $15 - very rough box and manual
Street Fighter 2 Turbo                                    ---  $10 - no cardboard sleeve inside box


Sega Genesis Boxed and complete unless noted
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Super Thunder Blade                  ---  $8  - no manual
Strider                              ---  $18
Samurai Shodown                      ---  $10 
Forgotten Worlds                    ---  $30
Raiden Trad                          ---  $30  - no manual
Last Battle                          ---  $8
Joe Montana Football                ---  $5
Pat Riley Basketball                ---  $5
Quackshot                            ---  SOLD
Spiderman                            ---  $10
Taz Mania                            ---  $10
Virtua Racing                        ---  $15
Atomic Robo Kid                      ---  $15  - no manual
Galaxy Force II                      ---  $10
Bimini Run                          ---  $10  - no manual
Super Monaco GP                      ---  $5
Sonic 2                              ---  $5


Sega Mega Drive
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Ys III                              ---  $40
Kujakuo 2 (Mystic Defender)        ---  $10  - no manual


Sega Saturn USA
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Street Fighter Alpaha              ---  $15




Sega Saturn Japan
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Galaxy Force II                    ---  $25
Gale Racer                        ---  $15 
Lunar Silver Star Story Complete  ---  $10
Virtua Fighter Remix              ---  $6
Thunderstorm FX/Road Blaster      ---  $25
World Series Baseball II          ---  $4
Great Eleven 97                    ---  $4


Sega Mega CD
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Final Fight CD                    ---  $25
Heavenly Symphony                  ---  $7
3X3 Eyes                          ---  $8
Nobunaga                          ---  $5
Mansion of Hidden Souls            ---  $5
Sega Classics Arcade Pack          ---  $10


Sega CD
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Snatcher - REPRO                  ---  SOLD
Stellar Fire                      ---  $5




Sega Dreamcast
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Sonic Adventure                    ---  $10


Sega Master System
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Pro Wrestling                      ---  $6
Shinobi        - rough condition  ---  $8 - no manual
Double Dragon  - rough condition  ---  $8 - no manual
Blade Eagle 3D                    ---  $10
Reggie Jackson Baseball            ---  $10
Zaxxon 3D x 2                      ---  $10
Great Football                    ---  $6
Captain Silver                    ---  $15 - no manual
Great Basketball                  ---  $6
Afterburner                        ---  $9 - no manual
Great Baseball                    ---  $6
Thunder Blade                      ---  $10
Alien Syndrome                    ---  $10 - no manual
Altered Beast                      ---  $10 - no manual


Nintendo NES
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Power Pad  (box has stains)              --- $15


Nintendo Famicom
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Metal Gear - (No Konami Card)            --- $50
Dragon Quest                            --- $20
Ys                                      --- $10
Ys II                                    --- $10

Nintendo Gameboy
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Xevious - sealed                        --- $8
NFL Footbal - no inner cardboard        SOLD


Nintendo Gameboy SP
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Nintendo Gameboy SP Console Box w/ inserts  --- $15

Nintendo Virtual Boy
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Galactic Pinball                        --- $20


Nintendo DS Japan
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Shonen Jump Ultimate Stars            --- $5

Sony Playstation Japan
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Biohazard 2                                    ---  $10
Metal Gear Solid  w/Suikoden demo disc        ---  $10
Speed King                                    ---  $10  - By Konami, references to Snatcher
Tekken                                        ---  $5


Sony Playstation US
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Need For Speed III                            ---  $5
Final Fantasy Anthology                        ---  $12
Final Fantasy Origins                          ---  $12
Final Fantasy Chronicles                      ---  $12
R4 Ridge Racer 4                              ---  $10
Chrono Cross                                  ---  $8
Ridge Racer                                    ---  $5
Metal Gear Solid VR Missions                  ---  $8
Burning Road Demo Disc                        ---  $3
Resident Evil Directors Cut w/ RE2 Demo Disc - loose    --- $6
Lunar Silver Star Story Complete              ---  SOLD

PC games
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Who's Fat Lou? - sealed                            ---  $5
King's Quest VI                                      ---  $10
Star Wars Rebel Assault                            ---  $10
The Dark Eye - sealed                              ---  $10
AD&D Pool of Radiance - APPLE version      ---  $10
7th Guest                                                ---  $7
Starflight                                                ---  $15


Japanese PC games
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Ys VI - Ark of Napishtim                          ---  $30
Ys II Eternal                                          ---  $30
Ys II Eternal -Korean Version - Sealed      ---  $20
Ys Origin - sealed                                    ---  $30
Ys Oath in Felghana - sealed                  ---  $30
Ys I&II Chronicles - sealed                    ---  $30




MSX 2
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Ys I                                          ---  SOLD
Ys II                                          ---  SOLD
Ys III                                        ---  SOLD
Dragon Slayer                                  ---  SOLD



PC Engine Games and Accessories
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PC Engine CDROM2 unit with Super System Card 3.0        --- $200 - Serviced professionally, new gear installed
Valis III      --- $17
Ys I&II        --- SOLD
Ys III          --- $10  - one copy left
Ys IV          --- SOLD
Davis Cup Tennis (New, Crack In Case)  --- $7
Power Drift    --- $25
Prince of Persia --- $15
Snatcher      --- SOLD
Super System Card 3.0  --- SOLD


Turbografx 16 games
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Victory Run  ---- $10  (Case has sticker and shows wear)
Power Golf    ---- SOLD
TV Sports Football      $7 (Missing HuCard slip cover)
World Class Baseball  $6 (Wavy manual pages)

[Buy/Sell/Trade / Re: FS/FO: PC Engine CDROM2 Boxed Complete w/Super System Card 3.0, PCE and Turbo]

Sorry about the delay. Was waiting for payment from someone else on Ys games.

[Off-Topic / Re: The Anime Thread: Finding Good Anime]

Fist of the North Star

Speaking of FOTNS it has just been released again on BR looking to buying this release.That will round it out since i all ready have the tv series on BR.
http://www.amazon.com/Fist-North-Star-Movie-Blu-ray/dp/B07CDCF335/

Cool, I didn't know it was coming out on BR. Definitely have to pick it up. Looks like there aren't many extras on it, though the original Japanese ending is on there. I had wanted to get the FOTNS tv series on BR but I had read that the picture quality wasn't any better than the DVD release. What did you think of the BR picture quality?

[Off-Topic / Re: The Anime Thread: Finding Good Anime]

I probably would have gotten the Robot Carnival BR if they hadn't decided to crop the thing to wide screen.  I know they say it was "always meant to be" wide but I've been watching it for decades in with the variable ratios, usually 4:3 so it would probably drive me nuts to watch it cropped.

Interesting. Over the years I've watched Robot Carnival many times, especially Deprive and Presence, my two favorite segments, and I did not even notice the BR release was cropped. I did enjoy the interview about Streamline Pictures a lot. Say what you will about Carl Macek, what he did to introduce anime to America was considerable. To this day most of my favorite anime was released by Streamline, including Robot Carnival, Fist of the North Star, Golgo 13, Akira, and Vampire Hunter D. I still have a few nagging questions about Presence that I guess will never be answered, like why is the protagonist's wife's face obscured, why does he stare at the dumpster full of robot parts, and a few others. Does he use parts from the robot dumpster to finish the "Uemetsu's Fantasy Girl"?

[Off-Topic / Re: The Anime Thread: Finding Good Anime]

Anyone else get the Robot Carnival Blu-Ray that came out not that long ago? I must say it's one of the best BR anime releases I've ever seen due to the all the extra content. They really went all out. Wish they did that with more old school anime releases. Picked up Vampire Hunter D and Golgo 13 The Professional on BR hoping for more extras but was let down a bit. Also, anyone here a fan of Yu Yu Hakusho? Just picked up the full series on DVD and getting ready to jump into it for the first time. Heard some good things about it so I decided to give it a try.

[Buy/Sell/Trade / FS/FO: Prices lowered! PC Engine CDROM2 Boxed Complete, PCE and Turbo games]

Hey guys, looking to sell my boxed PC Engine CDROM2 unit and what games I have left for it, along with a few Turbo games. The CDROM unit was serviced by Keith Courage last year and has the new gear installed. Works great. Overall the unit is in superb condition with all the manuals, OEM AC adapter, System Card 2.1, baggies, etc. I'm including the Super System Card 3.0 with the unit. Box is very nice other than a slight bend in the top on one side as seen in the picture. Games are listed below with details. If interested, send me a PM. Make an offer. Prices do not include shipping due to how much shipping costs vary due to distance, weight, etc. Thanks for looking!

PC Engine CDROM2 unit with Super System Card 3.0        --- SOLD

PC Engine Games and Accessories
-----------------------------------------

Valis III      --- $15
Ys I&II        --- SOLD
Ys III          --- SOLD
Ys IV          --- SOLD
Davis Cup Tennis (New, Crack In Case)  --- $7
Power Drift    --- $30
Prince of Persia --- $15
Snatcher      --- SOLD
Super System Card 3.0  --- SOLD


Turbografx 16 games
---------------------------------

Victory Run  ---- $10  (Case has sticker and shows wear)
Power Golf    ---- SOLD
TV Sports Football      $7 (Missing HuCard slip cover)
World Class Baseball  $6 (Wavy manual pages)

[Off-Topic / Re: Donald Trump Thread aka End of Days]

That's a pipe dream that won't amount to much.  Taxes are nothing compared to labor costs.

We'll see.

If you'd bother to look at a normalized chart of the DOW since its lowest point in 2009 up to present, you'd see that it's nicely improved under Trump but hardly skyrocketed.  The DOW gains aren't all Obama but neither are they all Trump; if it were another year of Obama's average, it'd be somewhere around 23000.

Bullshit. The Dow is up nearly 7,000 points since Trump won the election. It jumped 1,500 between the election and the inauguration and will probably cross 25,000 tomorrow. Keep in mind that when Obama took office it was pretty already at the bottom with nowhere to go but up. An injection of a trillion dollars, started by G.W. Bush, is what got the market climbing again. Poo poo it all you want but it's no coincidence that the markets have skyrocketed the way they have since Nov. 9th.

If you weren't such a crybaby bitch, you'd have followed the link and found that they DO talk about Obama's golf too.  We all know that Obama (and Bush, Clinton, etc.) golfed and spent lots of money on personal travel, but the fact is that Trump is doing both at a faster clip than any previous president.  It's not hypocrisy to mock the dotard after he bitched REPEATEDLY about Obama's golfing and vacationing and promising that he would do neither.

I did follow the link, dipshit. Couldn't help but notice how they got busted with their bullshit numbers on how much Trump was costing taxpayers and had to admit to it. However, as I mentioned before Trump, unlike Obama, Bush, Clinton, etc. actually owns multiple vacation homes with golf courses. He did say he wouldn't play golf or vacation like Obama, which he has done. No denying that bit of hypocrisy. At least he wasn't golfing 15 minutes after announcing to America that one of our people had been beheaded.

[Off-Topic / Re: Donald Trump Thread aka End of Days]

If you weren't such a crybaby bitch, you'd have followed the link and found that they DO talk about Obama's golf too.  We all know that Obama (and Bush, Clinton, etc.) golfed and spent lots of money on personal travel, but the fact is that Trump is doing both at a faster clip than any previous president.  It's not hypocrisy to mock the dotard after he bitched REPEATEDLY about Obama's golfing and vacationing and promising that he would do neither.

Given the utter nonsense he's been posting I doubt very highly he more than skims anything that he's actively arguing against.  I'd wager the odds of him actually reading an outside source is slim to nil.  Why would RyuHayabusa bother actively engaging when he can just cry victim while making personal character attacks?

Well that didn't last long. Utter nonsense? I have yet to see you refute anything I've said. You've yet to actually engage what I've said and instead you just whine like a liberal bitch. You and your liberal fuck buddies just keep attacking the strawman image of Trump that the media has created to incite hysteria about him being the a white supremacist, hating the poor, etc etc etc. And for the record I used to be a centrist. I hated George W. Bush because of the war in Iraq and how much religion was being tied to politics since I'm an atheist. However, the left has gone absolutely insane. The entire goal of liberalism today is to tear down every aspect of Western Civilization in the name of diversity and guilt and rebuild it into some communist hellhole.

[Off-Topic / Re: Donald Trump Thread aka End of Days]

I told you, man, I stopped participating because it was pointless. And yeah, I was guilty of antagonizing behavior, too. The difference here is that I realized it and stopped. I’m not interested  in lobbing shit at people online, nor am I interested in lumping people into libtard/conservatard boxes, or whatever. That sort of childish bullshit is what got us into our current situation with the Twitter Troll in Chief.

So no, I’m not hiding. I’m always happy to have a conversation. You have made a couple valid points, despite them being couched in 4chan-level bullshit. And sure, Nulltard insulted you first. Maybe rise above it. I know Trump likes to “hit em back 10 times harder”, but it’d be nice if people remembered what dignity was, instead of grade school mentality. Maybe we’d get somewhere.

You talk about 4chan-level bullshit right after calling the president the Twitter Troll in Chief. See, that's what it all boils down to is hypocrisy. You hear all this talk about civility, dignity, and maturity from people who flagrantly insult anyone who disagrees with them by labeling them as racists, sexists, bigots, homophobes, xenophobes, Nazis, white supremacists, etc. I initially didn't want to get in an argument here but sometimes when you see something that's flat out bullshit you can't help but say something. Dude posts some bullshit link talking about how much golf Trump plays all the while ignoring how much golf Obama played or the fact over $100 million was spent on Obama's vacations and travels. I guess he probably didn't even know that but then again how would he since 95% of the media is pro-Obama and anti-Trump.

I'll agree with you, I wish things were more civilized at times but we're a nation now divided more than at any other time probably since the Civil War.

Proposal: what video game should you and I play next? It’s not a competition, I just want to talk to you about something else.

I have a lot of games, but not everything, so pick a genre or game you were interested in.

I am not a big fan of RPGs, though...

I'm getting ready to play Lunar on the PSP. Just finished playing through Castlevania Symphony of the Night on the Saturn. Not the best port due to longer load times, no transparencies, and having to go through the menu to access the map but it's got a few interesting extras not in the PS1 version.

[Off-Topic / Re: Net Neutrality]

A brief history on ISPs douchery:
https://www.freepress.net/blog/2017/04/25/net-neutrality-violations-brief-history
Makes you wonder if people will have to pay a fee to run their crypto coin miners...

That's a small list. Two of them aren't even from the US. One of them was done to stop illegal file sharing through P2P programs. As for the others, yes, some companies do questionable things but that didn't stop after 2015 either. Companies are always doing things to give themselves advantages and that's why they're taken to court. Like I said before, it's not as though all regulation of the internet is suddenly gone.

[Off-Topic / Re: Donald Trump Thread aka End of Days]

I told you, man, I stopped participating because it was pointless. And yeah, I was guilty of antagonizing behavior, too. The difference here is that I realized it and stopped. I’m not interested  in lobbing shit at people online, nor am I interested in lumping people into libtard/conservatard boxes, or whatever. That sort of childish bullshit is what got us into our current situation with the Twitter Troll in Chief.

So no, I’m not hiding. I’m always happy to have a conversation. You have made a couple valid points, despite them being couched in 4chan-level bullshit. And sure, Nulltard insulted you first. Maybe rise above it. I know Trump likes to “hit em back 10 times harder”, but it’d be nice if people remembered what dignity was, instead of grade school mentality. Maybe we’d get somewhere.

You talk about 4chan-level bullshit right after calling the president the Twitter Troll in Chief. See, that's what it all boils down to is hypocrisy. You hear all this talk about civility, dignity, and maturity from people who flagrantly insult anyone who disagrees with them by labeling them as racists, sexists, bigots, homophobes, xenophobes, Nazis, white supremacists, etc. I initially didn't want to get in an argument here but sometimes when you see something that's flat out bullshit you can't help but say something. Dude posts some bullshit link talking about how much golf Trump plays all the while ignoring how much golf Obama played or the fact over $100 million was spent on Obama's vacations and travels. I guess he probably didn't even know that but then again how would he since 95% of the media is pro-Obama and anti-Trump.

I'll agree with you, I wish things were more civilized at times but we're a nation now divided more than at any other time probably since the Civil War.

[Off-Topic / Re: Donald Trump Thread aka End of Days]

It’s why I stopped participating in this thread; it’s pointless. Internet troll antics won’t convince anyone of anything, except that you’re an asshole. Unless that’s your intent. If so, congrats. Very effective.

Yeah, I’m doing the same thing. I’m bowing out.

Haha. So there's like 90 pages worth of you guys calling Trump supporters morons, losers, Nazis, and I'm the fucking bad guy? Give me a break. And last I checked Nulltard insulted me first. But go ahead, run away. Hide under the bed or that evil ol' Trump is going to get you.

[Off-Topic / Re: Net Neutrality]

What is it with these ignorant troll cunts?  If you have anything even slightly negative to say about Trump or any of his actions, you're automatically labeled a far left wing antifa socialist nutter.  There's no middle ground! 

Seriously? Yeah, I'm the bad guy. The amount of anti-Trump rhetoric on this forum is considerable and in case you haven't noticed, dissenting voices are not very welcome.

Here's a couple facts for Mr. Anti-regulation:

Not against all regulation, just over-regulation.

1.  Utilities (water/power/gas/sewer/etc.) in the US are heavily regulated and often publicly owned, and they're generally cheaper and more reliable than what's found in other western countries.
2.  Internet service, which net neutrality aimed to treat and regulate like a utility, is far slower and more expensive than what the rest of the world has (through regulation and/or government ownership more often than not).

America is a much larger country than all those western European and east Asian countries and much less densely populated. City and local governments have too many laws dictating how ISPs upgrade equipment and to top it off is the insane cost to upgrade everything across the US. Even Google with it's tremendous wealth has been extremely slow in rolling out Google Fiber. It costs millions to upgrade each node of the thousands of nodes across the country. That's why the bigger cities are upgraded first since it affects the most people and then later upgrades move to smaller cities. With small countries like the UK it's much easier because there's less to upgrade and less cost. Yes, more competition would help but as stated before it's expensive and local/city governments have laws that stifle competition.

[Off-Topic / Re: Donald Trump Thread aka End of Days]

[Off-Topic / Re: Donald Trump Thread aka End of Days]

I have done research. I don’t take this shit lightly. I do not watch MSNBC, or hardly any TV for that matter, especially broadcast news. I don’t read huff post or vox (whatever the fuck that is). I like to keep tabs on US politics from international sources mostly.

What, you sit around watching Al Jazeera and BBC all day? No wonder you're so misinformed.

He (and when I say he, I am including his administration) have begun to DECIMATE rights for the LGBT community.

Really? Like what? He said he doesn't mind if some weirdo tranny in a dress uses the women's room at Trump Tower. What else do you want?

He has pushed for a near theocracy.

Bullshit. I'm an atheist so I know this isn't even close to being true. What, because he's saying Merry Christmas? As a conservative atheist I unfortunately have to deal with the bad reputation atheists have because of all the whacko leftists who want to tear down crosses that have been around for a hundred years because they're "offended".

He has sold out what protected areas we have left so they can be developed. He is embracing fossil fuels while the rest of the world is moving on to renewables.

He's helping make America energy independent and the world leader in energy production. Face it, there are ZERO renewable sources of energy that plentiful enough or efficient enough to get off of fossil fuels. You know it. I know it. Until something new comes along that isn't going to change.

His tax plan has a slight silver lining. Maybe his cut on corporate tax will get some industries to move back to the US.

That's the plan, along with expansion of those already here. It's about jobs and keeping American wealth here.

As for him taking credit for a lot of the prosperity in the US this past year...sure, right. The DOW was on the way up when Obama was still in office and Trump was daydreaming about ramming his daughter. Jobs were slowly making a comeback.

So it's just a coincidence that the Dow has risen nearly 7,000 points since Trump was elected? It just suddenly skyrocketed for no reason. Oh, it was Obama. That's right. An anemic GDP around 1.8% all of a sudden jumps to 3.3%. Coincidence? Or another delayed Obama after effect? Unemployment rate? Yeah, that was already low though it's gotten a bit lower since Trump. However, keep in mind that it's not the real number anyway, as Trump often said on the campaign trail but doesn't mention now.

Not only is he poor at what he does, he surrounds himself by backwards thinking, ignorant people in his administration.

Statistics, massive business successes, and the fact he won the presidency against all odds say he's not poor at what he does. As for the rest, what you call backwards thinking and ignorance I'd call common sense. Not everyone thinks simply putting lipstick on a dude in a dress makes him a woman. Not everyone thinks people who come here illegally should be showered in free government benefits and be let out of prison to roam free after repeatedly committing felonies. Not everyone thinks taxes should be raised on workers to fund free healthcare, education, housing, etc for the entire nation. Not everyone thinks like you do.

At least W had a decent administration, albeit morally bankrupt, they at least understood diplomacy and how to keep the country running decently.

Seriously? I hated W's eight years. Good guy but woefully ill equipped for the job. Better than Gore though. As for diplomacy, kissing ass and giving away the nation's wealth didn't help anything. Iraq was a mistake. NK kept working on nukes. Terrorism spread around the world. Not a great track record and things didn't get better under Obama. Funny how libs hated W until Trump came around.

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Perhaps I could write this in a way that someone from the moral write could relate:  For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required

Given? Spoken like a true liberal. Not every rich person was born with money. Not everyone had their wealth given to them. Most wealthy people worked hard for their money, took chances, failed a few times along the way, etc. Yeah, Trump was born into money and then he built it up exponentially but this whole deep seated anti-wealth idea on the left is ridiculous, especially considering most of the leaders of the left are filthy rich themselves.

Politicians, like Trump, have their stupidly expensive elections paid for by oligarchs like the Koch brothers.  The Koch brothers spent $889 million on the 2016 election.  Why?  Because it makes them money in the long run.  If they wouldn't make billions from funding elections then they wouldn't pay for it.  I dislike how the mega rich will waste vast sums of money on campaign ads, fake news stories on social media, and overall nothing of worth to save themselves money.

Yes, elections are far too expensive and there is too much money buying influence within politics. Keep in mind that Trump pretty much funded his entire primary run for the Republican nomination with $50 million of his own money and a few million in small donations, and overall spent millions more of his own money against Hillary. Also, he ended spending much less than Hillary, somewhere around $1.4 billion vs $900 million. One does have to wonder why Hillary, awash in CGI money, didn't any of her own money.

Why yes, they Do often pay more money to the US coffers than I do but I honestly don't care.  They have more money; vastly more money.  If I can pay my taxes then they can pay their capital gains taxes (which are at a lower rate than what I pay) and not decide "It's unfair to me because I'm rich so I should buy some politicians to make things better."

Often pay more? Get real. You already know they pay more taxes to the US coffers than you do. Quite whining.

Immense waste like spending $150k on golf carts at Trump's hotel?  Money from taxpayers like me that eventually goes back into Trump's pockets?  Yeah, I'd much rather that money went to retired elderly or was spent on medicine and vaccines for poor children.  A definition of government waste is essentially every stupid thing Trump does to help himself jerk off to how great of a human being he is.

Funny, Democrats didn't care about how much how much money it cost to fly Obama around for 8 years. Now, you do know it cost $105,662,975 for Obama's vacations and travels over his 8 years, right? ONE HUNDERED AND FIVE MILLION DOLLARS. Democrats are so funny. You guys add $10 trillion to the debt then all of a sudden you become deficit hawks when Trump takes office. Give me a break.

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Net Neutrality was an ideal to where all data is treated equally.  Repealing it allows data to not be treated equally.  Thus, if there's a rival to your business model you can crush them by merely not allowing them to have data and therefore kill them; you no longer need to have competition.

The FTC has control over anti-trust issues and apparently NN didn't stop Verizon from doing what you say it's supposed to have stopped. I could be wrong, and if in 5 years I turn out to be then I'll admit it but I can't see ISPs charging more to access this site or that site or having to have multiple services to access all sites. Push back from consumers plus competition would likely stop that from happening.

Don't get me wrong, the dems don't stand for much of anything at the moment.  With that said, as a general rule for the past 30 years or so they've tried to get more for the lower class and not, what, I don't even understand what you're getting at here.  Take from the poorest and throw it away?

Not true. They've merely used poor people to stay in power all the while running pretty much anything they touch into the ground. Chicago, Baltimore, St. Louis, etc etc etc. Even California, what was the 8th largest economy in the world, is billions of dollars in debt despite it's high taxation because of all their socialist programs. The Dems just use racism, sexism, xenophobia, etc as rallying cries for votes while the spend their states into oblivion.

My point about Nulltard's meme is that what is says is actually what the Democrats do, making people equally poor through high taxation and redistribution of wealth through government programs.

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A quick google search points to over half the money going to the super rich.  I'd much rather the government keep my tax refund if that means that the rich guys paid taxes.

Um, so you do know that the "rich guys" pay the overwhelming majority of taxes, right? The top 1% pays roughly 40% of all income taxes. The top 10% pay roughly 70% while the bottom 50% pay around 3%. Yes, the wealthy have most of the money but they also pay most of the taxes. Why liberals think the rich pay no taxes is beyond me. Someone has to pay for all those child tax credits for the people making under $20,000 with three kids and no high school diploma.

I want the government to continue paying off social security to all the elderly who paid in.  I want the government to provide good schools for children to gain an education.  I want the government to have good roads for people to use.  I don't want the top 1% to gain a trillion dollars that could have gone to these things.

Maybe if the majority of budget spending didn't go towards Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid along with all the immense waste within the government we could do those things, though I'd say in large part our education problems aren't a money issue but rather cultural decline.

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Funny how the Democrats used to sound like Trump. Just goes to show how far left the Dems have gone. What was that about a boogiemam? Be honest. The Democrats looked at demographic projections and figured it was in their best interests to get on the side of the immigrants in the name of political power.

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Nulltard, again you keep posting these memes that actually embody the Democrat mission statement - I might not have much but the Democrats will make sure others have even less... because the government will take what everyone else has and redistribute it to ensure equality and fairness.

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The FTC will once again have primary oversight when it comes to protecting consumer's rights and deal with anything that might stifle competition just like before.

Maybe you missed out on it (probably due to right-winged lies about how Net Neutrality stifles competition) but the government just did the exact opposite of what you say the FTC will do.

Explain.

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I could make a lengthy list of things he and those in his administration have accomplished but really, why bother?

Why bother? Because you have a fucking point to make. You can’t come into a discussion, say “You guys are wrong, but I’m not going to actually give examples of why you are wrong. You just are!”

List five things that he has done to improve this country since he has been inaugurated. Five, with some sort of documented backup.

Was Obama fantastic? Nope, not even close. But he wasn’t a maniacal, egotistical, racist, misogynistic, bafoon.
He is moving this country backwards, in so many ways.

If you actually read my post I listed numerous things but I'm not going to waste my time writing a dissertation with "documented backup" when you didn't even read my post. It's up to you to do some research instead of watching MSNBC and looking at the Huffpost and Vox all day.

As for Obama not being a "maniacal, egotistical, racist, misogynistic, bafoon" he most certainly was egotistical, racist, and a buffoon. And moving the country backwards? Seriously? In what way?

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Because ISPs haven't yet done the things net neutrality was meant to protect, it's guaranteed that then never would.... even though such things have already come to pass in other countries?  Impeccable logic!

And I always enjoy the tired old saw about how the government fucks up everything they touch.  It shows just how ignorant you are.

Ignorant? In case you haven't noticed the government is slow, wasteful and extremely inefficient though in some areas moreso than others. Hell, the government just spent over $100,000 to teach immigrants how to use Facebook. Like a good socialist though you keep asking for more government, more government.  It's not as though there will be zero regulation of the internet. The FTC will once again have primary oversight when it comes to protecting consumer's rights and deal with anything that might stifle competition just like before.

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Great.  He's a corporate shill giving big business what they want and he's creating fear where none should be to create a boogeyman enemy to oppose.  That's "getting shit done" apparently.

Um, not all businesses are big businesses. The tax bill benefits small businesses and they make up the majority of all businesses. You lefties demonize business but they're the job creators. Not everyone can get a posh government job where you can't get fired, make on average more than in the private sector, and get every federal holiday off. Quit watching MSNBC so much. Also, this boogie man you're talking about. You lefties are all a bunch of Neville Chamberlains, thinking you can apologize, appease, or pay off anyone who would do this nation and it's people harm. No need to create an enemy to oppose. Unfortunately there are plenty outside of this country and within as well.

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Nulltard, it's funny because that's the mantra of liberalism, not conservatism. Everyone is a victim in the world of the left. Every failure MUST be because of someone's race, gender, sexuality, income level, education level, or what have you. If you failed, it's because of the system. Someone holding you down. It's probably some evil white man too. You are a victim. You are owed everything. If someone has more than you, it must because they obtained it through some unfair means and it's the job of the government to make it right, by force if necessary. That's liberalism in a nutshell.

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Face it, Trump is already doing more for this country than Obama did in eight years. While the left just cries racism, sexism, xenophobia, homophobia all day and calls him a Nazi, Stalin, KKK, Trump is actually getting shit done.

What "shit" exactly is Trump accomplishing?

I could make a lengthy list of things he and those in his administration have accomplished but really, why bother? If you're even somewhat politically informed you already know what he's done and will either attribute it to Obama (stock market, GDP growth, crushing of ISIS, low unemployment, job growth, consumer confidence, etc), call it racism (decrease in border crossings, gang member arrests, travel ban, US embassy moving to Jerusalem, etc), call it hand outs for the rich and corporations (tax bill, cutting regulations, net neutrality gone, etc), a war on women (rollback of contraceptive mandate in Obamacare, rollback of Mexico City Policy, amending Title IX guidelines, etc), a war on the environment (drilling in Anwar, Keystone, XL pipelines, pulling out of Paris Climate Accord) and whatever else. I'm sure there's an insidious motive behind reforming the VA, pulling out of TPP, decertifying the Iran nuclear deal, and everything else because he's a horrible, racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, transphobic monster, right?

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Wow, I can't believe how much the internet has changed since Net Neutrality was voted down. It's almost like 2014 again. Oh the humanity!

Quoted for preservation. Will revisit later when things have had enough time to go to shite.

Same here. I mean, we all trust the government to oversee, regulate, and police everything else it has it's tentacles in, right? More government because they do such a great job.  Really, net neutrality really did so much great stuff, didn't it? My internet worked exactly the same way as it did before but my prices went up considerably. Still only one cable company here because of local restrictions that didn't change under NN. The internet grew exponentially before 2015 but never mind that. Once again, it's those evil, greedy, no good rich people at it again screwing over the little guy like they always do. Obama tried to save us but that horrible, evil, racist Trump sided with the rich people. Liberals.

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http://trumpgolfcount.com/

He owns golf courses. He has vacation homes at golf courses. He spends his time away from the White House on his own properties and does business and spends time negotiating while golfing. That's the difference between him and Obama on that front. Face it, Trump is already doing more for this country than Obama did in eight years. While the left just cries racism, sexism, xenophobia, homophobia all day and calls him a Nazi, Stalin, KKK, Trump is actually getting shit done. Seriously, that's all the left has. Oh, and that Trump is going to kill all these poor people by taking from them and giving it all to those evil, slimy corrupt horrible greedy rich people who stole everything from the innocent little guy. It's the same recycled garbage used over and over by wealthy socialist Democrats stoking class warfare and racial tension to keep getting re-elected. While the left sits around worshipping Crazy Bernie the millionaire socialist and those charitable Clintons who somehow ended up making a couple hundred million dollars over the last 20 years, Trump is working to solve the major problems this country has been facing for years but few politician have had the guts to tackle. And that's in the face of an unprecedented misinformation and slander campaign by the overwhelming majority of the media, the Dems, and many Republicans. In the end nothing will come of this whole Russia investigation scam other than it being a calculated plan to stymie Trump as much a possible by both the Dems, some Republican "Never Trumpers", and some within the intelligence community. Slowly but surely the details of the real collusion are coming out with the whole dossier, Fusion GPS, and the Dems and in the end it will be interesting to see how it all comes out.

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Wow, I can't believe how much the internet has changed since Net Neutrality was voted down. It's almost like 2014 again. Oh the humanity!

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[Off-Topic / Re: Donald Trump Thread aka End of Days]

I feel like everything I said in my last post applies directly to this.  Even if Walmart does pay its employees more than $7.15/hour, can a person working full time at Wal-mart (or the more common 39.5 hours to ensure that they don't get benefits) afford the things I listed before:  rent a single bedroom apartment, make car payments, be able to eat, pay for health care, and have a bit left over for clothes/car insurance/etc.?  No, being the kid that brings in the karts from the parking lot shouldn't be your end goal but the company should still pay enough to where someone doing that job full time can live.

One of my friends' daughter has been with Wal-Mart for a little over a year and is making $11 an hour already working in the electronics department. There are such things as raises and other options. Also, like I mentioned before, most of these kinds of jobs are entry level jobs where you either dedicate yourself and work you way up the managerial ladder or use it as a stepping stone to something better. I know shit happens and sometimes life throws you a curveball but you shouldn't be 45 years old with three kids trying to make ends meet on minimum wage. That's why I say go to college, learn a trade, or at least become some sort of retail manager before you go having kids that you can't afford to take care and fuck your life up. Again, personal responsibility. Get some stability in your life. Get married and established. People do it all the time and it's not just the super wealthy. Not everyone who is well off was born with a silver spoon in their mouths. Despite what Obama might have told you, yes, if you do something with your life you did it. You built that.

As stated earlier, Scandinavian countries have the highest standard of living.  Perhaps trying to be more like those countries would be a start?

Denmark and other Scandinavian countries are portrayed by Bernie Sanders and other liberals as being some utopia but it's really not. Some of the stats are nice but if you look below the surface you find that Denmark is in trouble because of enormous private debt being built up and the fact that the welfare programs are supported by oil revenues, which are suffering. Productivity is stagnant and taxation is insane. Yes, many of the stats are impressive but it's not all perfect like Bernie might have you think. Also, what innovation do you see coming from Scandinavia? The drive for innovation and big ideas isn't there because the government is just going to take everything anyway whereas here in America, if you have a big idea or if you work twice as hard as the other guy you can make it big. One of my favorite guitarists, Yngwie Malmsteen, has long talked about Scandinavia, being from Sweden, and how there was nothing to drive the people there and he knew if he wanted to get anywhere he had to come to America. Don't let anyone tell you "trickle down economics" doesn't work. Even crazy Uncle Joe Biden voted for the 1986 tax cuts. Letting people keep more of their own money along with creating a better environment for corporations and small business to expand and create jobs is how you stimulate the economy. Plus you bring a few trillion dollars back into the economy by offering a reasonable repatriation rate for the wealthy to bring money back from overseas accounts. Exorbitant tax rates and endless government programs is not the answer.
 

I feel that America is one of the best places in the world in which to be rich.  At the same time, I feel that it is not one of the best places in the world to be in the middle of the pack.  I feel that an economic system designed around making the middle class strong and healthy would be ideal.  I'm much more concerned about the people in the middle than I am the guy at the top.

America is still a great place to be middle class. However, admittedly America has increasingly become like an hourglass, with all the sand being at the top and bottom quickly passing through the middle. I'm all for closing all the loopholes used to avoid paying taxes and implementing policies to discourage sending jobs out of the country. I do feel that many corporations have screwed America over and bolstered rival nations like China at the expense of the American worker. Where would China be today without American corporations outsourcing the manufacturing of their products the past several decades? Something should've been done to curb this decades ago. However, this isn't all corporations and the benefits of trickle down economics have still been felt not only through the countless technological innovations we enjoy in our everyday lives but the millions of middle class people who've done well working a 40 hour week and owning a house, multiple vehicles and raising their kids.

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Seieienbu, name me a single corporation that starts it's workers at $7.15. I know Wal-Mart doesn't. Kroger doesn't. Target doesn't, I believe. McDonald's doesn't. I don't know of a single one. There might be some out there but I don't know any.

As for blaming workers, I'm making points that liberals don't want to hear, namely that flipping burgers isn't a career and $15 an hour for a greeter is ridiculous. Stop corporate abuses but quit acting like wealthy people don't pay their fair share of taxes. Liberals propagate this idea that if someone is rich it's because some rich guy fucked them over.

Lastly, what is your ideal system of economics? If things are so bad in America, what system should we be using?

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WalMart, McDonalds provide millions of jobs, sure. Millions of jobs that don't pay a living wage and give horseshit benefits, if any at all. You sure you want to hold up the Waltons as your example of how "trickle down economics" works? Are you positive, man? McDonald's? Really?

I used them as an example because A), that's generally where people go to complain about a "living wage" and B), because they're among the largest employers in America. Flipping burgers isn't meant to be a career. Do you really think someone should be able to walk in the door and make $15 an hour mopping floors and taking the trash out? Either you bust your ass and work your way up the ladder or use it as a stepping stone towards something better. If you're content to work fast food until you retire because you have no aspirations in life, that's your problem.

I'll help you out here: next time you make this argument, maybe use Costco as an example. You know, a company who has a CEO who makes a decent and reasonable living and pays its employees well and gives them good benefits. Don't use two of the most notorious corporations in the country.

Don't get me wrong, it pisses me off too when I see the pay of CEOs skyrocketing versus how much money they pay their employees. As mentioned before, I pointed them out because they employ so many people and are frequent targets of the "living wage" advocates, whatever that means. What's a living wage? Is $15 really a living wage? How about $20? Fuck it. $50 an hour, full insurance, weekends off for the kids, and a company car and apartment. There's your utopia. Just don't get mad when a hamburger costs $100 and gas is $50 a gallon.

Then we move on to the "fuck those poor people and illegal immigrants stealing our jobs" argument. Are there people who abuse the system? Sure as hell there are. Are they to blame for your job losses while those poor, abused CEOs and wealthy are over-taxed, demonized, and forced to send low-paying jobs overseas? Come on, man. Give me a break. They don't send those jobs overseas because they're overtaxed. They send them overseas because they can pay some Chinese kid pennies on the dollar to make their products. Those jobs aren't coming back unless our minimum wage goes away, despite what our Dipshit in Chief says. He's just scapegoating.

I love how you casually dismiss the impact of all the social programs on the budget. Our social programs account for over half of the budget. We now have generations of people living off of the government and we're importing millions more year after year. As for the jobs going overseas, yes, I hate the fact that so many companies have moved their factories. However, unions are partially responsible for a lot of the outsourcing. Yes, unions are supposed to protect workers and fight for better wages, benefits, etc. However, in some cases demands are too high and lead to companies closing or sending jobs elsewhere. I'm not anti-union because I do think workers need protection from abuses and deserve to be paid a reasonable wage for the jobs they do, and that doesn't mean $15 an hour for greeting people at the front door.

The tax rate for corporations are statutory and a really good bit of red herring to dangle in front of suckers willing to believe that the poor and immigrants are to blame for their woes. Corporations use deductions and credits, and wind up paying waaaaay less than 38%. They're not getting their taxes done by an intern at H&R Block, my friend.

After deductions and credits the effective tax rate for most corporations is about 25%, which is still higher that many other comparable countries like Great Britain, France and other G-7 nations. Plus, one of the main things that is being discussed is eliminating the tax loopholes and credits used by the wealthy, which is a good thing, right? Higher tax rates doesn't necessarily mean more tax revenue and can have a negative effect on the economy. You want to talk about victimhood? It gets tiresome hearing the burger flipping high school dropout spending $5 a day on a pack of cigarettes bitch and moan about "the man" and how the evil corporations screwed them over.

Poor, abused corporations. They wanna give jobs to the poor. But the evil government won't let them. And the Walton family are just soooo upset about not being able to pay their employees a living wage. But the evil government won't let them.

You and your corporate boogeyman syndrome. Without corporations, where are you going to get your IPhone? Where are you going to shop for food and clothes? Who's going to make your video games? Business is not a charity. No business is obligated to hire more people than they want to nor pay a legion of dumbasses $15 an hour to stand around flapping their gums and checking their phones every ten minutes, which is unfortunately what our society has transformed into. Seriously, there is a substantial number of people who have zero work ethic and never will, and to arbitrarily grant them some massive raise rather than base it upon merit is ridiculous. It's the liberal thing to do but still ridiculous.

Now let's be fair, I've whipped hard to the left to respond to your hard right assertions. But the answer, as always, lies somewhere in the middle. Again, Costco is a great example of capitalism and "trickle down" done right. But you've gotta be reasonable about it. Corporate greed is real, just as entitlement abuse is real. The only difference is that corporate greed costs our country far more than a handful - or even "millions" - of poor people cashing $500 welfare checks every month.

I agree that corporate greed is real and I would love to see things done to stop abuses. I'd love to see all the loopholes closed and things put in place to discourage American companies from outsourcing jobs. However, with that said, I think it's time to start weaning Americans off of government programs and take care of only the most desperate of people. Importing millions of unskilled, uneducated people with nothing but the shirt on their backs just because America has a white guilt complex isn't good for the economy or the country as a whole.

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Trickle down economics doesn't work.  Giving a tax break to people who already hide money in foreign banks gives them more money to hide in foreign banks.  Raising taxes on the super rich and on corporations can allow the government to spend money and put it in the hands of Americans like teachers, construction workers, soldiers, police, etc.

We can have better education, infrastructure, and defense or the multi billionaires can add more zeroes to their bank accounts.  I think one idea is better than the other but maybe I'm not being fair to the multi billionaires and should put myself in their shoes before arguing over the internet about taxation.

Bullshit. "Trickle down economics" is the ONLY system that works. Industry creates wealth. Industry creates jobs. The government doesn't create wealth, it only takes wealth. As much as you might not like corporations like Wal-Mart, McDonalds, Home Depot or whatever, they provide millions of jobs and service millions of people. As we're seeing in so many socialist countries in Western Europe where social programs and high taxation have stalled their economies and lead them to financial ruin, the same thing has happened to the United States. The rich already pay the majority of taxes while half of Americans pay no federal taxes and often receive more in benefits than they've ever paid in. In case you haven't noticed the government receives trillions of dollars in tax revenue and still our infrastructure and education systems are crap. The government could confiscate all the wealth of all the billionaires and they'd still blow it. Now, I'm all for closing loopholes used to avoid paying taxes but this whole "fair share" stuff is bullshit. We have millions of people fucking their lives up, flunking school, having kids they can't afford, get fucked up on drugs, etc etc etc and the American taxpayer is expected to take care of them, not to mention the illegal immigrants competing for low wage jobs, burdening the education system, receiving benefits that they shouldn't be eligible for, etc. We already spend a substantial amount of the budget on countless government programs and we're headed over the cliff with ballooning Social Security costs. What was meant to be safety net programs have become a way of life for millions and we're pretty much screwed because of it.

Lastly, the whole idea behind lowering the corporate tax rates is to make America more competitive with other companies like South Korea, China, and Japan. So many jobs have been sent elsewhere because it's cheaper for corporations to make their products in other countries and import them back to the US. Whereas our current rate is 38%, with the effective rate being about 25% after deductions, many other companies are much lower. With a lower tax rate here in the US companies will keep jobs here and possibly bring them back here. That means more jobs for Americans, more expenditures by corporations, more competition and hopefully better wages. As Margaret Thatcher famously said, "The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." That's what is happening across Western Europe and here in the US as well. The left loves to portray rich people as the devil, at least corporate rich people but not celebrities. Are there abuses? Yes, and they need to be changed but capitalism is the most successful economic system the world has ever known and provided the most good for the greatest amount of people.

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Looks cool but damn, way too expensive. Plus it better have a massive amount of storage for the iso files.

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This is why I never achieved a full SGX set. Damned 1941 is just too expensive.

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Interested in Ys.

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Ah no fuck this thread! I hate that it just got bumped again. I want one so bad but don't quite have the money for it right now.

Must. Resist. Urge. To. Just. Buy. One. Anyway.

You're not missing much. I've owned two of them and while they look cool as hell in your entertainment center, they're not really worth the money. The picture quality for LD movie playback isn't that good compared to other cheaper LD players, the PACs are too expensive, especially the NEC PACs, and the handful of LD games that are worth a damn are exorbitantly priced, like Road Prosecutor and Time Gal.

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