...is the biggest piece of crap ever! No, I am not trash talking for no reason!
-The hit box is ridiculous.
-mandatory hits (Any good shmup does not force you to get hit).
-being stuck in a wall leads to instant death (other GOOD shooters make you invincible, so you can pass through the wall).
-you speed down when your hit! (Good luck at the final boss)
-They do not heal you after you beat a level.
-Some weapons do NOT hurt the boss, unless you in a specific position.
I am a very forgiving person when it comes to old games, and I have beaten the likes of Super Raiden, Rayxanber II, Gradius II and Truxton. But this piece of crap is a chore to play, and the flaws stick out like a sore thumb. I seen a review of this game at GAME DEN, and I can tell you, that guy was not in his senses when he wrote that review. I am guessing he played the first few levels, and made his judgment. But please do yourself a favor, and DO not listen to him! This game is terrible. I can't believe how the likes of Rayxanber and Truxton can get 2-3 star reviews, But this piece of s**t is highly praised. I paid 5 bucks for a mint copy of this, but if anyone wants to take this sh*t off my hands for 1 dollar, I am more than willing.
Yipes!
Isn't this the sequel to Dragon Spirit? I liked that game okay. Have you tried the two player? Maybe that helps...
pm sent
lol. I actually like this game.
i think i played it once on the arcade and liked it
The things you are complaining about are/were very common among shooters back then. Expect to hate a lot of games.
I own the game and also have to admit it's a tough game, but that is just part of its charm. It's not all that bad. Some games just aren't for everyone. Ballistix might be more suited for ya... :lol:
I like Dragon Saber. Pretty good graphics too and fun to play.
I actually like it better the Dragon Spirit, if anything, I think it's easier for my lack of skillz.
I don't think this game is that bad. I'm usually pretty bad at shooters but with a little practice I was alright at this one. What is a mandatory hit? I don't understand the wall thing either. Maybe I just missed this when I was playing it. I think you are upset that it is difficult. I've played other shooters on the pc engine that are much less forgiving than this one. Like Zeta said I think you're going to hate a lot of games on this system, its just part of the times. They extended gameplay by ramping up difficulty.
I have Dragon Spirit and I kind of feel you and have similar complaints. My big issue is the dragon is a slow moving big target and speed power-ups are few and far between. Beyond that I think the game is also dull and on the boring side with the music being the only standout. It's a different kind of shooter though so I don't expect it to play like Blazing Lazers or something.
I don't have Dragon Saber, but I've played the first few levels and I think its a lot better than the original. The game seems more fun to play and the bosses are a lot bigger and interesting. I plan on picking it up in the future and giving Dragon Spirit another try.
Ninnypants trolling again?
You're confusing difficulty and being a tad unfair with crap. If you want to see real 'worst episode evah!' shooties, go play something like Toilet Kids or Toy Shop Boys, or just go away. I'm hoping for the latter.
QuoteWhat is a mandatory hit?
Littering the screen with bullets in a narrow corridor, and giving you no space to maneuver. This happened to me in the last few levels.
QuoteThe things you are complaining about are/were very common among shooters back then.
I played a lot of shooters, and none of them are as badly designed as this. This is difficult by flawed design, so the player has no choice but to blame the *dumbass* developers for not testing the game.
QuoteExpect to hate a lot of games.
I've beaten 52 Pc-engine shooters (quality ones), and I've beaten the likes of Gaiares (1 credit clear), lightening force, bio-hazard battle, Musha, Granada, Area 88, Gradius 3, Axelay, R-type 3, biometal, and many others. I liked all these these games. I just don't support badly designed games that frustrate the player.
QuoteYou're confusing difficulty and being a tad unfair with crap.
It's a bit of both.
Quote from: ddd1234 on 09/06/2011, 09:53 PMI've beaten 52 Pc-engine shooters (quality ones), and I've beaten the likes of Gaiares (1 credit clear), lightening force, bio-hazard battle, Musha, Granada, Area 88, Gradius 3, Axelay, R-type 3, biometal, and many others. I liked all these these games. I just don't support badly designed games that frustrate the player.
Nintega?
Quote from: TurboXray on 09/06/2011, 10:28 PMQuote from: ddd1234 on 09/06/2011, 09:53 PMI've beaten 52 Pc-engine shooters (quality ones), and I've beaten the likes of Gaiares (1 credit clear), lightening force, bio-hazard battle, Musha, Granada, Area 88, Gradius 3, Axelay, R-type 3, biometal, and many others. I liked all these these games. I just don't support badly designed games that frustrate the player.
Nintega?
No friend...I am not Nintenga.
Quote-The hit box is ridiculous.
Agree with that, even for an oldschool shooter.
Quote-mandatory hits (Any good shmup does not force you to get hit).
I really don't see what you mean.
Quote-being stuck in a wall leads to instant death (other GOOD shooters make you invincible, so you can pass through the wall).
This is quite common in oldschool shooters featuring walls.
Quote-you speed down when your hit! (Good luck at the final boss)
Very common thing.
Quote-They do not heal you after you beat a level.
Quite common even though I agree it's frustrating.
Quote-Some weapons do NOT hurt the boss, unless you in a specific position.
You mean the bombs? Of course you have to hit the target, it's aprt of the gameplay. The game makes you get near the bosses in order to be able to beat them. I don't see what's wrong with that.
Dragon Saber is on my to play list, I've only played into the first couple of levels.
But I've played all the way through Dragon Spirit, I thought that was a good game.
Quote from: guest on 09/06/2011, 12:19 PMIf you want to see real 'worst episode evah!' shooties, go play something like Toilet Kids or Toy Shop Boys
Oh so now we're hating on real shooters? Bitch, please... =; :roll:
Quote from: geise on 09/07/2011, 01:19 PMOh so now we're hating on real shooters? Bitch, please... =; :roll:
Ya got me. Those two are clearly top notch shooties on par with
Soldier Blade and
Blazing Lazers.
You know it! O:)
Don't ever play ninja gaiden :P
Quote from: Senshi on 09/07/2011, 02:51 PMDon't ever play ninja gaiden :P
Too late, already beaten NG 1-2 on my Nes and NG 3 on my Famicom.
Quote from: ddd1234 on 09/06/2011, 09:53 PMI've beaten 52 Pc-engine shooters (quality ones), ...
You keep a spreadsheet or are you savant?
I'm on team-Spirit/Saber-is-good!
Quote from: shubibiman on 09/07/2011, 04:37 AMQuote-mandatory hits (Any good shmup does not force you to get hit).
Would be nice if you actually read my last post.
QuoteThis is quite common in oldschool shooters featuring walls.
This has hit points. So no excuse for this.
Elemental Master allows you to pass through walls.
So do some shmups that grant temp shields.
QuoteVery common thing.
I don't know what kinda shooters you play, But I never came across a shooter that takes away your speed with damage.
QuoteQuite common even though I agree it's frustrating.
Maybe, although I never came across one like this. But they should have been more generous with health, considering how frustrating the game is.
QuoteYou mean the bombs? Of course you have to hit the target, it's aprt of the gameplay. The game makes you get near the bosses in order to be able to beat them. I don't see what's wrong with that.
I picked up the light blue power up, the one that allows you to shoot homing waves. I could not hurt the boss head on, and I had to stay near the top screen so those stupid waves can hit his weak point. What the heck was that s**t? So stupid, considering I could hurt him head on with any other power up.
Quote from: majors on 09/07/2011, 03:24 PMYou keep a spreadsheet or are you savant?
http://www.pcedaisakusen.net/2/29/my-collection--0-0-100-name-asc-0.htm (red dots beside the name indicate that i've beaten the game ON MY system)
Quote from: ddd1234 on 09/07/2011, 03:21 PMQuote from: Senshi on 09/07/2011, 02:51 PMDon't ever play ninja gaiden :P
Too late, already beaten NG 1-2 on my Nes and NG 3 on my Famicom.
haha....well then you can definitely beat dragon saber I would think.
I'll try again. But honestly, these overlooked design flaws have killed my motivation. It will take some time before I consider going back to it.
ROLPH!
Quote from: Senshi on 09/07/2011, 02:51 PMDon't ever play ninja gaiden :P
Yeah ninja gaiden wasnt a very good shooter
I mean you can't even fly.
:)
dragon saber is great though. I really like both those games. Haters = sissies.
I mentioned ninja gaiden because it is one of the most unfair games i've ever played. so :P
ganja gayden
Quote from: guest on 09/07/2011, 08:19 PMQuote from: Senshi on 09/07/2011, 02:51 PMDon't ever play ninja gaiden :P
Yeah ninja gaiden wasnt a very good shooter
I mean you can't even fly.
:)
dragon saber is great though. I really like both those games. Haters = sissies.
The games that i've beaten will make you cry brah.
wow, very mighty words there!
Quote from: ddd1234 on 09/07/2011, 11:09 PMThe games that i've beaten will make you cry brah.
Why? Because they suck? What does that statement even mean, really?
The stuff Dragon Saber does occasionally annoys me, but it's certainly nothing out of the ordinary and was relatively common in many types of games at the time. It's probably good that you haven't played many of those other games, either, given how much those annoyances seem to get to you. I'm sorry you don't like Dragon Saber. It must not be the right game for you. Play something else. I won't hold it against you if you do.
Quote from: Tatsujin on 09/07/2011, 11:22 PMwow, very mighty words there!
Thank you Truxton.
@Spenoza
No, because they are difficult in a fair way and will not annoy you. Also, you won't have to deal with retarded issues that experienced Shmup developers would not even dare overlook.
In other words, If you lose in a game, you will blame yourself for your incompetence, and not the developers.
Quote from: ddd1234 on 09/08/2011, 02:47 AMIn other words, If you lose in a game, you will blame yourself for your lack of incompetence, and not the developers.
Fear not - you'll never have that particular problem. :lol:
I personally like the game. I have played far worse shooters than Dragon Saber. I don't even think Dragon Saber is a bad game, it's just a typical shooter from the late 80's early 90's. I don't blame a game that I have a hard time beating from design flaws. Yeah it affects gameplay, but there should still be a way to beat it. My qestion for the main poster is when did you first start playing shooters? I know I will probably not get a legit answer, but my guess is you started with bullet hell shooters that had super mega tiny hit boxes. Probably a Cave game or some other shooter like Giga Wing or Mars Matrix. Playing games like that and then going to the old school stuff makes people way less forgiving to older shooters.
Quote from: guest on 09/08/2011, 09:43 AMQuote from: ddd1234 on 09/08/2011, 02:47 AMIn other words, If you lose in a game, you will blame yourself for your lack of incompetence, and not the developers.
Fear not - you'll never have that particular problem. :lol:
oops...sorry that sounded kinda ridiculous. fixed.
Quote from: geise on 09/08/2011, 11:48 AMI personally like the game. I have played far worse shooters than Dragon Saber. I don't even think Dragon Saber is a bad game, it's just a typical shooter from the late 80's early 90's. I don't blame a game that I have a hard time beating from design flaws. Yeah it affects gameplay, but there should still be a way to beat it. My qestion for the main poster is when did you first start playing shooters? I know I will probably not get a legit answer, but my guess is you started with bullet hell shooters that had super mega tiny hit boxes. Probably a Cave game or some other shooter like Giga Wing or Mars Matrix. Playing games like that and then going to the old school stuff makes people way less forgiving to older shooters.
Started with Gate of Thunder, and worked my way through other 16-bit shooters.
Yeah, I beat Thunder Spirits for the SNES like 6 times, does that give me some cred with you?
Quote from: GobanToba on 09/08/2011, 01:41 PMYeah, I beat Thunder Spirits for the SNES like 6 times, does that give me some cred with you?
I never played that one. But Thunder Force III is pretty easy.
ddd1234 I'm suprised you had difficulty with Dragon Saber as just remembered in this thread https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=9450.msg165027#msg165027
you said you clocked Super Star Soldier on your second go of the game.
:D
Quote from: ddd1234 on 03/23/2011, 07:17 PMBut i was able to beat SSS on my 2nd go without losing more than 1 life.
Sounds like you have some very impressive Shmup skills, you should put together some Super Play DVDs.
Quote from: ddd1234 on 09/07/2011, 11:09 PMQuote from: Psycho Arkhan on 09/07/2011, 08:19 PMQuote from: Senshi on 09/07/2011, 02:51 PMDon't ever play ninja gaiden :P
Yeah ninja gaiden wasnt a very good shooter
I mean you can't even fly.
:)
dragon saber is great though. I really like both those games. Haters = sissies.
The games that i've beaten will make you cry brah.
lets see the list, oh ignorant one. I call bullshit.
"LOOK AT ME I BEAT A BUNCH OF GAMES THEREFORE AM HARDCOER AND CAN TELL EVERYONE IM 1337 LOLLOLOL"
I beat all 3 Hydlides. I bet at least one of those will make you cry, BRO.
i remember beating the hydlides
Quote from: HardcoreOtaku on 09/08/2011, 05:01 PMddd1234 I'm suprised you had difficulty with Dragon Saber as just remembered in this thread https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=9450.msg165027#msg165027
you said you clocked Super Star Soldier on your second go of the game.
:D
Quote from: ddd1234 on 03/23/2011, 07:17 PMBut i was able to beat SSS on my 2nd go without losing more than 1 life.
Sounds like you have some very impressive Shmup skills, you should put together some Super Play DVDs.
But in SSS you do not have to constantly worry about your stupid hit box, so you have more confidence.
@Arkhan Try beating Volfied on one credit (as i did). Than Try beating Gradius III Arcade. : l
Even this might be a difficult game, I has to be possible to master. You know there's some hardcore Dragon Saber nut in Japan that tears it up still
Quote from: elabit on 09/08/2011, 10:05 PMEven this might be a difficult game, I has to be possible to master. You know there's some hardcore Dragon Saber nut in Japan that tears it up still
Any videos of this helpless chap playing D.S.?
Quote from: ddd1234 on 03/23/2011, 07:17 PMBut i was able to beat SSS on my 2nd go without losing more than 1 life.
That is some Rain Man shit right there. So what's the deal then? Dragon Saber's your Achille's heel? All the more reason for you to beat the game. All shmups have cheap parts in them somewhere. I think you're just so used to being badass, that you're mad that this one's got your goat ;)
Isn't Rayxamber II supposed to be like the hardest shooter of them all?
Ok, ill replay this game and give you the good news in few days.
Quote from: ddd1234 on 09/08/2011, 09:12 PM@Arkhan Try beating Volfied on one credit (as i did). Than Try beating Gradius III Arcade. : l
I beat Mario 3 without dying with my dick strapped to my wrist while chewing on glass.
see, I can make things up too.
pics/vids or it didn't happen. Put up or shut up.
Quote from: guest on 09/09/2011, 12:33 AMQuote from: ddd1234 on 09/08/2011, 09:12 PM@Arkhan Try beating Volfied on one credit (as i did). Than Try beating Gradius III Arcade. : l
I beat Mario 3 without dying with my dick strapped to my wrist while chewing on glass.
see, I can make things up too.
pics/vids or it didn't happen. Put up or shut up.
Enjoy- http://youtu.be/erGzgSegA2U
Now show me you beating Mario 3 without dying with your dick strapped to your wrist while chewing on glass.
Why are you so forceful about what games you've beaten? And why should we care? I suck at most games, but I play them because I like them. My success or lack of success should be largely irrelevant, and nobody here should care what games I can and cannot beat, or how I beat them. I may wish to brag, but nobody here should care. You seem so emphatic I have to wonder if there's an underlying self-esteem issue.
Edit: In retrospect, this reads more harshly than I think I intended. I apologize. Still, the meat of it is important enough I'm leaving it. Basically, I'm glad you're awesome at shooters. I like watching good shooter longplays on YouTube as I'm a shooter fan. The way you present your skills, however, is such an antithesis of humble that it kinda sounds like you demand we respect your skills, without you putting much else on the table to attempt to draw us in.
As for Dragon Saber, those cheap tricks you complain about can often be got around with a little memorization. Hell, R-type has some dead-ends I think are a little cheap until you've played the levels a few times, but it's still regarded as one of the best early shooters ever created. I think Dragon Saber is regarded more for the music than the gameplay anyway. It does have a rather nice soundtrack. I can't say I've ever thought of Namco as a company strong in the ways of shooters. Once Galaga become old hat they only paid the genre lip service.
I honestly thought this thread was a joke. I beat Dragon Saber playing on the tiny Express screen without even dying. I don't know what the whining is about. This game is so easy.
Quote from: GobanToba on 09/09/2011, 01:36 AMI honestly thought this thread was a joke. I beat Dragon Saber playing on the tiny Express screen without even dying. I don't know what the whining is about. This game is so easy.
Oh yeah, and I had the brightness all the way down and played in direct sunlight.
I heard Kenny Powers only plays Dragon Saber.
"Gradius III"? Considering you listed it next to "R-Type 3", I'm guessing you mean the
SNES version. If so, congratulations, you've beaten the easiest Gradius game in the entire
series. Now stop bragging and go play the arcade version. PUSSY!
the Yu0tube vid showed clearly the arcade version on heaviest difficult level.
Quote from: TurboXray on 09/08/2011, 10:58 PMI think you're just so used to being badass, that you're mad that this one's got your goat ;)
I think he's just a trolling whiner that likes to bitch.
Quote from: Tatsujin on 09/09/2011, 09:39 AMthe Yu0tube vid showed clearly the arcade version on heaviest difficult level.
Interesting fact. That's Seahawk's video. Seahawk posts on the shmups forum under the same
exact name of "Seahawk". He posted that vid long ago. So why would someone who has accounts
on multiple sits with the same name register here under the totally random "ddd1234" name?
Cause he's taking credit for another's acheivement.
Quote from: SuperDeadite on 09/09/2011, 09:47 AMQuote from: Tatsujin on 09/09/2011, 09:39 AMthe Yu0tube vid showed clearly the arcade version on heaviest difficult level.
Interesting fact. That's Seahawk's video. Seahawk posts on the shmups forum under the same
exact name of "Seahawk". He posted that vid long ago. So why would someone who has accounts
on multiple sits with the same name register here under the totally random "ddd1234" name?
Cause he's taking credit for another's acheivement.
Yeah, i didn't say that dd1234 = seahawk. just refered to the vid he posted. so let's find that out.
Quote from: SuperDeadite on 09/09/2011, 09:47 AMCause he's taking credit for another's acheivement.
Wouldn't be the first time.
Quote from: guest on 09/09/2011, 09:55 AMQuote from: SuperDeadite on 09/09/2011, 09:47 AMCause he's taking credit for another's acheivement.
Wouldn't be the first time.
So your're on the same track?
Quote from: Tatsujin on 09/09/2011, 09:58 AMSo you're on the same track?
I'm on the crazy train track. You?
Hall of shame...here we come :P
*giggles*
(https://web.archive.org/web/20110613115511im_/http://goofygifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/funny-animated-gifs-hamster-loves-popcorn.gif)
Quote from: Tatsujin on 09/09/2011, 09:39 AMthe Yu0tube vid showed clearly the arcade version on heaviest difficult level.
It was suppose to be a joke. He asked for a proof and I gave to him.
Quote from: SuperDeadite on 09/09/2011, 08:52 AM"Gradius III"? Considering you listed it next to "R-Type 3", I'm guessing you mean the
SNES version. If so, congratulations, you've beaten the easiest Gradius game in the entire
series. Now stop bragging and go play the arcade version. PUSSY!
Not very lady like SuperDeadite.
Quote from: ddd1234 on 09/09/2011, 01:08 AMNow show me you beating Mario 3 without dying with your dick strapped to your wrist while chewing on glass.
HAHAHAH YOU WANT TO SEE MY WEENER STRAPPED TO MY WRIST. YOURE SILLY.
ff55e-Yall_niggas_postin_in_a_troll_thread.jpg
Level 4 boss.
YAWN....
DragonSaberLvl4Boss.webp
This is cake compared to the stuff I usually beat. :lol:
Quote from: ddd1234 on 09/09/2011, 10:45 AMQuote from: Tatsujin on 09/09/2011, 09:39 AMthe Yu0tube vid showed clearly the arcade version on heaviest difficult level.
It was suppose to be a joke. He asked for a proof and I gave to him.
Proof of what? That you can find a playthrough of a game on youtube and consider that some form of proof that you can clear the game? If that is the case here is a video of
me clearing Image Fight II!
http://youtu.be/aXFFf4M4MLE
and just for the record, I made this video with my dick scotch taped to my left knee while eating shards of glass just after snorting an 8 inch line of coke.
I want this game now, Ill take your copy if it's still up for grabs :)
Quote from: GobanToba on 09/09/2011, 12:42 PMLevel 4 boss.
YAWN....
DragonSaberLvl4Boss.webp
holy shit those hi res textures look awful!
Quote from: PunkCryborg on 09/09/2011, 03:44 PMI want this game now, Ill take your copy if it's still up for grabs :)
i bought it off him elabit
Quote from: JoshTurboTrollX-16 on 09/09/2011, 02:53 PMand just for the record, I made this video with my dick scotch taped to my left knee while eating shards of glass just after snorting an 8 inch line of coke.
Fuck yeah.
Later im going to stand in a pool of water and teabag a bugzapper while beating Lords of Thunder on hard without getting hit once.
Its easy.
roflmfao.jpg
Quote from: JoshTurboTrollX-16 on 09/09/2011, 02:53 PMQuote from: ddd1234 on 09/09/2011, 10:45 AMQuote from: Tatsujin on 09/09/2011, 09:39 AMthe Yu0tube vid showed clearly the arcade version on heaviest difficult level.
It was suppose to be a joke. He asked for a proof and I gave to him.
Proof of what? That you can find a playthrough of a game on youtube and consider that some form of proof that you can clear the game? If that is the case here is a video of me clearing Image Fight II!
http://youtu.be/aXFFf4M4MLE
and just for the record, I made this video with my dick scotch taped to my left knee while eating shards of glass just after snorting an 8 inch line of coke.
Wow...you feel proud of beating I.F. 2???
This is one of the easiest shooters ever made IMO (laughs at the VG den dude).
I can 1 CC this bitch anytime.
Quote from: ddd1234 on 09/09/2011, 08:37 PMQuote from: JoshTurboTrollX-16 on 09/09/2011, 02:53 PMQuote from: ddd1234 on 09/09/2011, 10:45 AMQuote from: Tatsujin on 09/09/2011, 09:39 AMthe Yu0tube vid showed clearly the arcade version on heaviest difficult level.
It was suppose to be a joke. He asked for a proof and I gave to him.
Proof of what? That you can find a playthrough of a game on youtube and consider that some form of proof that you can clear the game? If that is the case here is a video of me clearing Image Fight II!
http://youtu.be/aXFFf4M4MLE
and just for the record, I made this video with my dick scotch taped to my left knee while eating shards of glass just after snorting an 8 inch line of coke.
Wow...you feel proud of beating I.F. 2???
This is one of the easiest shooters ever made IMO (laughs at the VG den dude).
I can 1 CC this bitch anytime.
LMAO yet Dragon Sabre is whooping your ass :roll: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: Opethian on 09/09/2011, 03:54 PMQuote from: GobanToba on 09/09/2011, 12:42 PMLevel 4 boss.
YAWN....
DragonSaberLvl4Boss.webp
holy shit those hi res textures look awful!
That looks like an eagle engine to me. worst invention ever.
Quote from: nectarsis on 09/09/2011, 09:04 PMQuote from: ddd1234 on 09/09/2011, 08:37 PMQuote from: JoshTurboTrollX-16 on 09/09/2011, 02:53 PMQuote from: ddd1234 on 09/09/2011, 10:45 AMQuote from: Tatsujin on 09/09/2011, 09:39 AMthe Yu0tube vid showed clearly the arcade version on heaviest difficult level.
It was suppose to be a joke. He asked for a proof and I gave to him.
Proof of what? That you can find a playthrough of a game on youtube and consider that some form of proof that you can clear the game? If that is the case here is a video of me clearing Image Fight II!
http://youtu.be/aXFFf4M4MLE
and just for the record, I made this video with my dick scotch taped to my left knee while eating shards of glass just after snorting an 8 inch line of coke.
Wow...you feel proud of beating I.F. 2???
This is one of the easiest shooters ever made IMO (laughs at the VG den dude).
I can 1 CC this bitch anytime.
LMAO yet Dragon Sabre is whooping your ass :roll: :lol: :lol:
It is, and I wish the developers tested it B4 releasing. Why did they not flip burgers?
Quote from: ddd1234 on 09/09/2011, 09:15 PMQuote from: nectarsis on 09/09/2011, 09:04 PMQuote from: ddd1234 on 09/09/2011, 08:37 PMQuote from: JoshTurboTrollX-16 on 09/09/2011, 02:53 PMQuote from: ddd1234 on 09/09/2011, 10:45 AMQuote from: Tatsujin on 09/09/2011, 09:39 AMthe Yu0tube vid showed clearly the arcade version on heaviest difficult level.
It was suppose to be a joke. He asked for a proof and I gave to him.
Proof of what? That you can find a playthrough of a game on youtube and consider that some form of proof that you can clear the game? If that is the case here is a video of me clearing Image Fight II!
http://youtu.be/aXFFf4M4MLE
and just for the record, I made this video with my dick scotch taped to my left knee while eating shards of glass just after snorting an 8 inch line of coke.
Wow...you feel proud of beating I.F. 2???
This is one of the easiest shooters ever made IMO (laughs at the VG den dude).
I can 1 CC this bitch anytime.
LMAO yet Dragon Sabre is whooping your ass :roll: :lol: :lol:
It is, and I wish the developers tested it B4 releasing. Why did they not flip burgers?
oh, using known gliches to beat it and call it easy then?
What are you talking about bud? I don't use cheats when attempting to beat a game. It takes away from the satisfaction. If this was the case, I would be pro.
Quote from: Tatsujin on 09/09/2011, 09:04 PMQuote from: Opethian on 09/09/2011, 03:54 PMQuote from: GobanToba on 09/09/2011, 12:42 PMLevel 4 boss.
YAWN....
DragonSaberLvl4Boss.webp
holy shit those hi res textures look awful!
That looks like an eagle engine to me. worst invention ever.
I knew I was going to get crap about that! Sorry I was trying to do a quick Photoshop and didn't want to grab a camera so just fired up an emulator and MagicEngine was the first one I loaded. I actually thought about re-screen grabbing it while I was in Photoshop adding in the bullets and enemies because of that, but I was to lazy. :lol:
This is very bad photoshop.
Quote from: ddd1234 on 09/10/2011, 01:46 AMThis is very bad photoshop.
Is it? Care to point out which bullets are teh real and which are teh fake then? :-k :-" :mrgreen:
Quote from: ddd1234 on 09/09/2011, 09:21 PMWhat are you talking about bud? I don't use cheats when attempting to beat a game. It takes away from the satisfaction. If this was the case, I would be pro.
No, you just watch videos on youtube of other people beating games.
I once got to STAGE 3 of Space Harrier. Suck on that!
Quote from: ddd1234 on 09/09/2011, 09:15 PMIt is, and I wish the developers tested it B4 releasing. Why did they not flip burgers?
Dragon Saber is not some haven of fatal flaws and bad programming, and this attitude you are taking toward it sounds mostly like just bitching and moaning. If you don't like it you don't like it, but blaming the programmers on a game like this is dumb. There are far more deserving titles where blaming the programmers are appropriate.
Really, Dragon Saber is just a development of Dragon Spirit, and Dragon Spirit proved very popular in the arcades, spawning versions on the NES and PCE, which also did well. Dragon Saber is not especially different save looking and sounding a lot better.
Quote from: guest on 09/10/2011, 11:29 AMI once got to STAGE 3 of Space Harrier. Suck on that!
I already beaten space harrier on the PCE. : )
Quote from: JoshTurboTrollX-16 on 09/10/2011, 08:22 AMQuote from: ddd1234 on 09/09/2011, 09:21 PMWhat are you talking about bud? I don't use cheats when attempting to beat a game. It takes away from the satisfaction. If this was the case, I would be pro.
No, you just watch videos on youtube of other people beating games.
I am man enough to admit that I've watched R-type videos, and they gave me shortcuts to beating some bosses. That's about it.
Quote from: guest on 09/10/2011, 11:30 AMQuote from: ddd1234 on 09/09/2011, 09:15 PMIt is, and I wish the developers tested it B4 releasing. Why did they not flip burgers?
Dragon Saber is not some haven of fatal flaws and bad programming, and this attitude you are taking toward it sounds mostly like just bitching and moaning. If you don't like it you don't like it, but blaming the programmers on a game like this is dumb. There are far more deserving titles where blaming the programmers are appropriate.
Really, Dragon Saber is just a development of Dragon Spirit, and Dragon Spirit proved very popular in the arcades, spawning versions on the NES and PCE, which also did well. Dragon Saber is not especially different save looking and sounding a lot better.
There is a reason why this series faded to black. There is a reason why Dragon Saber for PCE is cheap as dirt, considering it's one of the few ports of the game.
I already listed all the flaws. This is a badly designed shooter. I don't know what else to say to get point across.
Quote from: ddd1234 on 09/10/2011, 02:09 PMQuote from: guest on 09/10/2011, 11:29 AMI once got to STAGE 3 of Space Harrier. Suck on that!
I already beaten space harrier on the PCE. : )
Yeah, and why don't we all compare penis sizes while we're at it! That's all this posturing is, anyway.
Quote from: ddd1234 on 09/10/2011, 02:09 PMQuote from: guest on 09/10/2011, 11:30 AMQuote from: ddd1234 on 09/09/2011, 09:15 PMIt is, and I wish the developers tested it B4 releasing. Why did they not flip burgers?
Dragon Saber is not some haven of fatal flaws and bad programming, and this attitude you are taking toward it sounds mostly like just bitching and moaning. If you don't like it you don't like it, but blaming the programmers on a game like this is dumb. There are far more deserving titles where blaming the programmers are appropriate.
Really, Dragon Saber is just a development of Dragon Spirit, and Dragon Spirit proved very popular in the arcades, spawning versions on the NES and PCE, which also did well. Dragon Saber is not especially different save looking and sounding a lot better.
There is a reason why this series faded to black. There is a reason why Dragon Saber for PCE is cheap as dirt, considering it's one of the few ports of the game.
I already listed all the flaws. This is a badly designed shooter. I don't know what else to say to get point across.
I disagree. I do not think it is a badly designed shooter. You are not the universal expert on what is and isn't good or bad game design. You don't like the game design. That doesn't make it bad game design. You are not the deciderer. Once you learn the difference between the two you will be a better person. Until then you are an arrogant whiner.
I'm not going to say this game is super awesome and flawless or anything, but I fail to see how its any worse than 50 other shooters from the same era with the same problems. Shit was hard back then, often totally unfair. For better or worse, thats just the way it was.
Quote from: ddd1234 on 09/10/2011, 02:09 PMQuote from: guest on 09/10/2011, 11:29 AMI once got to STAGE 3 of Space Harrier. Suck on that!
I already beaten space harrier on the PCE. : )
Yeah, but I've beaten Niki Niko Pun as well. The HARDEST game on the PCE.
Quote from: guest on 09/10/2011, 03:05 PMYeah, but I've beaten Niki Niko Pun as well. The HARDEST game on the PCE.
Damn those seagulls! Oh and the elephants blocking your way with their trunks! I've played plenty of games (SFII) where the elephant trunks don't stop you at all! Crap ass programmers!! :twisted:
Dragon Spirit series is OK. Nothing spectacular, but the games aren't seriously flawed by any stretch of the imagination.
...just focus on teh tunes and all will be well. :)
Quote from: Mathius on 09/11/2011, 12:04 AM...just focus on teh tunes and all will be well. :)
teh truth!!
I'm starting to think this originates from being a dragon and not a spaceship in the game.
Ice level=the best tune in Dragon Saber. Rest are pretty meh.
ddd1234: You purposely avoided commenting on my Rain Man comment. Are you not the Rain Man guru of shmups you claim to be or what? Also, have you beaten DS yet? What's taking you so long? Seriously...
Quote from: TurboXray on 09/11/2011, 11:43 PMddd1234: You purposely avoided commenting on my Rain Man comment. Are you not the Rain Man guru of shmups you claim to be or what? Also, have you beaten DS yet? What's taking you so long? Seriously...
He's chanting mantra in front of his
Shmup Shrine of Awesome.
yes I have beaten Dragon Spirit, but with the continue code (Obviously).
i didnt know about the continue code
Quote from: ddd1234 on 09/12/2011, 02:13 AMyes I have beaten Dragon Spirit, but with the continue code (Obviously).
Ha! And you call yourself a 'real gamer'. [-(
What kind of numb shit easily whips through some of the hardest shooters on the PCE and yet can't handle relatively tame stuff like
Dragon Spirit,
Dragon Saber, and
Forgotten Worlds?
I beat dragon spirit when I was like 8.
Quote from: thesteve on 09/12/2011, 02:59 AMi didnt know about the continue code
What's that let you do? :-s :P :lol:
Quote from: guest on 09/12/2011, 04:15 PMQuote from: ddd1234 on 09/12/2011, 02:13 AMyes I have beaten Dragon Spirit, but with the continue code (Obviously).
Ha! And you call yourself a 'real gamer'. [-(
What kind of numb shit easily whips through some of the hardest shooters on the PCE and yet can't handle relatively tame stuff like Dragon Spirit, Dragon Saber, and Forgotten Worlds?
Just got the PCE version of Dragon Spirit today. It kicked my ass by level 3. :lol: I'll have to tackle it again after work.
its kicking mine on 3 too
TG16 version
Quote from: guest on 09/12/2011, 04:15 PMQuote from: ddd1234 on 09/12/2011, 02:13 AMyes I have beaten Dragon Spirit, but with the continue code (Obviously).
Ha! And you call yourself a 'real gamer'. [-(
What kind of numb shit easily whips through some of the hardest shooters on the PCE and yet can't handle relatively tame stuff like Dragon Spirit, Dragon Saber, and Forgotten Worlds?
It's a chore to play through these games man. I would die in R-type during the later stages, but still comeback to it for repeated play. It's not that I can't do it. I could probably do it, But the motivation is drained when the game fucks with the player the wrong ways. Does this make any sense???
Quote from: guest on 09/12/2011, 05:44 PMI beat dragon spirit when I was like 8.
:lol:
Quote from: GobanToba on 09/12/2011, 10:17 PMQuote from: guest on 09/12/2011, 05:44 PMI beat dragon spirit when I was like 8.
:lol:
Damn I can't beat that anymore, I wasn't anymore 8 when Dragon Spirit came out.
I don't much like Dragon Saber either. It feels rushed and looks like poo. Then again, I wasn't a fan of the prequel either. Some of its flaws and resulting difficult details are definitely coder-induced. I swear, someone was smoking some happy shit when they were on this production. It's not without its merits but this definitely gets put into the "mundane" list despite its unique theme.
I'm gonna make a shooter where you play as a chicken, and fire eggs as your main weapon and giant piles of turd as your bomb weapon. Of course, since both come out of the back end, the chicken also has to fly backwards the whole game.
Quote from: The Old Rover on 09/13/2011, 10:16 AMIt's not without its merits but this definitely gets put into the "mundane" list despite its unique theme.
Exactly. It's not the best shootie of all time but neither is it the worst.
Quote from: guest on 09/12/2011, 05:44 PMI beat dragon spirit when I was like 8.
i beat the NES version on a rental when i was 9-10. The turbo version was a tough clear.
Pretty much all arcade games have quarter munching cheap spots. Dragon Saber likely wasn't rebalanced for the different sized play area in the HuCard version and may very well be even cheaper at times.
But some of the most celebrated "classic" games (like Ghouls 'n Ghosts and Ninja Gaiden NES) have cheap features and could be considered essentially broken. But people who love them accept them, warts and all and it's overcoming those unfair sections that make that makes them all the more rewarding to beat.
Of course personal preference will make some cheap games not worth the effort and although I haven't played through Dragon Saber, I can totally see how it could be frustrating as I'm not a fan of oversized player sprites.
I am trying to play through Dragon Spirit and so far have concluded that it is a bit unfair due to said sprite size.
I found them both hard, but I like em. :)
... that's what she said.
Quote from: Tatsujin on 09/12/2011, 10:20 PMQuote from: GobanToba on 09/12/2011, 10:17 PMQuote from: Psycho Arkhan on 09/12/2011, 05:44 PMI beat dragon spirit when I was like 8.
:lol:
Damn I can't beat that anymore, I wasn't anymore 8 when Dragon Spirit came out.
hahahaha you're old.
I liked Dragon Strike on NES also.
I played alot of dragon and dinosaur games when I was little, lol
Quote from: guest on 09/14/2011, 06:24 PMQuote from: Tatsujin on 09/12/2011, 10:20 PMQuote from: GobanToba on 09/12/2011, 10:17 PMQuote from: guest on 09/12/2011, 05:44 PMI beat dragon spirit when I was like 8.
:lol:
Damn I can't beat that anymore, I wasn't anymore 8 when Dragon Spirit came out.
hahahaha you're old.
I liked Dragon Strike on NES also.
I played alot of dragon and dinosaur games when I was little, lol
My favorite Dinosaur game growing up was always Joe & Mac on the SNES. It was close to arcade perfect.
Quote from: Mathius on 09/14/2011, 06:53 PMJoe & Mac on the SNES. It was close to arcade perfect.
Rolf, that my dear is a big, BIG LIE :P.
In fact they were completely different games (kinda like Toki on the mega drive compared to the arcade).
They
used recycled some of the arcade elements quite faithful, but beside of that the game was something completely different.
Anyone remember Dino Riders from bitd?
http://youtu.be/PnHuNUNV0BE
Man, I ate that stuff up as a kid! It didn't hurt that my uncle at the time worked for Tyco and gave me a bunch of the toys from that line.
If only I had kept all that stuff... :roll:
Dino Riders were awesome! I wanted the toys as a kid, but they were too pricey. I have a VHS version of episode 1 that my parents bought me way back when. 1987 I think it's dated. Still watch it every so often. :P
Didn't it air during the "Marvel Action Hour" or whatever it was called along with Reboot and Robocop cartoons?
Quote from: Tatsujin on 09/14/2011, 08:04 PMQuote from: Mathius on 09/14/2011, 06:53 PMJoe & Mac on the SNES. It was close to arcade perfect.
Rolf, that my dear is a big, BIG LIE :P.
In fact they were completely different games (kinda like Toki on the mega drive compared to the arcade).
They used recycled some of the arcade elements quite faithful, but beside of that the game was something completely different.
Lol. All I knew was the big T-Rex from the first stage looked like the one from the arcade's first stage T-Rex. That's all I cared about! :)
Quote from: Mathius on 09/14/2011, 10:58 PMLol. All I knew was the big T-Rex from the first stage looked like the one from the arcade's first stage T-Rex. That's all I cared about! :)
Lol, which made it instantly close to arcade perfect.
Do'h some math :P
Quote from: Mishran on 09/14/2011, 10:32 PMDidn't it air during the "Marvel Action Hour" or whatever it was called along with Reboot and Robocop cartoons?
I don't remember Reboot and had forgotten about the Robocop cartoon!
Quote from: Tatsujin on 09/14/2011, 11:15 PMQuote from: Mathius on 09/14/2011, 10:58 PMLol. All I knew was the big T-Rex from the first stage looked like the one from the arcade's first stage T-Rex. That's all I cared about! :)
Lol, which made it instantly close to arcade perfect.
Do'h some math :P
that t-rex makes it 85% arcade perfect.
One of my favorite dinosaur games was fuckin Evo on SNES
even though it had a ton of other crap too. That game was sweet.
Quote from: guest on 09/18/2011, 11:46 PMQuote from: Tatsujin on 09/14/2011, 11:15 PMQuote from: Mathius on 09/14/2011, 10:58 PMLol. All I knew was the big T-Rex from the first stage looked like the one from the arcade's first stage T-Rex. That's all I cared about! :)
Lol, which made it instantly close to arcade perfect.
Do'h some math :P
that t-rex makes it 85% arcade perfect.
One of my favorite dinosaur games was fuckin Evo on SNES
even though it had a ton of other crap too. That game was sweet.
It's imperative that I get Prehistoric Isle for the Neo Geo MVS one day before I depart this world! A game that combines dinosaurs and with a shooter is pure win. :)
Quote from: Mathius on 09/19/2011, 12:05 AMQuote from: guest on 09/18/2011, 11:46 PMQuote from: Tatsujin on 09/14/2011, 11:15 PMQuote from: Mathius on 09/14/2011, 10:58 PMLol. All I knew was the big T-Rex from the first stage looked like the one from the arcade's first stage T-Rex. That's all I cared about! :)
Lol, which made it instantly close to arcade perfect.
Do'h some math :P
that t-rex makes it 85% arcade perfect.
One of my favorite dinosaur games was fuckin Evo on SNES
even though it had a ton of other crap too. That game was sweet.
It's imperative that I get Prehistoric Isle for the Neo Geo MVS one day before I depart this world! A game that combines dinosaurs and with a shooter is pure win. :)
Worth having if you can find a copy of PI2 for the mvs.
Dinosaur+Choplifter=for it's gameplay mechanics.
Its included on the 150 in 1 cart. Might as well buy that one. Works awesome.
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion => Topic started by: ddd1234 on 09/05/2011, 04:57 PM