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Title: Wouldn't it be nice to have Hi-Ten Bomberman on a current console?
Post by: SuperGrafx16 on 03/25/2012, 02:19 AM
Sorry for posting this in this forum, I dunno where else to put it, but, wouldn't it be nice to have Hi-Ten Bomberman on XB360-XBLA, PS3-PSN or Wii U ?

If only Hudson Soft still existed, and I pray that Konami finds the wisdom to port it over to HD platforms. 

Imagine playing this: http://youtu.be/2KVoPogwVts  in 1080p, higher resolution than the original Caravan version,
and with better 10-player visuals than the Saturn's 10-player mode.

I know I'm dreamin', but it's fun to dream, isn't it?
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have Hi-Ten Bomberman on a current console?
Post by: SignOfZeta on 03/25/2012, 02:22 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if this happened eventually, but it wouldn't be a port. It would be some polygonal BS instead.
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have Hi-Ten Bomberman on a current console?
Post by: SuperGrafx16 on 03/25/2012, 02:53 AM
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 03/25/2012, 02:22 AMI wouldn't be surprised if this happened eventually, but it wouldn't be a port. It would be some polygonal BS instead.
Nooooooo, I want the original sprite-based graphics of Hi-Ten.  We've already had Bomberman Live on XBLA (I think), so it's time for a traditional Bomberman with SPRITES.    It ain't gonna happen though.
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have Hi-Ten Bomberman on a current console?
Post by: SuperDeadite on 03/25/2012, 03:00 AM
Take Saturn Bomberman, connect to XRGB, done.
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have Hi-Ten Bomberman on a current console?
Post by: SignOfZeta on 03/25/2012, 03:15 AM
Quote from: SuperDeadite on 03/25/2012, 03:00 AMTake Saturn Bomberman, connect to XRGB, done.
Not really, but better than anything they're going to put out in the future.
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have Hi-Ten Bomberman on a current console?
Post by: SuperGrafx16 on 03/25/2012, 03:17 AM
Quote from: SuperDeadite on 03/25/2012, 03:00 AMTake Saturn Bomberman, connect to XRGB, done.
But Hi-Ten looked so much more appealing than Saturn Bomberman

Saturn
(https://web.archive.org/web/20030315030551im_/http://wso.williams.edu/~aeatonsa/bomb/images/battle/wide5.jpg)


Hi-Ten
(https://web.archive.org/web/20181124002810im_/http://classicgaming.com.br/)
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have Hi-Ten Bomberman on a current console?
Post by: Tatsujin on 03/25/2012, 04:20 AM
Saturn looks like a 4bit game compared.
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have Hi-Ten Bomberman on a current console?
Post by: SuperGrafx16 on 03/25/2012, 04:54 AM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 03/25/2012, 04:20 AMSaturn looks like a 4bit game compared.
I know, that's what I've been trying to show.
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have Hi-Ten Bomberman on a current console?
Post by: SignOfZeta on 03/25/2012, 05:16 AM
Was Hi-Ten in HiVision/MUSE format or...what? Hard info seems difficult to come by.

Bomberman SS doesn't even come close to using the maximum res of NTSC. Presumably Hi-Ten exceeds NTSC, which would not only make it possible to see your character, but maybe even tell what the power ups are. :)
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have Hi-Ten Bomberman on a current console?
Post by: SuperGrafx16 on 03/25/2012, 05:39 AM
According to Assembler, Hi-Ten was 1035i / MUSE/ Hi-Vision resolution.


http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?32995-Hi-Ten-Bomberman&p=495870&viewfull=1#post495870
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have Hi-Ten Bomberman on a current console?
Post by: esteban on 03/25/2012, 07:09 AM
Another reason to have Hi-Ten would be for the unique playable characters, right? :pcgs:
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have Hi-Ten Bomberman on a current console?
Post by: SuperGrafx16 on 03/25/2012, 10:24 AM
Absolutely.
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have Hi-Ten Bomberman on a current console?
Post by: RegalSin on 03/25/2012, 01:17 PM
Nope. The Dreamcast has Bomberman online ( which was around for a very long time ). Hi-ten Bomberman required extra hardware as well.

The new consoles with the new players takes all the fun out of playing them.
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have Hi-Ten Bomberman on a current console?
Post by: SuperGrafx16 on 03/25/2012, 02:26 PM
Yet from everything I've read and seen, Hi-Ten Bomberman was the best version of the game ever made.  Certainly current-gen HD consoles could handle it fine, and it would be fun as hell, IMHO.
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have Hi-Ten Bomberman on a current console?
Post by: TheClash603 on 03/25/2012, 03:12 PM
Wow, that is awesome!  I didn't even know that game existed.

Was that game made exclusively for an event, or was it in Japanese arcades?

I wonder where the hardware to run that game is sitting at now.
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have Hi-Ten Bomberman on a current console?
Post by: SuperGrafx16 on 03/25/2012, 03:17 PM
Quote from: TheClash603 on 03/25/2012, 03:12 PMWow, that is awesome!  I didn't even know that game existed.

Was that game made exclusively for an event, or was it in Japanese arcades?

I wonder where the hardware to run that game is sitting at now.
It was played only at Hudson's summer Caravan events in Japan. It never came out to arcades. It used some custom NEC PC hardware, some fancy HD equipment and a Plasma screen costing around $80,000.  The whole setup cost over a million dollars. Outrageous huh?

There are threads all over the place just Google Hi-Ten Bomberman.
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have Hi-Ten Bomberman on a current console?
Post by: RegalSin on 03/25/2012, 04:45 PM
only for sake of Hudson Soft, and they rename the game entirely. As a rule of porting you have to rename a videogame. Calling it "Hi-Ten" Bomberman is depressing knowning it is not a Hudson system at all.
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have Hi-Ten Bomberman on a current console?
Post by: SuperGrafx16 on 03/25/2012, 05:47 PM
How about simply "Bomberman HD" ?
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have Hi-Ten Bomberman on a current console?
Post by: SignOfZeta on 03/25/2012, 10:18 PM
Quote from: SuperGrafx16 on 03/25/2012, 02:26 PMYet from everything I've read and seen, Hi-Ten Bomberman was the best version of the game ever made.  Certainly current-gen HD consoles could handle it fine, and it would be fun as hell, IMHO.
Have you ever read anything by anyone who actually played it, or even saw it in person?

I'm sure its great, but I'm also pretty sure that Bomberman '94 and Bomberman SS would still be more fun.

As for where/what it was, I'm pretty sure it was only seen at Caravan events. It probably only had versus mode and probbaly even only one screen.

Basically, from what I've seen, it basically looks like the "Wide" map from Bomberman SS only high enough res to actually see WTF is going on. IMO the Wide map in SS is only fun for a while anyway. The best time is in the 8 player matches on smaller maps.
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have Hi-Ten Bomberman on a current console?
Post by: SuperGrafx16 on 03/26/2012, 12:12 AM
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 03/25/2012, 10:18 PM
Quote from: SuperGrafx16 on 03/25/2012, 02:26 PMYet from everything I've read and seen, Hi-Ten Bomberman was the best version of the game ever made.  Certainly current-gen HD consoles could handle it fine, and it would be fun as hell, IMHO.
Have you ever read anything by anyone who actually played it, or even saw it in person?

I'm sure its great, but I'm also pretty sure that Bomberman '94 and Bomberman SS would still be more fun.

As for where/what it was, I'm pretty sure it was only seen at Caravan events. It probably only had versus mode and probbaly even only one screen.

Basically, from what I've seen, it basically looks like the "Wide" map from Bomberman SS only high enough res to actually see WTF is going on. IMO the Wide map in SS is only fun for a while anyway. The best time is in the 8 player matches on smaller maps.
Yes I have, I saw this on GAF:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2242730&postcount=4


QuoteOriginally Posted by SkinSider:
I played Hi-ten Bomberman (it was running on a PC) at Hudson HQ in Sapporo about ten years ago. It was fucking amazing. There were like, separate mini-battles going on between groups of two or three players. It was chaos and terror all the way.
There were definitely lots of stages. The game had been properly tested and bug checked. It was very polished, lots of power ups and a couple of things that were (at that time) new to the series.

It would be PERFECT for play on 360 Live Arcade.

I am emailing someone about it right now.


And to reiterate, it was running on a PC, which means somewhere, someone has it. The motherlode.
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have Hi-Ten Bomberman on a current console?
Post by: Nazi NecroPhile on 03/26/2012, 06:39 PM
I have a hard enough time rounding up four other peeps to play Bomberman '93/'94.  :?
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have Hi-Ten Bomberman on a current console?
Post by: SuperGrafx16 on 03/26/2012, 07:16 PM
Yet Hi-Ten looked so fucking amazing, I want it more than any other Hudson game ever made  :mrgreen:


(read the above quote from someone who actually played it!)
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have Hi-Ten Bomberman on a current console?
Post by: soop on 03/28/2012, 11:18 AM
Quote from: guest on 03/26/2012, 06:39 PMI have a hard enough time rounding up four other peeps to play Bomberman '93/'94.  :?
That's why I carry around 4 GBA's and a copy of Bomberman tournament.  You never know when you're gonna need a game of 4-player bomberman.
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have Hi-Ten Bomberman on a current console?
Post by: SuperGrafx16 on 03/29/2012, 04:37 PM
We should start an email campaign to Konami, BEGGING for Hi-Ten's resurrection and release, under whatever name they choose.

Damnit.
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have Hi-Ten Bomberman on a current console?
Post by: RegalSin on 03/29/2012, 05:05 PM
I think we should start a burn all Konomi videogames not featuring staff of  Hudson Soft. Then we should do it until Konomi, brings back Hudson Soft. Then Hudson Soft releases Hi-ten bomberman.

Then do it in public places ( of course we ask for permission to burn Konomi stuff on Camera at stores, super markets, and city hall ). Even put up signs that say "shows hudson soft big" and Konomi with a big
no smoking type sign.
Title: Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have Hi-Ten Bomberman on a current console?
Post by: SuperGrafx16 on 03/30/2012, 12:24 PM
Quote from: RegalSin on 03/29/2012, 05:05 PMI think we should start a burn all Konomi videogames not featuring staff of  Hudson Soft. Then we should do it until Konomi, brings back Hudson Soft. Then Hudson Soft releases Hi-ten bomberman.

Then do it in public places ( of course we ask for permission to burn Konomi stuff on Camera at stores, super markets, and city hall ). Even put up signs that say "shows hudson soft big" and Konomi with a big
no smoking type sign.

Hell yeah!