http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ouya/ouya-a-new-kind-of-video-game-console
interesting, can't wait too see the .emu's :-"
crap
Quote from: Tatsujin on 07/10/2012, 09:47 AMcrap
They want a MILLION dollars to produce something that will be around the same price as a second hand Xbox 360, and that does about the same thing, but doesn't have any games yet. Oh where did I put my wallet?
*edit* if this succeeds, we should start a kickstarter to buy Hudson back from Konami.
A console for Angry Birds? Genius!
Well, it's an android- so doesn't it technically already have whatever games are made for that?
And also, it's at $500,000? wtf?
I'm going to pledge the highest amount and then a day before it ends, cancel the pledge.
Quote from: soop on 07/10/2012, 10:28 AMQuote from: Tatsujin on 07/10/2012, 09:47 AMcrap
They want a MILLION dollars to produce something that will be around the same price as a second hand Xbox 360, and that does about the same thing, but doesn't have any games yet. Oh where did I put my wallet?
*edit* if this succeeds, we should start a kickstarter to buy Hudson back from Konami.
You do realize, right, that the 360 cost several BILLION dollars (ie: several thousand times as much) to produce, right?
Quote from: JoshTurboTrollX-16 on 07/10/2012, 02:29 PMWell, it's an android- so doesn't it technically already have whatever games are made for that?
And also, it's at $500,000? wtf?
That's what I was thinking.
Still, plenty of phones out there with hdmi out and bluetooth compatibility. Maybe they were stoned when they thought it up....I dunno.
Quote from: PikachuWarrior on 07/10/2012, 02:37 PMI'm going to pledge the highest amount and then a day before it ends, cancel the pledge.
Don't forget to follow up that class act up with some auto-erotic asphyxiation.
(https://mail.littlebeegraphics.com/gifs/whatfuckingever.gif)
I have always wanted to play touch screen games on my HDTV, Brilliant!!!!!
so a bit more indepth on the bidness plan
http://kotaku.com/5924657/an-all+star-plan-to-build-a-new-99-hackable-video-game-console-requires-950000-of-your-money
I think that it's interesting that it's totally hackable, that could lead to maybe some PCE stuff on it eventually. That might be cool, my Turbo CD has been having problems. Hmm, maybe someone could even come up with a hucard port for it? Also, unfortunately, I get the feeling that someday, phones will have games that are good, & can't be had anywhere else. There's a market for it, I just don't want to play games on phones. If everything resorts to that crap, atleast we may have a console to play these games on. Heck, maybe we'll finally get new Falcom games playable on a console, rather then just on a portable. :-k
Could be cool
Yep, this could be cool if it materializes
This actually has me excited even though it has Android attached to it. If the they give me games that are controller-only (no motion controls, no touch screen) I may bite.
Wow, over 1mil already
This looks interesting.
I would make a virtual-on/bulk slash/vanquish like game using the unreal mobile engine.
I wonder if the faggots from the cover of Bomberman will finally get their own game on this system?
Quote from: TheClash603 on 07/10/2012, 10:42 PMI wonder if the faggots from the cover of Bomberman will finally get their own game on this system?
lol!
Quote from: TheClash603 on 07/10/2012, 10:42 PMI wonder if the faggots from the cover of Bomberman will finally get their own game on this system?
HA!!
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 07/10/2012, 02:47 PMQuote from: soop on 07/10/2012, 10:28 AMQuote from: Tatsujin on 07/10/2012, 09:47 AMcrap
They want a MILLION dollars to produce something that will be around the same price as a second hand Xbox 360, and that does about the same thing, but doesn't have any games yet. Oh where did I put my wallet?
*edit* if this succeeds, we should start a kickstarter to buy Hudson back from Konami.
You do realize, right, that the 360 cost several BILLION dollars (ie: several thousand times as much) to produce, right?
Of course. But why would you spend a million on something which is very similar to something that already exists and owns a huge market share?
It's like hey guys!! I got an idea for a shiney disc film player! I call it red ray, and you can down load film trailers for free OMG @___@ !!!1111 It's like Blu Ray except you can make your own films!!!!
I want to see the research & figures, not bunch of empty promises - The STP, NPV, etc.
Without it, I doubt it's going to attract anyone serious.
right there. who's gonna raise up a lot of monies for something which in the end may only raise a stink?
Quote from: Tatsujin on 07/11/2012, 08:07 AMright there. who's gonna raise up a lot of monies for something which in the end may only raise a stink?
20,968 BACKERS <--- apparently that many
$2,637,075 PLEDGED OF $950,000 GOAL
28 DAYS TO GO
Well, seeing as it has an actual gamepad which seems sort of not horrible, I'm weirdly okay with this. The thing I dislike the most with these newfangled smartphone/tablet-games is the lack of a proper, dedicated controller or similar. This has that, thus this surely will be a better experience. Not best experience, but better.
If it also can do multimedia things on my TV then that would be cool too.
as long it will have USB and some smart drivers can be installed, you will be able to use any pad you like.
It has potential. Take any android tablet though with hdmi out, plug in a usb gamepad, and do you not already have one of these?
Quote from: HercTNT on 07/11/2012, 09:44 AMIt has potential. Take any android tablet though with hdmi out, plug in a usb gamepad, and do you not already have one of these?
The main difference is that the company is ready to give out an SDK with the machine from the day one, it's rooted in some cases, gotta check the pledge program again.
Technically one could invest 600 bucks and be ready to develop games for it. At least that's the main thing I can tell right now.
Isn't the XNA framework free? I mean not to actually produce the games, but to code them?
Quote from: soop on 07/11/2012, 10:09 AMIsn't the XNA framework free? I mean not to actually produce the games, but to code them?
Yes. The difference is that you are bound to XNA if you're an indie; that means you're stuck with C#, the 2GB limitation, and unable to produce physical media. You are also limited in the amount of money you can charge for your game. With this, you're still essentially stuck with the Android SDK, which means java-like developing (which is close to C# anyway), but all the other restrictions are thrown away.
The main difference, for me, is going to be the machine's capabilities. If this can't compete, on a physical level, with the 360, there won't be any reason to jump ship. The 360 can do more than what I need, and I can certainly keep most productions under 2GB in size.
Quote from: OldRover on 07/11/2012, 10:45 AMThe main difference, for me, is going to be the machine's capabilities. If this can't compete, on a physical level, with the 360, there won't be any reason to jump ship.
Specs wise you mean?
It looks decent:
Tegra3 quad-core processor
1GB RAM
8GB of internal flash storage
HDMI connection to the TV, with support for up to 1080p HD
WiFi 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth LE 4.0
USB 2.0 (one)
Wireless controller with standard controls (two analog sticks, d-pad, eight action buttons, a system button), a touchpad
Android 4.0
and the Tegra chip is supposed to be able to do this?
http://youtu.be/lBl-goBrWno&feature=relmfu
Quote from: Nando on 07/11/2012, 09:13 AMQuote from: Tatsujin on 07/11/2012, 08:07 AMright there. who's gonna raise up a lot of monies for something which in the end may only raise a stink?
20,968 BACKERS <--- apparently that many
$2,637,075 PLEDGED OF $950,000 GOAL
28 DAYS TO GO
Right, $2.6M sounds like peanuts to me to so far... Hell multiply that figure by 100, and it still doesn't sound like that much TBH... But I still wouldn't know yet whether that's enough to make this venture a success... BECAUSE THERE ARE NO NUMBERS!
Quote from: kotaku...Venture capitalists, Uhrman said, "are still scared away from hardware."
Yeah, no venture capatalist in their right mind would put up healthy amount of cash with just fluff which is what's posted there. How sizable is the total market? What are the different market segments? Who are they targeting from this segment (need more much specifics than "console player")? How much market share do they expect to achieve? What's their action plan for that? What are the the expected revenues? Expected expenses? Why do they need ~$1M to start-up, and how did they come up with that figure? And on and on and on... and
NONE of this is answered.
Look, don't get me wrong. I'd love to eat my words. An open-source console platform sounds pretty rad, but I'm nowhere near convinced that this will be a success - hell, truth be told, it almost sounds more like a scam!
It kind of does.
More to the point though, once all that is answered, who is down to develop for it. It's one thing to say that one could code games, but you don't want to get into a chicken/egg situation where nobody's buying it because there's no games, and no-one is developing for it because no-one is buying it.
I mean look at the GP32. Pretty much anologous, right? Open sourced hardware that could run emulators and existing software. Don't know the numbers, but I think it was pretty niche.
Don't forget that in Gamepark's case, the original product was essentially squashed by Nintendo. Even after they fragmented, both sides still couldn't produce enough interest due to Nintendo's previous interference. This time, it's an upstart against all three... if all three bare fangs, it's gonna be bloody obvious that they all have something to lose.
Quite honestly, I hate wireless controllers. My 360 has wired controllers on purpose. Is this thing HDMI-only? That'd be dumb... not everyone has an HDMI-capable set yet... we're lucky we have one here (it was free). Aside from those details, I could see myself coding something for this... if it actually comes out. I was kinda psyched for OpenPandora, but that thing's been a trainwreck over the years and I lost all interest in it.
It's basically a fancy tablet in a box with a controller.
Fancy casing and stuff.
Sucks the dev thing is sold out, and cost 700$ in the first place.
If I am going to do Android, I can do it for less than 700$.
I anticipate an armada of touchypoke flashlike games that I sit and play on my laptop while I'm crapping, or games that offer about as much depth as a kiddie pool.
There will be a handful of cool games, I am sure.
but I bet they show up elsewhere too... so this thing seems like an idea thats about 20 years too late.
Not 20 years, more like 5 years too late. snap
Quote from: PikachuWarrior on 07/11/2012, 03:04 PMNot 20 years, more like 5 years too late. snap
If they had a device like this at a time where there were no other viable options for independent game making aside from PCs, it would have killed.
20 may be a bit of a stretch, but its sure more than 5.
Quote from: guest on 07/11/2012, 12:38 PMThere will be a handful of cool games, I am sure.
but I bet they show up elsewhere too...
Well I thought that was the point. You can get the box and start playing right away, cause any dev could take their current android game and "port it" and one would also be able to do console specific stuff for the WOW factor.
I would imagine they would have to have a couple of heavy hitters games/developers in their pockets with release games in order to make a dent.
Oh I know what their plan is. Get everybody riled up, on the internet, and then get inspired to build the perfect console.
Quote from: RegalSin on 07/11/2012, 08:32 PM...and then get inspired to build the perfect console.
start pce manufacturing again? Brilliant!
If someone can build a PCE cart port, & add a CD Rom via USB(though, preferably it'd be nice to have them as part of the console, rather then connected), maybe have SGX support, & possibly have the Arcade Card built in, not to mention being able to use original PCE pads, that would rock! We could call it The Obey! :D I wonder if it'd have to run on emulation, perhaps some variation of Mednafen for accuracy. If the total price for all that is low enough, that might be worth it, as an alternative to people who can't afford a TG & the CD, or a Duo, etc. Plus, it'd be nice to play all my games on it, to keep my Turbo's from getting the wear n' tear.
Quote from: ParanoiaDragon on 07/13/2012, 09:16 PMIf someone can build a PCE cart port, & add a CD Rom via USB(though, preferably it'd be nice to have them as part of the console, rather then connected), maybe have SGX support, & possibly have the Arcade Card built in, not to mention being able to use original PCE pads, that would rock! We could call it The Obey! :D I wonder if it'd have to run on emulation, perhaps some variation of Mednafen for accuracy. If the total price for all that is low enough, that might be worth it, as an alternative to people who can't afford a TG & the CD, or a Duo, etc. Plus, it'd be nice to play all my games on it, to keep my Turbo's from getting the wear n' tear.
Again, we need a PCE on a chip!
Quote from: ParanoiaDragon on 07/13/2012, 09:16 PMIf someone can build a PCE cart port, & add a CD Rom via USB(though, preferably it'd be nice to have them as part of the console, rather then connected), maybe have SGX support, & possibly have the Arcade Card built in, not to mention being able to use original PCE pads, that would rock! We could call it The Obey! :D I wonder if it'd have to run on emulation, perhaps some variation of Mednafen for accuracy. If the total price for all that is low enough, that might be worth it, as an alternative to people who can't afford a TG & the CD, or a Duo, etc. Plus, it'd be nice to play all my games on it, to keep my Turbo's from getting the wear n' tear.
That would be pretty tight.
I like what is being done with PCE.emu by Robert Boglia. It's what I've been running on my phone for over a year now. Has all the features already built it. Worth every penny.
http://www.explusalpha.com/home/pce-emu
This looks..... eh. Pretty much like the OnLive, and as far as I know, that didn't do too well. I was talking with a friend and reading up on it and there was a good point: this console is doing the moonwalk. Seeming to go forward, but actually going back. :lol:
the controller looked promising
DAYUM!
38,423
BACKERS
$4,903,704
PLEDGED OF $950,000 GOAL
23
DAYS TO GO
Watch them deliver a subpar product and wipe their asses with the profits as they fall off the grid, pockets full of $$, and blow.
Quote from: guest on 07/16/2012, 02:11 PMWatch them deliver a subpar product and wipe their asses with the profits as they fall off the grid, pockets full of $$, and blow.
This is actually going to happen. Unless, miraculously, it gets to the point where it snowballs. But 38,000 people is nowhere near enough consumers to back a world class product. IMO.
I reckon you'd need more like a userbase of a million. Is it worth developing (free) games for an installed userbase of 40,000 people? Even if it's a port, you'd have to be awfully confident to spend time and money developing a game which 40,000 people *might* give you micropayments for.
Quote from: soop on 07/17/2012, 10:06 AMQuote from: guest on 07/16/2012, 02:11 PMWatch them deliver a subpar product and wipe their asses with the profits as they fall off the grid, pockets full of $$, and blow.
This is actually going to happen. Unless, miraculously, it gets to the point where it snowballs. But 38,000 people is nowhere near enough consumers to back a world class product. IMO.
I reckon you'd need more like a userbase of a million. Is it worth developing (free) games for an installed userbase of 40,000 people? Even if it's a port, you'd have to be awfully confident to spend time and money developing a game which 40,000 people *might* give you micropayments for.
True dat, smart dev's would make an android game and maybe add Ouya controller support or something.
Scary that the same folks doing this were the one's doing the Phatom....yeah..
Quote from: soop on 07/17/2012, 10:06 AMIs it worth developing (free) games for an installed userbase of 40,000 people?
We make games here for a userbase of under 1000... and remember, the Ouya isn't about making free games, it's about making games that contain some kind of free play. You're still able to charge whatever you want for the full product.
Yeah, but the difference between doing it here in TurbobLand and RealWorldLand is, we aren't expecting to be wiping our asses with 100$ bills after we release games on the Turboboner
Quote from: guest on 07/17/2012, 11:33 AMYeah, but the difference between doing it here in TurbobLand and RealWorldLand is, we aren't expecting to be wiping our asses with 100$ bills after we release games on the Turboboner
Exactly. We're talking about full scale products with teams of employees who expect to be able to eat at the end of the month, purely on what they do.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/17/interview-ouya-ceo-julie-uhrman/
In other news, they haven't actually finished designing it yet. I'm willing to bet they allow mission-creep to dictate the hardware.
and I bet Microsoft bought up most of those developer kits too :D Probably the easiest way to shoot them in the kneecap!
Hope it don't fall on its face.
Wouldn't it be funny as fuck if they turn out to be tablets inside, with the output routed out the back of the case, and a bluetooth controller?
That would be the biggest, funniest scam ever.
I don't like the idea it's just only android market games and it probably has a weak gpu. BUT it will make a great emulator and it's open for homebrewers.
The Tegra3 is supposed to have decent graphics capabilities.
if it can bring clasic style gaming to HD compatability it would make a great retro console
Quote from: The Old Rover on 07/17/2012, 02:31 PMThe Tegra3 is supposed to have decent graphics capabilities.
It's decent for a phone, but I can't see it looking good scaled up to more than double the resolution. Aren't most PS3 and 360 games only 720p? If they can't handle 1080p, there's not much chance the comparatively weaksauce Tegra3 is going to look great in HD.
Yeah, graphics are not as good as ps3/360 as a dedicated home console. The graphics are good for a cell phone though.
I think the idea, is to have all of your cell phone games running on one console, instead of searching for cell phone emulators.
Like for example, Rockman Dash and Resident Evil CGI had Cell phone games in fully 3d. I would love to play those games on my Gamecube right now, but instead they are making a console to run something I could get run on a computer?
Meanwhile........Regalsin spends hundreds of dollars on Computer that is less then 14mhz.
It depends if developers are willing to add support for game controllers and that specific console. I doubt games will be able to be adapted to work flawlessly right away.
The Tegra3 is already 1080p by default, or so it says on Nvidia's website. Many games use 720p because they would otherwise have to be scaled down for 720p or 480p, which might not give such good results... it's better to scale up than down. Also, fewer display lines means less work for the GPU.
Well, considering the vast amount of interest in this console from backers, I'm seriously considering it now... I may even back it myself with a substantial donation.
I'm just going to watch idle, and see if the product actually comes to fruition in the spring of 2013. If it does, and it looks promising, I may pick it up at that time.
Don't forget, phone screen resolutions can be higher than TVs. The iPhone 4 is much higher res than any HD TV. Not that it's android mind.
I haven't read all the posts, and maybe somebody mentioned it already, but isnt Apple half way there with the Apple TV? Couldn't they just essentially create a controller and be done with it? It already plugs into iTunes and iTunes already has games, I'm surprised this hasn't happened already. I'm no apple fanboy by any means, but I like my AppleTV quite a bit for what it does.
Quote from: galam on 07/18/2012, 06:05 AMI haven't read all the posts, and maybe somebody mentioned it already, but isnt Apple half way there with the Apple TV? Couldn't they just essentially create a controller and be done with it? It already plugs into iTunes and iTunes already has games, I'm surprised this hasn't happened already. I'm no apple fanboy by any means, but I like my AppleTV quite a bit for what it does.
That's actually a really good point.. Didn't I see some kind of article mentioning something like this somewhere?
That alone would kill ouya. *edit*, well, maybe not, but it would dent them.
Quote from: soop on 07/18/2012, 07:58 AMQuote from: galam on 07/18/2012, 06:05 AMI haven't read all the posts, and maybe somebody mentioned it already, but isnt Apple half way there with the Apple TV? Couldn't they just essentially create a controller and be done with it? It already plugs into iTunes and iTunes already has games, I'm surprised this hasn't happened already. I'm no apple fanboy by any means, but I like my AppleTV quite a bit for what it does.
That's actually a really good point.. Didn't I see some kind of article mentioning something like this somewhere?
That alone would kill ouya. *edit*, well, maybe not, but it would dent them.
Right, there is already a well established platform and distribution ecosystem. Sounds like ouya is trying to build this from the ground up. Essentially, this is just an Android version of what apple is already positioned to do. The kickstarter pledges all seem to reserve a username for the platform (iTunes is already there), create an affordable channel to buy games (iTunes), no media (iTunes), probably no netflix (iTunes has it). It just doesn't make much sense to put another box in the market. Maybe they should have partnered with Roku and just build the middleware to access the Android Play market...and build a controller. It just seems this is late to the game, even though Apple has not pulled the trigger yet on making the games available. Apple could even take it a step further since the products already contain AirPlay which pushes apple content to a TV if you have the AppleTV box. Fire up a game on the iPad or iPhone, push it to TV using AirPlay and you're good to go. Again, the controller is the missing piece. Actually, don't some bluetooth pads/joysticks already work?
Not to sidetrack the post, but I have been having a hell of a time getting a wiimote to synch with my Samsung Glide to work with PCE.emu.
About the only games I can play are boxyboy and military madness with the onscreen controls because they don't take quick reflexes which always makes me miss the buttons. I hate onscreen controls no matter how they are implemented.
Quote from: galam on 07/18/2012, 09:04 AMNot to sidetrack the post, but I have been having a hell of a time getting a wiimote to synch with my Samsung Glide to work with PCE.emu.
If you have Root access and a PS3, the six axis pairing tool works really well. I have a Samsung Conquer.
Quote from: Nando on 07/18/2012, 09:11 AMQuote from: galam on 07/18/2012, 09:04 AMNot to sidetrack the post, but I have been having a hell of a time getting a wiimote to synch with my Samsung Glide to work with PCE.emu.
If you have Root access and a PS3, the six axis pairing tool works really well. I have a Samsung Conquer.
I am borderline retarded with this stuff and I'm not afraid to admit it. I have no idea what you are talking about, but I'm sure you do.
I have learned more from this forum in a couple of months than google has taught me in 5 years. I stayed home from work for a week because I was so proud of myself to get the homebrew channel to work on my Wii. Played all NES and Turbo ROM's during that time, then realized emulation kind of sucks, so I have been buying a lot more originals. Only good thing about emulation, is it certainly steered me away from some games that I'm glad I didn't waste money on. Once I got it working, I bought a second wii because I didn't want any system updates to wipe it out. That one now sits in my gameroom with no internet connection and I won't play any new games on it.
Quote from: galam on 07/18/2012, 09:22 AMOnly good thing about emulation, is it certainly steered me away from some games that I'm glad I didn't waste money on.
Pretty much what I do as well.
Anyway, here ya go: http://www.dancingpixelstudios.com/sixaxiscontroller/about.html should have everything you need to get you started. Samsung bluetooth protocol is a joke and they never kept up with the google pledge, in any event make sure you use the free test tool to check your compatibility.
If you can't get it to work, you can root it, just gotta make sure you disable the auto updates on your phone or you'll run into the Wii issues you mentioned.
Here's some info on that
http://www.androidauthority.com/captivate-glide-sgh-i927-root-50803/
I hate to be the eternal pessimist, but the Ouya reeks of wishful thinking.
Designing the hardware itself is simply the beginning of the challenges... I have little confidence in the experience and talents of the Ouya Team to pull this off. Heck, it would be difficult for one of the heavy hitters to pull this off (from scratch).
Quote from: esteban on 07/19/2012, 12:10 PMI hate to be the eternal pessimist, but the Ouya reeks of wishful thinking.
Designing the hardware itself is simply the beginning of the challenges... I have little confidence in the experience and talents of the Ouya Team to pull this off. Heck, it would be difficult for one of the heavy hitters to pull this off (from scratch).
"I know, let's crowdsource everything!"
http://youtu.be/lBl-goBrWno
Tegra3 promo video. Nothing mind blowing, but a little more involved than Angry Birds.
I have $99 dollars here somewhere ..... let me at it ;-) LOL
Quote from: The Old Rover on 07/17/2012, 08:25 PMWell, considering the vast amount of interest in this console from backers, I'm seriously considering it now... I may even back it myself with a substantial donation.
why donate? it's already funded, and the developer tier is sold out.
Would be a waste. They don't need anymore money.
Cell phone emulator + TV out = this game console
Quote from: guest on 07/23/2012, 12:51 PMwhy donate? it's already funded, and the developer tier is sold out.
It wasn't when I actually posted that. :P
You sure about that?
The developer tier was sold out when I posted about it on Monday the 16th on a different forum, and that was in the AM, so I'd venture to guess it was sold out a day or so prior...
Quote from: RegalSin on 07/23/2012, 07:00 PMCell phone emulator + TV out = this game console
I was thinking the same thing. A lot of phones/tablets will have the same or slightly better quad cpus by the time this gets released (if it meets the release date). People just want to root for the unique, different device out there and hopefully it creates a stir in the gaming community.
Quote from: PikachuWarrior on 07/24/2012, 05:04 AMI was thinking the same thing. A lot of phones/tablets will have the same or slightly better quad cpus by the time this gets released (if it meets the release date). People just want to root for the unique, different device out there and hopefully it creates a stir in the gaming community.
Its because there is this steady wave of fuckin' "revolutionists" that think its cool to "overthrow" Microsoft and Sony...
.....by slapping a tablet in a box and calling it new.
Hmm, some sort of "optimized" version of Final Fantasy 3 is apparently launching with the Ouya, I wonder what the future holds for Square & the Ouyo. Give me a new(& decent) Mana, & another Chrono game please!
http://www.gamespot.com/news/ouya-launching-with-final-fantasy-iii-6389396
Quote from: ParanoiaDragon on 08/01/2012, 01:27 AMHmm, some sort of "optimized" version of Final Fantasy 3 is apparently launching with the Ouya, I wonder what the future holds for Square & the Ouyo. Give me a new(& decent) Mana, & another Chrono game please!
http://www.gamespot.com/news/ouya-launching-with-final-fantasy-iii-6389396
The onlive and Square/Enix support is a good business bit going for them. I'm surprised EA hasn't announced anything, then again, I haven't really been looking.
Quote from: Nando on 08/01/2012, 09:49 AMQuote from: ParanoiaDragon on 08/01/2012, 01:27 AMHmm, some sort of "optimized" version of Final Fantasy 3 is apparently launching with the Ouya, I wonder what the future holds for Square & the Ouyo. Give me a new(& decent) Mana, & another Chrono game please!
http://www.gamespot.com/news/ouya-launching-with-final-fantasy-iii-6389396
The onlive and Square/Enix support is a good business bit going for them. I'm surprised EA hasn't announced anything, then again, I haven't really been looking.
EA probably saw the words "Free games" and nailed that coffin shut.
Quote from: ParanoiaDragon on 08/01/2012, 01:27 AMHmm, some sort of "optimized" version of Final Fantasy 3 is apparently launching with the Ouya, I wonder what the future holds for Square & the Ouyo. Give me a new(& decent) Mana, & another Chrono game please!
http://www.gamespot.com/news/ouya-launching-with-final-fantasy-iii-6389396
sweet.
more games I already played.
I actually backed this with a $99 pledge ($119 since im in Europe). Since im not interested in phones, adapters and that stuff this would be a good sollution for me to play Android-based games. Plus i like the concept a lot, the free to hack aproach etc.. Its more than you can say for the big three. They pretty much will shut down second hand games for good with the next generation consoles. Not to mention locking each game to just one account. Ive got ps ps2 and ps3, but there prolly wont be a ps4 for me.
If I was a blind man, and I can't feel something I brought, then their is no point in buying it. Whatever I buy better have a case, or body itself, or some container. Buying downloads is the most stupidest joke, ever concieved.
For them to charge $5.00 for something, is like back in the 1980's when people stopped buying suits and wearing tee-shirts because of local advertisment on the
red-carpet. Then suits prices, sky rocketed. Suits was a normal thing men wore, but
not after the 1980's. With media, when you buy something it must have a body.
It is not the same as going to the teathers, with a big screen, and popcorn. It is
like buying nothing out of thin air.
Wake up cheapo, your being jacked.
QuoteThe onlive and Square/Enix support is a good business bit going for them. I'm surprised EA hasn't announced anything, then again, I haven't really been looking.
Square just does want to print anymore CD's. They do not care anymore, it is just about keeping the fire lite. I 100% do not understand how people play these devices. Just like Naughty Dog's Crash Bandicoot original is on the ipad, many other
PORTSWill also be on board. Lets be realistic, Crash is a PSX generation 1 game, it was out with Bug, and Spyro alongside it. Here comes a bunch of releases being brought to people who would never thought to buy a game system or remember what one is.
Next fact
Young people do not have any moneyThey get money from their parents, and the only way for them to order new content, is by having a gift card ( which usually have leftover money, afterwards.
No more second hand gaming, means no more collecting, no more valueWhy is this the most important thing for us to understand,
BECAUSE WHEN A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE DIE IN A PLANE CRASH, WHO WILL CLAIM THEIR ACCOUNTS?It is like when my family member, died they had an $800 three bedroom apartment with long kitchen. Not one of the family members took it over, they just gave the damn thing back to the landlord. The place is probably in the $1500-2500 range right now.
However this is worst, now nobody will give a damn, whatsoever. It is like PSO, items,
or DAD items. You just brought something that was presented to you inside of program. It does not exsist whatsoever.
The same with UV. UV is non-exsistant.
EXAMPLEI have tons of comic books, and one of them came from a WWII, who was stationed in Japan. Think about it, a person from a war buying a comic book to read, vs a person in a war who brought a comic book on their Iphone. It has no value, at all. It is just for a limited amount of time.
Remember the term "
Don't copy that floppy" this is that same exact term all over, again, but they figure people are too stupid, to just download the game on to a computer and transfer it to another device. With programs being networked, like Alcohol 120% for example, it can report a bad version, and then blacklist you, like
with X-box users.
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Quote from: RegalSin on 08/01/2012, 06:18 PM
No more second hand gaming, means no more collecting, no more value
Why is this the most important thing for us to understand,
BECAUSE WHEN A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE DIE IN A PLANE CRASH, WHO WILL CLAIM THEIR ACCOUNTS?
It is like when my family member, died they had an $800 three bedroom apartment with long kitchen. Not one of the family members took it over, they just gave the damn thing back to the landlord. The place is probably in the $1500-2500 range right now.
I love your examples. I, too, am concerned about the loss of digital information/virtual property (e-mail, online accounts, on-line subscriptions) when planes full of people crash.
Well, RegalSin, to be fair, this can be solved if digital items are allowed to be transferred/sold/traded to new owners.
I'm mostly talking about traditional media items (songs, films, games, novels, etc.), but I suppose it could (should?) be extended to all virtual ownership rights.
The following option should be available from service providers:
In the event of my death/permanent state of vegetation, please transfer authority to access my account to ____RegalSin@aol.com____.
I went into a local GameStop (I know, I know... how could I?) and they had a poster up with the Ouya on it for $99 or $149 with controller pre-orders.
That this was interesting...
It comes with one controller standard, so the $149 would be with a second one.
I kinda liked the idea of this at first (at least it was cheap), but I think it's a joke now that they're planning to release a new, updated console annually. Assuming game makers take advantage of the extra power, you'll end up spending just as much on a ouya platform than what you'd spend on a Wii U/PS4/720 over their ~8 year life span.
Every year? Goofy. I was into this at first too, but I soured on it after looking at the controller. It seemed like the perfect little emulator box to hook up to the tv, but that only works if the controller is awesome.
Quote from: futureman2000 on 02/13/2013, 04:44 PMI was into this at first too, but I soured on it after looking at the controller. It seemed like the perfect little emulator box to hook up to the tv, but that only works if the controller is awesome.
Under-the-hood the OUYA is just a launcher on top of android 4.1. That being said, the OUYA supports as many controllers as 4.1 android does. So you'll be able to use any ps3 controller and wired xbox 360 controllers via USB OTG. Or wireless xbox 360 controllers with the USB Adapter. Not sure if that changes your opinion or not, but it gives us options at least.
Quote from: NecroPhile on 02/13/2013, 04:40 PMIt comes with one controller standard, so the $149 would be with a second one.
I kinda liked the idea of this at first (at least it was cheap), but I think it's a joke now that they're planning to release a new, updated console annually. Assuming game makers take advantage of the extra power, you'll end up spending just as much on a ouya platform than what you'd spend on a Wii U/PS4/720 over their ~8 year life span.
yup.
Unless you want to play Ouya3 power games on an Ouya1 at 20FPS!
BUDGET GAYMER!
its no longer a console at this point. its just a tablet in a box.
... isn't that what I said in this thread like, on page 2 or something? lol
Its always been a tablet in a box?
The fact that it has Android on it is reason enough to stay away. Far far away.
Anyone get theirs yet? I've heard bad things...
I am curious to see what happens...
Despite my earlier fears/doubts, it would be nice to have another viable platform...viable being the operative word.
Ouya's got a lot of competition...
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/872297630/gamestick-the-most-portable-tv-games-console-ever?ref=live
Gamestick. Seems pretty nice. $20 cheaper.
http://www.gamepop.tv/
Gamepop looks meh to me.
PLAY buttons?
How much cornier could that be.
Somehow I think they are looking beyond the US market with this one. Hell of an gaming gift for a youngling!
This "annual update" thing killed all my interest for the system. Please tell me you're only joking. :(
I'm excited for the OUYA, but their Parking lot convention OUTSIDE of E3 is kind of sad. This is even sadder....
http://www.p4rgaming.com/homeless-invade-ouya-parking-lot-booth-say-ouya-is-not-a-console-fit-for-the-21st-century/
Quote from: PukeSter on 06/11/2013, 08:48 PMI'm excited for the OUYA, but their Parking lot convention OUTSIDE of E3 is kind of sad. This is even sadder....
http://www.p4rgaming.com/homeless-invade-ouya-parking-lot-booth-say-ouya-is-not-a-console-fit-for-the-21st-century/
Quote from: PukeSter on 06/11/2013, 08:48 PMI'm excited for the OUYA, but their Parking lot convention OUTSIDE of E3 is kind of sad. This is even sadder....
http://www.p4rgaming.com/homeless-invade-ouya-parking-lot-booth-say-ouya-is-not-a-console-fit-for-the-21st-century/
Isn't that a parody site?
Sounds like The Game Onion, minus the wit and humor.
Ouya out today.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57590953/ouya-game-console-already-sold-out-on-amazon-gamestop/
whoopeeee doooooo
You're always such a negative nancy. :P
Aaron's commentary on the Ouya:
http://youtu.be/zmFCyENaCEg
Wait wait. He doesn't have time to check here for stuff, but has time to make a YouTube video?! fuhhhh
Quote from: The Old Rover on 06/25/2013, 04:57 PMYou're always such a negative nancy. :P
Being realistic is often negative.
Quote from: guest on 06/25/2013, 03:27 PMOuya out today.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57590953/ouya-game-console-already-sold-out-on-amazon-gamestop/
Just for shits, I checked two of our local GameSlops and their both sold out... like really?
Also, Amazon is sold out. WTF?
Quote from: JoshTurboTrollX-16 on 06/25/2013, 05:21 PMQuote from: PukeSter on 06/25/2013, 03:27 PMOuya out today.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57590953/ouya-game-console-already-sold-out-on-amazon-gamestop/
Just for shits, I checked two of our local GameSlops and their both sold out... like really?
Also, Amazon is sold out. WTF?
Who knows? Maybe they had like 1 at each GameStop ;)
EDIT: http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57590930-1/dark-truth-about-ouya-debut-retail-wins-kickstarter-loses/
This is pathetic depending how you look at it. I feel bad for the Early Backers.
Quote from: guest on 06/25/2013, 05:08 PMWait wait. He doesn't have time to check here for stuff, but has time to make a YouTube video?! fuhhhh
Quote from: OldRover on 06/25/2013, 04:57 PMYou're always such a negative nancy. :P
Being realistic is often negative.
I was about to say "Aaron who?".
Doesn't sound like Aaron is too impressed.
As for being sold out, I'd bet it shipped in tiny numbers. Even some of the kickstarters haven't gotten theirs yet.
Videos I saw of the things gamepad being used show the buttons sticking a lot. Thats a big black mark against it for me. If not for that the thing would have probably been cool to use in some kind of Mame type setting.
I heard the retail ones are better than the kickstarter ones.
Nothing like getting assfucked for being an early supporter.
Hehe. "Huh?...What?...OpenPandora project?" 8)
I'm still waiting to hear from people who have the retail units, supposedly much has been improved over the prerelease builds. Really, if it has good emulators and supports standard USB pads (Saturn USB pad!) then I'm down.
Once again. OHNO!
*hugs is turbo/PCE collection*
If I wanna play android apps, I'll play on a phone or tablet. Cool idea, but I still don't see how they can improve anything android past the glitched mess it is now. Looking forward to reviews on this thing from actual people who own and play it. Should be an interesting read.
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HDMI only? guess I can't use this even if I wanted to :P
you don't want to.
So you are forced to have a solid internet connection? That stinks. Well could you still side-load emulators and apps?
Quote from: PukeSter on 06/27/2013, 01:30 PMSo you are forced to have a solid internet connection? That stinks. Well could you still side-load emulators and apps?
Listen, that's not the future of gaming.
Quote from: PunkCryborg on 06/27/2013, 10:01 AMHDMI only? guess I can't use this even if I wanted to :P
There are converters you could use, but at this point there's not much of a reason to bother.
I have no Ouya, but I did however hook my 5 year old laptop up to my TV through s-video out to do some silly emulation. :lol:
Quote from: guest on 06/27/2013, 02:03 PMQuote from: guest on 06/27/2013, 01:30 PMSo you are forced to have a solid internet connection? That stinks. Well could you still side-load emulators and apps?
Listen, that's not the future of gaming.
I've used the Ouya without any internet connection.
Noticed the Ouya had a couple really interesting releases recently.- I've purchased both
http://youtu.be/wS7Y-7_C4fM
OUYA - Pier Solar Trailer (https://youtu.be/gkZirlMgHLU#ws)
On a side note I just bought a second one to act as a media device for my upstairs TV as the Playstation TV proved to be a failure in that regard.
http://shop.ouya.tv/products/refurbished-ouya-game-console-and-controller (http://shop.ouya.tv/products/refurbished-ouya-game-console-and-controller)
Not a bad deal for a refurbished one
Quote from: DragonmasterDan on 10/16/2014, 07:34 AMOn a side note I just bought a second one to act as a media device for my upstairs TV as the Playstation TV proved to be a failure in that regard.
http://shop.ouya.tv/products/refurbished-ouya-game-console-and-controller (http://shop.ouya.tv/products/refurbished-ouya-game-console-and-controller)
Not a bad deal for a refurbished one
I think you can give PSTV a little bit more time before condemning it, no?
Quote from: esteban on 10/16/2014, 07:59 AMQuote from: DragonmasterDan on 10/16/2014, 07:34 AMOn a side note I just bought a second one to act as a media device for my upstairs TV as the Playstation TV proved to be a failure in that regard.
http://shop.ouya.tv/products/refurbished-ouya-game-console-and-controller (http://shop.ouya.tv/products/refurbished-ouya-game-console-and-controller)
Not a bad deal for a refurbished one
I think you can give PSTV a little bit more time before condemning it, no?
Well, it's been out in Japan for close to a year, and considering the lack of apps and limited support for commercial Vita games, it doesn't seem like a product polished enough to have been available in any market for six months, let alone as long as it has been in Japan.
Prior availability in Japan means nothing when it comes to Netflix, Hulu, etc. streaming apps.
Quote from: guest on 10/16/2014, 09:34 AMPrior availability in Japan means nothing when it comes to Netflix, Hulu, etc. streaming apps.
Yes, but the Vita game compatibility sure could be better with the headstart.
Quote from: DragonmasterDan on 10/16/2014, 09:47 AMQuote from: guest on 10/16/2014, 09:34 AMPrior availability in Japan means nothing when it comes to Netflix, Hulu, etc. streaming apps.
Yes, but the Vita game compatibility sure could be better with the headstart.
Yeah, I wasn't thinking about game compatibility. I'm surprised Sony hasn't done more on that front.
Quote from: esteban on 10/16/2014, 11:01 AMYeah, I wasn't thinking about game compatibility. I'm surprised Sony hasn't done more on that front.
Well and the fact that it's essentially just a Vita with TV out. Netflix is available on the Vita, it should just be a tweak to get it working and displaying properly on the PSTV. And they've had final hardware since last year to have this ready too.
Everything is better with XBMC.
Quote from: JoshTurboTrollX-16 on 10/16/2014, 11:52 AMEverything is better with XBMC.
I use a fork called SPMC http://spmc.semperpax.com/ (http://spmc.semperpax.com/)
It has AC3 sound where that was crippled in the official Ouya XBMC