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Title: Warning!! Sound
Post by: CPTRAVE on 12/10/2012, 03:42 PM
I was playing Buster Bros the other day with my daughter and while playing, a warning voice came on, it said "Warning the Disc you are using contains" and then it stopped. Has anyone ever encountered that issue before?
Title: Re: Warning!! Sound
Post by: CrackTiger on 12/10/2012, 03:48 PM
It just accidentally ran the wrong audio track. Track 1 on CD games plays a warning for CD music players.
Title: Re: Warning!! Sound
Post by: CPTRAVE on 12/10/2012, 03:52 PM
Oh ok, I was worried my CDROM was trying to tell me something bad.
Title: Re: Warning!! Sound
Post by: sirhcman on 12/10/2012, 04:45 PM
Quote from: CPTRAVE on 12/10/2012, 03:52 PMOh ok, I was worried my CDROM was trying to tell me something bad.
How are you liking it so far? It is a very simple yet addicting game!
Title: Re: Warning!! Sound
Post by: CPTRAVE on 12/10/2012, 04:50 PM
Oh yeah, my 9 year old daughter and I love the game we are trying to pass every level together. Thanks again sirhcman :P
Title: Re: Warning!! Sound
Post by: turboswimbz on 12/10/2012, 05:57 PM
i recently got buster bros.  too, fun but it get's pretty hectic later on in the game so far.
Title: Re: Warning!! Sound
Post by: sirhcman on 12/10/2012, 08:46 PM
Quote from: CPTRAVE on 12/10/2012, 04:50 PMOh yeah, my 9 year old daughter and I love the game we are trying to pass every level together. Thanks again sirhcman :P
You're welcome, glad you two are enjoying it! :)
Title: Re: Warning!! Sound
Post by: Tatsujin on 12/14/2012, 12:18 AM
Quote from: CPTRAVE on 12/10/2012, 03:52 PMOh ok, I was worried my CDROM was trying to tell me something bad.
joshua hacked into your cd-rom. He just wanted to play a nice game of chess.
Title: Re: Warning!! Sound
Post by: Joe Redifer on 12/14/2012, 12:28 AM
Every CD player I've ever stuck a videogame disc into has played the data track as completely silent. Never is there a blast of loud data. Where are the CD players that prompted all of these warnings in Turbo CD games?
Title: Re: Warning!! Sound
Post by: sirhcman on 12/14/2012, 12:33 AM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 12/14/2012, 12:18 AM
Quote from: CPTRAVE on 12/10/2012, 03:52 PMOh ok, I was worried my CDROM was trying to tell me something bad.
joshua hacked into your cd-rom. He just wanted to play a nice game of chess.
LMFAO that just made my day! xD
Title: Re: Warning!! Sound
Post by: Tatsujin on 12/14/2012, 12:33 AM
Old players from the 90s did play the data track. My friends amplifier once completely crashed because of that.
Title: Re: Warning!! Sound
Post by: BlueBMW on 12/14/2012, 07:52 AM
Yeah, data tracks sound truly awful when they get played.
Title: Re: Warning!! Sound
Post by: esteban on 12/14/2012, 09:11 PM
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 12/14/2012, 12:28 AMEvery CD player I've ever stuck a videogame disc into has played the data track as completely silent. Never is there a blast of loud data. Where are the CD players that prompted all of these warnings in Turbo CD games?
I had two CD players from the 80's that played data tracks--just random digital noise--and if you quickly skipped the track I figured nothing bad would ever happen (nothing bad ever happened to me).

Some games have alternating Red Book and data tracks (some Telenet games, IIRC)...these are the CD's that I would often have to skip the data tracks on. Thankfully, most games stuck the data on track 2 (and sometimes a redundant data track at the end of all the audio).

I've heard the horror stories about damaged equipment, but I have never met anyone who has actually had this happen to them.

There was some silly band who purposefully included a data track and warned (huge disclaimer on booklet/insert): DO NOT PLAY TRACK 11 "Doom March" because it will destroy your equipment. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

TANGENT: I don't know if I still have the CD (because it was mediocre grindcore, and that's saying something)...but, the production was way too slick for my tastes. Joe, as a fellow connoisseur of hardcore, noisecore and grindcore, I'm sure you'll agree that there should be a "raw" and "rough around the edges" feel to these genres...otherwise, they come across as far too sterile. YES STERILE. I don't want super-clean-slick production. I want messy, organic and real.

QUESTION: What happens when you put modern games (PS1 and above) into a traditional CD player. I don't think I've ever done it.
Title: Re: Warning!! Sound
Post by: roflmao on 12/15/2012, 03:03 PM
Quote from: esteban on 12/14/2012, 09:11 PMQUESTION: What happens when you put modern games (PS1 and above) into a traditional CD player. I don't think I've ever done it.
I think most use their own proprietary format, though I remember some early PS1 games including the soundtrack as redbook audio.  I I have fond memories of listening to one of the Wipeout games in my car bitd. :)
Title: Re: Warning!! Sound
Post by: SignOfZeta on 12/15/2012, 05:03 PM
Yeah, during the PS1 era developers switched to compressed audio, mainly so that loading could commence without stopping the music every time (see: PC Engine). The first Wipeout and Ridge Racer games used standard CD audio. Most (all?) Saturn games use standard redbook.
Title: Re: Warning!! Sound
Post by: CrackTiger on 12/15/2012, 07:36 PM
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 12/14/2012, 12:28 AMEvery CD player I've ever stuck a videogame disc into has played the data track as completely silent. Never is there a blast of loud data. Where are the CD players that prompted all of these warnings in Turbo CD games?
Happened for me with every CD player and discman bitd. I don't remember what year they began to not play the static, but it was definitely after CD-ROM software had become mainstream.
Title: Re: Warning!! Sound
Post by: Joe Redifer on 12/16/2012, 06:10 PM
Many Saturn games used redbook, but I wouldn't say most. Scorcher doesn't even use streamed/compressed audio. All "chiptunes". Nights uses mostly "chiptunes" with some redbook here and there.