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Title: DIE Christians DIE
Post by: Xak on 12/10/2013, 11:27 AM
Cant believe Exile got a USA release. Like changing the name of Christians to Klispins and keeping the cross on their chest would fool us.


Just saw an amazing 1954 movie called The ADVENTURES OF HAJI BABA that reminded me of Sadler

An amazing flick!!! I love it, one of my new top favorite movies of all time. The production value, the crazy horse battle stunts (my friends dad broke his neck working with horses all his life , years before retiring). I mean the battles where well orchestrated and choreographed, story was cool, and there were no "bad cuts" in the action scenes. Scantly clad women EVERYWHERE including amazons. Movie was a roller coaster. A movie with so much visual detail needs a Bluray re release.

White people playing muslims is cool too, reminds me of how the Japanese make everyone white despite race in their cartoons/games.

Hajji Baba
(https://web.archive.org/web/20131218191300im_/http://cinemaetcie.fr/PHOTODOSSIER/1001%20NUITS/AVENTURESHADJIPH.jpg)

Sadler, from Exile
(https://web.archive.org/web/20120821190212im_/http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/exile/xzr3-2.png)

(https://web.archive.org/web/20150725100227im_/http://www.sega-16.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Side-by-Side-Exile-2.gif)
Title: Re: DIE Christians DIE
Post by: whisper2053 on 12/10/2013, 11:31 AM
Err...what?  :-s
Title: Re: DIE Christians DIE
Post by: RoyVegas on 12/10/2013, 12:55 PM
Quote from: Xak on 12/10/2013, 11:27 AMMovie was a roller coaster.
Much like your posts are?
Title: Re: DIE Christians DIE
Post by: geise on 12/10/2013, 02:15 PM
Quote from: RoyVegas on 12/10/2013, 12:55 PM
Quote from: Xak on 12/10/2013, 11:27 AMMovie was a roller coaster.
Much like your posts are?
Not true.  Roller Coasters are much shorter and give you enjoyment.
Title: Re: DIE Christians DIE
Post by: VenomMacbeth on 12/10/2013, 02:22 PM
Quote from: Xak on 12/10/2013, 11:27 AMWhite people playing muslims is cool too, reminds me of how the Japanese make everyone white despite race in their cartoons/games.
Um...except not really?

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a186/helliosthesungod/AssistantBlack.gif)
Title: Re: DIE Christians DIE
Post by: Joe Redifer on 12/10/2013, 03:38 PM
Thanks for using my image from my Exile comparison on Sega-16.
Title: Re: DIE Christians DIE
Post by: PukeSter on 12/10/2013, 03:45 PM
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 12/10/2013, 03:38 PMThanks for using my image from my Exile comparison on Sega-16.
Real question is, why did he need to use it in the first place?
Title: Re: DIE Christians DIE
Post by: bob on 12/10/2013, 03:51 PM
 #-o   #-o   #-o

You just keep piling it on.
Title: Re: DIE Christians DIE
Post by: OldRover on 12/10/2013, 03:52 PM
Hrm... it's kind of true though... how many Japanese games have black people in them? Very few... and even when they do, the game is dominated by white people. SFII had M.Bison/Balrog, but the rest were white until Dee Jay was introduced... Final Fantasy didn't get a black guy as a major character until 7, and even then it was only Barret (was Rude black? hard to tell). The KOF series has Lucky Glauber and Heavy D... any others? Everyone else is white. Soul Calibur finally got a single black guy in 3 (Zasalamel), the rest... whites (and yes, I'm counting Asians as white because they are light-skinned). Parasite Eve had Daniel, everyone else was white. Rival Schools has Boman Delgado and... no one else... whites dominate the game once again. How many games let you play as a black dude as the main character? Hrm... very few. Come stateside and not much changes. The Mortal Kombat franchise, for example, has Jax and... ... and... ... ... anyone else? Oh, Darrius... he's black. Tons of scantily-clad white girls in the game series though. I don't know about characters past the Armageddon release though. Still, games need more character diversity.
Title: Re: DIE Christians DIE
Post by: VenomMacbeth on 12/10/2013, 04:04 PM
Quote from: OldRover on 12/10/2013, 03:52 PMHrm... it's kind of true though... how many Japanese games have black people in them? Very few... and even when they do, the game is dominated by white people. SFII had M.Bison/Balrog, but the rest were white until Dee Jay was introduced... Final Fantasy didn't get a black guy as a major character until 7, and even then it was only Barret (was Rude black? hard to tell). The KOF series has Lucky Glauber and Heavy D... any others? Everyone else is white. Soul Calibur finally got a single black guy in 3 (Zasalamel), the rest... whites (and yes, I'm counting Asians as white because they are light-skinned). Parasite Eve had Daniel, everyone else was white. Rival Schools has Boman Delgado and... no one else... whites dominate the game once again. How many games let you play as a black dude as the main character? Hrm... very few. Come stateside and not much changes. The Mortal Kombat franchise, for example, has Jax and... ... and... ... ... anyone else? Oh, Darrius... he's black. Tons of scantily-clad white girls in the game series though. I don't know about characters past the Armageddon release though. Still, games need more character diversity.
I wouldn't exactly call Dhalsim white.  Isn't he supposed to be Indian?  And what about Blanka?  He's green.
Title: Re: DIE Christians DIE
Post by: Nazi NecroPhile on 12/10/2013, 04:11 PM
You crazy, Rover.  It's not a "black" or "white" world.

Like Venom noted, it's impossible to argue that Blanka and Dhalsim (and T. Hawk from Super) are white.  There might not be many black video game characters, but that's true of all media.
Title: Re: DIE Christians DIE
Post by: JoshTurboTrollX on 12/10/2013, 04:29 PM
Blanka's White! I saw the movie!!

(https://mlm-s2-p.mlstatic.com/blanka-street-fighter-movie-anime-tarjetas-y-cards-3662-MLM45437939_7671-O.jpg)
Title: DIE Christians DIE
Post by: esteban on 12/10/2013, 04:32 PM
I am curious enough to watch the film that Xak mentioned...

Otherwise, the fact that there are only a handful (literally) of token female, black, etc. characters (most of whom are stereotypical) speaks volumes of the video game industry.

So, yes, I agree with Rover.  :pcgs:
Title: Re: DIE Christians DIE
Post by: OldRover on 12/10/2013, 04:55 PM
See? esteban agrees with me. CLOSE THREAD! :lol:
Title: Re: DIE Christians DIE
Post by: Nazi NecroPhile on 12/10/2013, 05:08 PM
But Estebanjo is wrong!  Look at all the great OBEY that has female characters, many of which are hardly dumb helpless bimbos: Maria, Ripple, Cotton, Princess Misa, Chew Man Fu girl, Valkyrie, Esty, etc.
Title: Re: DIE Christians DIE
Post by: OldRover on 12/10/2013, 05:59 PM
Chew Woman Fu? :lol:
Title: Re: DIE Christians DIE
Post by: Xak on 12/10/2013, 06:07 PM
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 12/10/2013, 03:38 PMThanks for using my image from my Exile comparison on Sega-16.
I got it off google images.  google "exile sadler" and youll find it. Cool coincidence though, do you want me to remove it?

Anyways, when there are black people in games they are very stereotypical. They even steal characters from movies. Dee Jay , is Billy Blanks from a movie called King of the Kickboxers

(https://web.archive.org/web/20231129101336im_/https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2G6FwGJ54gY/Sw_H9gxtuwI/AAAAAAAAAo4/Quo45Nr4pi0/s1600/noretreatnosurrender4.jpg)

deejay-streetfighter.webp

fun fact, Young Giese is Van Damme

(https://web.archive.org/web/20070123180530im_/http://www.vandamme.ru/photos/movies/nn/nn3.jpg)

(https://web.archive.org/web/20180126091122im_/https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/43/Geese-neowave.jpg)
Title: Re: DIE Christians DIE
Post by: OldRover on 12/10/2013, 06:18 PM
quickmeme/b7744ee.jpg
Title: Re: DIE Christians DIE
Post by: Tatsujin on 12/10/2013, 07:41 PM
lulz..those are "just" video games for christ's sake. white black yellow  green red blue man woman between zombies alien monster ghosts etc etc etc..doesn't matter.
Title: Re: DIE Christians DIE
Post by: OldRover on 12/10/2013, 09:18 PM
A lot of video game characters are based on real-life people. Sometimes... art imitates life.

Almost every character in Eponasoft's current production, Lucretia, is based on a real-life person.
Title: Re: DIE Christians DIE
Post by: Tatsujin on 12/10/2013, 09:27 PM
will tats have a part init? :P
Title: Re: DIE Christians DIE
Post by: OldRover on 12/10/2013, 09:42 PM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 12/10/2013, 09:27 PMwill tats have a part init? :P
Tatsujin Corp is in our run-and-gun game. :)
Title: Re: DIE Christians DIE
Post by: ToyMachine78 on 12/10/2013, 10:56 PM
Dude u need help :-s
Title: Re: DIE Christians DIE
Post by: Joe Redifer on 12/11/2013, 01:43 AM
Quote from: guest on 12/10/2013, 03:54 PM
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 12/10/2013, 03:38 PMThanks for using my image from my Exile comparison on Sega-16.
Joe, are you stepping up and taking responsibility for "TurboGrafix"? :lol:
Never! I did not do the captions, just provided the separate images for the article (and the article itself). Funny, because the guy who did do the captions (Melf) owns a TurboGrafx himself.
Title: Re: DIE Christians DIE
Post by: PCEngineHell on 12/11/2013, 08:58 AM
The video game industry doesn't ignore black people. It just so happens there are tons of American and Euro developed games released in America, where North America is the main target market, with black people in them in supporting roles and as the main characters. In Japan, I can understand game development not including many black characters into their titles. For one, demographics. I seriously doubt Japan is just filled to the brim with black residents clamoring for more representation in their video games there. They are not going to go out of their way to pander to such a small minority of their population. This holds true for US development as well.

While there are Asian characters and the such in American developed games, they are not usually a dominate force in the story/character wise unlike whites or blacks. Usually the only time they are is when it is a crime related game and it needs the Yakuza or typical Chinese gangs of some sort to be involved in the plot, such as in Kane and Lynch 2, Hitman, or Stranglehold. Just how it is. Game companies have to pander to their local demographics first and foremost, or pander to the key market they plan to make the most money in. Demographics in other countries or secondary markets obviously come second.

You can call it game industry bias, racism, or whatever, but all it really comes down to is money and what they feel the target demographic is going to want most, what will appeal to them the most. I mean seriously, do you really think while game developers are doing character designs they are sipping their office, smoking their cigs and spouting racist slurs the entire time while deciding what races to include in their games?
Title: Re: DIE Christians DIE
Post by: OldRover on 12/11/2013, 10:04 AM
Quote from: PCEngineHell on 12/11/2013, 08:58 AMI mean seriously, do you really think while game developers are doing character designs they are sipping their office, smoking their cigs and spouting racist slurs the entire time while deciding what races to include in their games?
This is Fighting street, so YES! I think so! Racist bastards!!! Fuck 'em all!!!

...no seriously... yeah, I am very familiar with the concept of pandering to your target market and all, but it's not like players are saying "we don't want no blacks in our games, dammit! and no bitches 'neither!". :lol: Maybe it just doesn't come to mind.
Title: Re: DIE Christians DIE
Post by: turboswimbz on 12/11/2013, 10:36 AM
Quote from: OldRover on 12/11/2013, 10:04 AM
Quote from: PCEngineHell on 12/11/2013, 08:58 AMI mean seriously, do you really think while game developers are doing character designs they are sipping their office, smoking their cigs and spouting racist slurs the entire time while deciding what races to include in their games?
This is Fighting street, so YES! I think so! Racist bastards!!! Fuck 'em all!!!

...no seriously... yeah, I am very familiar with the concept of pandering to your target market and all, but it's not like players are saying "we don't want no blacks in our games, dammit! and no bitches 'neither!". :lol: Maybe it just doesn't come to mind.
I don't want no bitches in my games. I wantz them on me in real life.  On a side note, ladies with huge racks that can hold your beer while you play is a nice feature.
Title: Re: DIE Christians DIE
Post by: Xak on 12/13/2013, 02:24 PM
^sounds like paradise.

Its not when your in it. Youd rather seclude after its all said and done.
Title: Re: DIE Christians DIE
Post by: Xak on 12/20/2013, 08:43 AM
*waiting for the Item shop to open* sucks