The thought occurred to me...while there are tons of aftermarket joypad a for the Genesis, SNES, and NES, there are few dedicated Master System pads. And that got me thinking...since the Genesis and SMS have the same plug, why not make the joypad completely cross-compatible between the systems? And while many would disagree with me on this, I would want such a joypad to somewhat replicate the look and feel of the original SMS pads, square directional pad and all. Lots of people hate the square D-pad. I happen to think it's marvelous, although I suspect it's more prone to wearing on the rubber contacts within than the NES pads. Surely this could be remedied with a little modern engineering, yes? What are your thoughts?
Quote from: VenomMacbeth on 02/14/2014, 04:37 PMThe thought occurred to me...while there are tons of aftermarket joypad a for the Genesis, SNES, and NES, there are few dedicated Master System pads. And that got me thinking...since the Genesis and SMS have the same plug, why not make the joypad completely cross-compatible between the systems? And while many would disagree with me on this, I would want such a joypad to somewhat replicate the look and feel of the original SMS pads, square directional pad and all. Lots of people hate the square D-pad. I happen to think it's marvelous, although I suspect it's more prone to wearing on the rubber contacts within than the NES pads. Surely this could be remedied with a little modern engineering, yes? What are your thoughts?
I hate that disc. It's too loose. I think there's a way by snipping one of the wires inside of a Genesis controller to make a regular Genesis pad work with all the SMS games.
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the MD and SMS pads are already compatible.
I always use my MD Blaster pad to play the sms..such good!
Quote from: Tatsujin on 02/14/2014, 11:00 PM?
the MD and SMS pads are already compatible.
I always use my MD Blaster pad to play the sms..such good!
some games arent compatible with a genesis controller, like wonder boy in monster land
The square pad is terrible =[
It's way too big and it's almost impossible to hit a clean direction. If you play Wonder Boy in Monster Land (and you damn well should) you'll be crapping out spells by accident left and right like an incontinent wizard.
The very first thing I did was drop those pads into a storage bin and modified a Genesis 3-button pad to work with all the SMS games. World of difference.
i would have always liked a nes or pc engine controller for my sms. unfortunately i am not very handy at all so i was never able to make one :(
Quote from: guest on 02/14/2014, 11:07 PMQuote from: Tatsujin on 02/14/2014, 11:00 PM?
the MD and SMS pads are already compatible.
I always use my MD Blaster pad to play the sms..such good!
some games arent compatible with a genesis controller, like wonder boy in monster land
sure? maybe incompatible only on the western SMS? I played my WBiML a lot with the MD blaster pad on my JPN SMS.
Most SMS games work fine using a Genesis pad.
The SMS/Mark III pads control perfectly with the screw-in joystick-nub.
Ah I got it. the western SMS probaly got the Joy port harness of the japanese markIII which also isn't compatible to the JPN SMS, and the japanes SMS got already a different (the future MD one), since it was released quite later :)
Quote from: guest on 02/14/2014, 11:07 PMsome games arent compatible with a genesis controller, like wonder boy in monster land
whoah, really? never knew this...i dont spend nearly as much time with 2 as 3 (the timer throws me off) but that's a bummer.
so then there is even one more advantage of the japanese SMS over the oversea one :D
Quote from: IrishNinja on 02/15/2014, 04:25 AMQuote from: guest on 02/14/2014, 11:07 PMsome games arent compatible with a genesis controller, like wonder boy in monster land
whoah, really? never knew this...i dont spend nearly as much time with 2 as 3 (the timer throws me off) but that's a bummer.
If you cut through the Start button wire, it'll work. You can mod a switch but fuck that. CHOP CHOP
Quote from: guest on 02/15/2014, 12:59 AMMost SMS games work fine using a Genesis pad.
The SMS/Mark III pads control perfectly with the screw-in joystick-nub.
While it does give slightly tighter control I hate that the cords come out of the side of the pad on the screw in SMS pads.
Quote from: Tatsujin on 02/15/2014, 05:04 AMso then there is even one more advantage of the japanese SMS over the oversea one :D
Indeed. However, the Mark III and the SG-1000 are totally incompatible with Genesis/MD controllers. It's an easy fix though, the reason why they don't work on those systems is because pin 7 is connected to ground, so that messes up the multiplexer chip in the Genesis/MD controller. Just desolder pin 7 or cut the trace for it and you're good to go.
SMS pad = worst ever made. Give me a Jag controller any day,
Quote from: ApolloBoy on 02/15/2014, 02:52 PMQuote from: Tatsujin on 02/15/2014, 05:04 AMso then there is even one more advantage of the japanese SMS over the oversea one :D
Indeed. However, the Mark III and the SG-1000 are totally incompatible with Genesis/MD controllers. It's an easy fix though, the reason why they don't work on those systems is because pin 7 is connected to ground, so that messes up the multiplexer chip in the Genesis/MD controller. Just desolder pin 7 or cut the trace for it and you're good to go.
yeah, I figured that out once, but didn't know that the ouversea SMS was built on the same tech level, whilst the JPN SMS already moved on to the MD (and other D-Sub 9 compatible system) standard.