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Title: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: johnnykonami on 11/14/2014, 05:37 PM
Although I never thought this game looked very good when I was a kid, I have these memories of pouring over the Turboplay issue it was featured in - seeing the designers tools to actually build the game is what really got me at the time.  Couple that with a recent interest in the Addams Family pinball game and rewatching the movies, I figured maybe it might be worth checking into it for the hell of it.  Anyone know what it's worth?  Also, I wouldn't mind hearing some opinions from those of you who have played it.  I think I remember a lot of pretty atrocious reviews.
Title: Re: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: madboom0522 on 11/14/2014, 05:52 PM
It is actually kind of fun...for me at least. I would say $25-$35 for a nice copy is pretty fair.
Title: Re: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: Ayce on 11/14/2014, 06:56 PM
To answer the question directly... too much!

You know what they say about movie games right? Yeah this is no exception. If you are wanting it just because you have to have it in your collection then, sure buy it. I for one can't stand this game. But, I concur with madboom on the price. There is one on ePay right now for $20 + $2 shipping. That's probably as low as it will go on there, unless you get lucky.
Title: Re: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: bob on 11/14/2014, 10:19 PM
AF is one of my favorite turbo games. Its tough, and exploring the mansion is fun.
I have heard some people give up right away, because the opening stage can be difficult at first, but anybody can get through it.  Once thats done...you go in the mansion and it opens up a bit. You need to figure out the order of the doors to enter to collect all the things you have to find.
Its very odd, but its a basic solid platformer at its heart. You need to stick with it...certainly need patience.
The final trek to gomez is difficult once you get through the mansion, and there are some controller throwing moments.   But all in all, i love AF.  Still gets a lot of play.
Title: Re: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: HailingTheThings on 11/14/2014, 10:47 PM
This game is definitely worth what it goes for and by that I mean $20-25. I've had fun with it, so there's that.

*insert early 00s era Brendon Small** sassy face*

**of Metalocalypse & Home Movies fame.
Title: Re: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: madboom0522 on 11/14/2014, 11:59 PM
Quote from: galam on 11/14/2014, 10:19 PMAF is one of my favorite turbo games. Its tough, and exploring the mansion is fun.
I have heard some people give up right away, because the opening stage can be difficult at first, but anybody can get through it.  Once thats done...you go in the mansion and it opens up a bit. You need to figure out the order of the doors to enter to collect all the things you have to find.
Its very odd, but its a basic solid platformer at its heart. You need to stick with it...certainly need patience.
The final trek to gomez is difficult once you get through the mansion, and there are some controller throwing moments.   But all in all, i love AF.  Still gets a lot of play.
There is the problem with the game. No one really tries to play through the first board... Gets more fun after that.
Title: Re: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: MrFlutterPie on 11/15/2014, 12:21 AM
I like AF.  It's not the best game ever but it's pretty interesting and is fun.
Title: Re: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: johnnykonami on 11/15/2014, 02:21 AM
Thanks guys, I'll definitely add it to the bucket list now.
Title: Re: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: bob on 11/15/2014, 10:17 AM
i have a spare if you want it.  CIC very good condition.
$18 shipped?
Title: Re: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: VestCunt on 11/15/2014, 02:44 PM
Addams Family is a good example of a "5" on a scale of 1-10: everything works, fun can be derived from the game, it can be beaten in a day or two, and it's attracted a handful of advocates. Nothing special, but I really enjoyed playing through it and making a diagram of the mansion.
Title: Re: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: cr8zykuban0 on 11/15/2014, 02:48 PM
my local game store has it boxed for 25 bucks I believe, I might have to pick it up and give it a try?
Title: Re: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: madboom0522 on 11/15/2014, 03:03 PM
Quote from: cr8zykuban0 on 11/15/2014, 02:48 PMmy local game store has it boxed for 25 bucks I believe, I might have to pick it up and give it a try?
Sounds like you have your answer....
Title: Re: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: grache on 11/15/2014, 03:35 PM
Quote from: galam on 11/15/2014, 10:17 AMi have a spare if you want it.  CIC very good condition.
$18 shipped?
If no one else takes you up on this offer, I want it.

TG-16 CD games I've been looking for: Last Alert, Final Zone II, Addams Family, J.B. Harold.

Conclusion: zomg, I'm a collectard!
Title: Re: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: bob on 11/15/2014, 03:49 PM
offer is only open to jk at the moment.  i may be posting a FS thread in a few days.
Title: Re: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: seieienbu on 11/16/2014, 12:25 PM
The controls and hit detection always felt wonky to me but I found the game fun enough.  The last time I gave it a run through was maybe 2 years ago.  I hadn't played it in so long that I had to spend several games trying to re-learn the correct path through the mansion once it opens up.  Yeah, I'd like the game more if the controls felt better but imo it's still good enough to grant an enjoyable playthrough.  If you can get a copy for $25 I figure it will be well worth that price.
Title: Re: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: johnnykonami on 11/16/2014, 01:09 PM
That's a generous offer, Galam, thank you!  I'll PM you.
Title: Re: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: roflmao on 11/17/2014, 12:50 AM
I bought Addams Family for ~$10 off ebay back on 9-23-13 and felt it was a waste of money. I really want to like this game because I love the franchise, but it's just not fun to play. I keep hoping someday I'll give it another solid go, but there are so many other good games out there to play, I haven't gotten around to it yet. :)

I spent a good chunk of this past weekend playing Monster Lair and Shapeshifter and both are better side-scrolling action/adventure games than Addams Family. And probably cost less looking at today's going rate...
Title: Re: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: johnnykonami on 11/17/2014, 02:07 PM
It wasn't on my to buy list, but I just figured why not.  I know it's an ICOM game, and I'm usually not too impressed with those (Except for the NES era Shadowgate/Deja Vu/Uninvited games) but I'll get some amusement out of it I'm sure.  I'm also expecting a Japanese Vasteel to replacement my stolen US copy pretty soon, but for now I should stop buying games for myself so close to Christmas.
Title: Re: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: BigusSchmuck on 11/17/2014, 02:43 PM
I really should get a job at Game Dude.
http://www.gamedude.com/turbog.html (http://www.gamedude.com/turbog.html)
I bought mine loose for $5 2 years ago from the Retro Gaming Convention in Portland Oregon.
Title: Re: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: Ayce on 11/20/2014, 08:52 AM
Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 11/17/2014, 02:43 PMI really should get a job at Game Dude.
http://www.gamedude.com/turbog.html (http://www.gamedude.com/turbog.html)
I bought mine loose for $5 2 years ago from the Retro Gaming Convention in Portland Oregon.
I didn't even know they still exist!
Title: Re: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: madboom0522 on 11/20/2014, 02:54 PM
Yeah, until you call them and they say hold on let me check the price.... That means what is it selling for on e-bay at the moment....
Title: Re: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: ctophil on 11/20/2014, 05:56 PM
I bought my copy of The Addams Family only like 2 months ago for $20.00 in really nice condition (no scratches, complete with case & instructions).  It was my first Turbografx-CD game I ever owned.  It was to test out the TG-CD unit I got during the summer. 

The game itself is fun but hard as rocks.  I got past the mansion after dying numerous times and trying to figure out how to get past certain parts.  The game has that weird feeling like they never finished making the game or something.  lol.  I died instantly after the mansion.  It only gets harder.  It's not a bad platformer, just not as good as the other versions on SNES and Sega Genesis.
Title: Re: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: johnnykonami on 12/07/2014, 12:54 AM
My buddy and I finally popped this baby in tonight, and man is it brutal.  It's also entirely possible we're scrubs in our old age, but damn, we couldn't even beat fester with all those bats and and spiders while he's blasting you with lightbulbs all over the place.  Tried for like 15-20 minutes and decided to do something else :)  I'll give it another go on my own in a couple days though.

Does this game not have any CD audio?  I just ripped it using Turborip and we played it on Magic Engine, and it only ripped an 11 meg iso and no redbook audio tracks.  A little surprised, a couple of reviews had mentioned "CD quality audio" but I just checked the CD itself and it doesn't seem to have any.
Title: Re: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: MrFlutterPie on 12/09/2014, 06:46 PM
Are you sure you ripped it right?  The audio is a highlight for me personally.
Title: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: esteban on 12/09/2014, 06:59 PM
Quote from: johnnykonami on 12/07/2014, 12:54 AMMy buddy and I finally popped this baby in tonight, and man is it brutal.  It's also entirely possible we're scrubs in our old age, but damn, we couldn't even beat fester with all those bats and and spiders while he's blasting you with lightbulbs all over the place.  Tried for like 15-20 minutes and decided to do something else :)  I'll give it another go on my own in a couple days though.

Does this game not have any CD audio?  I just ripped it using Turborip and we played it on Magic Engine, and it only ripped an 11 meg iso and no redbook audio tracks.  A little surprised, a couple of reviews had mentioned "CD quality audio" but I just checked the CD itself and it doesn't seem to have any.
I don't think Addams Famiky has Red Book audio tracks...it streams ADPCM, if I recall correctly. One of the tech gurus can explain in more detail.
Title: Re: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: Bernie on 12/09/2014, 08:25 PM
Nope, no redbook.  Just one small little ISO.  I don't even know why this was released as a CD game, unless the voice-overs required it to be so.
Title: Re: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: bob on 12/09/2014, 09:10 PM
Quote from: Bernie on 12/09/2014, 08:25 PMNope, no redbook.  Just one small little ISO.  I don't even know why this was released as a CD game, unless the voice-overs required it to be so.
Says right on the box.  "CD Graphics"
Title: Re: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: thisIsLoneWolf on 12/09/2014, 10:28 PM
I think I remember reading an article (it may have been Turbo Play), where they were talking about how the game levels stream from the disc. That would almost imply that level graphics/maps are too large to fit into memory all at once.

It's been a while since I've played this game, but maybe someone here can chime in regarding how large/complex the levels are, and if there are many noticeable load times, during gameplay.

I wonder if any other ICOM games employed similar level streaming technology back then. I don't think this was all that common of a technique prior to the "playstation era".
Title: Re: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: Nazi NecroPhile on 12/10/2014, 09:49 AM
Johnny says it's an 11mb iso, which I presume to be megabytes (or 88 megabits); no doubt that's mostly adpcm, which would be sorely missed if removed (especially the title music).
Title: Re: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: johnnykonami on 12/10/2014, 04:55 PM
I figured it was something like that.  I haven't heard the rest of the music beyond Fester, and it could have been the emulation, but even that music (more like "weird" ambience) cut off after a few loops.  Still, even at 11 Megabytes it would be pretty huge for a Hucard.  Street Fighter 2 was one of the biggest, right?  and that was 20 Megabits - 2.5 Megabytes.
Title: Re: What's the going rate on Addams Family?
Post by: Nazi NecroPhile on 12/10/2014, 05:04 PM
It'd be huge for any cart back in the day; the largest Genny and SNES carts were about half that size and came years later.