http://youtu.be/2_FU0HO3l24 This turd is so irritating. Clearly he has no clue what he's talking about.
" I think Ys got its start on TurboGrafx."
"No, that was the PC Engine."
"My Order of the Griffon didn't come with a CD case like it was supposed to."
Seriously ?!
Also, this is a list of hidden gems? Pac-Land is no gem. Veigues is no gem. World Court Tennis is no gem. They are all just hidden, and they should stay that way. Cadash may be a gem but it was on Genesis. It's not hidden. Like half their list doesn't work for this context.
I don't understand why they even made this video. Is he that delusional that he thinks people want to see his goofy doofus face. No one wants to see a long haired pudgy chinless version of Kay from Sword in the Stone. Yet 30k+ people have watched this shit smear's video. What the hell?!
Gets worse.
http://youtu.be/KG759O0tRgI
This was bitched about in another thread.
i hate seeing this dude in my YT recommended videos
Anytime I watch his videos I pretend that he and his co-host just got done.
I don't care for Metal Jesus, but I disagree with your sentiments on Veigues. It's not a great game, but as far as hucards go it's definitely worth playing. A diamond in the rough, if you will.
I will absolutely agree though about his stoopid face. That's why I don't watch it, or any show really where it just shows a dude talking. Show me games, guy.
Quote from: slinkyturd on 12/13/2014, 10:33 PMI don't understand why they even made this video. Is he that delusional that he thinks people want to see his goofy doofus face. No one wants to see a long haired pudgy chinless version of Kay from Sword in the Stone. Yet 30k+ people have watched this shit smear's video. What the hell?!
When I started paying attention to YT, I was disappointed to find that gaming on YouTube is a wasteland. The grown "men" who pretend to be legitimately terrified by screen savers like Five Nights
at Freddie's are of course the worst. The rest seem to be like the guy in the video.
"Hey everybody. Look at all the shit I have! I just bought another box of shit off Ebay! Check out all the shit I bought! I better move a little to the left, so I don't block your view of my big wall of shit. Tune in next week when I unbox the rare Cambodian bootleg of the ZX Spectrum classic Granny Farts a Biscuit. It's like my favorite game EVARRRRRRR!"
And it is at that point you realize why the video was made, and why the hidden gems chosen were anything but. He needed an excuse to make a video about more of his shit.
a bitched and complain about this episode with him, tho
Ys Book 1 was for the Sega Master System
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ys_I:_Ancient_Ys_Vanished (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ys_I:_Ancient_Ys_Vanished)
Playing a bit of devils advocate, he was never an original Turbo guy, so for him, these are "GEMS"
Quote from: mackdanger on 12/14/2014, 01:12 AMThe rest seem to be like the guy in the video. "Hey everybody. Look at all the shit I have! I just bought another box of shit off Ebay! Check out all the shit I bought! I better move a little to the left, so I don't block your view of my big wall of shit. Tune in next week when I unbox the rare Cambodian bootleg of the ZX Spectrum classic Granny Farts a Biscuit. It's like my favorite game EVARRRRRRR!"
Hahaha, not a fan of unboxing videos, I see...
Here's one you might like though.
youtu.be/7Z-2png9v5Q
Go Go Birdie Chance unboxing
Quote from: NightWolve on 12/14/2014, 01:28 AMHahaha, not a fan of unboxing videos, I see...
Here's one you might like though.
Go Go Birdie Chance unboxing
That was actually pretty cool. For me it depends on what is being unboxed or showcased. You have a complete copy of Chu Teng for the PC? Okay, you have my attention. If you want a real laugh, go on YT, search for "PS4 unboxing," and watch how many results come back.
I've mention it before MJR expertise is PC gaming and not so much consoles.I have listen to agg podcast,where mjr mentions he grew up on playing video games on the pc more.Still for that video that's his friend TG16,showing what he think is are hidden gems.In the comment section even i said those games are not hidden gems.
Quote from: TR0N on 12/14/2014, 01:52 AMStill for that video that's his friend TG16,showing what he think is are hidden gems.In the comment section even i said those games are not hidden gems.
Then I stand corrected as for his motivation for making this particular video.
He is pretty terrible...
Quote from: guest on 12/13/2014, 11:49 PMThis was bitched about in another thread.
It sure was. (https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=17593.msg369063#msg369063)
Quote from: Dicer on 12/14/2014, 02:12 AMHe is pretty terrible...
He's not terrible overall, actually a really nice guy if you ever chat with him. It's just that these Turbo ones are really, really bad.
Quote from: guest on 12/13/2014, 11:49 PMThis was bitched about in another thread.
I'm gonna keep bitching until we all organize and troll the shit out of him and he's forced to stay in his mom's basement with the cats and off my interweb.
Quote from: mackdanger on 12/14/2014, 01:12 AMQuote from: slinkyturd on 12/13/2014, 10:33 PMI don't understand why they even made this video. Is he that delusional that he thinks people want to see his goofy doofus face. No one wants to see a long haired pudgy chinless version of Kay from Sword in the Stone. Yet 30k+ people have watched this shit smear's video. What the hell?!
When I started paying attention to YT, I was disappointed to find that gaming on YouTube is a wasteland. The grown "men" who pretend to be legitimately terrified by screen savers like Five Nights
at Freddie's are of course the worst. The rest seem to be like the guy in the video.
"Hey everybody. Look at all the shit I have! I just bought another box of shit off Ebay! Check out all the shit I bought! I better move a little to the left, so I don't block your view of my big wall of shit. Tune in next week when I unbox the rare Cambodian bootleg of the ZX Spectrum classic Granny Farts a Biscuit. It's like my favorite game EVARRRRRRR!"
And it is at that point you realize why the video was made, and why the hidden gems chosen were anything but. He needed an excuse to make a video about more of his shit.
YES! He's a complete shit! Shit talking about his shit!
Quote from: PunkCryborg on 12/13/2014, 11:54 PMi hate seeing this dude in my YT recommended videos
I can relate to that.
Quote from: mackdanger on 12/14/2014, 01:12 AMQuote from: slinkyturd on 12/13/2014, 10:33 PMI don't understand why they even made this video. Is he that delusional that he thinks people want to see his goofy doofus face. No one wants to see a long haired pudgy chinless version of Kay from Sword in the Stone. Yet 30k+ people have watched this shit smear's video. What the hell?!
When I started paying attention to YT, I was disappointed to find that gaming on YouTube is a wasteland. The grown "men" who pretend to be legitimately terrified by screen savers like Five Nights
at Freddie's are of course the worst. The rest seem to be like the guy in the video.
"Hey everybody. Look at all the shit I have! I just bought another box of shit off Ebay! Check out all the shit I bought! I better move a little to the left, so I don't block your view of my big wall of shit. Tune in next week when I unbox the rare Cambodian bootleg of the ZX Spectrum classic Granny Farts a Biscuit. It's like my favorite game EVARRRRRRR!"
And it is at that point you realize why the video was made, and why the hidden gems chosen were anything but. He needed an excuse to make a video about more of his shit.
Yeah I concur. He's up there with that Brittany Brombacher chick. Her Brits Shit videos are the epitome of what you describe..... OMG ! So I was like driving down the road and this like 90 year old woman was having this dinky yardsale. You know the kind where half the shit is old dresses that look like drapes?... Anyhoo I felt compelled to stop.... Look what I found under some doilies! A box of games! This lot has FF7 and Earthbound, and I got the whole lot for 50¢! Even though I already have 6 copies of FF7, now I have 7 copies! Like how cool is that!? I can't wait to tell my buddy Joe Reddifer... He just loves this game.....
Ugh.... Shut up!!!!!!!!
I have a better idea for a video series.... How about: "Brits Tits".... So much potential.
Quote from: Retrocool on 12/14/2014, 01:17 AMa bitched and complain about this episode with him, tho
Ys Book 1 was for the Sega Master System
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ys_I:_Ancient_Ys_Vanished (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ys_I:_Ancient_Ys_Vanished)
Yeah, I hated it on the SMS. I much preferred to play this game on my old VGA PC.
Playing a bit of devils advocate, he was never an original Turbo guy, so for him, these are "GEMS"
I don't know why I am posting this here. I guess I did not want to start a thread.
METAL JESUS @clueless videos
A few days ago I was thinking how ironic it was that I enjoy looking at old magazines NOW...when, back when they were new, I thought the writing/opinions/analysis/etc. was mediocre, at best.
If I was critical of content as a kid, you can imagine my views of the old written content now.
Then I thought how the world really hasn't improved as much as I thought it had, post-Internet.
A few people who write about _____ know what they are writing about.
A few folks who talk about _____ know what they are talking about.
That's it.
It has always been this way.
It shall always be this way.
The only good thing is that occasionally, if you are lucky, you'll find someone who knows what he/she is talking about (but this was true Pre-Internet as well!).
Pre-Internet, it was hard to find competent folks. You had to physically find them. But if you did...
BOTTOM LINE: We are better off now. There is MORE OF EVERYTHING...more quality and more crap.
You see, I thought the CRAP:QUALITY ratio would change.
But the crap:quality ratio is still pretty bad today... We just have more of everything (which is, indeed, an improvement...but it means you have to sift through a lot more crap).
WHAT I AM SAYING IS NOT NEW...it has been said whenever technology lowers the obstacles to create and/or distribute stuff. See: Gutenberg and printing press.
I remember arguing about this issue in the 80's/90's when it came to music (indie music/fanzine scenes were blossoming... People talked about the crap:quality ratio versus the sheer quantity of content available).
Oh, and who was having this discussion? Well, my friends and I read about the debate in our favorite fanzine. Then we started talking about it. Some things don't change.
Quote from: esteban on 12/14/2014, 10:05 AMI don't know why I am posting this here. I guess I did not want to start a thread.
METAL JESUS @clueless videos
A few days ago I was thinking how ironic it was that I enjoy looking at old magazines NOW...when, back when they were new, I thought the writing/opinions/analysis/etc. was mediocre, at best.
If I was critical of content as a kid, you can imagine my views of the old written content now.
Then I thought how the world really hasn't improved as much as I thought it had, post-Internet.
A few people who write about _____ know what they are writing about.
A few folks who talk about _____ know what they are talking about.
That's it.
It has always been this way.
It shall always be this way.
The only good thing is that occasionally, if you are lucky, you'll find someone who knows what he/she is talking about (but this was true Pre-Internet as well!).
Pre-Internet, it was hard to find competent folks. You had to physically find them. But if you did...
BOTTOM LINE: We are better off now. There is MORE OF EVERYTHING...more quality and more crap.
You see, I thought the CRAP:QUALITY ratio would change.
But the crap:quality ratio is still pretty bad today... We just have more of everything (which is, indeed, an improvement...but it means you have to sift through a lot more crap).
WHAT I AM SAYING IS NOT NEW...it has been said whenever technology lowers the obstacles to create and/or distribute stuff. See: Gutenberg and printing press.
I remember arguing about this issue in the 80's/90's when it came to music (indie music/fanzine scenes were blossoming... People talked about the crap:quality ratio versus the sheer quantity of content available).
Oh, and who was having this discussion? Well, my friends and I read about the debate in our favorite fanzine. Then we started talking about it. Some things don't change.
Incorrect, sir. We have Metal Jesus now and he is becoming that turd that just circles the bowl and never disappears down his hole despite how many times you flush. He's always there daring you to reach in with your hand and do "it" the hard way, but we refrain. We justify futile flushes with thoughts of "Everyone will come to their senses and see him for what he is: an attention whore golf ball size turd tempting you to do the unthinkable." This will not do! I protest this rationalizing of his existence, sir. You need to repent immediately. Bow before your Duo and say 10 Hail Hudsonsofts and 10 Our NECs.
I totally agree with you. Metal Jesus is, figuratively and literally, crappagio.
Please forgive me.
And may God forgive Metal Jesus.
Quote from: esteban on 12/14/2014, 01:34 PMI totally agree with you. Metal Jesus is, figuratively and literally, crappagio.
Please forgive me.
And may God forgive Metal Jesus.
Ah-men.
I personally dont mind his other hidden gems videos for other systems since he seems to know what hes talking about and actually shows off games ive never heard of or that I never knew was available for the systems hes talking about. when it comes to the turbo hidden gems video, none of the games hes talking about are hidden gems at all.
im afraid his video will probably drive up prices on turbo games :(
Points and laughs "haw haw you still had faith in humanity"!
Quote from: mackdanger on 12/14/2014, 02:04 AMQuote from: TR0N on 12/14/2014, 01:52 AMStill for that video that's his friend TG16,showing what he think is are hidden gems.In the comment section even i said those games are not hidden gems.
Then I stand corrected as for his motivation for making this particular video.
Yup he should have bought the console first and explore it's library of games,before making a video.For that matter at least ask spida1a what are the good ones.
Quote from: TR0N on 12/15/2014, 01:01 AMQuote from: mackdanger on 12/14/2014, 02:04 AMQuote from: TR0N on 12/14/2014, 01:52 AMStill for that video that's his friend TG16,showing what he think is are hidden gems.In the comment section even i said those games are not hidden gems.
Then I stand corrected as for his motivation for making this particular video.
Yup he should have bought the console first and explore it's library of games,before making a video.For that matter at least ask spida1a what are the good ones.
exactly!!
Quote from: slinkyturd on 12/14/2014, 12:48 PMIncorrect, sir. We have Metal Jesus now and he is becoming that turd that just circles the bowl and never disappears down his hole despite how many times you flush. He's always there daring you to reach in with your hand and do "it" the hard way, but we refrain.
LOL!!!!
Quote from: Retrocool on 12/14/2014, 01:17 AMYs Book 1 was for the Sega Master System
The SMS got a port, true, but it didn't start there.
the first Wanderers of Y'''s was on SNES. At least, that's the first I played.
Quote from: PunkCryborg on 12/13/2014, 11:54 PMi hate seeing this dude in my YT recommended videos
I hate pretty much any recommendation Youtube throws at me, and since there's no way to control any of it (remove things you don't like, feature things you specifically promote) I just ignore that whole trash heap of a home page. There's a couple other gaming personalities that I never wanna see, among them Gamester81, and mainstream stuff like pewdiepie and other lets play garbage. I just wish there was a "stop showing me content from this channel" option. Then I might actually see the stuff I do like without it getting buried.
Quote from: JoshTurboTrollX-16 on 12/15/2014, 01:24 PMthe first Wanderers of Y'''s was on SNES. At least, that's the first I played.
The first Ys was on Famicom... or was it is MSX...? Or was it....SharpXXX6668thousandish?
Quote from: HailingTheThings on 12/15/2014, 05:20 PMThe first Ys was on Famicom... or was it is MSX...? Or was it....SharpXXX6668thousandish?
I'll go with D) None of the Above.
Quote from: guest on 12/15/2014, 05:25 PMQuote from: HailingTheThings on 12/15/2014, 05:20 PMThe first Ys was on Famicom... or was it is MSX...? Or was it....SharpXXX6668thousandish?
I'll go with D) None of the Above.
NEC PC-8801
You made me look it up. Technically it started with OBEY. Yeh.
When I watch PC Engine videos, this is what I get recommended:
http://youtu.be/XawFchNjoyM
You're all doing YouTube wrong.
Quote from: guest on 12/15/2014, 06:27 PMWhen I watch PC Engine videos, this is what I get recommended:
youtu.be/XawFchNjoyM
You're all doing YouTube wrong.
What is with the child porn?
You know what I really want to do? A concert dressed in vinyl! Sounds like a fantastic idea.
Quote from: Medic_wheat on 12/15/2014, 08:48 PMQuote from: guest on 12/15/2014, 06:27 PMWhen I watch PC Engine videos, this is what I get recommended:
youtu.be/XawFchNjoyM
You're all doing YouTube wrong.
What is with the child porn?
Some of them are wearing cat ears, so it'd technically be "kitty" porn.
Quote from: ParanoiaDragon on 12/15/2014, 09:21 PMQuote from: Medic_wheat on 12/15/2014, 08:48 PMQuote from: guest on 12/15/2014, 06:27 PMWhen I watch PC Engine videos, this is what I get recommended:
youtu.be/XawFchNjoyM
You're all doing YouTube wrong.
What is with the child porn?
Some of them are wearing cat ears, so it'd technically be "kitty" porn.
Dang furries.
Quote from: PunkCryborg on 12/13/2014, 11:54 PMi hate seeing this dude in my YT recommended videos
Exactly! So damn irritating seeing his face everytime I check videos. I checked his channel out, and thoroughly detested it. Nothing against him, I just don't like the cut of his jib.
Quote from: reson8er on 12/17/2014, 11:24 AMQuote from: PunkCryborg on 12/13/2014, 11:54 PMi hate seeing this dude in my YT recommended videos
Exactly! So damn irritating seeing his face everytime I check videos. I checked his channel out, and thoroughly detested it. Nothing against him, I just don't like the cut of his jib.
Go to his "about" page (https://www.youtube.com/user/MetalJesusRocks/about (https://www.youtube.com/user/MetalJesusRocks/about)) click on the flag at the bottom then block him. I haven't seen him in recommendations ever since.
If you like MetalJesus, then you'll *love* this guy (https://youtu.be/P9HG1KpmCPg).
Quote from: grache on 12/18/2014, 12:23 AMIf you like MetalJesus, then you'll *love* this guy (https://youtu.be/P9HG1KpmCPg).
LOL LAME
It's a giant Hudson.png !
My god...
Quote from: esadajr on 12/17/2014, 11:54 AMQuote from: reson8er on 12/17/2014, 11:24 AMQuote from: PunkCryborg on 12/13/2014, 11:54 PMi hate seeing this dude in my YT recommended videos
Exactly! So damn irritating seeing his face everytime I check videos. I checked his channel out, and thoroughly detested it. Nothing against him, I just don't like the cut of his jib.
Go to his "about" page (https://www.youtube.com/user/MetalJesusRocks/about (https://www.youtube.com/user/MetalJesusRocks/about)) click on the flag at the bottom then block him. I haven't seen him in recommendations ever since.
Awesome man, thanks! No longer will I have to see his face.
Edit: Holy shit, I am blocking channels like a maniac now, it's beautiful.
Metal Jesus might be the worst thing to ever happen to the Internet and the YouTube...
But on the real, all of these 45 year-old virgin jackoffs need to stop recording their hobbies and providing us with a 5 minutes synopsis of a 2 minute Google search.
I can understand why people don't like Metal Jesus, but I watch his videos sometimes. He's not my go to source for TG-16 information though. Content has to be dumbed down to appeal to the masses.
At least Metal Jesus isn't a complete set collector. I don't care if people collect entire sets, but I thought people bought games they liked and once they had those filled in the gaps with the junk.
The guy I linked to picked up 17 games of which ~5 he liked.
Quote from: guest on 12/18/2014, 11:32 AMMy god...
Wow.... What a disaster. Those two may be the closest you will ever come to seeing a real life Toe-jam and Earl. Lol
And did that guy say he put his entire TG-16 collection together in 3 weeks?
Quote from: grache on 12/18/2014, 06:24 PMI can understand why people don't like Metal Jesus, but I watch his videos sometimes. He's not my go to source for TG-16 information though. Content has to be dumbed down to appeal to the masses.
There is one positive that I can give the guy. From what I've seen, he actually talks about the games instead of using the games to talk about himself.
Quote from: mackdanger on 12/18/2014, 09:17 PMQuote from: grache on 12/18/2014, 06:24 PMI can understand why people don't like Metal Jesus, but I watch his videos sometimes. He's not my go to source for TG-16 information though. Content has to be dumbed down to appeal to the masses.
There is one positive that I can give the guy. From what I've seen, he actually talks about the games instead of using the games to talk about himself.
I personally find Metal Jesus to have a soothing, pleasant screen presence. I like him. Sure, he's a big goof. A big, lovable goof.
When he talks about something he has actual experience with (like a favorite game), he seems fine. I have only seen that a few times, though.
I have only watched a handful of his episodes though, ever. So, maybe I'm not the best person to ask. Ha!
He's not that bad. Nobody can excel at everything and I guess the TG-16 is one of those consoles that he hasn't wrapped his head around. He's definitely not the most annoying video game related YouTube channel out there.
Quote from: mackdanger on 12/14/2014, 01:12 AMQuote from: slinkyturd on 12/13/2014, 10:33 PMI don't understand why they even made this video. Is he that delusional that he thinks people want to see his goofy doofus face. No one wants to see a long haired pudgy chinless version of Kay from Sword in the Stone. Yet 30k+ people have watched this shit smear's video. What the hell?!
When I started paying attention to YT, I was disappointed to find that gaming on YouTube is a wasteland. The grown "men" who pretend to be legitimately terrified by screen savers like Five Nights
at Freddie's are of course the worst. The rest seem to be like the guy in the video.
"Hey everybody. Look at all the shit I have! I just bought another box of shit off Ebay! Check out all the shit I bought! I better move a little to the left, so I don't block your view of my big wall of shit. Tune in next week when I unbox the rare Cambodian bootleg of the ZX Spectrum classic Granny Farts a Biscuit. It's like my favorite game EVARRRRRRR!"
And it is at that point you realize why the video was made, and why the hidden gems chosen were anything but. He needed an excuse to make a video about more of his shit.
Agreed, I don't mind people like Metal Jesus because he's not very entertaining, it's not a gift everyone has, but hes trying to do something with his life, so I won't hate on him for it, I just won't watch his videos. The bigger problem is everyone wants to be a collector now and brag about it on YouTube like anyone gives a spit. "Oh yesh, I own Magical Chase, does my life have meaning now?!" And other impressionable minds see this and are like "oooh that Turbo looks like the fun, I wanna collect all the games too!". And all I see are a bunch of grown men with a disease called collecting, that is tragic not admirable. I'd love to know what the ratio of games they own to the games they have actually beaten is.
Quote from: jordan_hillman on 12/18/2014, 05:58 PMMetal Jesus might be the worst thing to ever happen to the Internet and the YouTube...
But on the real, all of these 45 year-old virgin jackoffs need to stop recording their hobbies and providing us with a 5 minutes synopsis of a 2 minute Google search.
YES!!!! Either know what you are making a video about or don't make a damn video.
Even people who know how to make a video more times than not ought not to do so.
Metal Jesus doesn't hock stuff or have commercials pre-vid does he? I've only watched a few.
It kind of rubs me the wrong way when someone like Gamester81 has a commercial for say, Stone Age Gamer or Bit Boxes in front of his videos, and then "reviews" something and gives it a good review, and immediately recommends you get it at...Stone Age Gamer (who I like, I have a couple of their products). Or "reviews" his own homebrew effort. Etc. That's the shit that makes me lose faith in (video game) humanity. Maybe he's 100% honest and unbiased when it comes to reviewing things that help line his pocket, and maybe I can dunk on a regulation rim.
That guys videos are like xanx anyway, even when they are about something good. Talk about monotone.
Quote from: slinkyturd on 12/19/2014, 04:55 AMQuote from: jordan_hillman on 12/18/2014, 05:58 PMMetal Jesus might be the worst thing to ever happen to the Internet and the YouTube...
But on the real, all of these 45 year-old virgin jackoffs need to stop recording their hobbies and providing us with a 5 minutes synopsis of a 2 minute Google search.
YES!!!! Either know what you are making a video about or don't make a damn video.
Maybe but he never claims to know anything really. When ever it is about a system game series or what have you that he didn't grow up on or have a vested interest he brings on a friend who has an interest in said video.
For the most part I have enjoyed them. The people on it seem Ernest in their individual passion for what ever they are brought on for.
He has two friends really into Sega
A female friend into N64 and GameCube
And he is really all about PC gaming being that he worked for Siera.
Granted the TG-16 video is his weakest and for that I am glad. I am always fearful of a higher profile youtuber talking about Nel GeoSega or Tg-16. Because I just keep seeing prices jump a little higher.
Now if I already HAD all the SEGA TG-16 and Neo Geo MVS stuff I wanted then talk away lol. But I dont.
Quote from: GoldenWheels on 12/19/2014, 08:37 AMMetal Jesus doesn't hock stuff or have commercials pre-vid does he? I've only watched a few.
It kind of rubs me the wrong way when someone like Gamester81 has a commercial for say, Stone Age Gamer or Bit Boxes in front of his videos, and then "reviews" something and gives it a good review, and immediately recommends you get it at...Stone Age Gamer (who I like, I have a couple of their products). Or "reviews" his own homebrew effort. Etc. That's the shit that makes me lose faith in (video game) humanity. Maybe he's 100% honest and unbiased when it comes to reviewing things that help line his pocket, and maybe I can dunk on a regulation rim.
That guys videos are like xanx anyway, even when they are about something good. Talk about monotone.
I seriously doubt he has anything to do with the ads played before his videos. Most web ads are targeted based upon your search history, cookies, subscriptions, and anything else they can mine from your device cache or profile.
Quote from: guest on 12/19/2014, 09:07 AMI seriously doubt he has anything to do with the ads played before his videos. Most web ads are targeted based upon your search history, cookies, subscriptions, and anything else they can mine from your device cache or profile.
I'm certainly not sure but I think he does, the voice over for the ad is often his voice (believe that was the case for bit box one) and the ads (could also be wrong here as I haven't watched one of his videos in a while) seem to be part of the actual video....they're not those random pre-vid commercials you can skip after 5 seconds or whatever.
EDIT: I checked one random one quick ("Gamerz Tek 8-Bit Entertainment System Review"), it was his voice and it was an actual part of the video. Was for the powerbase converter thing, which is a great product. But that still rubs me the wrong way.
After reading through this thread, one thing is VERY certain...Metal Jesus will never sign up for a pcenginefx account. We already have the ultimate obey reviewer though. :)
Quote from: Miracle_Warrior on 12/19/2014, 11:10 AMAfter reading through this thread, one thing is VERY certain...Metal Jesus will never sign up for a pcenginefx account. We already have the ultimate obey reviewer though. :)
Damn straight! Spida1a's turbo views are the standard I hold all YouTube gamer/reviews videos too.
Sadly, most fall short.
Quote from: jordan_hillman on 12/19/2014, 01:39 PMQuote from: Miracle_Warrior on 12/19/2014, 11:10 AMAfter reading through this thread, one thing is VERY certain...Metal Jesus will never sign up for a pcenginefx account. We already have the ultimate obey reviewer though. :)
Damn straight! Spida1a's turbo views are the standard I hold all YouTube gamer/reviews videos too.
Sadly, most fall short.
Turbo Views are the only TG ones I look for. That said they are better than most every gaming reviewer on youtube for any given system. CGR Undertow does some good reviews too, but I've never seen them do a TG game and I've never looked for it either. Other systems they seem to do a good job. Those 2 are the only ones I'll go out of my way to look for a review I want to see.
MJ wouldn't be getting all these views/subscribers if he wasn't entertaining and/or popular. I'll admit, his Turbo GEMs videos are terrible and not indicative of what most (who are deeply familiar with) consider a hidden gem. Technically all TG16 games are hidden games, given the obscurity of the console in the US, but we know better!
Quote from: PikachuWarrior on 12/19/2014, 03:29 PMMJ wouldn't be getting all these views/subscribers if he wasn't entertaining and/or popular. I'll admit, his Turbo GEMs videos are terrible and not indicative of what most (who are deeply familiar with) consider a hidden gem. Technically all TG16 games are hidden games, given the obscurity of the console in the US, but we know better!
And we also know how much the turbo games are worth.... down to the penny!!
Quote from: chany60126 on 12/19/2014, 03:35 PMQuote from: PikachuWarrior on 12/19/2014, 03:29 PMMJ wouldn't be getting all these views/subscribers if he wasn't entertaining and/or popular. I'll admit, his Turbo GEMs videos are terrible and not indicative of what most (who are deeply familiar with) consider a hidden gem. Technically all TG16 games are hidden games, given the obscurity of the console in the US, but we know better!
And we also know how much the turbo games are worth.... down to the penny!!
Zing! Heh-heh. Now he'll complain about us holding grudges for too long! ;)
I greatly enjoy MJR videos. So there.
Quote from: Greg2600 on 12/26/2014, 07:55 PMI greatly enjoy MJR videos. So there.
Damn, you've got a point. Shit.
Quote from: HailingTheThings on 12/26/2014, 11:21 PMQuote from: Greg2600 on 12/26/2014, 07:55 PMI greatly enjoy MJR videos. So there.
Damn, you've got a point. Shit.
I must recant my previous statements under the weight of the reasoning behind that statement.
Is anyone saying that his videos on average suck? I only groaned when I saw the Turbo videos, and that's two out of dozens.
Quote from: guest on 12/27/2014, 11:47 AMIs anyone saying that his videos on average suck? I only groaned when I saw the Turbo videos, and that's two out of dozens.
Some are.
I find that most of his videos are pretty good.
Maybe it is because it isn't always just him. He does a lot where friends will come on and talk about a game series or system that he doesn't really get that into as his go to person for that video or topic. Mind you it is more who he has on and what they know about a given topic that might make people annoyed then MJR himself. As it is not himself giving much input bit asking the random "clueless guy" question either for the benefit of those unfamiliar with said system or game or he truly is in the dark.
Honestly, overall I don't mind MJR. Like he annoys the shit outta me, but he's not that bad. I think more than anything it's his friends that fuck up any chance of him being amazing in my book. Well, except CircuitsAndCoffee, she's cool, but only because she's so nerdy and awkward that it somehow works in her favor or something.
I wasn't impressed with his PS2 lists either, his forte really. His Best ever ps2 lists seemed to me to be a top list of just RPGs. Like I get that RPGs are good but they shouldn't dominate the best of list for THAT system.
He's missed on every list I've seen, He's a dopey ogre lookin' mother fucker, and his videos seem ill prepared.
Quote from: slinkyturd on 12/28/2014, 01:52 PMI wasn't impressed with his PS2 lists either, his forte really. His Best ever ps2 lists seemed to me to be a top list of just RPGs. Like I get that RPGs are good but they shouldn't dominate the best of list for THAT system.
He's missed on every list I've seen, He's a dopey ogre lookin' mother fucker, and his videos seem ill prepared.
Ha! You really don't like this guy. I'm not going to change your mind. :) I don't disagree with you: judging by his knowledge of video games, he is not a "match" for me. But that's probably why I like him—he has a different perspective on things.
IN DEFENSE (again) of METALJESUS: As simply a host of a show, I still like him.
I guess, at the most basic level, I think the ogre is charming and I'll watch him do anything, really. I don't watch him for his expertise, I watch him because he has a friendly, endearing presence in front of the camera.
He is dopey-looking, but I think his heart is pretty sincere. That's why I like him...he strikes me as a genuinely nice person. Making videos. He is not an expert. But he's still better than SO MANY other folks out there.
Remember, I see most videos on YouTube as *entertainment*, first and foremost. It just makes life easier if I do this. Even folks who allegedly prepare the content of their videos in advance struggle with basic research skills, it seems.
So, my expectation going into 99% of videos is this: the video might be entertaining...and even if it isn't, I might delve into topic __________ in more detail (that is, do my own research).
LOTS OF CRAPPY SITES/podcasts/videos have been the starting point for my own exploration.
LOL. You youtubers........wasting your lives.
Quote from: geise on 12/28/2014, 03:52 PMLOL. You youtubers........wasting your lives.
I think it looks like fun! Seems that some people have fun making these videos and people are obviously watching. If I wasn't so camera shy, I'd make more videos of my own. Though I must say, most of these people who review Turbo-anything are really hard to watch for me usually for things like garbling facts or general presence. But, they're doing it and I'm not so kudos to them!
Basically what esteban said. Now AlphaOmegaSin, that's a guy I cannot stand at all.
Quote from: guest on 12/28/2014, 11:50 PMBasically what esteban said. Now AlphaOmegaSin, that's a guy I cannot stand at all.
Yeah, he's just TOO MUCH. I think he makes good points (I've only watched a handful of his videos, but his arguments were generally sound), but his delivery (protracted ranting) is tiring.
I do believe that AlohaStateSin actually plays games, in depth, so I will give him credit for that.
TOPIC CHANGE:
One guy I like (Lazy Game Reviews) is still not perfect for me, but I really enjoy the items he focuses on (old hardware and peripherals, old DOS games). As the "host" of a show, I think he does a good job (sure, he might be too-conscious of his own vocal delivery....but I attribute it to LGR "creating a persona" with a slightly-contrived "voice actor" approach). Anyway, I look forward to his stuff. I wish he did more research before filming, but I could say that for most folks.
I don't know his name, so I call him LGR. Ha.
I'll be honest, though, I don't like 99% of the video game stuff out there on YouTube. So much garbage.
I have seen this video and other videos and I also don't line up with his tastes in games. I respect those are his choices. I also don't fully understand his taste in games because they are cheap and not good at times. If I go back to play games I like to play games that I fell help define the platform. Also there was still bad games then and I can live to avoid them at times.
Quote from: Groover on 01/04/2015, 03:59 PMI have seen this video and other videos and I also don't line up with his tastes in games. I respect those are his choices. I also don't fully understand his taste in games because they are cheap and not good at times. If I go back to play games I like to play games that I fell help define the platform. Also there was still bad games then and I can live to avoid them at times.
I play all the games, "good" and "bad", because, honestly, lots of stuff that folks consider "bad" is not really bad. Plus, I don't trust anyone's opinion on stuff. I'd rather play a crappy game and decide for myself.
:)
Quote from: esteban on 01/04/2015, 04:59 PMI play all the games, "good" and "bad", because, honestly, lots of stuff that folks consider "bad" is not really bad. Plus, I don't trust anyone's opinion on stuff. I'd rather play a crappy game and decide for myself.
:)
I can dig that. I like that you give some games a shot. I know I try some out even if they are not regarded well. I just remember as a kid picking up that new game and finding out is is a dud. Then you really sink some hours into it and it is still crap. This is not always the truth.
This thread was a fun read. I wish some of you guys had YouTube channels.
Quote from: esteban on 01/04/2015, 04:59 PMI play all the games, "good" and "bad", because, honestly, lots of stuff that folks consider "bad" is not really bad. Plus, I don't trust anyone's opinion on stuff. I'd rather play a crappy game and decide for myself.
:)
This is definitely the way I go as well. More often than not I find something redeemable or charming from just about every game I play, especially on the TG.
I'm even excited to give Night Creatures a shot (once I'm able to get a copy of course :() even though most of what I hear has been pretty negative.
Quote from: esteban on 01/04/2015, 04:59 PMI play all the games, "good" and "bad", because, honestly, lots of stuff that folks consider "bad" is not really bad. Plus, I don't trust anyone's opinion on stuff. I'd rather play a crappy game and decide for myself.
:)
I agree a lot with this. I do like to at least watch some game play video sometimes before spending much on a game.
I liked some of Metal Jesus' earlier videos. But now he's making videos to generate views, rather than doing it for its own sake (because I think he's trying to do it for a living maybe). Same thing happened to Classic Game Room.
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 01/07/2015, 03:46 PMI liked some of Metal Jesus' earlier videos. But now he's making videos to generate views, rather than doing it for its own sake (because I think he's trying to do it for a living maybe). Same thing happened to Classic Game Room.
I would agree with that. I prefer when it's just him talking about a couple games. His friends are not entertaining, and they seem to flash through the games.
Quote from: Greg2600 on 01/07/2015, 11:50 PMQuote from: CGQuarterly on 01/07/2015, 03:46 PMI liked some of Metal Jesus' earlier videos. But now he's making videos to generate views, rather than doing it for its own sake (because I think he's trying to do it for a living maybe). Same thing happened to Classic Game Room.
I would agree with that. I prefer when it's just him talking about a couple games. His friends are not entertaining, and they seem to flash through the games.
That he is i wonder what happen to him reviewing his own games.Lately it's his friends,fine but uhh shouldn't they have there own channel for that !? On the agg podcast he says he's super busy with work so i don't know.
Plain and simple
If you don't like his videos don't watch it
Me: I like his Videos
Quote from: KnightWarrior on 01/11/2015, 02:22 PMPlain and simple
If you don't like his videos don't watch it
Wow, thanks for the insight. I guess we can just go ahead and lock this thread now.
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 01/12/2015, 02:21 PMWow, thanks for the insight. I guess we can just go ahead and lock this thread now.
Ha!
Plain and simple: no dissenting opinions or discussion is allowed in a discussion forum. KnightWarrior hath spoken!!!
Criticism: how dose it works?
Daaaaaaamn! Someone slap some sense into me if I ever dare to share an opinion without running it by you guys first. :lol:
Seriously, Metal Jesus is a light-hearted, upbeat dude who loves games and finding out about games he missed out on(he's said that in quite a few videos). And remember, none of those hidden gem videos are for experts on those consoles. Can you imagine someone trying to make videos or articles about hidden gems for a bunch of experts? Not only would it not be news to the experts, but they would probably say some mean things about it on a forum somewhere! :wink:
Quote from: captain_n77 on 01/13/2015, 10:09 AMthey would probably WILL say some mean things about it on a forum somewhere! :wink:
I think that is called teh interwebs.
I have Omega and Jesus on subscribe, but only when I'm out of Game Sack and Retrowaretv "VG Years" do I bother with lower tier hollytubers. CGR guy is fine by me, but his vids are too short and just too much bother now that he moved to his new site.
Retro Hardware (https://www.youtube.com/show/retrohardware) was good for the few eps, like a briefing...no random chatter and BS, "just the facts, ma'am". But alas, no more.
There are two type of youtube game vids: Game Sack and NOT Game Sack.
Quote from: captain_n77 on 01/13/2015, 10:09 AMSeriously, Metal Jesus is a light-hearted, upbeat dude who loves games and finding out about games he missed out on(he's said that in quite a few videos).
I agree, and as I said before I like his earlier videos. But it has become pretty obvious that his main focus now is getting as many views as possible, rather than creating high-quality videos. A lot of people do this, trying to follow a formula to boost viewership and number of subscribers. The only two reasons for doing this are ego and money. It has nothing to do with putting out quality. CGR guy does the exact same thing, but I think he's entertaining and his videos are short, so when he's showing off a game that I like, I'll watch the vid.
Game Sack is a perfect example of what I'm talking about (or maybe the antithesis of what I'm talking about.) It's pretty obviously the highest-quality YouTube show about retrogaming, both from a production standpoint as well as content. But look at how many subscribers they have and how many average views their videos get. Criminally low compared to a lot of asshats out there who are churning out complete shit. But those people are following the formula. YouTube rewards quantity over quality because it's primary user base are teenagers and twenty-somethings who have no attention span and are used to the Facebook/Twitter universe. Constant, meaningless updates. So a guy like CGR, who uploads a video every day but says basically nothing has tons of subs and views even though his channel lacks real substance.
It all comes down to your motivation. Are you trying to do something that you can stand behind and be proud of (or maybe it's a hobby and you're doing it for fun or as a creative outlet)? Or are you just trying to generate clicks, make some money, and become a YT celeb who gets to sit on panel discussions at gaming expos?
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 01/12/2015, 02:21 PMQuote from: KnightWarrior on 01/11/2015, 02:22 PMPlain and simple
If you don't like his videos don't watch it
Wow, thanks for the insight. I guess we can just go ahead and lock this thread now.
Gotta admit, that had me LMAO for a bit.
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wat.
Now, I like Alpha Omega Sin. He does tend to go on a tangent...but I like him.
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Quote from: guest on 02/18/2015, 11:55 PM(https://web.archive.org/web/20190510210420im_/https://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/misc/mjr1.jpg)
Owe.
Mie.
Ghaahhd.
Quote from: grache on 12/18/2014, 12:23 AMIf you like MetalJesus, then you'll *love* this guy (https://youtu.be/P9HG1KpmCPg).
what the helllll
Quote from: esteban on 02/19/2015, 12:13 AMQuote from: guest on 02/18/2015, 11:55 PM(https://web.archive.org/web/20190510210420im_/https://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/misc/mjr1.jpg)
Owe.
Mie.
Ghaahhd.
He done did got it for free, too.
Could have just given him a fucking Dio album, it's all the same, he wouldn't even know the difference. The man is mentally challenged after all.
The Lair of Metal Jesus Rocks: Where donated retro games go to get... idk, flushed down the toilet?
Tits.
Quote from: HailingTheThings on 02/19/2015, 02:58 AMQuote from: esteban on 02/19/2015, 12:13 AMQuote from: guest on 02/18/2015, 11:55 PM(https://web.archive.org/web/20190510210420im_/https://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/misc/mjr1.jpg)
Owe.
Mie.
Ghaahhd.
He done did got it for free, too.
Could have just given him a fucking Dio album, it's all the same, he wouldn't even know the difference. The man is mentally challenged after all.
The Lair of Metal Jesus Rocks: Where donated retro games go to get... idk, flushed down the toilet?
Tits.
Because I am a masocihst I watched the entire video.
GOD I HATE THESE VIDEOS ("latest pickups")...
Anyway, he mentioned that he worked for Sierra back in the day...does anyone know what his actual job title was? Just curious.
Anyway, I still think that there are a lot of folks who are much, much worse than Metal JESUS, so I just laugh at this goofball. :)
For example, NO JOKE, I had never watched even a second of a "pewdiepie" video before. Sure, I heard of him, but never watched anything. DEAR LORD HE IS ABOMINABLE. I couldn't stomach more than 45 seconds. I can't believe he has not been tarred and feathered for his antics.
So, Metal JESUS is the least of my problems. Ha!
Quote from: esteban on 02/19/2015, 06:46 AMAnyway, he mentioned that he worked for Sierra back in the day...does anyone know what his actual job title was? Just curious.
Janitor.
Quote from: guest on 02/19/2015, 09:49 AMQuote from: esteban on 02/19/2015, 06:46 AMAnyway, he mentioned that he worked for Sierra back in the day...does anyone know what his actual job title was? Just curious.
Janitor.
That I wouldn't doubt he doesn't come off as especially bright. Granted his big claim to fame seems to stem more from being in some FMV section of one game they made where he is "playing" a guitar looking all 80s rock.
Quote from: Medic_wheat on 02/19/2015, 02:08 PMQuote from: guest on 02/19/2015, 09:49 AMQuote from: esteban on 02/19/2015, 06:46 AMAnyway, he mentioned that he worked for Sierra back in the day...does anyone know what his actual job title was? Just curious.
Janitor.
That I wouldn't doubt he doesn't come off as especially bright. Granted his big claim to fame seems to stem more from being in some FMV section of one game they made where he is "playing" a guitar looking all 80s rock.
Hahhaahhaha. This is now something that I must see.
Ridiculous.
Awesome.
Wasteful.
RAW.
Quote from: esteban on 02/19/2015, 04:15 PMQuote from: Medic_wheat on 02/19/2015, 02:08 PMQuote from: guest on 02/19/2015, 09:49 AMQuote from: esteban on 02/19/2015, 06:46 AMAnyway, he mentioned that he worked for Sierra back in the day...does anyone know what his actual job title was? Just curious.
Janitor.
That I wouldn't doubt he doesn't come off as especially bright. Granted his big claim to fame seems to stem more from being in some FMV section of one game they made where he is "playing" a guitar looking all 80s rock.
Hahhaahhaha. This is now something that I must see.
Ridiculous.
Awesome.
Wasteful.
RAW.
He featured his cameo in one of his videos, but I couldn't be bothered to pin point which video of his this was in.
This Toolet Mignon is out of control. I will find his 2 seconds of non-fame...
I think Metal Jerbus was a secretary or something along those lines, though I'm probably wrong. I'm pretty sure he mentioned what he kinda did, but didn't come right out and say. Let me go look...
Got bored after looking for 5 seconds. We'll just say secretary-ish thing... which I think is what he is currently doing at some new company that hired him because his friend Drunken Master Paul put in the good word. Why do I know this? Jerzus-effck I retain way too much useles information. Fucking youtube. Gotta stop watching shitty videos when I'm tired. Hah.
Quote from: HailingTheThings on 02/20/2015, 02:30 AMDrunken Master Paul
Of all the youtube personalities I've seen, this guy has to be one of the worst, if not the absolute worst. One video I watched turned me off from the entire channel - a tour of john hancock's game collection, where "Drunken Master Paul" was being a massive asshole. never again please
MJesus said in one of his vids that he worked at Sierra as a game tester if I recall correctly.
But it's the only one I watched because I find him both visually and orally repulsive.
A guy I really like a lot is lukemorse, cause he lives in Japan (home country of my wife) and really knows how to fix old systems. He also makes vids of his bike ramblings in Tokyo and tests weird Japanese foods and drinks. Check him out, he's the epitome of coolness
Epitome? I think the word you meant to use was 'antithesis'.
Not correct epitome means 'perfect example'
Antithesis means just the opposite.
Sorry to teach you your own language
Quote from: eldritch on 02/20/2015, 10:58 AMNot correct epitome means 'perfect example'
Antithesis means just the opposite.
Sorry to teach you your own language
I think NecroPhile was suggesting that "lukemorse" is the epitome of _____.
:)
Quote from: eldritch on 02/20/2015, 10:58 AMNot correct epitome means 'perfect example'
Antithesis means just the opposite.
Sorry to teach you your own language
Does your dictionary have a definition of "facetious"?
Quote from: eldritch on 02/20/2015, 04:02 AMlukemorse
I like lukemorse, especially his repair vids, but I wouldn't describe him as the epitome of coolness. A while back his wife and kids left him because of his outrageous videogame hoard. He quit for a while, I'm surprised he's back
Quote from: poponon on 02/20/2015, 02:46 AMQuote from: HailingTheThings on 02/20/2015, 02:30 AMDrunken Master Paul
Of all the youtube personalities I've seen, this guy has to be one of the worst, if not the absolute worst. One video I watched turned me off from the entire channel - a tour of john hancock's game collection, where "Drunken Master Paul" was being a massive asshole. never again please
(https://i.imgur.com/yfFytTT.jpg)
Also John Hancock really pisses me off. Reminds me off this little shit in my neighborhood growing up that just had to have absolutely everything. Ehhh.
Quote from: guest on 02/20/2015, 03:39 PMQuote from: eldritch on 02/20/2015, 10:58 AMNot correct epitome means 'perfect example'
Antithesis means just the opposite.
Sorry to teach you your own language
Does your dictionary have a definition of "facetious"?
Facetious? That's my baby's name!
Quote from: HailingTheThings on 02/20/2015, 05:35 PMAlso John Hancock really pisses me off. Reminds me off this little shit in my neighborhood growing up that just had to have absolutely everything. Ehhh.
I wouldn't say the guy pisses me off but I find his collection pretty ridiculous, I don't understand the point of buying games just for the sake of collecting. Also I watched a video a while back where he was talking about how he got into the hobby, and it was just sort of a fluke and he pretty much is in it just to collect. Seems like he doesn't care for playing the games much. wacko
Quote from: poponon on 02/20/2015, 04:55 PMQuote from: eldritch on 02/20/2015, 04:02 AMlukemorse
I like lukemorse, especially his repair vids, but I wouldn't describe him as the epitome of coolness. A while back his wife and kids left him because of his outrageous videogame hoard. He quit for a while, I'm surprised he's back
Thought something like that had happened to him. Not cool, for sure.
Sorry I didn't get the joke, BTW. Hard for a newcomer to understand the lingo here.
Me not spaek it good yet :lol:
Quote from: eldritch on 02/21/2015, 02:43 AMQuote from: poponon on 02/20/2015, 04:55 PMQuote from: eldritch on 02/20/2015, 04:02 AMlukemorse
I like lukemorse, especially his repair vids, but I wouldn't describe him as the epitome of coolness. A while back his wife and kids left him because of his outrageous videogame hoard. He quit for a while, I'm surprised he's back
Thought something like that had happened to him. Not cool, for sure.
Sorry I didn't get the joke, BTW. Hard for a newcomer to understand the lingo here.
Me not spaek it good yet :lol:
No need to apologize.
Just play play 10 hours of Ballistix as penance.
:)
Quote from: eldritch on 02/21/2015, 02:43 AMQuote from: poponon on 02/20/2015, 04:55 PMQuote from: eldritch on 02/20/2015, 04:02 AMlukemorse
I like lukemorse, especially his repair vids, but I wouldn't describe him as the epitome of coolness. A while back his wife and kids left him because of his outrageous videogame hoard. He quit for a while, I'm surprised he's back
Thought something like that had happened to him. Not cool, for sure.
Sorry I didn't get the joke, BTW. Hard for a newcomer to understand the lingo here.
Me not spaek it good yet :lol:
I was never even aware he was married or had kids. He always came off as some sort of single western guy living it up in Japan.
In fact knowing how small most houses even more so apartments are in Japan I always wondered how the hell he would fit half the stuff he has. Those candy cabs alone. Sure he has said something about having a storage unit but yeah.
Quote from: esteban on 02/21/2015, 06:30 AMNo need to apologize.
Just play play 10 hours of Ballistix as penance.
...I'd rather just apologize.
Quote from: seieienbu on 02/21/2015, 11:09 AMQuote from: esteban on 02/21/2015, 06:30 AMNo need to apologize.
Just play play 10 hours of Ballistix as penance.
...I'd rather just apologize.
Hahaahhahahahahahahaha. Yeah, me too :)
LukeMorse is way too full of himself.
John Hancock? The dude markets a DVD set that you can buy that basically just shows off his collection. It's some kind of "how to collect for..." kind of shit, but at the end of the day it's just a one-man circlejerk.
One time I was at PRGE and I was chatting it up with a few show volunteers, and they were telling me how Hancock was acting like a huge prima donna. I think their exact words were "that guy is an asshole". It never ceases to amaze me how anyone who is part of the retrogaming scene could ever get a big head. I once heard a story that involved Pete Dorr using the phrase "Do you know who I am" as a means of getting his way at a gaming convention. A fucking brown streak on the underwear of life is what you are, Pete.
lol lukemorse shows you how to not fix a pcb the right way. if you're that amateurish with fixing shit don't put up a video. Anyways MJ is terrible and I can't believe this thread has gone on this long. Seems like people that hate him still check out his shit.
It's the drama. There is always something new to talk about. :dance:
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 02/21/2015, 08:27 PMJohn Hancock? The dude markets a DVD set that you can buy that basically just shows off his collection. It's some kind of "how to collect for..."
A lot of these jokers have some kind of "How to collect for X system" videos and frankly, I find it absolutely baffling. Not simply that someone would make such a video, but that others would actually watch it. What could possibly need to be explained? "Uhhhhh, so like, that system you want. Yeah, first you buy that, then you buy the games." I don't get it.
As for Luke Morse, well, that's a whole other wad of WTF. The guy will drop stupid amounts of money on PCBs, games, systems, and then he goes at them with a shitty, corroded $20 soldering iron. I used to watch his videos when I first got into modding about a year ago, but I knew immediately there were better examples to follow. If you search for his "final video" on YouTube, someone else re-upped it with a lulzy description.
Add Gamester 81 to the list. In fact put him near the top.
Quote from: mackdanger on 02/22/2015, 12:16 AMIf you search for his "final video" on YouTube, someone else re-upped it with a lulzy description.
Was gonna add this but I felt bad
Quote from: Bloufo on 02/22/2015, 01:49 AMAdd Gamester 81 to the list. In fact put him near the top.
another guy that just seems to collect for the sake of collecting without knowning much about the actual games. weird
Quote from: Bloufo on 02/22/2015, 01:49 AMAdd Gamester 81 to the list. In fact put him near the top.
another guy that just seems to collect for the sake of collecting without knowning much about the actual games. weird[/quote]
And heavy handed to boot. :lol:
Watch a few of his earlier vids before he invested in a tripod. He handles rare pieces of console hardware as if he's stress-testing their durability.
collectors are mostly idiots.
I am pretty much tired of all of the gaming YouTube channels.
It's all the same:
1) Person in front of shelves of bullshit they haven't touched/won't touch/haven't touched in 15+ years
2) carefully placed "rare" items for maximum cool. Congrats. You have stuff other people also have.
3) retarded opinions/statements that shout "I just wikipedia'd this". Thanks for nothing.
sometimes you get a little variety:
1) Shitty camera use (a'la middle school movie project). If you are going to make a channel, buy a tripod, fuckface.
2) annoying introduction. Nobody cares about your tacky Windows Movie Maker transitions/logo/crap.
3) cue-card style talking. Because you didn't already sound like a tool.
what you never get:
1) Anything you actually give a fuck about
2) time wasted back.
The only gaming channel I can even watch is AVGN. He's a character. You go into it expecting stupidity and exaggeration.
And then you watch James/Mike Mondays and you get something un-fucking-heard of:
1) Gamers playing a game, and bullshitting amongst themselves while doing it.
2) actual reactions/statements on the game being played
I might have already said this in this thread but I am too lazy to look.
Quote from: guest on 02/22/2015, 03:57 AMThe only gaming channel I can even watch is AVGN. He's a character. You go into it expecting stupidity and exaggeration.
And then you watch James/Mike Mondays and you get something un-fucking-heard of:
1) Gamers playing a game, and bullshitting amongst themselves while doing it.
2) actual reactions/statements on the game being played
Yeah, I still like his show for these very reasons.
Quote from: eldritch...Sorry I didn't get the joke, BTW. Hard for a newcomer to understand the lingo here.
Me not spaek it good yet :lol:
I've found that on this forum you may sometimes find a bunch of guys having a sargasm all over what you said. Respond how you want but for me what works is ignoring it, being nice, or responding with friendly sarcasm.
Quote from: guest on 02/22/2015, 03:57 AMAVGN.
I think AVGN is becoming more and more like the other shows. Although I enjoy watching, I find that the James+Mike mondays have sort of a forced feeling to them. Maybe it's just nitpicking
James+Mike suck.
Quote from: poponon on 02/22/2015, 02:21 AMQuote from: mackdanger on 02/22/2015, 12:16 AMIf you search for his "final video" on YouTube, someone else re-upped it with a lulzy description.
Was gonna add this but I felt bad
Quote from: Bloufo on 02/22/2015, 01:49 AMAdd Gamester 81 to the list. In fact put him near the top.
another guy that just seems to collect for the sake of collecting without knowning much about the actual games. weird
Besides him just seeming like the king of all collectards instead of an actual gamer, it bugs me he reviews stuff you can buy (and sometimes ONLY buy) from the same company whose commercial runs in front of his vids. I don't know if he's unbiased or not, but once you're making money off of some stuff, you should probably recuse yourself from reviewing said stuff IMO.
I breathlessly await the awesome reviews for Sydney Hunter. 10/10/10/10 GOTY!
Quote from: esteban on 02/23/2015, 05:22 PMJames+Mike suck.
Oh god yes! Mike. Man Mike is that one guy who wants to be popular so he just comes off more vulgar annoying and "what ever" approach to life so he gets his 15 seconds of fame.
Problem is he comes off as the lackey of the person everyone else came to hangout with and we only put up with it because the fun guy hasn't ditched you yet.
I get he was around for along time usually helping with the videos and playing the part of some costumed so and so. But his personality just brings down what I like in any AVGN video.
Quote from: Medic_wheat on 02/23/2015, 09:12 PMBut his personality just brings down what I like in any AVGN video.
I don't mind his personality so much, but he just doesn't seem to click so well with James, atleast on video. Mike can be something of an asshole when playing games, while James is more aloof while trying to force some comedy. He doesn't respond to Mike's banter very well.
Either way I'd like to play games with the guys
Sometimes Mike sounds a little knobby and seems like he forgets he's now on the internet, and anything doofy he says is out there forever.
I kinda chuckle when he tries excusing a fuckup while playing.
Just admit it, you fucked up.
Just watched the newest Metal Jesus on shooters and it was pretty bad:
http://youtu.be/lsjgVN47XEc
They have PC Engine games mixed in with TG16 games and dont mention that you cannot actually play them without a convertor or region switch.
He also couldn't remember 100% if the TG16 controller has turbo switches so he must not actually use his much.
I normally enjoy most of his episodes, but this one was just plain bad. The "more knowledgeable" guest he had with him didn't seem to know jack crap ](*,)
Just came by to basically say the same. But this isn't really Metal Jesus, who doesn't know many of these games (as he admits up front).
Quote from: esteban on 02/23/2015, 05:22 PMJames+Mike suck.
Mike is a rat looking whiney bitch. I love how fast he gets nerd rage.
Quote from: mickcris on 02/27/2015, 09:40 AMHe also couldn't remember 100% if the TG16 controller has turbo switches so he must not actually use his much.
Isn't this considered a defining feature of the console? Before I got into pce/tg16 I always thought of it as the console with stock turbo controllers. I mean it's the turbo-grafx ffs.
Quote from: mickcris on 02/27/2015, 09:40 AMJust watched the newest Metal Jesus on shooters and it was pretty bad:
They have PC Engine games mixed in with TG16 games and dont mention that you cannot actually play them without a convertor or region switch.
He also couldn't remember 100% if the TG16 controller has turbo switches so he must not actually use his much.
These guys crack me up. This Carlos character is a TG-16 guru? Really?
Some of my favorite comments:
Blazing Lazers is based off the Japanese movie Gunhed, I didn't know that.
Seriously!? The game is fucking called Gunhed in Japan.
China Warrior is like Double Dragon.
China Warrior is nothing like DD douche. Try Kung Fu or Vigilante.
Its so Zen like....
What the hell does that even mean in relation to a shooter game?
I'm Zen-ing so hard rite naow
He also seems to have a hard-on for big sprites.
Quote from: Medic_wheat on 02/23/2015, 09:12 PMProblem is he comes off as the lackey of the person everyone else came to hangout with and we only put up with it because the fun guy hasn't ditched you yet.
Yup. The guy continually trying too hard.
Feels like he is searching for topics to make videos on and doesn't have much knowledge on the topic. The videos are much better when he sticks to what he knows!
Quote from: Medic_wheat on 02/23/2015, 09:12 PMQuote from: esteban on 02/23/2015, 05:22 PMJames+Mike suck.
Oh god yes! Mike. Man Mike is that one guy who wants to be popular so he just comes off more vulgar annoying and "what ever" approach to life so he gets his 15 seconds of fame.
Problem is he comes off as the lackey of the person everyone else came to hangout with and we only put up with it because the fun guy hasn't ditched you yet.
I get he was around for along time usually helping with the videos and playing the part of some costumed so and so. But his personality just brings down what I like in any AVGN video.
Thank you, yes. We agree on all points. :)
Quote from: guest on 02/27/2015, 10:21 AMQuote from: mickcris on 02/27/2015, 09:40 AMJust watched the newest Metal Jesus on shooters and it was pretty bad:
They have PC Engine games mixed in with TG16 games and dont mention that you cannot actually play them without a convertor or region switch.
He also couldn't remember 100% if the TG16 controller has turbo switches so he must not actually use his much.
These guys crack me up. This Carlos character is a TG-16 guru? Really?
Some of my favorite comments:
Blazing Lazers is based off the Japanese movie Gunhed, I didn't know that.
Seriously!? The game is fucking called Gunhed in Japan.
China Warrior is like Double Dragon.
China Warrior is nothing like DD douche. Try Kung Fu or Vigilante.
Its so Zen like....
What the hell does that even mean in relation to a shooter game?
Hahahahahshashs. Yup.
I will forgive him for "Zen" because I do much better in games when I "become one with them" (achieving a state of ohmmmm) instead of being totally anxious/stressed out (and/or in a state of panic).
The only Metal Jesus video I want to watch is the one where he describes the games he traded all his teeth for. Then have cameos of these people who are now experts in dentistry only because they have his teeth.
"4/5 dentists with Metal Jesus teeth choose Playstation 2!"
I feel like his newest Turbo video was a little better, though not much. I think the "guru" actually tried a little more than 1% this time. Video still eats shit compared to what any real OBEY enthusiast could accomplish, but eh, it's at least something. Thanks once again Metal Christian, for raising Turbo prices even more. lol
*sighs*
I think the video is pretty bad. I found it particularly grating when they'd talk about some feature of a game with words but not bother showing me said feature at all. It made the whole thing feel like zero effort was put forth and that the videos were very dialed in.
"While I like shooters, I'm not good at them and I get frustrated easily" ...yeah, what I'm hearing hear is that you dislike shooters.
Quote from: seieienbu on 03/01/2015, 04:23 AMI think the video is pretty bad. I found it particularly grating when they'd talk about some feature of a game with words but not bother showing me said feature at all. It made the whole thing feel like zero effort was put forth and that the videos were very dialed in.
"While I like shooters, I'm not good at them and I get frustrated easily" ...yeah, what I'm hearing hear is that you dislike shooters.
What I'm seeing is that he dislikes chraisma more.
Normally I'd fix a grammatical error but I didn't see it until it was quoted.
...the shame.
Quote from: seieienbu on 03/01/2015, 06:01 AMNormely id ficks a gramatical erroar butt i didnt sea it untill it was cuoted.
...the shame.
Quote from: seieienbu on 03/01/2015, 04:23 AM"While I like shooters, I'm not good at them and I get frustrated easily" .
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Quote from: guest on 02/27/2015, 10:21 AMQuote from: mickcris on 02/27/2015, 09:40 AMJust watched the newest Metal Jesus on shooters and it was pretty bad:
They have PC Engine games mixed in with TG16 games and dont mention that you cannot actually play them without a convertor or region switch.
He also couldn't remember 100% if the TG16 controller has turbo switches so he must not actually use his much.
These guys crack me up. This Carlos character is a TG-16 guru? Really?
Some of my favorite comments:
Blazing Lazers is based off the Japanese movie Gunhed, I didn't know that.
Seriously!? The game is fucking called Gunhed in Japan.
China Warrior is like Double Dragon.
China Warrior is nothing like DD douche. Try Kung Fu or Vigilante.
Its so Zen like....
What the hell does that even mean in relation to a shooter game?
oh god. is that carlos guy even a tg guru or does he just play one in the videos? havent seen the video yet but something tells me itll be bad
He is visibly reading everything off a piece of paper. My guess is a wiki print out.
Quote from: slinkyturd on 03/02/2015, 02:30 AMHe is visibly reading everything off a piece of paper. My guess is a wiki print out.
Yes, he literally has notes.
However, if he didn't have notes, I fear that the video would have been unwatchable.
Although some found the video unwatchable as-is.
Well to be honest he whole guru things seemed more younger in check jest then actually seeming him as an expert.
Hell for all we know he could litterly be the only person he knows who plays the TG-16 apart from himself.
man himself having some exposed to the TG-16 but seeminly uninterested in it apart from the few games he has obtained.
Quote from: Medic_wheat on 03/02/2015, 01:10 PMWell to be honest he whole guru things seemed more younger in check jest then actually seeming him as an expert.
Hell for all we know he could litterly literally be the only person he knows who plays the TG-16 apart from himself.
man himself having some exposed to the TG-16 but seeminly uninterested in it apart from the few games he has obtained.
In the land of the blind, the man with one eye is king.
Quote from: HailingTheThings on 03/02/2015, 05:31 PMQuote from: Medic_wheat on 03/02/2015, 01:10 PMWell to be honest he whole guru things seemed more younger in check jest then actually seeming him as an expert.
Hell for all we know he could litterly literally be the only person he knows who plays the TG-16 apart from himself.
man himself having some exposed to the TG-16 but seeminly uninterested in it apart from the few games he has obtained.
In the land of the blind, the man with one eye is king.
Thanks!
i didnt really dig the video. i didnt like how he had notes that he was reading from. if he really was a "guru" he wouldn't need notes and be able to talk about the game off the top of his head. I'm sure as hell no guru on turbo, hell i've only been a turbo owner for 2 years and a duo r owner for less than a year but maybe, just maybe, i may know a tiny bit more about turbo than carlos. They should have also named the title best turbografx/ pc engine shooter since games like coryoon and salamander were never released in the u.s. sadly
"AirZonk also has companion missles"
FUCK THIS.
Fuck Metal Jesus and people like him. These guys are a dime a dozen on Youtube and are responsible for a large part of all the misinformation about retro consoles that goes around. I'm sure he has good intentions but the content is just not worth watching. I'll stick with AVGN, Game Sack, and JonTron, thanks.
ad revenue
that's all I see
Quote from: cr8zykuban0 on 03/03/2015, 03:25 AMi didnt really dig the video. i didnt like how he had notes that he was reading from. if he really was a "guru" he wouldn't need notes and be able to talk about the game off the top of his head. I'm sure as hell no guru on turbo, hell i've only been a turbo owner for 2 years and a duo r owner for less than a year but maybe, just maybe, i may know a tiny bit more about turbo than carlos.
Even if you're not a guru, just do your homework before you show up for the shoot. You don't have to be a guru to pass yourself off as one, especially in a non-interactive format like a YouTube video. It's not like he had to ask questions from a live studio audience. He literally had to show up and act like he knew about a handful of games. I don't understand why Metal Jesus felt the need to bring him on the show in the first place. I do YouTube shows where I feature games that I didn't previously know a lot about. I just play the shit out of them and read about their history. It's not exactly a mentally demanding thing to do, it just takes preparation.
Quotead revenue
that's all I see
I really wonder what some of these guys make in ad revenue. It must be a sliding scale. I know how much I make, and if I extrapolate it out based on the number of views that these guys have compared to what I have (which is orders of magnitude less) it still ain't that much money. Unfortunately it seems like the first rule of YouTube ad revenue is that you don't talk about YouTube ad revenue. Which I think is because we all assume that these guys are making more than they actually are, and they obviously don't want to admit it (and I wouldn't blame them.)
Edit 2: Maybe I'm wrong. Metal Jesus' most watched video is a top 10 (lol) of PSX/PS2 games, which got about 750,000 views. If I take that and mutliply it by the per-view amount of money that my top-viewed video has, then he would have made almost $1200 on that vid. In case anyone is wondering, my top-viewed video has made me $9.40 so far. Retirement, here I come.
$9.40.
Wasn't aware of this was your youtube channel jibba, I'm pretty sure I've visited it before for the operation logic bomb review. I'll be checking out the rest soon for sure. Should post some more OBEY reviews and share them here !
Quote from: poponon on 03/03/2015, 03:51 PMWasn't aware of this was your youtube channel jibba, I'm pretty sure I've visited it before for the operation logic bomb review. I'll be checking out the rest soon for sure. Should post some more OBEY reviews and share them here !
Yeah Operation Logic Bomb was one of my earlier videos. Fun game though. I had never heard of it when I bought it, but it's definitely a keeper. Thanks for watching.
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 03/03/2015, 04:30 PMYeah Operation Logic Bomb was one of my earlier videos. Fun game though. I had never heard of it when I bought it, but it's definitely a keeper. Thanks for watching.
I usually don't pay attention to people's sigs, so I didn't know that was your channel either. Let's give it a quick once over.
No pickups videos.
No "Yo! Look at all my shit!" videos.
No Loot Box or Crap Box or whatever it is called unboxings.
No thumbnails of you making a goofy face for no reason at all.
No "Let's Play" videos of you screaming like a little girl at screen savers like Five Nights at Freddy Got Fingered.
No Mine Craft videos.
You actually talk about the games, instead of using the games to trick people into watching your videos and then only talking about yourself.
Talk about doing it
completely fucking wrong. Now you know why you are only clocking $9.40. :D (Will sub later O:))
I suggest you to check out Retro Revenge https://www.youtube.com/user/RetroRevenge2014 (https://www.youtube.com/user/RetroRevenge2014)
It's all about the fun. My favorite episode was NES Soccer.
This thread is messed up. You guys will be losing your collective shit over the Metal Jesus episode that will be posted on April 3rd. You will all go fucking nuts. I absolutely cannot wait. And no, there's no reference to this forum or any of that in there. He's not a member of this forum so he couldn't even view this thread if he wanted to.
As for ad revenue, nothin' wrong with that. Any issues with TV shows making money? Movies? Radio? Didn't think so. Don't like, don't watch. If you like and watch, the easiest way to support is by letting the ads play. Turn your speakers down or something while they play. Anyway ads are definitely different per channel. You can't sell the same ads on, say, Prank vs Prank as you can on Game Sack. We have different audiences altogether. If Game Sack were to start doing Lets Plays, we'd fragment our audience and wouldn't be able to sell the same ads any more. If we did a video about our favorite Elvis albums, suddenly we'd have a lot of Elvis fans to cater to and selling ads would be even harder. It's really quite a science.
MJR seems like a guy who loves games, and he makes great videos. I've had him featured on my channel since its inception for a good reason; he's a genuine entertainer and his videos are well made and thoughtfully edited. Does it bother me if he's not an expert in every system that he reviews, or every game? Not one bit. It also doesn't bother me that he's relatively popular, because he actually deserves it.
What does "ruin my fath in humanity" is seeing people boast about trolling a youtuber in the first page of the thread without anyone even blinking. That is seriously pathetic.
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 03/04/2015, 04:26 PMAs for ad revenue, nothin' wrong with that.
It's not that ad revenue is bad, it's that many youtube shows seem to center their content around maximizing their ad revenue instead of providing a quality, entertaining show. It's like websites that split up a top ten list into 10 separate pages just so they can get 10 separate clicks, even if each page is just a photo or two and a three sentence message; it's a turn off.
Quote from: SmokeMonster on 03/04/2015, 04:43 PMWhat does "ruin my fath in humanity" is seeing people boast about trolling a youtuber in the first page of the thread without anyone even blinking. That is seriously pathetic.
Nobody blinked because nobody took slinky seriously. Duh.
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 03/04/2015, 04:26 PMThis thread is messed up. You guys will be losing your collective shit over the Metal Jesus episode that will be posted on April 3rd. You will all go fucking nuts. I absolutely cannot wait. And no, there's no reference to this forum or any of that in there. He's not a member of this forum so he couldn't even view this thread if he wanted to.
I predict one of two things. Either he got a copy of Magical Chase, and the "guru" Carlos comes back on so that they can say a few factually incorrect things read from a page pf notes, or he got Tobias' repro sets and is going to do a video review. My only question is how Joe factors in to all of this.
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 03/04/2015, 05:20 PMQuote from: Joe Redifer on 03/04/2015, 04:26 PMThis thread is messed up. You guys will be losing your collective shit over the Metal Jesus episode that will be posted on April 3rd. You will all go fucking nuts. I absolutely cannot wait. And no, there's no reference to this forum or any of that in there. He's not a member of this forum so he couldn't even view this thread if he wanted to.
I predict one of two things. Either he got a copy of Magical Chase, and the "guru" Carlos comes back on so that they can say a few factually incorrect things read from a page pf notes, or he got Tobias' repro sets and is going to do a video review. My only question is how Joe factors in to all of this.
DING DING DING - We have a winner!*
*I have no idea, but seems more probable than chaaaaasssssssesssssssss.
#Derp.
This thread and the Tobias thread ruin my faith in PCEFX.
Everybody should love metal jesus and every other youtube video maker ever. If you don't like him, you're an asshole.
Although some of the smack-talk in this thread is a little over the top , I think most is somewhat constructive criticism . It's just blown a little bit out of proportion for the sake of humor. It's fun to roast someone. Pansies need to lighten up a little
Quote from: poponon on 03/04/2015, 06:24 PMAlthough some of the smack-talk in this thread is a little over the top , I think most is somewhat constructive criticism . It's just blown a little bit out of proportion for the sake of humor. It's fun to roast someone. Pansies need to lighten up a little
The only thing that I thought was over-the-top was making fun of his personal appearance. It's fine to say that you don't like his videos, but making fun of his teeth is grade school playground shit.
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 03/04/2015, 06:35 PMThe only thing that I thought was over-the-top was making fun of his personal appearance. It's fine to say that you don't like his videos, but making fun of his teeth is grade school playground shit.
I can agree with you on that. Didn't see that post at first
As much as I rag on unboxing and pickup videos, in all honestly, I don't really have much of a problem with them. If people want to show off their crap, do it. When I get irritated is when people take a "look at all my shit" video and disguise it as an information / commentary video. Someone standing with a big pile of expensive crap and spitting a bunch of uninformed nonsense is usually a dead giveaway.
It's only a matter of time before most of these guys run out of things to talk about. There are only so many times the same Wikipedia level factoids about release dates and shit like that can be repackaged and re-uploaded before people realize they are watching different people say the same things. Hidden gems? Nothing is hidden anymore and it's been that way for a long time.
I want to make it clear that although metal guy is the topic of the thread, I am just talking about YT Gaming in general here.
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Quote from: poponon on 03/04/2015, 06:24 PMAlthough some of the smack-talk in this thread is a little over the top , I think most is somewhat constructive criticism . It's just blown a little bit out of proportion for the sake of humor. It's fun to roast someone. Pansies need to lighten up a little
Yeah, I agree. I think the "
OMG, he SO SO *RUINS* my faith in humanity!!!" is over the top in response to some gamer who makes Youtube videos that seems nice enough. I'd understand more if he was confrontational, flips people the bird in his videos, trash talks, like say AlphaOmegaSin or something. You start taking on political issues or something, it gets understandably divisive, ugly, etc. But yeah, I get that it's done for part humorous effect and so forth.
To me, he just looks annoying I guess and I just avoid his stuff. Personally, I like AVGN, GameSack and a little HappyConsoleGamer once in a blue moon.
Quote from: Sadler on 03/04/2015, 05:49 PMThis thread and the Tobias thread ruin my faith in PCEFX.
Hell yes.
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 03/03/2015, 02:38 PMI really wonder what some of these guys make in ad revenue. It must be a sliding scale. I know how much I make, and if I extrapolate it out based on the number of views that these guys have compared to what I have (which is orders of magnitude less) it still ain't that much money. Unfortunately it seems like the first rule of YouTube ad revenue is that you don't talk about YouTube ad revenue. Which I think is because we all assume that these guys are making more than they actually are, and they obviously don't want to admit it (and I wouldn't blame them.)
Edit 2: Maybe I'm wrong. Metal Jesus' most watched video is a top 10 (lol) of PSX/PS2 games, which got about 750,000 views. If I take that and mutliply it by the per-view amount of money that my top-viewed video has, then he would have made almost $1200 on that vid. In case anyone is wondering, my top-viewed video has made me $9.40 so far. Retirement, here I come.
It is a sliding scale. According to what I've read, it can go as high as $10 per 1000 views. I don't think MJR makes that much, but the average is still pretty high.
http://www.reelseo.com/youtube-stars-cpm/ (http://www.reelseo.com/youtube-stars-cpm/)
That shitty Rondo of Blood video, with Mike "Turbographic" Matei has 491k views. If we assume that the average is $7.60, as most articles are reporting, they made close to $4k off that one video. This seems like the average for one of their weekly "Let's Play" videos... Which, since they are doing it weekly, is around $200,000 per year. This doesn't even include the "nerd" videos, which draw millions of views.
Wow, if the average is $7.60 per 1,000 views then I must be doing something seriously wrong because I'm getting a fraction of that. Is it because I don't overlay ads? I only have the ad at the beginning of the video. Overlaid ads piss me off as a viewer so I'm not going to subject the people who watch my videos to that shit.
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 03/04/2015, 05:20 PMI predict one of two things. Either he got a copy of Magical Chase, and the "guru" Carlos comes back on so that they can say a few factually incorrect things read from a page pf notes, or he got Tobias' repro sets and is going to do a video review. My only question is how Joe factors in to all of this.
Hahaha! No to both. But I could see Reggie popping in with those repros some day. I don't factor into any of it, I just happen to know what he's up to. In fact he hadn't even shot the episode until last night, AFTER I posted about it. It's like I can see the future!
Quote from: Dark KoboldIt is a sliding scale. According to what I've read, it can go as high as $10 per 1000 views. I don't think MJR makes that much, but the average is still pretty high.
Just go to www.socialblade.com (http://www.socialblade.com) and type in a channel name to get an extremely rough estimate of what they make. Their figures aren't entirely accurate and they tend to go from the extremely low end to the high end. It's only a guess that doesn't really take into account what types of ads may play on a given channel.
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 03/05/2015, 04:03 PMQuote from: CGQuarterly on 03/04/2015, 05:20 PMI predict one of two things. Either he got a copy of Magical Chase, and the "guru" Carlos comes back on so that they can say a few factually incorrect things read from a page pf notes, or he got Tobias' repro sets and is going to do a video review. My only question is how Joe factors in to all of this.
Hahaha! No to both. But I could see Reggie popping in with those repros some day. I don't factor into any of it, I just happen to know what he's up to. In fact he hadn't even shot the episode until last night, AFTER I posted about it. It's like I can see the future!
Hmmm. I really can't imagine what he could do that would bother me that much. You just had me wondering what it could be that would make everyone lose their shit here. Maybe his top-10 rarest games? I'll just have to wait until next month.
It's not that I *hate* his videos or anything. I've watched a bunch of them. It's just obvious that he is following a formula in order to maximize ad revenue. The best channels do that, but don't make it obvious.
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 03/05/2015, 02:19 PMWow, if the average is $7.60 per 1,000 views then I must be doing something seriously wrong because I'm getting a fraction of that. Is it because I don't overlay ads? I only have the ad at the beginning of the video. Overlaid ads piss me off as a viewer so I'm not going to subject the people who watch my videos to that shit.
I think its based on your number of subscribers/anticipated views. You'd have to grow your viewer base quite a bit probably, to get closer to the average.
I do think that MJR makes more money and gets more views simply because he is constantly producing "content." He's got a video per week coming out, so that keeps him relevant and on people's youtube homepage. The downside, as has been hashed out repeatedly in this thread, is that the content suffers from a lack of quality in the information department. He's probably far from doing this as a sole source of income, (i.e. he has a real job), so he doesn't spend much time researching or vetting his "gurus."
It seems like, in the Web 2.0 model (ugh, I feel dirty saying that) less actually isn't more... more is more.
Quote from: guest on 03/05/2015, 07:51 PMQuote from: CGQuarterly on 03/05/2015, 02:19 PMWow, if the average is $7.60 per 1,000 views then I must be doing something seriously wrong because I'm getting a fraction of that. Is it because I don't overlay ads? I only have the ad at the beginning of the video. Overlaid ads piss me off as a viewer so I'm not going to subject the people who watch my videos to that shit.
I think its based on your number of subscribers/anticipated views. You'd have to grow your viewer base quite a bit probably, to get closer to the average.
I do think that MJR makes more money and gets more views simply because he is constantly producing "content." He's got a video per week coming out, so that keeps him relevant and on people's youtube homepage. The downside, as has been hashed out repeatedly in this thread, is that the content suffers from a lack of quality in the information department. He's probably far from doing this as a sole source of income, (i.e. he has a real job), so he doesn't spend much time researching or vetting his "gurus."
It seems like, in the Web 2.0 model (ugh, I feel dirty saying that) less actually isn't more... more is more.
I definitely agree that in my particular case, I do not upload videos often enough, which is mostly due to laziness (which for many reasons, I need to curb.) That's only part of the equation with YouTube, though. They place a heavy premium on "audience retention", which is a fancy way to say "how long do your viewers watch one of your videos?". If everyone is cutting out when its like halfway done, your retention numbers don't look that great, and YT doesn't promote your content as much. That's why "top 10" and "hidden gems" videos tend to do well. People keep watching to see what game will come up next. If you just make a video about Game X, the viewer knows that the entire video is covering that one topic, and they minute they get bored, they bail. As a viewer, I am plenty guilty of that myself.
Quote from: poponon on 03/04/2015, 06:48 PMQuote from: CGQuarterly on 03/04/2015, 06:35 PMThe only thing that I thought was over-the-top was making fun of his personal appearance. It's fine to say that you don't like his videos, but making fun of his teeth is grade school playground shit.
I can agree with you on that. Didn't see that post at first
Teeth are completely fair game. If he weren't in the video and was just a voice over I'd agree with both of you, but I have to stare at his goofy stupid troll face in every video. Looks are fair game.
Quote from: slinkyturd on 03/06/2015, 04:42 AMTeeth are completely fair game. If he weren't in the video and was just a voice over I'd agree with both of you, but I have to stare at his goofy stupid troll face in every video. Looks are fair game.
Constructive
Quote from: slinkyturd on 03/06/2015, 04:42 AMQuote from: poponon on 03/04/2015, 06:48 PMQuote from: CGQuarterly on 03/04/2015, 06:35 PMThe only thing that I thought was over-the-top was making fun of his personal appearance. It's fine to say that you don't like his videos, but making fun of his teeth is grade school playground shit.
I can agree with you on that. Didn't see that post at first
Teeth are completely fair game. If he weren't in the video and was just a voice over I'd agree with both of you, but I have to stare at his goofy stupid troll face in every video. Looks are fair game.
Agreed. If you put your mug in a youtube video, prepare for whatever is said. Nobody made you do it.
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 03/04/2015, 04:26 PMIf you like and watch, the easiest way to support is by letting the ads play. Turn your speakers down or something while they play.
Do channels not get ad revenue if you skip (where allowed) the commercial?
i personally enjoy his videos. he's not the most knowledgeable but that's youtube. anyone can make videos about whatever they want. doesnt matter really what they say. i watch him for the laugh factor. i get a kick out of the goofiness
Quote from: warpig227 on 03/06/2015, 01:28 PMi personally enjoy his videos. he's not the most knowledgeable but that's youtube. anyone can make videos about whatever they want. doesnt matter really what they say. i watch him for the laugh factor. i get a kick out of the goofiness
I like the goofiness, as well. I liked his earlier videos when it was him and Drunken Master Paul and it seemed more like they were making videos for the fun of it. Much like Game Sack (in this one sense only), they just looked like a couple of guys that I would like to hang out and play games with. I just think his channel jumped the shark when it became (ostensibly) his primary income stream. Although I think that was probably his goal from the start (not that there's anything wrong with that.)
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 03/05/2015, 11:18 PMI definitely agree that in my particular case, I do not upload videos often enough, which is mostly due to laziness (which for many reasons, I need to curb.) That's only part of the equation with YouTube, though. They place a heavy premium on "audience retention", which is a fancy way to say "how long do your viewers watch one of your videos?". If everyone is cutting out when its like halfway done, your retention numbers don't look that great, and YT doesn't promote your content as much. That's why "top 10" and "hidden gems" videos tend to do well. People keep watching to see what game will come up next. If you just make a video about Game X, the viewer knows that the entire video is covering that one topic, and they minute they get bored, they bail. As a viewer, I am plenty guilty of that myself.
That is interesting, I didn't know that about Youtube. I guess if that is the way the game is played...
I guess it comes down to what you are trying to achieve and what your priorities are. If you want to be a big Youtube name with a large revenue stream, then you probably have to play the game. You have to start making content faster and more often, advertise/spam your videos on forums, facebook, and etc. You'd also benefit by sucking-up to the big name Youtubers. You could get more subscriptions by showing up on shows like MJR, Game Chasers, AVGN, and Game Sack, then having them link to your channel in that video. You could focus on top-10 videos, which force full watches. That said, if you are just interested in producing quality content that appeals to a small audience, without regard to revenue or popularity, then none of that earlier bullshit matters.
As a total aside, I don't understand why the big twitch.tv streamers are as big as they are. I mainly watch speedrunners... People like CalebHart, Cosmo, and Cirno are not particularly compelling as individuals... yet these people are making a ton of cash as a streamer. Its even crazier for Heartstone or Darkstone or whatever it is streamers. They can be making $50k a month in donations...
Quote from: GoldenWheels on 03/06/2015, 11:14 AMQuote from: Joe Redifer on 03/04/2015, 04:26 PMIf you like and watch, the easiest way to support is by letting the ads play. Turn your speakers down or something while they play.
Do channels not get ad revenue if you skip (where allowed) the commercial?
I'm not sure. I'd think that they'd get at least something but not as much as if you let the entire ad play. But again I'm not really sure. I'll have to ask Ryan next time I think of it.
Anyone on here ever watch Continue? It's pretty fun, just three dudes playing retro games & deciding if they want to "continue" or "game over". The Metal Warriors and Sky Kid episodes are a couple of my faves. Smoke space weed everyday!
Quote from: VenomMacbeth on 03/06/2015, 08:23 PMAnyone on here ever watch Continue? It's pretty fun, just three dudes playing retro games & deciding if they want to "continue" or "game over". The Metal Warriors and Sky Kid episodes are a couple of my faves. Smoke space weed everyday!
ABS
Always Be Shootin!!!
That show is fun, been watching for years. Can't wait for their new show "Smart Guys" to air.
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 03/06/2015, 07:55 PMQuote from: GoldenWheels on 03/06/2015, 11:14 AMQuote from: Joe Redifer on 03/04/2015, 04:26 PMIf you like and watch, the easiest way to support is by letting the ads play. Turn your speakers down or something while they play.
Do channels not get ad revenue if you skip (where allowed) the commercial?
I'm not sure. I'd think that they'd get at least something but not as much as if you let the entire ad play. But again I'm not really sure. I'll have to ask Ryan next time I think of it.
I would be interested to know. I skip Youtube ads ALL the time and as soon as possible, but I figured the person was still getting some amount for just agreeing to show ads in their videos.
Quote from: guest on 03/07/2015, 09:51 PMQuote from: Joe Redifer on 03/06/2015, 07:55 PMQuote from: GoldenWheels on 03/06/2015, 11:14 AMQuote from: Joe Redifer on 03/04/2015, 04:26 PMIf you like and watch, the easiest way to support is by letting the ads play. Turn your speakers down or something while they play.
Do channels not get ad revenue if you skip (where allowed) the commercial?
I'm not sure. I'd think that they'd get at least something but not as much as if you let the entire ad play. But again I'm not really sure. I'll have to ask Ryan next time I think of it.
I would be interested to know. I skip Youtube ads ALL the time and as soon as possible, but I figured the person was still getting some amount for just agreeing to show ads in their videos.
Me too--if it's partial or no payment for skipping, I would do as Joe says, at least for the channels I really like...let it play and do something else for 60 secs.
I noticed that since we were talking about lukemorse a while ago, he hasn't posted any videos. Coincidence or is he a lurker???
If you're lurking - your vids are great, I especially enjoy your "living in japan" type videos. Was informative for someone interested in working in Japan
Quote from: poponon on 03/11/2015, 02:47 PMI noticed that since we were talking about lukemorse a while ago, he hasn't posted any videos. Coincidence or is he a lurker???
If you're lurking - your vids are great, I especially enjoy your "living in japan" type videos. Was informative for someone interested in working in Japan
I like Luke's videos, especially the repair vids. The latest two, 50 game intros strung together into one hour monstrosities, are complete Gar-bitch. I don't really care for his biking videos either.
One thing I am not a fan of with the "demonstration of a thing" videos, is when people hold the camera.
buy a goddamn tripod. this isn't a middle school movie project. It sucks when you show something off and it's wobbly or slanted.
Quote from: guest on 03/11/2015, 03:44 PMI like Luke's videos, especially the repair vids. The latest two, 50 game intros strung together into one hour monstrosities, are complete Gar-bitch. I don't really care for his biking videos either.
Yeah I agree those video's are pretty lackluster. I think if he wanted to upload the intro's to each game , he should have made each game a different video. I think it's more likely someone would be searching for a particular game intro rather than 100 @ a time
So I axed my network manager about skipping the ads. He said we get paid less if someone chooses to skip after 5 seconds or whatever it is. My network guy is reputable.
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 03/11/2015, 10:50 PMSo I axed my network manager about skipping the ads. He said we get paid less if someone chooses to skip after 5 seconds or whatever it is. My network guy is reputable.
Good to know Joe, on channels I actually know I want to support (the sack, TurboViews, etc) I'll let'em play and pick my nose or something in the meantime. Thanks.
Somehow I never skip those Game of War ones....wonder why.
Quote from: GoldenWheels on 03/12/2015, 09:53 AMQuote from: Joe Redifer on 03/11/2015, 10:50 PMSo I axed my network manager about skipping the ads. He said we get paid less if someone chooses to skip after 5 seconds or whatever it is. My network guy is reputable.
Good to know Joe, on channels I actually know I want to support (the sack, TurboViews, etc) I'll let'em play and pick my nose or something in the meantime. Thanks.
Somehow I never skip those Game of War ones....wonder why.
For me it is all about the mood I am in. That or if the ad is anyoing as Fu!
Most of the time I hit the skip button but other then that i let the ads play out.
Anyone know if you can you disable adblock for a specific youtube channel?
Quote from: poponon on 03/12/2015, 10:05 AMAnyone know if you can you disable adblock for a specific youtube channel?
Or you could just try using a different browser.
Quote from: esadajr on 03/12/2015, 11:15 AMOr you could just try using a different browser.
In that case I'd just turn off adblock for the video i'm watching. Just thought it'd be more convenient to do so for an entire channel at a time
Why not just turn off AdBlock on YouTube? Are there channels that you watch that are run by your enemies?
Good point. Sometimes the ads are s00000 long and unskippable though
Quote from: poponon on 03/12/2015, 12:39 PMGood point. Sometimes the ads are s00000 long and unskippable though
That's when you KNOW the youtuber is banking it :dance:
.12 cents a as baby!
Quote from: GoldenWheels on 03/12/2015, 09:53 AMQuote from: Joe Redifer on 03/11/2015, 10:50 PMSo I axed my network manager about skipping the ads. He said we get paid less if someone chooses to skip after 5 seconds or whatever it is. My network guy is reputable.
Good to know Joe, on channels I actually know I want to support (the sack, TurboViews, etc) I'll let'em play and pick my nose or something in the meantime. Thanks.
Somehow I never skip those Game of War ones....wonder why.
I had no clue this was the case, ill absolutely just hit mute for a few more seconds to help support.
or you could become a patron
Backing what Joe mentioned about skipping ads, here's some information by Jang about that topic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqcI5zRH0dk
By the way, this is one of the few guys that pumps out videos on a daily basis while remaining enjoyable to watch, when he is doing Lego reviews.
I watch his videos since when he did mainly RC car stuff on his channel UltimateRC some years ago.
I'm guessing that this is what Joe had mentioned previously.
http://youtu.be/vJwsJLRsapo
. . . gawdawmawt. :3
Quote from: HailingTheThings on 04/04/2015, 11:31 PMI'm guessing that this is what Joe had mentioned previously.
http://youtu.be/vJwsJLRsapo
. . . gawdawmawt. :3
Come on people! Help me fund my trip to Japan so I can hang out with Tats and ransack his collection! Give me money to help me find deals in japan so I can come back and show of shit I got with YOUR MONEY! Come on!
Quote from: geise on 04/05/2015, 01:35 PMQuote from: HailingTheThings on 04/04/2015, 11:31 PMI'm guessing that this is what Joe had mentioned previously.
http://youtu.be/vJwsJLRsapo
. . . gawdawmawt. :3
Come on people! Help me fund my trip to Japan so I can hang out with Tats and ransack his collection! Give me money to help me find deals in japan so I can come back and show of shit I got with YOUR MONEY! Come on!
Exactly, what a fuck tard. Reminds me off this asshole kid who begs for games on Craigs List. He said he will drive to you and remove them for free but he has no money. Just some obsessed kid who wants shit for free.
I could not watch the video once he started talking about his fans.
Holy shite.
This chinless idiot thinks he's getting 50K for a trip to get free shit and not work. I hope he gets the money then get's hit by a drunk driver in the middle of the night while crossing through the desert and they go up in flames.
Quote from: EvilEvoIX on 04/05/2015, 08:03 PMThis chinless idiot thinks he's getting 50K for a trip to get free shit and not work. I hope he gets the money then get's hit by a drunk driver in the middle of the night while crossing through the desert and they go up in flames.
I don't wish the man physical harm. I just hope no one donates, cause he's a moron.
Quote from: geise on 04/05/2015, 08:30 PMQuote from: EvilEvoIX on 04/05/2015, 08:03 PMThis chinless idiot thinks he's getting 50K for a trip to get free shit and not work. I hope he gets the money then get's hit by a drunk driver in the middle of the night while crossing through the desert and they go up in flames.
I don't wish the man physical harm. I just hope no one donates, cause he's a moron.
How about they get the money and never pay taxes on it and spend it all on NES carts and then the IRS goes after them for tax fraud and sells all their collection for nothing and their entire hobby is ruined?
Galam will donate. He loves the bitch and wants a T shirt. He'll prob get a call and postcard too lol!
Quote from: guest on 04/05/2015, 11:08 PMGalam will donate. He loves the bitch and wants a T shirt. He'll prob get a call and postcard too lol!
Have to get Metal Jesus ringtone to go with the personal call!
Quote from: geise on 04/05/2015, 01:35 PMQuote from: HailingTheThings on 04/04/2015, 11:31 PMI'm guessing that this is what Joe had mentioned previously.
http://youtu.be/vJwsJLRsapo
. . . gawdawmawt. :3
Come on people! Help me fund my trip to Japan so I can hang out with Tats and ransack his collection! Give me money to help me find deals in japan so I can come back and show of shit I got with YOUR MONEY! Come on!
geise, where can i donate?
i thought he should have saved up like everyone eles. i like the idea of him going coast to coast and go on a big gaming tour but 50k? damn, just save up or maybe sell some games to support the trip?
The guy is probably banking on his "fans" being the biggest idiots to walk the planet.
Takes some nerve to ask what he's asking and keep a straight face about it. I'll give him that.
Cant believe he has got almost $4k already. If it gets to $50k i may have to consider looking into this line of "work". lol
It is harder for me to defend this fool now that he has done this.
My heart is torn.
Screw this. Once my hair grows back I'm going to make a channel of my own. It will be terrible but who cares. Cant do it right now hair looks like a fuzzy tennis ball.
Also.
What is a military grade coin??
Quote from: wildfruit on 04/06/2015, 08:36 AMScrew this. Once my hair grows back I'm going to make a channel of my own. It will be terrible but who cares. Cant do it right now hair looks like a fuzzy tennis ball.
Also.
What is a military grade coin??
Maybe he meant a "challenge coin"? Because that is the only thing where coins are related to the military.
Quote from: wildfruit on 04/06/2015, 08:36 AMScrew this. Once my hair grows back I'm going to make a channel of my own. It will be terrible but who cares. Cant do it right now hair looks like a fuzzy tennis ball.
Also.
What is a military grade coin??
I didn't watch the whole video, but "military grade" *anything* simply means it can take a lot of abuse, correct? That's all I can think of.
ALSO: would we exploit our minor fame/celebrity? Some of us would. The temptation would be strong, I reckon.
I think the problem I have with a "tour" is that it is very different than asking for support of a tangible product (a book, or a ______, or a ______). A "tour" is about milking your minor celebrity. YOU DO NOT DO IT FOR THE "FANS", you do it for your own ego. Metal Jesus does NOT have better things to do.
A legitimate celebrity/person-with-a-career has better things to do with his/her time (other projects that pay more, or projects that are intrinsically rewarding...non-vanity projects).
Metal Jesus starting talking as if the tour was a "gift for his fans"...
DEAR LORD.
DEAR, DEAR LORD.
NOTE: For those not paying attention, this thread has come full-circle.
Quote from: esteban on 04/06/2015, 09:50 AMDEAR LORD.
DEAR, DEAR LORD.
Happy Easter! Metal Jesus has risen!
He must have caught a bunch of shit. He's already posted a follow up video, and posted his proposed "budget". His budget seems pretty inflated to me. He's estimating the RV will get 5mpg. WTH? Any motor made this century should get better gas mileage than that. 9K for an RV based on 30 day rental.... Hell it may be cheaper to rent... Newer model would prob get better gas mileage, you could scrap the breakdown budget, cause it should be covered by rental company, and insurance as well depending on the company.
Also, 1500 for 30 days RV park fees? Walmarts are everywhere, and allow you to use their lot for free.
Quote from: guest on 04/06/2015, 10:17 AMHe must have caught a bunch of shit. He's already posted a follow up video, and posted his proposed "budget". His budget seems pretty inflated to me. He's estimating the RV will get 5mpg. WTH? Any motor made this century should get better gas mileage than that. 9K for an RV based on 30 day rental.... Hell it may be cheaper to rent... Newer model would prob get better gas mileage, you could scrap the breakdown budget, cause it should be covered by rental company, and insurance as well depending on the company.
Also, 1500 for 30 days RV park fees? Walmarts are everywhere, and allow you to use their lot for free.
Or how about if you want to take a vacation, get a real job.. save up and then go when you can afford it!
Quote from: guest on 04/06/2015, 10:26 AMQuote from: guest on 04/06/2015, 10:17 AMHe must have caught a bunch of shit. He's already posted a follow up video, and posted his proposed "budget". His budget seems pretty inflated to me. He's estimating the RV will get 5mpg. WTH? Any motor made this century should get better gas mileage than that. 9K for an RV based on 30 day rental.... Hell it may be cheaper to rent... Newer model would prob get better gas mileage, you could scrap the breakdown budget, cause it should be covered by rental company, and insurance as well depending on the company.
Also, 1500 for 30 days RV park fees? Walmarts are everywhere, and allow you to use their lot for free.
Or how about if you want to take a vacation, get a real job.. save up and then go when you can afford it!
You must not have watched the follow up video, because he made it very clear that this is NOT a vacation. Its going to be a lot of work. A LOT of work. All the post cards that have to be mailed, the phone calls, retro game shopping.... Sounds like its gonna be hell. [emoji19]
Quote from: guest on 04/06/2015, 10:30 AMQuote from: guest on 04/06/2015, 10:26 AMQuote from: guest on 04/06/2015, 10:17 AMHe must have caught a bunch of shit. He's already posted a follow up video, and posted his proposed "budget". His budget seems pretty inflated to me. He's estimating the RV will get 5mpg. WTH? Any motor made this century should get better gas mileage than that. 9K for an RV based on 30 day rental.... Hell it may be cheaper to rent... Newer model would prob get better gas mileage, you could scrap the breakdown budget, cause it should be covered by rental company, and insurance as well depending on the company.
Also, 1500 for 30 days RV park fees? Walmarts are everywhere, and allow you to use their lot for free.
Or how about if you want to take a vacation, get a real job.. save up and then go when you can afford it!
You must not have watched the follow up video, because he made it very clear that this is NOT a vacation. Its going to be a lot of work. A LOT of work. All the post cards that have to be mailed, the phone calls, retro game shopping.... Sounds like its gonna be hell. [emoji19]
I stopped watching (the first video) when he said he came up with the idea while drinking beer and never even bothered going back..
NOW.. if esteban decided during a drunken beer session that he was going to e-beg for donations to continue Le Turbo Doodle I would be first in line to throw my money at him! :mrgreen:
Quote from: guest on 04/06/2015, 10:26 AMQuote from: guest on 04/06/2015, 10:17 AMHe must have caught a bunch of shit. He's already posted a follow up video, and posted his proposed "budget". His budget seems pretty inflated to me. He's estimating the RV will get 5mpg. WTH? Any motor made this century should get better gas mileage than that. 9K for an RV based on 30 day rental.... Hell it may be cheaper to rent... Newer model would prob get better gas mileage, you could scrap the breakdown budget, cause it should be covered by rental company, and insurance as well depending on the company.
Also, 1500 for 30 days RV park fees? Walmarts are everywhere, and allow you to use their lot for free.
Or how about if you want to take a vacation, get a real job.. save up and then go when you can afford it!
Hfahhahahhahhaa. OK, now things are getting interesting. I AM SO TEMPTED TO WATCH HIS FOLLOW-UP VIDEO.
I think I will.
sirhcman: I agree! I would never stop him from vacationing...but I have to save up my own damn money in order to do so. He's already fortunate to have folks sending him stuff.
UPDATE: You are too gracious, sirhcman. Thank you, but if I e-beg for donations I am going to be responsible and provide an itinerary and budget up-front:
ITINIERARY:
(1) Smile (day one, 2-3 minutes).
(2) Invest $35,000 in retirement fund (day one, 2-3 minutes).
(3) Travel to first stop of tour (fan service, 10+ minutes).
(4) Continue tour (days 2-30)
Ha! If this guy gets paid, I guess that says a lot about his fan base. :lol:
His cost breakdown is crap. Look up a RV rental on your own. I did and I came up with $3400-$4000 for a month of rental (depending on size of RV rented) plus $3400 for mileage (10000 miles worth); since rental includes repairs, mechanical prep (whatever the fuck that is), and insurance, that's roughly half what this douche has budgeted. His mileage budget is also suspect; it might be accurate for some old POS RV that he wants to buy (which would have value at the end of the trip), but any modern RV that he'd rent would get maybe 8 or 9 mpg. Lastly, who here spends anywhere near $50 a day on meals?
Quote from: guest on 04/06/2015, 11:21 AMHa! If this guy gets paid, I guess that says a lot about his fan base. [emoji38]
His cost breakdown is crap. Look up a RV rental on your own. I did and I came up with $3400-$4000 for a month of rental (depending on size of RV rented) plus $3400 for mileage (10000 miles worth); since rental includes repairs, mechanical prep (whatever the fuck that is), and insurance, that's roughly half what this douche has budgeted. His mileage budget is also suspect; it might be accurate for some old POS RV that he wants to buy (which would have value at the end of the trip), but any modern RV that he'd rent would get maybe 8 or 9 mpg. Lastly, who here spends anywhere near $50 a day on meals?
To add more to the shit pile... They are budgeting 1600 each for wage compensation for the month off. Now I have no clue what these people do, but it sounds as though MJ works in a professional environment based on his past with Sierra. So I would imagine he also gets paid leave. I have enough leave to take a month off, but I would still get my regular salary. This is so suspect. I hope to hell people don't fund this thing.
Quote from: guest on 04/06/2015, 10:26 AMQuote from: guest on 04/06/2015, 10:17 AMHe must have caught a bunch of shit. He's already posted a follow up video, and posted his proposed "budget". His budget seems pretty inflated to me. He's estimating the RV will get 5mpg. WTH? Any motor made this century should get better gas mileage than that. 9K for an RV based on 30 day rental.... Hell it may be cheaper to rent... Newer model would prob get better gas mileage, you could scrap the breakdown budget, cause it should be covered by rental company, and insurance as well depending on the company.
Also, 1500 for 30 days RV park fees? Walmarts are everywhere, and allow you to use their lot for free.
Or how about if you want to take a vacation, get a real job.. save up and then go when you can afford it!
exactly. im sure he makes enough money to save up. I do like watching his videos but Im not supporting this by any means. ill be surprised if he gets his 50k. or anywhere close to that
Quote from: guest on 04/06/2015, 11:21 AMHa! If this guy gets paid, I guess that says a lot about his fan base. :lol:
His cost breakdown is crap. Look up a RV rental on your own. I did and I came up with $3400-$4000 for a month of rental (depending on size of RV rented) plus $3400 for mileage (10000 miles worth); since rental includes repairs, mechanical prep (whatever the fuck that is), and insurance, that's roughly half what this douche has budgeted. His mileage budget is also suspect; it might be accurate for some old POS RV that he wants to buy (which would have value at the end of the trip), but any modern RV that he'd rent would get maybe 8 or 9 mpg. Lastly, who here spends anywhere near $50 a day on meals?
I could easily spend $500 on food a day. OF COURSE, I'd be very extravagant and indulge myself with ridiculous stuff and lots of alcohol. :)
IT'S FOR THE FANS.
for the fans.......more like taking money from the fans for his own benefit
Quote from: esteban on 04/06/2015, 11:51 AMI could easily spend $500 on food a day. OF COURSE, I'd be very extravagant and indulge myself with ridiculous stuff and lots of alcohol. :)
IT'S FOR THE FANS.
Why am I picturing esteban laying seductively on a velvet bed surrounded by hot women, eating grapes and washing it down with a giant chalice of wine? I guess its for the fans! :D
Quote from: guest on 04/06/2015, 12:41 PMQuote from: esteban on 04/06/2015, 11:51 AMI could easily spend $500 on food a day. OF COURSE, I'd be very extravagant and indulge myself with ridiculous stuff and lots of alcohol. :)
IT'S FOR THE FANS.
Why am I picturing esteban laying seductively on a velvet bed surrounded by hot women, eating grapes and washing it down with a giant chalice of wine? I guess its for the fans! :D
I am copying and pasting this into a new "fundme" proposal as we speak...
At least este is handsome
Just reading through this amusing thread and I totally agree on the views expressed regarding Metal Jesus, Pete Dorr, Hancock and especially Gamester 81. G81 comes off as a total douche. Every video he has is "Rare blahblahblah system EXTRA Rare!" when some of them are hardly quantifiable as rare. He always just shows the machine but rarely shows the consoles in action. And it is so obvious that he has zero interest in playing most of the crap in his collection, but he has it anyway because it's worth a few bucks.
I am totally against collecting for the sake of collecting. It's a waste and I hate it. I don't believe in owning anything I won't need/use simply because of perceived value. That is why I threw out all my old console boxes years ago :oops:
I don't get the Luke Morse hate though. Yes his repair methods are very unprofessional and he's a terrible hoarder, but he has introduced me to so many games I've never heard of and he's got a fun and entertaining personality.
I also enjoy Michael B the Game Genie, even if he sucks badly at games :mrgreen:
Ive watch some Gamester 81 rare console videos. I find it odd how he manhandles all his stuff like he doesn't give a shit. He also lots of times gives out misinformation about the stuff too.
Quote from: guest on 04/06/2015, 11:28 AMTo add more to the shit pile... They are budgeting 1600 each for wage compensation for the month off. Now I have no clue what these people do, but it sounds as though MJ works in a professional environment based on his past with Sierra. So I would imagine he also gets paid leave. I have enough leave to take a month off, but I would still get my regular salary. This is so suspect. I hope to hell people don't fund this thing.
Yarr, that too. To make matters worse, he's planning on making all sorts of videos out of it, so he'll make money off of advertising too (not that I think that'll amount to thousands of dollars).
The Luke Morse shit stems back from him choosing his hoarding games sound investments, over a life with his wife and kid. He made a drama out of it on his youtube channel. His priorities are all sorts of fucked up.
Quote from: PCEngineHell on 04/06/2015, 06:40 PMThe Luke Morse shit stems back from him choosing his hoarding games sound investments, over a life with his wife and kid. He made a drama out of it on his youtube channel. His priorities are all sorts of fucked up.
He still wears his wedding ring, so I assume they have reconciled. I guess the damage was done when he made that video. No going back now :shock:
Quote from: bozo55 on 04/06/2015, 06:44 PMQuote from: PCEngineHell on 04/06/2015, 06:40 PMThe Luke Morse shit stems back from him choosing his hoarding games sound investments, over a life with his wife and kid. He made a drama out of it on his youtube channel. His priorities are all sorts of fucked up.
He still wears his wedding ring, so I assume they have reconciled. I guess the damage was done when he made that video. No going back now :shock:
Maybe he wears it to get girls. Chicks dig a challenge. I hardly ever wear mine, don't like wearing jewellery, but when I do they're like flies round stink*. Yea that's what he's up to, sneaky sod.
* nb this may be a slight exaggeration
There are two phenomena associated with the internet that have always baffled me. One, is the sheer number of people willing to work for free. I'm not talking about labor of love kind of stuff. I am talking about people who will put insane amounts of time and effort into a project so someone else can get rich. For an example, many bloggers and wikipedia drones.
The second, is what we see unfolding here with Aluminum Jeebus. That is, there are scores of people from all economic levels who simply enjoy giving away money, even when it is obvious the person they are giving it to doesn't really "need it." It took the internet to make me realize we live in a world where a guy can ask people to pay for his month long party, and people would actually want to do that. It really is truly fascinating.
yeah, its like that potato salad kickstarter guy. He got $55K for that, so maybe its not so crazy to think that this campaign will actually get $50k.
Quote from: mickcris on 04/06/2015, 09:27 PMyeah, its like that potato salad kickstarter guy. He got $55K for that, so maybe its not so crazy to think that this campaign will actually get $50k.
Yes, but Poe Tae Toe Man did not ask for $50K+
He just benefitted from his solicitation going viral.
You are correct, MetalYeezus may get his goal (or more), but Yeezus had a very high goal from the onset.
PoeTaeToe just got lucky.
Quote from: esteban on 04/06/2015, 09:50 AMMetal Jesus starting talking as if the tour was a "gift for his fans"...
DEAR LORD.
DEAR, DEAR LORD.
HAHAHA! "Yay, I get to meet a giant gaming dork! We're gonna have a real good time hanging out together I just know it!"
Quote from: NightWolve on 04/07/2015, 02:23 AMQuote from: esteban on 04/06/2015, 09:50 AMMetal Jesus starting talking as if the tour was a "gift for his fans"...
DEAR LORD.
DEAR, DEAR LORD.
HAHAHA! "Yay, I get to meet a giant gaming dork! We're gonna have a real good time hanging out together I just know it!"
I can only imagine the look my wife would give me if these two bozos pulled up to our house in a game graffitied clunker RV. Ha! On second thought, that may be worth the price of the donation lol
Quote from: guest on 04/07/2015, 09:05 AMI can only imagine the look my wife would give me if these two bozos pulled up to our house in a game graffitied clunker RV. Ha! On second thought, that may be worth the price of the donation lol
I'd pay the price of donation to keep his nappy self AWAY from my house. :|
This turn of events doesn't upset me nearly as much as Joe suggested that it might. I just think it's funny, and this may be the point where his show jumps the shark.
Sooooo... Joe.... Does this mean you will be collaborating with MJ on a Denver stop for a special episode of Game Sack?
Quote from: guest on 04/07/2015, 01:07 PMSooooo... Joe.... Does this mean you will be collaborating with MJ on a Denver stop for a special episode of Game Sack?
Should be an entire Sack episode dedicated to them performing Rusty Ventures on each other. I would excite. :3
If he comes to Denver sure I'll shoot something with him (for his show). Nothing is planned. Someone offered to pay for the whole thing if he was allowed to tag along. Not sure of MJR responded to that or not.
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 04/07/2015, 06:01 PMIf he comes to Denver sure I'll shoot something with him (for his show). Nothing is planned. Someone offered to pay for the whole thing if he was allowed to tag along. Not sure of MJR responded to that or not.
I think you should do a MJR I Hate U episode where you and Dave punish his ass with shitty games. That is if you and Dave have shitty games [emoji3]
Quote from: guest on 04/07/2015, 07:04 PMQuote from: Joe Redifer on 04/07/2015, 06:01 PMIf he comes to Denver sure I'll shoot something with him (for his show). Nothing is planned. Someone offered to pay for the whole thing if he was allowed to tag along. Not sure of MJR responded to that or not.
I think you should do a MJR I Hate U episode where you and Dave punish his ass with shitty games. That is if you and Dave have shitty games [emoji3]
..or how about no episode with MJ on GameSack! Now that I can get behind!!
Quote from: guest on 04/07/2015, 07:24 PMQuote from: guest on 04/07/2015, 07:04 PMQuote from: Joe Redifer on 04/07/2015, 06:01 PMIf he comes to Denver sure I'll shoot something with him (for his show). Nothing is planned. Someone offered to pay for the whole thing if he was allowed to tag along. Not sure of MJR responded to that or not.
I think you should do a MJR I Hate U episode where you and Dave punish his ass with shitty games. That is if you and Dave have shitty games [emoji3]
..or how about no episode with MJ on GameSack! Now that I can get behind!!
I hear ya. But if they came to their city that would look pretty snobbish and elitist to not welcome the oafy dude. After all were a gaming community. Not to sound cliche.
Quote from: guest on 04/07/2015, 07:28 PMI hear ya. But if they came to their city that would look pretty snobbish and elitist to not welcome the oafy dude. After all were a gaming community. Not to sound cliche.
Am I missing something? Is MJ some sort of video game royalty? Should Joe and Dave be obligated to help this turkey because he has 100k+ subscribers? I don't know if they are friends with the guy or not but just because you are part of a gaming community doesn't obligate you to anything. Who cares what MJ or his followers think?
Quote from: guest on 04/07/2015, 07:35 PMQuote from: guest on 04/07/2015, 07:28 PMI hear ya. But if they came to their city that would look pretty snobbish and elitist to not welcome the oafy dude. After all were a gaming community. Not to sound cliche.
Am I missing something? Is MJ some sort of video game royalty? Should Joe and Dave be obligated to help this turkey because he has 100k+ subscribers? I don't know if they are friends with the guy or not but just because you are part of a gaming community doesn't obligate you to anything. Who cares what MJ or his followers think?
Well no I guess... I was raised with Southern hospitality. If you're from any other part of the states you dont understand.
OK I'm new to crowd funding. Do most of the donations come in early or late? I would guess early, 'cause all of your devoted fans would donate up front. If that's the case it doesn't bode well for MJ. At the current average per day he won't meet the goal.
Quote from: guest on 04/07/2015, 07:41 PMWell no I guess... I was raised with Southern hospitality. If you're from any other part of the states you dont understand.
I am from the midwest, I understand hospitality and being respectful to people. What I don't understand e-begging and being a moocher and thinking everyone owes you something
Quote from: guest on 04/07/2015, 09:06 PMQuote from: guest on 04/07/2015, 07:41 PMWell no I guess... I was raised with Southern hospitality. If you're from any other part of the states you dont understand.
I am from the midwest, I understand hospitality and being respectful to people. What I don't understand e-begging and being a moocher
I don't understand ebegging and mooching either, but the guys gonna do what he wants to do. That doesn't mean you have to snub him if he comes to your city. Especially if you're a fellow YouTube personality. Joe obviously talks to the guy, how else would he know about the campaign ahead of time.
Anyhoo... I'm sure you Midwesterners are kind folk, but its different down south. Trust me. That's why so many peeps are flocking to the south from the rest of the States.
Quote from: guest on 04/07/2015, 09:13 PMQuote from: guest on 04/07/2015, 09:06 PMQuote from: guest on 04/07/2015, 07:41 PMWell no I guess... I was raised with Southern hospitality. If you're from any other part of the states you dont understand.
I am from the midwest, I understand hospitality and being respectful to people. What I don't understand e-begging and being a moocher
I don't understand ebegging and mooching either, but the guys gonna do what he wants to do. That doesn't mean you have to snub him if he comes to your city. Especially if you're a fellow YouTube personality. Joe obviously talks to the guy, how else would he know about the campaign ahead of time.
Anyhoo... I'm sure you Midwesterners are kind folk, but its different down south. Trust me. That's why so many peeps are flocking to the south from the rest of the States.
I said I didn't know if they were friends with him or not, if they are and want him on GS or vice versa that's great but I won't watch it
Quote from: guest on 04/07/2015, 09:17 PMQuote from: guest on 04/07/2015, 09:13 PMQuote from: guest on 04/07/2015, 09:06 PMQuote from: guest on 04/07/2015, 07:41 PMWell no I guess... I was raised with Southern hospitality. If you're from any other part of the states you dont understand.
I am from the midwest, I understand hospitality and being respectful to people. What I don't understand e-begging and being a moocher
I don't understand ebegging and mooching either, but the guys gonna do what he wants to do. That doesn't mean you have to snub him if he comes to your city. Especially if you're a fellow YouTube personality. Joe obviously talks to the guy, how else would he know about the campaign ahead of time.
Anyhoo... I'm sure you Midwesterners are kind folk, but its different down south. Trust me. That's why so many peeps are flocking to the south from the rest of the States.
I said I didn't know if they were friends with him or not, if they are and want him on GS or vice versa that's great but I won't watch it
C'mon now. I'm no MJ fan, check earlier posts in this thread, but that's kinda childish. Its your choice though, and if that's how you feel so be it.
Quote from: guest on 02/18/2015, 11:55 PM(https://web.archive.org/web/20190510210420im_/https://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/misc/mjr1.jpg)
Please.. Puh-leeeez!!!! Get this image out my head!!!
DEAR LORD
I think one of his fans sent him that earthbound for free too.
Quote from: mickcris on 04/08/2015, 12:00 AMI think one of his fans sent him that earthbound for free too.
IT WAS GIFT FROM A FAN.
DEAR LORD.
Quote from: guest on 04/07/2015, 09:20 PMC'mon now. I'm no MJ fan, check earlier posts in this thread, but that's kinda childish. Its your choice though, and if that's how you feel so be it.
In what way is it childish to skip watching someone you know you don't like? Would you prefer that he watch it, hate it, then run around and bitch about how bad it was?
Quote from: guest on 04/08/2015, 09:53 AMQuote from: guest on 04/07/2015, 09:20 PMC'mon now. I'm no MJ fan, check earlier posts in this thread, but that's kinda childish. Its your choice though, and if that's how you feel so be it.
In what way is it childish to skip watching someone you know you don't like? Would you prefer that he watch it, hate it, then run around and bitch about how bad it was?
Well most folks here support and enjoy Game sack. So I do feel its silly to boycott an episode of game sack because it features MJ. That's just my opinion. You don't have to share it.
Quote from: guest on 04/07/2015, 09:13 PMAnyhoo... I'm sure you Midwesterners are kind folk, but its different down south. Trust me. That's why so many peeps are flocking to the south from the rest of the States.
I'm born & raised Carolinian, and I have to say that this is one of the biggest loads of bull I've ever read. I'm pretty sure the "hospitality" you mentioned is the only thing the South has going for it, and even that's reserved only for white folks.
In regards to Metal Jesus, if he were to ask to be included in an episode of Game Sack, it
would be kind of rude to refuse...but to ignore, or at the very least not go out of your way to make it happen...that would be preferable. Keep Jesus out of the Sack!
Quote from: VenomMacbeth on 04/08/2015, 10:30 AMQuote from: guest on 04/07/2015, 09:13 PMAnyhoo... I'm sure you Midwesterners are kind folk, but its different down south. Trust me. That's why so many peeps are flocking to the south from the rest of the States.
I'm born & raised Carolinian, and I have to say that this is one of the biggest loads of bull I've ever read. I'm pretty sure the "hospitality" you mentioned is the only thing the South has going for it, and even that's reserved only for white folks.
In regards to Metal Jesus, if he were to ask to be included in an episode of Game Sack, it would be kind of rude to refuse...but to ignore, or at the very least not go out of your way to make it happen...that would be preferable. Keep Jesus out of the Sack!
To each his own. I'd rather live in the South East vs any other region I've ever visited.
If you grew up in a super rural impoverished part of the state, or urban poverty center for that matter, yeah your experience probably sucked. But it would suck to grow up in poverty anywhere.
You can find shit hole areas in any state, but the Carolina's offer many great cities and towns to live in.
Hey, your JESUS is in my sack.
Your sack is on my JESUS.
Comrades,
Keep JESUS out my SACK.
Quote from: esteban on 04/08/2015, 02:17 PMHey, your JESUS is in my sack.
Your sack is on my JESUS.
Comrades,
Keep JESUS out my SACK.
I agree. Game Sack is YouTube's best kept secret and I wouldn't want them to sell their souls to Metal Jesus just for a little bit more publicity. Besides, MJ as a gamer does not share much in common with Joe. Joe was always a console gamer while MJ was predominantly a PC gamer. Joe collects good games. MJ takes whatever crap he can get his hands on. Joe actually plays and goes in depth with the games, providing detailed insight. MJ plays the games on a more casual basis and says "huh" way too much.
But I'd like to see GameSack mention MJR in a YouTube episode called "YouTubers We Don't Want to Talk About" :lol:
It would be better for us to be on his channel because he has more subscribers. Even if we got AVGN in one of our episodes it wouldn't make a difference. But if we got on an AVGN episode... well just look at what happened to stupid Pat.
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 04/08/2015, 08:28 PMIt would be better for us to be on his channel because he has more subscribers. Even if we got AVGN in one of our episodes it wouldn't make a difference. But if we got on an AVGN episode... well just look at what happened to stupid Pat.
Yeah but you don't own a gray and gold NES world champ cart.
Unless you in which case I must plan my trip to your house and loot the hell out of it for real reall not for play play
His campaign isn't going so well. $4900 so far. He needs to double his average daily contribution to meet his goal.
So what happens to the money already donated if the target amount is not met?
A shortened trip schedule, or he just pockets the money and sends out a bunch of stickers, t-shirts, "military grade coins", etc, as a type of consolation.
Looks like the MJR tour is cancelled. The videos he posted on it are gone.
Edit: Crowdfunding the tour is cancelled. He's looking to get sponsored instead now.
Quote from: bozo55 on 04/09/2015, 03:01 PMLooks like the MJR tour is cancelled. The videos he posted on it are gone.
Edit: Crowdfunding the tour is cancelled. He's looking to get sponsored instead now.
Hahahahahshashs. Are you teasing us?
I still didn't watch the second video...maybe someone else will upload it?
Quote from: esteban on 04/09/2015, 04:42 PMQuote from: bozo55 on 04/09/2015, 03:01 PMLooks like the MJR tour is cancelled. The videos he posted on it are gone.
Edit: Crowdfunding the tour is cancelled. He's looking to get sponsored instead now.
Hahahahahshashs. Are you teasing us?
I still didn't watch the second video...maybe someone else will upload it?
No point in watching the second video. He pretty much just says "Hey, I decided to grow facial hair. How does it look?" And then some stuff about why he needs all the monies. Pretty bleh.
Quote from: HailingTheThings on 04/09/2015, 05:17 PMHe pretty much just says "Hey, I decided to grow facial hair. How does it look?"
"A beard is never a substitute for a jawline, no matter how you trim it"
-Henchman #24
Quote from: bozo55 on 04/09/2015, 03:01 PMLooks like the MJR tour is cancelled. The videos he posted on it are gone.
Edit: Crowdfunding the tour is cancelled. He's looking to get sponsored instead now.
Ha Haaaaa! Victory! Fuck you Metal Jeebus! [emoji90] [emoji90] [emoji90] [emoji90] [emoji90] [emoji90] [emoji90] [emoji90]
This guy's top ten games video is the worst thing I've ever seen.
Quote from: wildfruit on 04/09/2015, 07:35 PMThis guy's top ten games video is the worst thing I've ever seen.
His Sega Saturn "hidden gems" and "top ten" are a joke too
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 04/08/2015, 08:28 PMIt would be better for us to be on his channel because he has more subscribers. Even if we got AVGN in one of our episodes it wouldn't make a difference. But if we got on an AVGN episode... well just look at what happened to stupid Pat.
Stupid Pat is a curious statement; I was under the assumption most people love that guy. He's a local to my area. I see him from time to time at garage sales/swap meets in my area. I also have been to the store Luna Games, the place that his friend who does podcasts with him works. Luna is the only retro videogame store in my direct area, I don't want to speak negatively of it (or them) but I am not a fan. I rarely find things at swap meets/thrift stores, but each time I've seen him he has bags full of items, so I thought my distaste for them was due to local bitterness hahah
MJR I've spoken with in the Atari Age chat a few times, and he seemed OK if not aloof. He was not responsive when I suggested to him to check out a game I worked on for a "hidden gems" episode. I didn't have distaste for him until he got the Earthbound for free, and then this fundraiser. I have no issue with a guy receiving a gift from a friend or admirer, but I don't think it does anyone a favor bragging about the conquest of free acquisition of difficult and sought after items, but to each his own and there is obviously a audience for that. I think that was his mindset "well, someone gave me a [overly valued game, say $300,] maybe I can get them to give me money directly to do this, what should the theme be..."
However, I just have a lot of issues with people asking for funding without showing a certain amount of initiative to begin with. I'll back a project where they have a prototype but need funding for full development or manufacturing in bulk, but to just fund someones "idea" is such a difficult to support proposition. I guess I am just too much of a tightwad.
I wish him the best, and actually hope this gets funded and he and his "fans" enjoy themselves, but it's not something I can get behind, support, or be involved with.
Quote from: Gredler on 04/09/2015, 09:04 PMMJR I've spoken with in the Atari Age chat a few times, and he seemed OK if not aloof. He was not responsive when I suggested to him to check out a game I worked on for a "hidden gems" episode.
Maybe if you would have donated some games to his collection you would have had luck getting more of a response out of him.
Quote from: guest on 04/09/2015, 09:25 PMQuote from: Gredler on 04/09/2015, 09:04 PMMJR I've spoken with in the Atari Age chat a few times, and he seemed OK if not aloof. He was not responsive when I suggested to him to check out a game I worked on for a "hidden gems" episode.
Maybe if you would have donated some games to his collection you would have had luck getting more of a response out of him.
Hahaahhahahahahahahaha.
Quote from: Gredler on 04/09/2015, 09:04 PMQuote from: Joe Redifer on 04/08/2015, 08:28 PMIt would be better for us to be on his channel because he has more subscribers. Even if we got AVGN in one of our episodes it wouldn't make a difference. But if we got on an AVGN episode... well just look at what happened to stupid Pat.
Stupid Pat is a curious statement; I was under the assumption most people love that guy. He's a local to my area. I see him from time to time at garage sales/swap meets in my area. I also have been to the store Luna Games, the place that his friend who does podcasts with him works. Luna is the only retro videogame store in my direct area, I don't want to speak negatively of it (or them) but I am not a fan. I rarely find things at swap meets/thrift stores, but each time I've seen him he has bags full of items, so I thought my distaste for them was due to local bitterness hahah
MJR I've spoken with in the Atari Age chat a few times, and he seemed OK if not aloof. He was not responsive when I suggested to him to check out a game I worked on for a "hidden gems" episode. I didn't have distaste for him until he got the Earthbound for free, and then this fundraiser. I have no issue with a guy receiving a gift from a friend or admirer, but I don't think it does anyone a favor bragging about the conquest of free acquisition of difficult and sought after items, but to each his own and there is obviously a audience for that. I think that was his mindset "well, someone gave me a [overly valued game, say $300,] maybe I can get them to give me money directly to do this, what should the theme be..."
However, I just have a lot of issues with people asking for funding without showing a certain amount of initiative to begin with. I'll back a project where they have a prototype but need funding for full development or manufacturing in bulk, but to just fund someones "idea" is such a difficult to support proposition. I guess I am just too much of a tightwad.
I wish him the best, and actually hope this gets funded and he and his "fans" enjoy themselves, but it's not something I can get behind, support, or be involved with.
If not aloof? He is definitely aloof!! [emoji38]
Pat's not so bad but he's too much of a dork (even when not in character) and it feels too forced when he attempts to do comedy on his videos. I'd rather watch anything else.
Quote from: VenomMacbeth on 04/09/2015, 05:22 PMQuote from: HailingTheThings on 04/09/2015, 05:17 PMHe pretty much just says "Hey, I decided to grow facial hair. How does it look?"
"A beard is never a substitute for a jawline, no matter how you trim it"
-Henchman #24
"Man, I can't believe that's what you look like under your costume. Hilarious! You're like Seinfeld with a unibrow. Who knew?"
(https://i.imgur.com/sQx5HFa.gif)
I get offers ALL THE TIME to cover indie stuff. Generally I'm not interested unless it's for retro consoles, but it's usually for PC. But anyway those offers come in so often that's it's easy to just zone out when they do.
You know what show has a similar structure and execution to Pat the NES Punk episodes? Irate Gamer. Seriously. The only thing is that Irate Gamer uses more green screen effects. Both of their shows remind me of the other for some reason.
Quote from: guest on 04/09/2015, 09:47 PMPat's not so bad but he's too much of a dork (even when not in character) and it feels too forced when he attempts to do comedy on his videos. I'd rather watch anything else.
Spot on. I agree. I also hate how he splits his podcast into topics/questions now. Its solely so its easier for him to keep daily content and generate views. It's [emoji243] [emoji90]
The problem with pumping out so much stuff is that videos tend to drown in everything else. So if a Pat episode comes out you may never see it hidden amongst all of the podcast episodes and whatnot. Sometimes too much is just too much. The amount of views he has on each of his videos stays relatively low as a result. Ideally he should release maybe 3 times a week, max. Game Sack would kick all sorts of ass if we released once a week instead of once every two weeks, but Dave has decided that he needs to be employed and actually make money and survive and stuff.
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 04/10/2015, 01:12 AMGame Sack would kick all sorts of ass if we released once a week instead of once every two weeks, but Dave has decided that he needs to be employed and actually make money and survive and stuff.
You could always call back Micronet and take them up on their offer :twisted:
Quote from: Gredler on 04/09/2015, 09:04 PMQuote from: Joe Redifer on 04/08/2015, 08:28 PMIt would be better for us to be on his channel because he has more subscribers. Even if we got AVGN in one of our episodes it wouldn't make a difference. But if we got on an AVGN episode... well just look at what happened to stupid Pat.
Stupid Pat is a curious statement; I was under the assumption most people love that guy. He's a local to my area. I see him from time to time at garage sales/swap meets in my area. I also have been to the store Luna Games, the place that his friend who does podcasts with him works. Luna is the only retro videogame store in my direct area, I don't want to speak negatively of it (or them) but I am not a fan. I rarely find things at swap meets/thrift stores, but each time I've seen him he has bags full of items, so I thought my distaste for them was due to local bitterness hahah
MJR I've spoken with in the Atari Age chat a few times, and he seemed OK if not aloof. He was not responsive when I suggested to him to check out a game I worked on for a "hidden gems" episode. I didn't have distaste for him until he got the Earthbound for free, and then this fundraiser. I have no issue with a guy receiving a gift from a friend or admirer, but I don't think it does anyone a favor bragging about the conquest of free acquisition of difficult and sought after items, but to each his own and there is obviously a audience for that. I think that was his mindset "well, someone gave me a [overly valued game, say $300,] maybe I can get them to give me money directly to do this, what should the theme be..."
However, I just have a lot of issues with people asking for funding without showing a certain amount of initiative to begin with. I'll back a project where they have a prototype but need funding for full development or manufacturing in bulk, but to just fund someones "idea" is such a difficult to support proposition. I guess I am just too much of a tightwad.
I wish him the best, and actually hope this gets funded and he and his "fans" enjoy themselves, but it's not something I can get behind, support, or be involved with.
The only part of his channel I enjoy is Drunken Master Paul. That guy can be pretty funny. He just seems like he would be a fun guy to hang out with. I would actually like to see him spin off his Gamer Eats show into its own channel. I think it would do well.
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 04/10/2015, 01:12 AMThe problem with pumping out so much stuff is that videos tend to drown in everything else. So if a Pat episode comes out you may never see it hidden amongst all of the podcast episodes and whatnot. Sometimes too much is just too much. The amount of views he has on each of his videos stays relatively low as a result. Ideally he should release maybe 3 times a week, max. Game Sack would kick all sorts of ass if we released once a week instead of once every two weeks, but Dave has decided that he needs to be employed and actually make money and survive and stuff.
That guy has a lot of nerve.
I tend to enjoy that the Gamesack videos feel like "shows" by length--they're well edited and all that, so they should feel like a real "show", but some 7 minute vids are well edited and all that too, they still just feel like youtube videos. Pat and CGR and that kind of stuff I like, but I watch them on my phone while dropping a deuce or eating a bowl of cereal (never both) or working on a woodworking project, and feel like I miss nothing out of the experience.
Gamesack I sit down, I turn on the projector and the PS3 and I
watch it, doing nothing else. Id much rather have a good, "real" (to me) episode every two weeks than a rapid fire assault of random 7 minute vids.
Quote from: GoldenWheels on 04/10/2015, 03:02 PMQuote from: Joe Redifer on 04/10/2015, 01:12 AMThe problem with pumping out so much stuff is that videos tend to drown in everything else. So if a Pat episode comes out you may never see it hidden amongst all of the podcast episodes and whatnot. Sometimes too much is just too much. The amount of views he has on each of his videos stays relatively low as a result. Ideally he should release maybe 3 times a week, max. Game Sack would kick all sorts of ass if we released once a week instead of once every two weeks, but Dave has decided that he needs to be employed and actually make money and survive and stuff.
That guy has a lot of nerve.
I tend to enjoy that the Gamesack videos feel like "shows" by length--they're well edited and all that, so they should feel like a real "show", but some 7 minute vids are well edited and all that too, they still just feel like youtube videos. Pat and CGR and that kind of stuff I like, but I watch them on my phone while dropping a deuce or eating a bowl of cereal (never both) or working on a woodworking project, and feel like I miss nothing out of the experience.
Gamesack I sit down, I turn on the projector and the PS3 and I watch it, doing nothing else. Id much rather have a good, "real" (to me) episode every two weeks than a rapid fire assault of random 7 minute vids.
I agree. I like that we have both short-format and "longer-format" options available.
I wish there were more examples of compelling content that ran longer than 15-20 minutes...but at least we have some.
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 04/09/2015, 11:55 PMI get offers ALL THE TIME to cover indie stuff. Generally I'm not interested unless it's for retro consoles, but it's usually for PC. But anyway those offers come in so often that's it's easy to just zone out when they do.
You know what show has a similar structure and execution to Pat the NES Punk episodes? Irate Gamer. Seriously. The only thing is that Irate Gamer uses more green screen effects. Both of their shows remind me of the other for some reason.
I didn't intend to speak poorly of these guys. They're all very nice from my interactions and their content has an audience, and I'm happy for both parties win-win. By aloof, I mean he was not very responsive to the conversation, albeit in a chatroom, and I am often the same in those lol.
MJR often does old generation "hidden gems" videos, and I suggested he cover a quickly but lovingly made PS2 disc release by a group of individuals that went on to immediately play important roles on games like God of War III, the Last of Us, Elder Scrolls Online, as well as other things. I thought it was a good candidate for a "hidden gem" because it was a console retail release that few would consider playing, but if you did it would be fun because it was made by a passionate group of talented people, I wish I were one of the talented ones but I was certainly passionate while working on it :P I could understand not covering indie games,but this was a retail release found in tons of bargain bins for cheap, so I thought it was worth being considered a "hidden gem". Not a diamond, maybe like a crystal or a amethyst.. hahah I just thought it'd be cool to show the guys that are working on these new AAA games peoples appreciation for the game, if there was any lol!
Speaking of Pat and short videos, I was wondering what Joe thinks of Retroware's format for The Video Game Years (especially since he participates in it).
I really think the show would be much better if each year was split into 2 or 3 parts instead of 4 or 5. With each 10 minute episode, you only get roughly 8 minutes of content, and even then it's hard to call Eric's section "It should of been a video game in [insert year here]" meaningful content. I love the show to death but they're really milking for clicks.
Yeah, each segment of The Video Game Years should be 25-30 min.
Meanwhile, Pat publishes even shorter sub-clips of each part on his channel to fish for views. http://youtu.be/rSw69vt2jKs
As for "Pat the NES Punk," it's ironic, Angry Video Game Nerd is more punk, and Pat is more of an aspie nerd.
Quote from: Gentlegamer on 04/10/2015, 09:21 PMMeanwhile, Pat publishes even shorter sub-clips of each part on his channel to fish for views. http://youtu.be/rSw69vt2jKs
It's funny that you mention that. The other day one of my friends was being really pushy with me, saying that I need to chop up the episodes of my show to make shorter "breakout" videos for people just looking for one specific game (in addition to keeping the long-form videos the way that they are), because that would get me "more views". Then, to back up his position, he did a search on YouTube for one of the games featured in my last episode, and showed me the results. "Look how many videos there are for this game, man!" Yeah, exactly. No need for another one. But somehow he doesn't see it that way. I guess the number of videos that pop up when you search for "ESPN eXtreme Games" must mean that there is a lot of demand for them. I tried to make him understand that I was trying to establish a cohesive "voice" or "theme" for my channel, and that I didn't even really want to do product reviews anymore because I am trying to cultivate an audience that is sold on my core format, but he just doesn't get it.
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 04/11/2015, 12:25 PMQuote from: Gentlegamer on 04/10/2015, 09:21 PMMeanwhile, Pat publishes even shorter sub-clips of each part on his channel to fish for views. http://youtu.be/rSw69vt2jKs
It's funny that you mention that. The other day one of my friends was being really pushy with me, saying that I need to chop up the episodes of my show to make shorter "breakout" videos for people just looking for one specific game (in addition to keeping the long-form videos the way that they are), because that would get me "more views". Then, to back up his position, he did a search on YouTube for one of the games featured in my last episode, and showed me the results. "Look how many videos there are for this game, man!" Yeah, exactly. No need for another one. But somehow he doesn't see it that way. I guess the number of videos that pop up when you search for "ESPN eXtreme Games" must mean that there is a lot of demand for them. I tried to make him understand that I was trying to establish a cohesive "voice" or "theme" for my channel, and that I didn't even really want to do product reviews anymore because I am trying to cultivate an audience that is sold on my core format, but he just doesn't get it.
If YouTube's subscription service becomes a reality, then I think we will see a shift in the content that people like Retroware and Pat create. The new system allows creators to put their content behind a paywall, thus eliminating the need for ad revenue and mulitple small videos.
It will force content creators to make better content (i.e. longer videos with more content) if they wish to charge. I'd hate to see Game Sack put their content behind a pay wall, but given the quality of the content and the small viewer base, it is likely a foregone conclusion.
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 04/11/2015, 12:25 PMQuote from: Gentlegamer on 04/10/2015, 09:21 PMMeanwhile, Pat publishes even shorter sub-clips of each part on his channel to fish for views. http://youtu.be/rSw69vt2jKs
It's funny that you mention that. The other day one of my friends was being really pushy with me, saying that I need to chop up the episodes of my show to make shorter "breakout" videos for people just looking for one specific game (in addition to keeping the long-form videos the way that they are), because that would get me "more views". Then, to back up his position, he did a search on YouTube for one of the games featured in my last episode, and showed me the results. "Look how many videos there are for this game, man!" Yeah, exactly. No need for another one. But somehow he doesn't see it that way. I guess the number of videos that pop up when you search for "ESPN eXtreme Games" must mean that there is a lot of demand for them. I tried to make him understand that I was trying to establish a cohesive "voice" or "theme" for my channel, and that I didn't even really want to do product reviews anymore because I am trying to cultivate an audience that is sold on my core format, but he just doesn't get it.
Yup. Do what you do, don't worry. This is for fun. :)
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 04/11/2015, 12:25 PMQuote from: Gentlegamer on 04/10/2015, 09:21 PMMeanwhile, Pat publishes even shorter sub-clips of each part on his channel to fish for views. http://youtu.be/rSw69vt2jKs
It's funny that you mention that. The other day one of my friends was being really pushy with me, saying that I need to chop up the episodes of my show to make shorter "breakout" videos for people just looking for one specific game (in addition to keeping the long-form videos the way that they are), because that would get me "more views". Then, to back up his position, he did a search on YouTube for one of the games featured in my last episode, and showed me the results. "Look how many videos there are for this game, man!" Yeah, exactly. No need for another one. But somehow he doesn't see it that way. I guess the number of videos that pop up when you search for "ESPN eXtreme Games" must mean that there is a lot of demand for them. I tried to make him understand that I was trying to establish a cohesive "voice" or "theme" for my channel, and that I didn't even really want to do product reviews anymore because I am trying to cultivate an audience that is sold on my core format, but he just doesn't get it.
Yeah it is kind of why's Pat the NES punk does. He makes long formate videos post them then chose the same videos into segments or topics. Post them. Then video records his pod cast like Howard stern stream an audio version on top of a chopped up video version as well.
So it LOOKS like a ton of continent but it is rehashed rehashed recyed stuff to build views. Because in the end it is a business for him not a side project for fun.
Quote from: esteban on 04/11/2015, 01:10 PMQuote from: CGQuarterly on 04/11/2015, 12:25 PMQuote from: Gentlegamer on 04/10/2015, 09:21 PMMeanwhile, Pat publishes even shorter sub-clips of each part on his channel to fish for views. http://youtu.be/rSw69vt2jKs
It's funny that you mention that. The other day one of my friends was being really pushy with me, saying that I need to chop up the episodes of my show to make shorter "breakout" videos for people just looking for one specific game (in addition to keeping the long-form videos the way that they are), because that would get me "more views". Then, to back up his position, he did a search on YouTube for one of the games featured in my last episode, and showed me the results. "Look how many videos there are for this game, man!" Yeah, exactly. No need for another one. But somehow he doesn't see it that way. I guess the number of videos that pop up when you search for "ESPN eXtreme Games" must mean that there is a lot of demand for them. I tried to make him understand that I was trying to establish a cohesive "voice" or "theme" for my channel, and that I didn't even really want to do product reviews anymore because I am trying to cultivate an audience that is sold on my core format, but he just doesn't get it.
Yup. Do what you do, don't worry. This is for fun. :)
Oh, totally. I just think it's funny because this guy always has strong opinions about stuff like that even though he has no actual experience. *HE* prefers short videos because he has a short attention span, so obviously my channel would be better off doing "quick hits" instead of the longer-form content that I have been moving towards. It's understandable, though because his opinion is based on his personal preferences. Frankly, I make the kind of videos that I personally like to watch, and I conduct my channel in the manner that I like to see channels that I subscribe to conduct themselves.
I had a lot more typed out, but at this point I'm just ranting.
^ yes, I hear you. :)
I agree, keep doing what you do. Look at the channel Classic Game Room. They often release many videos a day. They will get lost in your users subscription feeds. So a video you may be interested may never appear on the screen while other CGR videos do. Look at the view count for each video, it's pretty low compared to how many subs they have. Also other people's videos will get lost in that same feed. For example if you're subscribed to Classic Game Room and a Game Sack video comes out, good luck seeing it because it will be buried in CGR videos (most of them which you won't watch).
Sometimes I get the occasional comment of "Your videos are too long!". To that I usually reply "Youtube will remember where you left off when you come back" or if I'm in a particular mood I will ask "How are you able to watch TV shows and movies?"
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 04/11/2015, 03:28 PMSometimes I get the occasional comment of "Your videos are too long!". To that I usually reply "Youtube will remember where you left off when you come back" or if I'm in a particular mood I will ask "How are you able to watch TV shows and movies?"
My attitude towards that is that those people simply aren't your core audience. Guys like me look forward to a new episode of Game Sack because we get to settle in and just watch a sweet video for 25-30 minutes. I mean shit, it's not like Game Sack episodes are 30 minutes about the same game. Its a few minutes of intro, and then like 2 minutes dedicated to each game. If you aren't interested in the game that's being discussed, a new one is coming right up. There's even an intermission in the middle to help break it up! I just don't get some people, I guess.
Going back to my friend, about my Streets of Rage episode he said "that video would have been perfect if it had ended at 5 minutes." But the thing is, that video actually has some of the best viewer retention numbers of anything I've made. So I'm just gonna go ahead with what I'm doing.
And I agree about CGR. I really like Mark, and I've been watching him since he came back in 2007 or 2008, but I feel like he could be producing better shows and uploading less frequently and be doing at least as well as he is now. I too have noticed his view numbers and they're surprisingly low, all things considered. I really think that the trend on YouTube is moving more towards the longer-form, in-depth videos, based on the recent success of both your show and The Videogame Historian, both of which are up over 100,000 subs now. I think that YouTube has just been saturated with quick-hit, single-game videos and the only ones that are still really successful are the ones that are a lot more about the personality of the host than they are about the content being discussed.
Oh, about the Video Game Years question. I actually answered that but quickly deleted the post because I felt that it might be too much for public knowledge. Bottom line: Pat's dumb. But I do think the show works better at 20+ minutes. I wanted to have more installments per year in order to cover more games but they said no. But then they started having more installments anyway, just shorter segments. I've edited all the way up to the end of 1989 and I'm not certain if I will return as an editor and/or on-camera blabbermouth
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 04/11/2015, 07:58 PMOh, about the Video Game Years question. I actually answered that but quickly deleted the post because I felt that it might be too much for public knowledge. Bottom line: Pat's dumb. But I do think the show works better at 20+ minutes. I wanted to have more installments per year in order to cover more games but they said no. But then they started having more installments anyway, just shorter segments. I've edited all the way up to the end of 1989 and I'm not certain if I will return as an editor and/or on-camera blabbermouth
It is a shame some aren't open to others ideas and opinions especially when you have shown that you know a little about retro games/gaming. I hope you and Dave stay on at least for informative purposes as I think you both help add to the shows credibility.
Do you know when retroware intends for the video game years project to end? I remember at one time they had a funding project which would take them to XXXX year but I can't remember where that ended up..
There was some juicy Pat dish up there.
Quote from: Gentlegamer on 04/11/2015, 08:44 PMThere was some juicy Pat dish up there.
Yea I know, I read it too. None of it was much of a surprise though :)
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 04/11/2015, 07:58 PMOh, about the Video Game Years question. I actually answered that but quickly deleted the post because I felt that it might be too much for public knowledge. Bottom line: Pat's dumb. But I do think the show works better at 20+ minutes. I wanted to have more installments per year in order to cover more games but they said no. But then they started having more installments anyway, just shorter segments. I've edited all the way up to the end of 1989 and I'm not certain if I will return as an editor and/or on-camera blabbermouth
Thanks for fielding that. I couldn't see any of the viewers being bothered by longer episodes with more content. I suppose that no matter what RW does they're only going to attract a certain number of hits, so why spend more time/money.
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 04/11/2015, 07:58 PMOh, about the Video Game Years question. I actually answered that but quickly deleted the post because I felt that it might be too much for public knowledge. Bottom line: Pat's dumb. But I do think the show works better at 20+ minutes. I wanted to have more installments per year in order to cover more games but they said no. But then they started having more installments anyway, just shorter segments. I've edited all the way up to the end of 1989 and I'm not certain if I will return as an editor and/or on-camera blabbermouth
I honestly like that you and Dave are on those segments.
Some of the people on it. Eh.
For the longest time when Eian was on it I kept thinking "who is this guy with the pink horse shirt" and "why is he with Pat?" Gay lover? Dorky kid brother? Then I started seeing those mini segments that Oat would do with him and realized he is some retro game store worker (possibly manager?) and get a little tired of hearing him and Lat promo Lunar Games. What do they get a dollar every time they say it? But they started to tone that down.
local Dan I thought was another odd choice as I know him as a toy reviewer (which I like) but apart from the "pixels to plastic" he didn't seem to tie into the rest of the group. Seems more like a "who you know" situation.
Then there is that one guy from RW who sounds like he is in the middle of puberty for the past two years (seems like a generally nice guy but alway a peripheral person hovering in OTHER people's videos at cons and such). He comes off a little boring but I think that is due to his voice. Just doesn't sound pleasing to hear in a documentary sort of way.
I like Roo but man. He hasn't done a new 16-bit gems videos in like two years. All he seems to do is those pod cast videos that. I honestly can't get into. Now throwing up unedited hour long life feed videos just doesn't make for interesting or engaging videos for me.
The Game Chasers. Have always like them from the start good idea for a retro game show. But man they come off so ehhhhh low class? Lack of class? It has started to urk me. Can't we edit out all their burps and use of local slang that just makes you come off as middle age guys with graying hair and rough personalitys they never grew up past the high school years? Plus wow. How long did it take them to correct that Intel sound bit from "Texas is a big country" to "Texas is a big state"? Like the first year and a half it seemed. But apart from those arm chair grips from a guy who doesn't create anything but poorly written Internet forum post that is my two cents on most of the RW crew who appear on these shows.
I am just waiting for the other croonies to start bringing in these like PBGamer, Metal Jesus, Irate Gamer, Mike (hell they started getting James might as well get Mike then we can have someone spout dick and ass jokes every two seconds), 8-bit Eric, alpha omega, taser fist and etc.
There is a reason I don't watch much video game stuff...I am far too finicky about video games.
Quote from: esteban on 04/11/2015, 11:04 PMThere is a reason I don't watch much video game stuff...I am far too finicky about video games.
Well, shit. That makes me feel lucky that you put up with my vids. Thanks!
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 04/11/2015, 11:54 PMWell, shit. That makes me feel lucky that you put up with my vids. Thanks!
I didn't even realize you had a channel until a few weeks ago. Your PS1 video is excellent and you have a great voice.. I just subscribed! :)
Quote from: esteban on 04/11/2015, 11:04 PMThere is a reason I don't watch much video game stuff...I am far too finicky about video games.
I don't watch too much video game stuff because I am around the same age as most of those guys, and there is very little they can tell me that I don't already know. Game Sack's regional differences episode is an exception. The Genesis Batman shadows had me all like :-s
I would like to ask some YouTube questions if anyone can help me out. I am only subscribed to maybe 15 channels. However, a lot of times new videos won't make it into my feed. Also, I will look at someone I am subbed to, and it will say 10 new videos, but none of them are new. Is YT just slow, broken, or is it something I am doing? I don't always log in when I watch stuff, but even when I do, logging in later will lead to the same results. It constantly says that old videos are new. Any ideas?
Sometimes videos don't show up in the subscription feed. I've had that happen maybe twice to me. I'm only subscribed to maybe 10 or 15 channels as well.
Ian is a manager at one of the Luna Games stores in San Diego. People generally find him more interesting than Pat and I think that's why his podcast has any degree of success.
Lance is the guy who sounds weird. From what I have heard, one of his vocal chords is paralyzed or some such thing. I don't remember if this has always been the case or some accident happened to cause this.
Roo is currently ONLY known for the Video Game Years as he hasn't done much with his channel. I think he works at a university but I'm only guessing.
Metal Jesus has done some Video Game Years segments I think in the looooong past. I asked him about appearing a year ago and he never got back to me. Happy Console Gamer appeared at my request. We did this all behind everyone's back and I had all of his footage uploaded before I told everyone he was going to be part of 1987. But won't be appearing in any years after 1987 because he felt it just wasn't worth his time. Irate Gamer would NEVER appear because he has his own competing show or something. Also there's already too much Pat in each episode, no reason to have "other Pat" in there as well. 8-Bit Eric thinks they would never be interested in what he has to say. Alpha has considered it but would only do it if he's asked. I'm sure they'd love to have Peanut Nutter on since he's mega popular (I still have never watched him). Hell they have that Arin Egoraptor guy who rarely provides anything useful simply because he is popular. Watch the upcoming Castlevania segment. He's in there just because he's him but what he says adds nothing to anything and is just a waste of time. He almost always complains about the games he talks about. If you were to watch his raw footage, you'd realize just how high he was when it was recorded.
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 04/11/2015, 11:54 PMQuote from: esteban on 04/11/2015, 11:04 PMThere is a reason I don't watch much video game stuff...I am far too finicky about video games.
Well, shit. That makes me feel lucky that you put up with my vids. Thanks!
I am not BS'ing...I like your videos—they are solid, reliable. Even when I am not "learning" something new, I never think it is a waste of my time, or that it is purely "entertainment" (see 99% of popular content on YouTube).
Quote from: mackdanger on 04/12/2015, 12:43 AMQuote from: esteban on 04/11/2015, 11:04 PMThere is a reason I don't watch much video game stuff...I am far too finicky about video games.
I don't watch too much video game stuff because I am around the same age as most of those guys, and there is very little they can tell me that I don't already know. Game Sack's regional differences episode is an exception. The Genesis Batman shadows had me all like :-s
Exactly. I know certain consoles/games very well...I am always hoping to learn something knew, or see something from a new (valid) perspective, but that is rarely the case.
However, when it comes to games/platforms that I am NOT familiar with, I have so much more fun watching a video....ignorance is bliss, after all.
Subsequently, however, after directly playing the game in question, my opinion of those "enjoyable videos" often drops because I see troubling flaws (I can live with minor flaws) in the videos I watched.
Like I said. Finicky.
Ahhh hmm then I feel bad for what I said about Lance. I have a speech impediment that embarrasses me which is honestly one thing that really keeps me from doing videos as I do not NOT like my speaking voice.
As for 8-bit Eriic.
He totally reminds me of that guy who acts dorky so that the "cool kids" in the man group will keep you around but at the same time completely undermines and hides any talent or interesting parts of his personality in fear that the group would kick him out of guy time. Eric needs to value himself more and see himself as an equal.
As for Alpha. If they want him but he wants to be invited as not to feel like he is imposing well heck. Just go all saddy hawking and ask yourself out alpha.
Lol. "Other Pat". Sigh. Good one.
Since this has become the Video Game Years topic:
I wish the show had more appearances by actual people in the industry that were involved in that era. I believe Howard Philips was in a segment and that was awesome. While generally I do like anecdotal stories, when a show like that takes such a strong a historical perspective, it feels very incomplete to not have 'primary accounts' or direct sources. I guess the idea is to go for that VH1 style, but most of the time I'm left wondering "who are you and why should I care what you have to say about this topic."
Quote from: Gentlegamer on 04/12/2015, 11:48 AMSince this has become the Video Game Years topic:
I wish the show had more appearances by actual people in the industry that were involved in that era. I believe Howard Philips was in a segment and that was awesome. While generally I do like anecdotal stories, when a show like that takes such a strong a historical perspective, it feels very incomplete to not have 'primary accounts' or direct sources. I guess the idea is to go for that VH1 style, but most of the time I'm left wondering "who are you and why should I care what you have to say about this topic."
Exactly. I can take a few goofballs commenting, but there should be at least ONE person with credibility to speak on a topic---the narrower the topic, the deeper the knowledge/insight, the better! (Save the obvious generalities for the goofballs, let the folks who know something share something a bit more in-depth).
I feel that it won't drastically alter the format:
Generalities...for mass appeal
Tiny bits of intriguing/in-depth stuff...to appease me.
I honestly feel that the series is aimed more at younger folks who want to learn more about the past.
Also, the segment "This should have been a game" is a total waste of time. I know it is an attempt at something creative & new, but I feel the time would be better spent experimenting with different concepts...
I should add that I only recently learned about Game Sack, so before that when I saw Joe on screen and in the credits I remembered him from Sega-16 and here, and knew he actually does know what he's talking about (most of the time when it isn't Nintendo). But I should have known the show is mainly about 'tubetard' e-celebs' waxing nostalgic.
Quote from: Gentlegamer on 04/12/2015, 12:09 PMI should add that I only recently learned about Game Sack, so before that when I saw Joe on screen and in the credits I remembered him from Sega-16 and here, and knew he actually does know what he's talking about (most of the time when it isn't Nintendo). But I should have known the show is mainly about 'tubetard' e-celebs' waxing nostalgic.
I am not even sure that they are waxing nostalgic. I think some of these folks pretend to have played a much wider range of games "back on the day" than they really did.
So, "waxing faux-nostalgic" ....
:)
I also want to add that now I want to watch some more Metal Jesus videos. No joke.
Quote from: esteban on 04/12/2015, 12:13 PMQuote from: Gentlegamer on 04/12/2015, 12:09 PMI should add that I only recently learned about Game Sack, so before that when I saw Joe on screen and in the credits I remembered him from Sega-16 and here, and knew he actually does know what he's talking about (most of the time when it isn't Nintendo). But I should have known the show is mainly about 'tubetard' e-celebs' waxing nostalgic.
I think some of these folks pretend to have played a much wider range of games "back on the day" than they really did.
I've always thought this too.
Quote from: esteban on 04/12/2015, 12:13 PMI also want to add that now I want to watch some more Metal Jesus videos. No joke.
Ironically enough I was surfing youtube last night and one of his videos popped up into my suggestions feed. It was for Mario Hidden Gems and I was curious so I clicked it. Did you know Super Mario Land 2 and Super Mario Sunshine are hidden gems? WOW! WHO KNEW?!
Quote from: esteban on 04/12/2015, 12:13 PMI am not even sure that they are waxing nostalgic. I think some of these folks pretend to have played a much wider range of games "back on the day" than they really did.
I question how old most of these guys were when most of this stuff was going on in the early and mid 80's...
Quote from: guest on 04/12/2015, 01:05 PMQuote from: esteban on 04/12/2015, 12:13 PMI am not even sure that they are waxing nostalgic. I think some of these folks pretend to have played a much wider range of games "back on the day" than they really did.
I question how old most of these guys were when most of this stuff was going on in the early and mid 80's...
This is definitely a thing on YouTube and on Podcasts. You get these shows run by a member of this new generation of kids who are into old games, and they just try too hard to establish credibility. There's a podcast called "Back in My Play" that I listened to the first few episodes of. All other issues aside, I quit listening when they talked about the SNES, and the host went on about how he TOTALLY remembers the SNES launch because he was 5 years old and his mom took him to the mall where there was a Nintendo promotional event going on and after that he was all about the SNES and got LttP as soon as it came out and blah blah blah. Like he was really trying way too hard to over-sell the fact that he was alive when the SNES came out, and it just sounded pathetic.
These younger guys should embrace the fact that they didn't grow up with this shit. Use it. Say that some game that we all love is actually shit because we all just have our nostalgia goggles on, or something.
Actually, my current favorite podcast is Retro Game Squad. The host is around my age (late 30's) so he was around for all of the games that he talks about, but his two co-hosts are younger guys who are playing for the first time a lot of the games that they feature. But they don't try to hide that fact. Instead what you get is the perspective of a guy who has nostalgic feelings about some of these games, and can talk about what it was like when they came out, put them into historical context, etc. Then you have a couple of guys who are just talking about the game objectively, since this is their first time playing it.
Edit: And I will freely admit when I haven't played a game that I clearly should have back in the day.
Quote from: Gentlegamer on 04/12/2015, 11:48 AMI wish the show had more appearances by actual people in the industry that were involved in that era.
I agree 100%. We've had the aforementioned Howard Phillips in a few segments (and a few to come). We've also had Keith Robinson from Intellivision, David Crane and Howard Scott Warshaw. I'd like to eventually get Reggie Feels-a-Man, Tom Kalinske, some person from NEC I dunno. Maybe even the fucking Game Lord to represent SNK.
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 04/12/2015, 06:51 PMsome person from NEC I dunno.
How about Jonathan "Johnny Turbo" Brandstetter from TTI
That would rule. He also worked for Sega after that so it would be a 2-for-1 guest.
Quote from: guest on 04/12/2015, 01:05 PMIronically enough I was surfing youtube last night and one of his videos popped up into my suggestions feed. It was for Mario Hidden Gems and I was curious so I clicked it. Did you know Super Mario Land 2 and Super Mario Sunshine are hidden gems? WOW! WHO KNEW?!
I have vowed to myself never to watch that video, and after reading that I'm even more glad that I didn't. I suppose Metal Grey Jesus Geriatric Edition will be covering New Super Mario Bros. U and Super Mario 3D Land on Mario Hidden Gems 2 in 2030.
Johnny Turbo worked for FEKA?!?!
Quote from: Gentlegamer on 04/12/2015, 07:33 PMJohnny Turbo worked for FEKA?!?!
Sega-CD, in fact. JB = FEKA
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 04/12/2015, 01:51 AMIan is a manager at one of the Luna Games stores in San Diego. People generally find him more interesting than Pat and I think that's why his podcast has any degree of success.
I've listened to those podcasts from time to time and it's definitely 99% because of Ian.
The only other person I respect (outside of Game Sack, of course) in that entire group is Roo. Wish he made more videos =[
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 04/12/2015, 04:52 PMThis is definitely a thing on YouTube and on Podcasts. You get these shows run by a member of this new generation of kids who are into old games, and they just try too hard to establish credibility.
Now we're getting somewhere...
Just recently I was searching for a Wizard of Wor video for a 3-D modelling project. For the record, I used to jam on some Wizard of Wor, and it was one of the games I used to play co-op with my dad. So in my search results, a Wor video pops up authored by AVGN's bottom bitch. The first thing he says is something like, "Back in my day WoW meant Wizard of Wor, not World of Warcraft" or some shit like that. If the info on his age is correct, that fool was 1 year old when Wor came out. The frequency with which they changed out arcade machines at the time, meant that when he was finally old enough to go to an arcade and remember the experience, the odds of Wor still being there were almost nil.
Don't get me wrong. If some snot nose comes along, picks up an old copy of Contra and really enjoys it, well that's just fine. What the "come lately's" and the posers need to realize, however, is that their opinions will always be worth less than the opinion of someone who was there. Like music, movies, t.v. shows, and toys, video games are cultural artifacts. They are products of a specific time that encapsulated the trends, fads, and attitudes contained within. I can pick up a CD of Vietnam War era protest music, and maybe even enjoy it. I am, however, unable to enjoy or understand it the same way someone from that era is able to understand it. Their connection will always be by default, much stronger than mine. For me to stomp around grousing about Ho Chi Minh and LBJ would be comically stupid.
Just in case, if anyone is thinking about throwing out the word "elitist" after reading this, I suggest you don't. Elitist is another word that has been ruined by the internet because dummies don't understand what it means. My position is neither elitist nor even exclusionary. To clarify, I am not saying the kiddies can't play. I am saying that they cannot understand these things the way that I do and they shouldn't
pretend that they can.
The people who talk about their torment and how they were ostracized for being nerds for playing video games are probably mostly exaggerating as well. I am not saying it didn't happen, I just don't think it was as widespread or severe as a lot of people say it was. You can see evidence in the news reports and sales figures from the time. Arcades were always packed, the home console and PC gaming market were huge for the time. I was in junior high when Zelda came out, and the person who told me about the hidden rupee island was the quarterback for the football team. I am willing to bet that a good number of these "tormented" cut off and segregated themselves, rather than the other way around.
I was ostracized for being a D&D nerd, not for video games.
Quote from: esteban on 04/12/2015, 11:14 PMQuote from: Gentlegamer on 04/12/2015, 07:33 PMJohnny Turbo worked for FEKA?!?!
Sega-CD, in fact. JB = FEKA
I don't know if he worked on the Sega CD, but he was definitely there for the 32X launch. He worked on Star Wars Arcade and Doom of I recall.
My heart jumped when PuhBuhGee was mentioned. Adventure, yaaay!
Srsly, I like his goofiness. And his videos are edited pretty well to my uneducated eye.
When thinking of Pat, I think his first reviews had good intentions, but he didn't improved much. When he flooded his channel with podcasts, I quit my subscription.
Thinking of Bucci, his early Turbo reviews began similar, but he improved a lot over time and he gives me the feeling that he know what he's talking about. I just wish he'd do RGB or component video, but well, at least for me his style remains more true to the original experience than simply relying on emulation.
Chris Bucci is amazing.
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 04/12/2015, 01:51 AMHell they have that Arin Egoraptor guy who rarely provides anything useful simply because he is popular. Watch the upcoming Castlevania segment. He's in there just because he's him but what he says adds nothing to anything and is just a waste of time. He almost always complains about the games he talks about. If you were to watch his raw footage, you'd realize just how high he was when it was recorded.
Geez Louise. What an insult to Castlevania having that guy on. I just watched that segment and Joe is not exaggerating. I don't even see how anyone could have found him funny either (and I find Game Grumps to be mildly entertaining).
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 04/14/2015, 03:42 AMChris Bucci is amazing.
Best Turbo Reviewer, big Pinball fan too.
Quote from: EvilEvoIX on 04/14/2015, 08:29 PMQuote from: Joe Redifer on 04/14/2015, 03:42 AMChris Bucci is amazing.
Best Turbo Reviewer, big Pinball fan too.
I live vicariously through his pinball vids. They are also excellent.
Quote from: bozo55 on 04/14/2015, 04:20 PMQuote from: Joe Redifer on 04/12/2015, 01:51 AMHell they have that Arin Egoraptor guy who rarely provides anything useful simply because he is popular. Watch the upcoming Castlevania segment. He's in there just because he's him but what he says adds nothing to anything and is just a waste of time. He almost always complains about the games he talks about. If you were to watch his raw footage, you'd realize just how high he was when it was recorded.
Geez Louise. What an insult to Castlevania having that guy on. I just watched that segment and Joe is not exaggerating. I don't even see how anyone could have found him funny either (and I find Game Grumps to be mildly entertaining).
I the thought the guy from game chasers appeared high. Glassy eyes. The other guy just sounded like an idiot.
I just saw the Egorator segment.
Seriously, who approved that?
Quote from: Gentlegamer on 04/15/2015, 10:58 PMI just saw the Egorator segment.
Seriously, who approved that?
Pat Contri
Quote from: guest on 04/15/2015, 11:02 PMQuote from: Gentlegamer on 04/15/2015, 10:58 PMI just saw the Egorator segment.
Seriously, who approved that?
Pat Contri
He goes out of his way to bring up more famous Youtubers that he "talks to/is friends with." I think he may be a starfakker.
I wish Ego would return to voice dubbing and animation instead of showing his face in front of a camera.
Quote from: guest on 04/16/2015, 03:26 AMI wish Ego would return to voice dubbing and animation instead of showing his face in front of a camera.
Yeah. That'd be nice.
Quote from: HailingTheThings on 04/16/2015, 05:22 PMQuote from: guest on 04/16/2015, 03:26 AMI wish Ego would return to voice dubbing and animation instead of showing his face in front of a camera.
Yeah. That'd be nice.
Your new avatar really creeps me out [emoji79]
Quote from: guest on 04/16/2015, 06:39 PMQuote from: HailingTheThings on 04/16/2015, 05:22 PMQuote from: guest on 04/16/2015, 03:26 AMI wish Ego would return to voice dubbing and animation instead of showing his face in front of a camera.
Yeah. That'd be nice.
Your new avatar really creeps me out [emoji79]
That's actually what I look like/Mission accomplished.
#boobiesorsomethingamirite
Quote from: HailingTheThings on 04/16/2015, 12:00 AMQuote from: guest on 04/15/2015, 11:02 PMPat Contri
He goes out of his way to bring up more famous Youtubers that he "talks to/is friends with." I think he may be a starfakker.
Ding ding sing! We have a winner! According to famous Youtubers I talk to (heh, "famous" being highly debatable... actually not really debatable... more like "moderately known") at conventions if Pat is talking to you and someone with significantly more subs than you walks into the room, Pat will ignore you and go out of his way to talk to that person. The little guy doesn't matter. I wonder how many people actually consider Pat their friend, though.
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 04/18/2015, 03:06 PMQuote from: HailingTheThings on 04/16/2015, 12:00 AMQuote from: guest on 04/15/2015, 11:02 PMPat Contri
He goes out of his way to bring up more famous Youtubers that he "talks to/is friends with." I think he may be a starfakker.
Ding ding sing! We have a winner! According to famous Youtubers I talk to (heh, "famous" being highly debatable... actually not really debatable... more like "moderately known") at conventions if Pat is talking to you and someone with significantly more subs than you walks into the room, Pat will ignore you and go out of his way to talk to that person. The little guy doesn't matter. I wonder how many people actually consider Pat their friend, though.
Well he is a self professed "Punk" so I guess it should come as no surprise.
Quote from: guest on 04/18/2015, 03:16 PMQuote from: Joe Redifer on 04/18/2015, 03:06 PMQuote from: HailingTheThings on 04/16/2015, 12:00 AMQuote from: guest on 04/15/2015, 11:02 PMPat Contri
He goes out of his way to bring up more famous Youtubers that he "talks to/is friends with." I think he may be a starfakker.
Ding ding sing! We have a winner! According to famous Youtubers I talk to (heh, "famous" being highly debatable... actually not really debatable... more like "moderately known") at conventions if Pat is talking to you and someone with significantly more subs than you walks into the room, Pat will ignore you and go out of his way to talk to that person. The little guy doesn't matter. I wonder how many people actually consider Pat their friend, though.
Well he is a self professed "Punk" so I guess it should come as no surprise.
Well, damn. Pat The STAR feck. lol *supercatface*
For someone calling themselves a NES punk he sure does seem to talk a lot about non NES stuff.
I feel uncool because I have no idea who Pat the NES Punk is. But I have also never watched an AVGN episode in my life, so I guess I'm just a loser.
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 04/18/2015, 08:57 PMI feel uncool because I have no idea who Pat the NES Punk is. But I have also never watched an AVGN episode in my life, so I guess I'm just a loser.
No AVGN?! So many great episodes. Sega CD and 32x are two of my favorites. Friday the 13th is great too.
Honestly for every AVGN NES PUnk Metal Jeues or Apha Omega Sin I prefer the you tubers more who do not feel the need to don a persona and can simply be themselves without embellishment.
Hence why I enjoy gamesack and turbo views and such.
Quote from: Medic_wheat on 04/18/2015, 09:50 PMHonestly for every AVGN NES PUnk Metal Jeues or Apha Omega Sin I prefer the you tubers more who do not feel the need to don a persona and can simply be themselves without embellishment.
Hence why I enjoy gamesack and turbo views and such.
Pretty much this. I don't like the guys on YT who feel the need to have a personality that isn't their own. What you see is what you get with me, and I feel like Game Sack and CGR are the same way.
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 04/19/2015, 12:25 AMQuote from: Medic_wheat on 04/18/2015, 09:50 PMHonestly for every AVGN NES PUnk Metal Jeues or Apha Omega Sin I prefer the you tubers more who do not feel the need to don a persona and can simply be themselves without embellishment.
Hence why I enjoy gamesack and turbo views and such.
Pretty much this. I don't like the guys on YT who feel the need to have a personality that isn't their own. What you see is what you get with me, and I feel like Game Sack and CGR are the same way.
Can you please do more of the Lets Read magazine episodes? I love the nostalgia!
PS: am I the only one who watches Ancient DOS Games?
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 04/18/2015, 08:57 PMI feel uncool because I have no idea who Pat the NES Punk is. But I have also never watched an AVGN episode in my life, so I guess I'm just a loser.
Go watch some AVGN. Rolfe started before youtube was even a thing.
Quote from: Gentlegamer on 04/15/2015, 10:58 PMI just saw the Egorator segment.
Seriously, who approved that?
I saw it wtf all he did for the castlevania segment was make fart sounds !?
Quote from: Gentlegamer on 04/19/2015, 12:51 AMQuote from: CGQuarterly on 04/18/2015, 08:57 PMI feel uncool because I have no idea who Pat the NES Punk is. But I have also never watched an AVGN episode in my life, so I guess I'm just a loser.
Go watch some AVGN. Rolfe started before youtube was even a thing.
I know you did not ask. Sorry. :(
But here goes...
AVGN is a flawed show, but it often manages to be entertaining, DESPITE ITSELF.
I would tell most folks: watch it and decide for yourself. Look past the obvious stupidity and you will find some genuinely creative and entertaining moments. However, everyone's crap:quality ratio is different, and you might not be able to tolerate all the crap.
The key problem is that Rolfe is not convincing in his role as AVGN—he tries way too hard to drink and curse and be revolting...but he simply cannot pull off this character.
So, instead of enjoying the juvenile antics of the AVGN, I always found myself cringing: "Wow, this is just painful to watch. I feel so embarrassed for this guy." I feel the same way when AVGN is gross and shocking without any wit or purpose. Let's be clear: any idiot can conceive and create vulgar/revolting content—that takes zero talent. However, I do respect folks who produce genuinely engaging/creative content, and Rolfe *certainly* does this, too.
My problem, I guess, is that his quality:crap (literally) ratio could easily be higher. Easily. I can't help but feel that he spent years pandering to the lowest-common-denominator audience, simply to appeal to the widest audience possible (this is the approach of all mainstream media, of course...Rolfe simply operated on a smaller scale).
Thankfully, if you can stomach the tripe forced upon you in every episode, AVGN usually rewards you and can be genuinely funny. And creative.
FOR THE RECORD, I FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT NOSTALGIA CRITIC, except that Nostalgia Critic is has vastly superior critiques (compared to AVGN) that are well-reasoned and supported with evidence. Even though I often disagree with Nostalgia Critic, I respect the way he presents and supports his arguments...he has a focus (thesis or narrative) and sticks to it. The show has struck a wonderful balance between seriousness:entertainment.
It's entertainment, first and foremost, but there are deeper levels, too.
AVGN never consistently reached this level of critique.
I'll stop now...
Quote from: esteban on 04/19/2015, 06:26 AMQuote from: Gentlegamer on 04/19/2015, 12:51 AMQuote from: CGQuarterly on 04/18/2015, 08:57 PMI feel uncool because I have no idea who Pat the NES Punk is. But I have also never watched an AVGN episode in my life, so I guess I'm just a loser.
Go watch some AVGN. Rolfe started before youtube was even a thing.
I know you did not ask. Sorry. :(
But here goes...
AVGN is a flawed show, but it often manages to be entertaining, DESPITE ITSELF.
I would tell most folks: watch it and decide for yourself. Look past the obvious stupidity and you will find some genuinely creative and entertaining moments. However, everyone's crap:quality ratio is different, and you might not be able to tolerate all the crap.
The key problem is that Rolfe is not convincing in his role as AVGN—he tries way too hard to drink and curse and be revolting...but he simply cannot pull off this character.
So, instead of enjoying the juvenile antics of the AVGN, I always found myself cringing: "Wow, this is just painful to watch. I feel so embarrassed for this guy." I feel the same way when AVGN is gross and shocking without any wit or purpose. Let's be clear: any idiot can conceive and create vulgar/revolting content—that takes zero talent. However, I do respect folks who produce genuinely engaging/creative content, and Rolfe *certainly* does this, too.
My problem, I guess, is that his quality:crap (literally) ratio could easily be higher. Easily. I can't help but feel that he spent years pandering to the lowest-common-denominator audience, simply to appeal to the widest audience possible (this is the approach of all mainstream media, of course...Rolfe simply operated on a smaller scale).
Thankfully, if you can stomach the tripe forced upon you in every episode, AVGN usually rewards you and can be genuinely funny. And creative.
FOR THE RECORD, I FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT NOSTALGIA CRITIC, except that Nostalgia Critic is has vastly superior critiques (compared to AVGN) that are well-reasoned and supported with evidence. Even though I often disagree with Nostalgia Critic, I respect the way he presents and supports his arguments...he has a focus (thesis or narrative) and sticks to it. The show has struck a wonderful balance between seriousness:entertainment.
It's entertainment, first and foremost, but there are deeper levels, too.
AVGN never consistently reached this level of critique.
I'll stop now...
Sounds like a personal problem.
AVGN reviews The Toxic Avenger, with special guest Lloyd Kaufman, founder of Troma
(https://web.archive.org/web/20130529115406im_/http://i.minus.com/iTecKweKczaq1.gif)
Quote from: Gentlegamer on 04/19/2015, 07:53 AMAVGN reviews The Toxic Avenger, with special guest Lloyd Kaufman, founder of Troma
That is actually one episode of avgn I don't like. That old dude seems like a creepy pervert.
Can someone give me a Cliff's Notes update on what happened with Metal Jesus' road trip? I saw the video where he announced it, and the video where he justifies his request for 50K, but I never heard anything about it since. I know a lot of people balked at his itemized spreadsheet....were there other video game forums ripping him apart over this?
Quote from: Flare65 on 04/19/2015, 09:05 PMCan someone give me a Cliff's Notes update on what happened with Metal Jesus' road trip? I saw the video where he announced it, and the video where he justifies his request for 50K, but I never heard anything about it since. I know a lot of people balked at his itemized spreadsheet....were there other video game forums ripping him apart over this?
Epic Fail is the abridged version. The campaign is still on indie, but he only collected 6K and there is only 14days left. So it would be a Jesus size miracle to make his goal. He pulled the promotion videos after 2 days. I think he caught so much shit for it he abandoned ship lol
I wonder what happens to the 6k when he doesn't make his goal.......
Quote from: Flare65 on 04/19/2015, 10:30 PMI wonder what happens to the 6k when he doesn't make his goal.......
I assume the money would get refunded to the people who donated. According to the indiegogo page the money is only paid to MJ if he makes the $50,000 goal.
Quote from: guest on 04/19/2015, 10:38 PMQuote from: Flare65 on 04/19/2015, 10:30 PMI wonder what happens to the 6k when he doesn't make his goal.......
I assume the money would get refunded to the people who donated. According to the indiegogo page the money is only paid to MJ if he makes the $50,000 goal.
I don't think it actually charges anyone until the entire goal is met. Its pretty much like a pledge to pay.
i figured he wouldn't make it. 50k is way too much to ask from a fan base.
I want to see the second video...has anyone saved it/re-uploaded it? Or would Jesus easily be able to get that removed from ToobYou...
Only thing worse than Metal Jesus: twenty-six pages of people talking about Metal Jesus.
Quote from: guest on 04/20/2015, 05:58 PMOnly thing worse than Metal Jesus: twenty-six pages of people talking about Metal Jesus.
Tell me more...
Quote from: esteban on 04/20/2015, 07:12 PMQuote from: guest on 04/20/2015, 05:58 PMOnly thing worse than Metal Jesus: twenty-six pages of people talking about Metal Jesus.
Tell me more...
Damnit Esteban, now we're at 27 pages.
I told youtube to hide this mess from my view, and still he manages to crawl into my lists now and again...ugh.
Maybe it's because of this very thread...
He appeared on my toast this morning.
Anyone catch the goatee that he's sporting now? I think it's an attempt at chin definition. Sorry, I know that's mean...
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 04/22/2015, 07:06 PMAnyone catch the goatee that he's sporting now? I think it's an attempt at chin definition. Sorry, I know that's mean...
I think it looks good. So much so that I'm willing to overlook all his past indiscretions. Yay!
#Party
(https://i.imgur.com/XiuMcYW.jpg)
Quote from: esteban on 04/19/2015, 06:26 AMAVGN is a flawed show, but it often manages to be entertaining, DESPITE ITSELF.
I would tell most folks: watch it and decide for yourself. Look past the obvious stupidity and you will find some genuinely creative and entertaining moments. However, everyone's crap:quality ratio is different, and you might not be able to tolerate all the crap.
The key problem is that Rolfe is not convincing in his role as AVGN—he tries way too hard to drink and curse and be revolting...but he simply cannot pull off this character.
So, instead of enjoying the juvenile antics of the AVGN, I always found myself cringing: "Wow, this is just painful to watch. I feel so embarrassed for this guy." I feel the same way when AVGN is gross and shocking without any wit or purpose. Let's be clear: any idiot can conceive and create vulgar/revolting content—that takes zero talent. However, I do respect folks who produce genuinely engaging/creative content, and Rolfe *certainly* does this, too.
My problem, I guess, is that his quality:crap (literally) ratio could easily be higher. Easily. I can't help but feel that he spent years pandering to the lowest-common-denominator audience, simply to appeal to the widest audience possible (this is the approach of all mainstream media, of course...Rolfe simply operated on a smaller scale).
Thankfully, if you can stomach the tripe forced upon you in every episode, AVGN usually rewards you and can be genuinely funny. And creative.
FOR THE RECORD, I FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT NOSTALGIA CRITIC, except that Nostalgia Critic is has vastly superior critiques (compared to AVGN) that are well-reasoned and supported with evidence. Even though I often disagree with Nostalgia Critic, I respect the way he presents and supports his arguments...he has a focus (thesis or narrative) and sticks to it. The show has struck a wonderful balance between seriousness:entertainment.
It's entertainment, first and foremost, but there are deeper levels, too.
AVGN never consistently reached this level of critique.
I'll stop now...
It's a fair criticism.
Quote from: Gentlegamer on 04/19/2015, 07:53 AMAVGN reviews The Toxic Avenger, with special guest Lloyd Kaufman, founder of Troma
(https://web.archive.org/web/20130529115406im_/http://i.minus.com/iTecKweKczaq1.gif)
:lol: :lol:
You were sayin', este ?
Ugh...
http://youtu.be/yVqz-sTzvHs
How does that guy have over 50k subscribers?!?
Quote from: Dicer on 04/23/2015, 08:30 AMUgh...
http://youtu.be/yVqz-sTzvHs
'Someone just handed me this console that I don't really know much about, so I'm just gonna make it all up on the fly and post this as an informative video'.
I don't care for that guy. He talks waaaaaay too much and it takes him forever to get to the point. His views are also extremely questionable. He was reviewing a SCART RGB to HDMI converter and he was so enamored by it it wasn't even funny. Looking for a solution myself I tried it, got the same exact thing in and it just wasn't good enough. Maybe he has low standards I don't know. It took close to a half hour of him talking about it (or at least it seemed like it) before he even actually tried it. I ended up just going with the Framemeister for recording a lot of Game Sack instead of some cheap Chinese piece of crap.
people seem to love him for some reason. like this:
https://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?54494-A-youtuber-who-i-recommend-Adam-Koralik (https://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?54494-A-youtuber-who-i-recommend-Adam-Koralik)
My guess is its mostly younger kids watching him. I have watched some of his videos and he does seem to ramble on and have no clue what hes talking about a lot of the time. He has one video where he teaches people how to disable the NES10 chip by jamming a screwdriver behind the leg and popping the leg off. He really should not be recommending people do that.
http://youtu.be/AHcxbC_fKe4&t=8m29s
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 04/23/2015, 01:58 PMI don't care for that guy. He talks waaaaaay too much and it takes him forever to get to the point. His views are also extremely questionable. He was reviewing a SCART RGB to HDMI converter and he was so enamored by it it wasn't even funny. Looking for a solution myself I tried it, got the same exact thing in and it just wasn't good enough. Maybe he has low standards I don't know. It took close to a half hour of him talking about it (or at least it seemed like it) before he even actually tried it. I ended up just going with the Framemeister for recording a lot of Game Sack instead of some cheap Chinese piece of crap.
Is it wrong I read each and every one of your posts in that game sack voice?
Well if I were to read my own posts out loud they'd sound identical, so no.
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 04/23/2015, 03:11 PMWell if I were to read my own posts out loud they'd sound identical, so no.
Where you referencing Metal Jesus or that other guy who likes to ramble about the Tg-16 and pop the pins off NeS systems with a screwdriver?
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 04/23/2015, 01:58 PMI ended up just going with the Framemeister for recording a lot of Game Sack instead of some cheap Chinese piece of crap.
What do you use to capture the video once it comes out of the Framemeister?
QuoteWhere you referencing Metal Jesus or that other guy who likes to ramble about the Tg-16 and pop the pins off NeS systems with a screwdriver?
The guy who posted directly above me. I don't quote posts directly above mine unless my post ends up on a new page. Or unless I am responding to multiple things. I figure people can figure out who I'm responding to.
QuoteWhat do you use to capture the video once it comes out of the Framemeister?
Elgaddo
If a hairy old dude like Metal Jesus can do a gamer show and get 30k plus views for his sub-par shows, then pretty much every gamer can have their own show and do just as well, if not better.
If you compare Metal Jesus to some of the other weird YouTube gamers that have their own shows, then you can clearly see why I say that his episodes are sub-par at best. Personally I don't enjoy any of his stuff but I guess there are many people that do. :roll:
QuoteIf a hairy old dude like Metal Jesus can do a gamer show and get 30k plus views for his sub-par shows, then pretty much every gamer can have their own show and do just as well, if not better.
If you compare Metal Jesus to some of the other weird YouTube gamers that have their own shows, then you can clearly see why I say that his episodes are sub-par at best. Personally I don't enjoy any of his stuff but I guess there are many people that do.
True but remember he actually does attempt to put out videos that are
A). Consistent
B). Descent sound lighting and some editing to where it isn't a static image of him talking to the viewer from a box with a mound of games with the possibility of avalanche get on top of him.
C). Has other people on regularly to spice things up even if these guest speakers are very hot or miss.
Now I am not defending him and saying what he producing a is in he same league as Turbo Views or Game Sack. But for what he makes it is very watchable to the average YouTube junkie where honestly 90% of the stuff out there in this hobby at lest still screams "I use the same web camera that came with my computer from 2001 and have not bothered to light the video or record my sound bits to where you know what the hell is going on".
^ well yeah, if you put that way then you are right. At least he has an organized gamer show and not just some dude who like you said, is just sitting in a box filled with games behind him/her. Wait, her? Are the are gamer chicks that have their own shows?
Quote^ well yeah, if you put that way then you are right. At least he has an organized gamer show and not just some dude who like you said, is just sitting in a box filled with games behind him/her. Wait, her? Are the are gamer chicks that have their own shows?
Brittany Brambacher. I wouldn't advise watching it. She's not bad on the eyes, but her incessant rambling is annoying as hell. She trys to play up the dumb blonde a little too much too. You were warned.
Quote from: guest on 04/24/2015, 08:43 PMQuote^ well yeah, if you put that way then you are right. At least he has an organized gamer show and not just some dude who like you said, is just sitting in a box filled with games behind him/her. Wait, her? Are the are gamer chicks that have their own shows?
Brittany Brambacher. I wouldn't advise watching it. She's not bad on the eyes, but her incessant rambling is annoying as hell. She tries to play up the dumb blonde a little too much too. You were warned.
Alright, admittedly I just watch some of one of her videos, but like most of the guys getting hate in this thread she just seemed like your average gameplayer. Most of the videos people are flipping out about here I don't understand. It's pretty much like listening to buddies I grew up with talk about games, and I'm cool with that.
Just saw a thread on RR forum where they are discussing the best video gamer shows on youtube. There were more than two dozen replies there and on most of those peoples lists Metal Jesus makes the top 10 BEST on Youtube. He was right up there with PatNESPunk, Game Sack, Turbo Views, Luke Morse, Dankss and some other notable names. To be honest, it's all Greek to me why this is the case. :-k
thanks for the heads up on the Brittany Brambacher chick, I will check it out later.
Are any of you familiar with the the infamous ijustine Portal 2 videos?
QuoteJust saw a thread on RR forum where they are discussing the best video gamer shows on youtube. There were more than two dozen replies there and on most of those peoples lists Metal Jesus makes the top 10 BEST on Youtube. He was right up there with PatNESPunk, Game Sack, Turbo Views, Luke Morse, Dankss and some other notable names. To be honest, it's all Greek to me why this is the case.
Go put my show on the list. :P
Quote from: Gentlegamer on 04/25/2015, 04:21 PMAre any of you familiar with the the infamous ijustine Portal 2 videos?
No
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 04/25/2015, 07:09 PMQuote from: Psycho Alt-Nintega on 04/25/2015, 02:05 AMJust saw a thread on RR forum where they are discussing the best video gamer shows on youtube. There were more than two dozen replies there and on most of those peoples lists Metal Jesus makes the top 10 BEST on Youtube. He was right up there with PatNESPunk, Game Sack, Turbo Views, Luke Morse, Dankss and some other notable names. To be honest, it's all Greek to me why this is the case. :-k
thanks for the heads up on the Brittany Brambacher chick, I will check it out later.
Go put my show on the list. :P
oh hey whats up, I know your shows, great work man!!!
Quote from: Gentlegamer on 04/25/2015, 04:21 PMAre any of you familiar with the the infamous ijustine Portal 2 videos?
I am now, holy crap, lol
Quoteoh hey whats up, I know your shows, great work man!!!
Thanks, man! I was kidding about putting my show on the list though, so I hope you didn't go do that.
I don't mind Metal Jesus myself. He knows his PC gaming, but I take his console segments with a grain of salt. His guests are kinda 'meh', except for Drunken Master Paul.. that guy is funny.
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion => Topic started by: slinkyturd on 12/13/2014, 10:33 PM