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Title: Best voices on the Turbo and/or PCE?
Post by: Joe Redifer on 03/25/2015, 01:16 AM
I may have asked this like 10 years ago, but what game(s) do you think has the best voice quality on the Turbo? I know Andre Pansie Kiss Boxing has been mentioned (or was it Champions Forever?), but is there anything else you feel is technically impressive for the system? Spoken phrases are best. In English or Japanese, it doesn't matter.

And duh, no CD games!
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Post by: Damon Plus on 03/25/2015, 08:56 AM
I've always thought Chase HQ had some pretty good voices before each level.
Title: Re: Best voices on the Turbo and/or PCE?
Post by: DragonmasterDan on 03/25/2015, 09:31 AM
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 03/25/2015, 01:16 AMI may have asked this like 10 years ago, but what game(s) do you think has the best voice quality on the Turbo? I know Andre Pansie Kiss Boxing has been mentioned (or was it Champions Forever?), but is there anything else you feel is technically impressive for the system? Spoken phrases are best. In English or Japanese, it doesn't matter.

And duh, no CD games!
Blazing Lazers very clearly says things like "Homing Miss Isles".
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Post by: Nazi NecroPhile on 03/25/2015, 09:40 AM
Soldier Blade ain't bad.
Title: Re: Best voices on the Turbo and/or PCE?
Post by: Gentlegamer on 03/25/2015, 09:58 AM
Will Pcenginefx get a credit on the Game Sack episode that uses this info?
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Post by: LostFlunky on 03/25/2015, 11:00 AM
Quote from: guest on 03/25/2015, 09:51 AMTV Sports had pretty nice voice.
"Boo! ...ghost..." (TV Sports Hockey)
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Post by: seieienbu on 03/25/2015, 11:06 AM
Street Fighter 2 springs to mind, obviously.  It sounds pretty accurate to the SNES version at least.  Strip Fighter 2 has a bit of spoken audio though I dunno if you'd want to use it for gamesack...
Title: Re: Best voices on the Turbo and/or PCE?
Post by: xcrement5x on 03/25/2015, 11:18 AM
Quote from: DragonmasterDan on 03/25/2015, 09:31 AM
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 03/25/2015, 01:16 AMI may have asked this like 10 years ago, but what game(s) do you think has the best voice quality on the Turbo? I know Andre Pansie Kiss Boxing has been mentioned (or was it Champions Forever?), but is there anything else you feel is technically impressive for the system? Spoken phrases are best. In English or Japanese, it doesn't matter.

And duh, no CD games!
Blazing Lazers very clearly says things like "Homing Miss Isles".
In their defense, Miss Isles is worth homing in on.
Title: Re: Best voices on the Turbo and/or PCE?
Post by: BigusSchmuck on 03/25/2015, 11:35 AM
World Class Baseball? lol
Title: Re: Best voices on the Turbo and/or PCE?
Post by: CrackTiger on 03/25/2015, 12:34 PM
Champions Forever is great and technically runs samples in 6 channels at once.

Lots of Japanese games have samples which sound good, but it's hard to judge because I'm not fluent. Then there are the games with good quality samples all round, but the voices are filtered to sound like a robot (like Fighting Run).

Maybe try to isolate voices from Twinbee and Parodius or the Fire Pro games. Chase HQ is pretty good and the samples are long. SCI might have some too.

I hear different variants of the same story from different people, but the samples might sound better coming out of a CG2 or SGX or perhaps only those systems hooked through a CD-ROM.

What is most impressive and should be noted in any kind of discussion or comparison, is how many decent samples are being played at once at any given time and whether the music has to stop to do it. A Genesis game halting everything to run a single clear sounding sample isn't anywhere near as impressive as a PCE game running 3 - 6 decent samples at once without stopping anything. Especially since the PCE cpu handles all the sound on top of everything else.
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Post by: Nazi NecroPhile on 03/25/2015, 01:16 PM
Does Insanity count?  I know it's on CD, but are the voices adpcm?
Title: Re: Best voices on the Turbo and/or PCE?
Post by: ClodBusted on 03/25/2015, 03:02 PM
Quote from: CrackTiger on 03/25/2015, 12:34 PMWhat is most impressive and should be noted in any kind of discussion or comparison, is how many decent samples are being played at once at any given time and whether the music has to stop to do it.
Now that you've mentioned it, memories of Bart Simpson's Escape from Camp Deadly on the GameBoy come back to my mind. It had voice samples, and everytime one was played, the game stopped.
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Post by: bob on 03/25/2015, 06:14 PM
Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 03/25/2015, 11:35 AMWorld Class Baseball? lol
OW-2!
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Post by: Joe Redifer on 03/25/2015, 07:36 PM
Great suggestions. Did not know Champions Forever had so many simultaneous PCM samples going on. I'll check out Fighting Run. And I'll run, not walk in order to get my hands on World Class Baseball. Insanity doesn't count nor does Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective. :)

Quote from: Gentlegamer on 03/25/2015, 09:58 AMWill Pcenginefx get a credit on the Game Sack episode that uses this info?
Sure if you send me the physical game!
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Post by: VenomMacbeth on 03/25/2015, 09:11 PM
Shubibinman 2/Shockman has pretty good quality samples, although they're quiet.
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Post by: CrackTiger on 03/25/2015, 09:28 PM
Pro Yakyuu Stadium has nice voices if you play the sound rip rom and hear the samples on their own. The music behind them doesn't blend well in-game.

TV Sports games have some decent voices, I know the football one is easiest to hear examples from.

I remember Power Sports/World Sports Competition having nice voice clips, but they are sporadic.
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Post by: BigusSchmuck on 04/11/2015, 04:13 PM
Oh hey, forgot about Jackie Chan! Or the laughter from Devil's Crush from the skull when you lose.
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Post by: Joe Redifer on 04/11/2015, 04:30 PM
What is he saying in Jackie Chan? Doesn't he just scream in pain?
Title: Re: Best voices on the Turbo and/or PCE?
Post by: BigusSchmuck on 04/11/2015, 04:41 PM
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 04/11/2015, 04:30 PMWhat is he saying in Jackie Chan? Doesn't he just scream in pain?
He makes karate (hiya!) noises that echo when you punch. Kind of a interesting sound effect really..
Title: Re: Best voices on the Turbo and/or PCE?
Post by: Joe Redifer on 04/11/2015, 06:26 PM
I was thinking of when he lands in lava.
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Post by: Tatsujin on 04/11/2015, 10:00 PM
Quote from: seieienbu on 03/25/2015, 11:06 AMStreet Fighter 2 springs to mind, obviously.  It sounds pretty accurate to the SNES version at least.  Strip Fighter 2 has a bit of spoken audio though I dunno if you'd want to use it for gamesack...
in fact it sounds even better than the muffled to max-reverbed snes version.
Title: Re: Best voices on the Turbo and/or PCE?
Post by: CrackTiger on 04/12/2015, 06:47 AM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 04/11/2015, 10:00 PM
Quote from: seieienbu on 03/25/2015, 11:06 AMStreet Fighter 2 springs to mind, obviously.  It sounds pretty accurate to the SNES version at least.  Strip Fighter 2 has a bit of spoken audio though I dunno if you'd want to use it for gamesack...
in fact it sounds even better than the muffled to max-reverbed snes version.
The PC Engine and Genesis versions use the same full length clips as the arcade version. The SNES versions use terrible cut-up and sped-up clips before straining them through the SNES hardware adds the muffling and reverb. Screams and destruction effects are also reduced to a short blip painfully echoed over and over. It's just because the first console port appeared on SNES and that most people were used to ports not featuring so much voice that blind nostalgia still leads them to believe that the SNES versions have great samples.

If you can find the voice sample track from that Street Fighter arcade CD soundtrack, it's eerie how close the arcade sounds to the PCE version in quality (separate from the clips being identical) and pretty shocking how much the SNES versions don't even sound like they're from the same game/source.
Title: Re: Best voices on the Turbo and/or PCE?
Post by: esteban on 04/12/2015, 08:08 AM
I learned about the voice samples in SFII than I thought I ever would. :)
Title: Re: Best voices on the Turbo and/or PCE?
Post by: Gentlegamer on 04/12/2015, 11:17 AM
Quote from: guest on 04/12/2015, 06:47 AMThe PC Engine and Genesis versions use the same full length clips as the arcade version. The SNES versions use terrible cut-up and sped-up clips before straining them through the SNES hardware adds the muffling and reverb. Screams and destruction effects are also reduced to a short blip painfully echoed over and over. It's just because the first console port appeared on SNES and that most people were used to ports not featuring so much voice that blind nostalgia still leads them to believe that the SNES versions have great samples.

If you can find the voice sample track from that Street Fighter arcade CD soundtrack, it's eerie how close the arcade sounds to the PCE version in quality (separate from the clips being identical) and pretty shocking how much the SNES versions don't even sound like they're from the same game/source.
So the arcade had the scratchy voices like Genesis and PCE?
Title: Re: Best voices on the Turbo and/or PCE?
Post by: Anthony1 on 04/14/2015, 07:46 PM
Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 03/25/2015, 11:35 AMWorld Class Baseball? lol
Yeah, talk about garbled speech...


You could barely understand anything said during World Class Baseball, but at least the background music was awesome...
Title: Re: Best voices on the Turbo and/or PCE?
Post by: Joe Redifer on 04/14/2015, 08:49 PM
I thought the only things World Class Baseball even says are SAFE and OUT-O!
Title: Re: Best voices on the Turbo and/or PCE?
Post by: Dicer on 04/14/2015, 10:38 PM
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 04/11/2015, 06:26 PMI was thinking of when he lands in lava.
Always sounded like "asshole" to me...
Title: Re: Best voices on the Turbo and/or PCE?
Post by: imparanoic on 04/15/2015, 12:16 AM
Quote from: Dicer on 04/14/2015, 10:38 PM
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 04/11/2015, 06:26 PMI was thinking of when he lands in lava.
Always sounded like "asshole" to me...
Not sure about the us version, could be change

But based on my Chinese ethnicity, it appears that that Jackie chan states Cantonese ' ai ya' which is close to English ' oh no/ohh' in colloquial terms on the Japanese pc engine version
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Post by: imparanoic on 04/15/2015, 12:19 AM
Quote from: Dicer on 04/14/2015, 10:38 PM
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 04/11/2015, 06:26 PMI was thinking of when he lands in lava.
Always sounded like "asshole" to me...
off the topic, in regards to swearing, the uk developed ps2 game " the getaway' has real ' uncensored' Cantonese swear words probably due to the mature ( us) or 18 rating of the game