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Title: Even dumber than collecting sealed games! Have a look at these fine gentlemen
Post by: ClodBusted on 11/12/2015, 02:06 AM
I think the title says it all.
http://www.tamiyaclub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=78040 (http://www.tamiyaclub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=78040)
NIB unbuilt RC kit hoarders.
Title: Re: Even dumber than collecting sealed games! Have a look at these fine gentlemen
Post by: LostFlunky on 11/12/2015, 07:59 AM
There seem to be some people on there with common sense too, aside from the fact that they are obsessed with little cars.

Also - spotted a "Clodbuster" in one of the pix: :lol:

(https://web.archive.org/web/20161227030030im_/http://www.spiegel.de/pics/90/0,1020,1122790,00.jpg)

Sometimes I need a "Mammoth Dump" truck too...
Title: Even dumber than collecting sealed games! Have a look at these fine gentlemen
Post by: VenomMacbeth on 11/12/2015, 09:43 AM
BLAZING BLAZERS!
Title: Re: Even dumber than collecting sealed games! Have a look at these fine gentlemen
Post by: LostFlunky on 11/12/2015, 09:57 AM
Quote from: VenomMacbeth on 11/12/2015, 09:43 AMBLAZING BLAZERS!
How did I miss that?  It's like Bizarro World!
Title: Re: Even dumber than collecting sealed games! Have a look at these fine gentlemen
Post by: Nazi NecroPhile on 11/12/2015, 10:14 AM
I don't see how that's any worse than a shelf of sealed games.  Either way you have a pile of stuff not being enjoyed as it was meant to be.
Title: Re: Even dumber than collecting sealed games! Have a look at these fine gentlemen
Post by: synbiosfan on 11/12/2015, 11:35 AM
What a waste!

At least there's a market (atm) for sealed games.

Do people collect old rc toys?

Title: Re: Even dumber than collecting sealed games! Have a look at these fine gentlemen
Post by: xcrement5x on 11/12/2015, 12:00 PM
Lol, there is a part in that thread where they talk about the best way to store the new kits that are vintage so that the plastic container that holds parts does not crack over time.  Pretty crazy, but I've come to realize there are people willing to spend money on just about anything. 

I can hardly talk though, I make sure to store all my Sega CD/Saturn stuff vertically to prevent the manuals from bending over time or the cases from cracking. 
Title: Re: Even dumber than collecting sealed games! Have a look at these fine gentlemen
Post by: CGQuarterly on 11/12/2015, 12:04 PM
I don't think it's any dumber; just equally dumb.
Title: Re: Even dumber than collecting sealed games! Have a look at these fine gentlemen
Post by: Gentlegamer on 11/12/2015, 12:09 PM
These are the same people who move between various "collecting hobbies," some have which entered classic games.

You can see it on Nintendo Age in the intro forum where they out themselves as a literal stereotype.
Title: Re: Even dumber than collecting sealed games! Have a look at these fine gentlemen
Post by: xcrement5x on 11/12/2015, 01:34 PM
Quote from: Gentlegamer on 11/12/2015, 12:09 PMThese are the same people who move between various "collecting hobbies," some have which entered classic games.

You can see it on Nintendo Age in the intro forum where they out themselves as a literal stereotype.
I can't make it long in the NintendoAge forum before some post starts jabbering my jibs and I have to take leave again.  Facebook isn't much better but at least there are not like 40+ pages threads of people wanking over H-seams.
Title: Re: Even dumber than collecting sealed games! Have a look at these fine gentlemen
Post by: ClodBusted on 11/12/2015, 02:35 PM
Shouldn't be hard for you guys to point out which alias I might be in that thread.
And remember, all these boxes that are posted by others do not contain preassembled models, they are all 1/10 or 1/12 scale RC kits that once were meant to be build and run. Think of every NIB shown commands at least 100 bucks or more now in auctions (not BIN), some even more than 1000$. Insane.
Title: Re: Even dumber than collecting sealed games! Have a look at these fine gentlemen
Post by: SignOfZeta on 11/12/2015, 03:32 PM
Yeah...I guess. With models there is a lot of grey area. I've never met anyone who is actively into models that doesn't have a backlog of kits that will outlast them. It just...ends up that way. They are easy to buy but take ages to build. It's pretty handy at times though, to have lots of kits to rob parts from. Games don't really interact with each other very much, they usually just sorta get played one at a time, but an avid modeler might use parts from six different kits to make something. There also isn't much point in owning more than one copy of any specific game release, but many people have built the same kit eight different ways. Maybe to improve on previous work once they aquired more experience or to build different versions of the car. Race version, stock version, rusted out version, etc. Then keep in mind that a lot of the American model kit manufactures have been cranking out the same kits for 50 years now only changing the box art and a few details. Maybe you're buying reissues and building them as fast as they make them, but you still want a mint example of that one version that is your favorite.

I have some older Imai Macross kits I bought only for the box. The kits themselves aren't very good and I've built almost every single one of them at one point in my life, in some cases two or three times. In 2015, believe me, the box art, which is extremely good and totally unlike modern box art, is the best thing about these kits.

Of course, all this applies quite a bit more to scale modeling more than RC since RC is more about the whole "RC" aspect more than detail and cosmetic customization most of the time, but then that has its own grey areas. If you want a MIB Frog because that was your first kit, fine, but if you are collecting the entire 1981 Tamiya catalog with no intent to ever build any of them...that's pretty dumb. Try Jesus or something because you have some baggage.

But then think of it this way, the Frog kinda sucks. The axles blow out on the things, everything is super heavy and if it taps into anything while running shit breaks off. This is probably a good kit to just leave in the box forever as a museum of 1970s RC technology considering you can get something that destroys it in every single way for $150 now, prebuilt even.

So, basically I understand people have their little anchors to the past, but nobody has a personal relationship with 450 unbuild NIB model kits. That's just total colectardation.
Title: Re: Even dumber than collecting sealed games! Have a look at these fine gentlemen
Post by: Jason_dicarlo85 on 11/12/2015, 04:08 PM
I caught a lot of shit/hate on the Nintendo Facebook page a few years ago for opening a few sealed GameCube games I had found at a yardsale ... You woulda thought I was breaking the discs in half with some of the comments I was getting
Title: Re: Even dumber than collecting sealed games! Have a look at these fine gentlemen
Post by: blueraven on 11/12/2015, 09:54 PM
Yeah that's just insane. I guess ppl collect sealie everything. I think the poster may be making fun of those guys though, the minivan comment and "home defense system" gif? C'mon.

Games you at least interact with on some level. I guess if you were obsessed with farm equipment or cars as many of us are, you could build "relationships" to the models.

I built models for a year or so when I was in middle school and most of the time finished them. If they sat on the shelf for more than a month it would drive me kind of crazy... And I never got to the cut-and-paste stage where I would be building a street rod or crazy behemoth-like airship, although I knew a few people who were that kind of insane/smart.

And then there's Warhammer 40K...

So I guess there are sealie collectards in EVERY "hobbyist" group.
Title: Re: Even dumber than collecting sealed games! Have a look at these fine gentlemen
Post by: ClodBusted on 11/13/2015, 01:42 AM
The OP of the linked thread, Hibernaculum, is dead serious about his vintage RC collectardism. He even despises official (!) re-release kits, despite them not being bootlegs/fake repros.

Every once in a while, people get sick of him and his extremely narrow sighted view on the hobby, and he leaves for another forum just to come back a few months or years later. Most other RC fans there are just in for the fun and love of the hobby, which means building, tuning and driving with friends.

People like Hibernaculum are bad, cause he let other people feel like idiots for not following his self imposed rules.
Title: Re: Even dumber than collecting sealed games! Have a look at these fine gentlemen
Post by: blueraven on 11/13/2015, 01:46 PM
Quote from: guest on 11/13/2015, 01:42 AMThe OP of the linked thread, Hibernaculum, is dead serious about his vintage RC collectardism. He even despises official (!) re-release kits, despite them not being bootlegs/fake repros.
Building them was the only fun part imo.

Quote from: guest on 11/13/2015, 01:42 AMEvery once in a while, people get sick of him and his extremely narrow sighted view on the hobby, and he leaves for another forum just to come back a few months or years later. Most other RC fans there are just in for the fun and love of the hobby, which means building, tuning and driving with friends.

People like Hibernaculum are bad, cause he let other people feel like idiots for not following his self imposed rules.
Wow. That's pretty sad.
Title: Re: Even dumber than collecting sealed games! Have a look at these fine gentlemen
Post by: o.pwuaioc on 11/13/2015, 09:21 PM
Quote from: NecroPhile on 11/12/2015, 10:14 AMI don't see how that's any worse than a shelf of sealed games.  Either way you have a pile of stuff not being enjoyed as it was meant to be.
Only difference I see is that this takes up more space, but you're dead right, but are moronic.
Title: Re: Even dumber than collecting sealed games! Have a look at these fine gentlemen
Post by: EvilEvoIX on 11/13/2015, 09:29 PM
I love and still have my Tyco Bandit, what  Christmas that was!  This type of hoarding I do not get.
Title: Re: Even dumber than collecting sealed games! Have a look at these fine gentlemen
Post by: synbiosfan on 11/13/2015, 09:56 PM
People collect everything.

If I walked into a basement full of toys from my childhood,  I'd be freaking out. Of course a fight would ensue as I started opening shit.
Title: Re: Even dumber than collecting sealed games! Have a look at these fine gentlemen
Post by: Jason_dicarlo85 on 11/18/2015, 07:19 PM
I couldn't imagine keeping toys or games sealed throughout my childhood
Title: Re: Even dumber than collecting sealed games! Have a look at these fine gentlemen
Post by: o.pwuaioc on 11/22/2015, 11:18 PM
Quote from: Jason_dicarlo85 on 11/18/2015, 07:19 PMI couldn't imagine keeping toys or games sealed throughout my childhood
I wish I had been able to, if for no other reason than to pass on down to my own kids. Most of the junk though is junk.
Title: Re: Even dumber than collecting sealed games! Have a look at these fine gentlemen
Post by: coryoon on 11/23/2015, 07:28 PM
Ok maybe collecting NIB Tamiya stuff can get out of hand, like any other hobby, but it would be pretty nice to find a mint unopened 80's Tamiya kit, I can certainly see the appeal of having an untouched kit for posterity, or buying a vintage kit in order to just make it and display it on the shelf.

I used to have a Tamiya Madcap back in the day and I had nearly as much fun making the thing, it was great to make my own working little car from bits - that way you knew exactly  what to do when stuff broke.

Unfortunately Tamiya must have made a small fortune from me, as certain plastic parts use to break too easily, got knows how many Tamiya front ends I went through!

To be fair, whilst I like Tamiya, their stuff was not really build to last, I think I went on to get a Schaumacher (sp) and  that thing was built proper, (alu chassis, better plastics etc) and that was more economic in the long run.

Funny how nostalgia works though, I think I am going to try to get another Tamiya kit for old times sake and maybe never run it!
Title: Re: Even dumber than collecting sealed games! Have a look at these fine gentlemen
Post by: SignOfZeta on 11/23/2015, 07:52 PM
Tamiya reissues kits constantly, even the RC ones. Not all of them of course, but they do do this. In the scale world in 1/24 and 1/12 I'm not sure if anything from Tamiya stays out of production forever. They even have a "classic 80s" or something line of reissues that includes the 1983 Mugen CR-X Pro, which I'm working on right now. I'm also on-again-off-again working on a Lotus 72D. It's the 2012 reissue with photo etch parts (yay!) but missing JP sponsership (boo, but easily fixed with aftermarket decals).

Tamiya is a really amazing company. I'm not sure if they are THE BEST at anything (maybe super thin liquid plastic cement) but they do an amazing job of covering all the basses. You can build some really impressive stuff using nothing but Tamiya products since they make glue, paint, airbrushes, compressors, sanding sticks, clear coat, spray booths, you name it.
Title: Re: Even dumber than collecting sealed games! Have a look at these fine gentlemen
Post by: synbiosfan on 11/23/2015, 09:01 PM
Right now Kraft mac & cheese has a Star Wars commercial where a collector shows his son a room full of nib Star Wars collectibles.

There are two endings.

One where the kid tells his dad that mom made Star Wars m&c last night. Dad looks to the stairs yelling Leia!

The other ending has the kid saying food you can't eat, toys that aren't played with, "it's a room of lies."
Title: Re: Even dumber than collecting sealed games! Have a look at these fine gentlemen
Post by: xcrement5x on 11/24/2015, 11:30 AM
Quote from: synbiosfan on 11/23/2015, 09:01 PMRight now Kraft mac & cheese has a Star Wars commercial where a collector shows his son a room full of nib Star Wars collectibles.

There are two endings.

One where the kid tells his dad that mom made Star Wars m&c last night. Dad looks to the stairs yelling Leia!

The other ending has the kid saying food you can't eat, toys that aren't played with, "it's a room of lies."
LOL!  I had to find these after you posted this

Leia: http://youtu.be/ov6-F92TQug

Room of Lies: http://youtu.be/7roF7YNzAgs

Also, you can explore the room itself, kind of neat:
http://www.kraftstarwarsroom.com/#explore (http://www.kraftstarwarsroom.com/#explore)

The music in this commercial in the beginning reminds me a bit of Indian Jones too ;)
Title: Re: Even dumber than collecting sealed games! Have a look at these fine gentlemen
Post by: o.pwuaioc on 12/12/2015, 07:26 PM
Considering John Williams did both Star Wars and Indiana Jones, that's a pretty reasonable opinion.
Title: Re: Even dumber than collecting sealed games! Have a look at these fine gentlemen
Post by: blueraven on 12/20/2015, 12:11 AM
Han carries a bullwhip in Empire.

PREMONITION?!?!!?