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Title: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: exodus on 07/19/2016, 02:35 PM
I couldn't find such a list, so I'd like to start a thread (if there is a list, please direct me to it!).

Specifically, I'm interested in SCD/ACD games that give you something other than an error message when you insert the disc. Now that I've gone through my 134 SCD/ACD games to test them out, I wish I'd logged what *all* of them do, not just the unusual ones, but superpcenginegrafx has a partial list (http://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/system_card_warning_warehouse.html) for a few of them.

So, here's what I found, please feel free to add.

Minigames:
Dracula X - cute/weird action minigame

Dragon Slayer (PCE) - music player and monster compendium

Exile II (PCE) - if you press the I button, Rumi's "ne <3" speech bubble blinks (hey, it's interaction)

Solid Force – characters are looking at the screen of an RPG - you get the option to "quit" or "continue" - if you choose continue, a giant foot in high heels and stockings kicks you.

Seisenshi Denshou: Jantaku no Kishi - has a full majhong match to play.

*UNTESTED* Tenshi no Uta II: Datenshi no Uta - appears to have a one-off battle? Could just be a static screen. Can someone confirm?

Ryuuko no Ken (art of fighting) - casino/slot match where you're trying to slice daikon.

and then there's *basically every backup warning message* which has interaction as well.

No error message:
Alnam no kiba - just hangs on "just a moment" forever

Baby Jo - black screen, then resets to "push run button"

Psychic Visual Detective Series 3 Aya - shows the DataWest logo, then tries to run the game - total mess of visual artifacts, but music plays fine, still accepts inputs. Super weird!

Psychic Visual Detective Series 1 Orgel – about the same as above, except doesn't play music, no color in artifacts.

Blackhole Assault - intro works great, but once you get into the game, it's pixel salad. accepts all inputs and seems to run the actual game, though I have trouble getting past the menus!

God Panic - black screen for a while, then visual error plus clicking.

Magicoal – shows the NEC logo, then black screen

Rayxanber III – you can totally play the whole dang game, it's just extremely visually corrupted.

Slime World – sometimes visual errors, sometimes nothing.

Travel Able – Riot logo screen then reset. Very odd to not have a screen in such a late game!

Yuyu Hakusho – just resets to the title screen

And here are some games that aren't SCDs at all, or are "secretly" dual-compatible, and work just fine on system 1.0
Builderland
Record of Lodoss War (SCD version)
Macross 2036 (this one really surprised me!!)
Ranma 1/2 DATŌ, GANSO MUSABETSU KAKUTŌ-RYŪ!
Yawara!

Some games I didn't try, usually because I don't own them:
Jim Power (mine is sealed and suddenly that game has gone up in price so I felt weird opening it!), but I reckon that one has nothing just like the other Micro World stuff.
Nexzr (non-caravan)
Sylphia
Anearth Fantasy Stories Taikenban
Fire Pro Female Wrestling
Far East of Eden: Kabuki Itouryodan (I own this, where did it go ;_;)
Madou Monogatari
Linda3

I'd also like to note that moonlight lady has a really cute long animated sequence for their error message! also that disc 2 of galaxy fraulein yuna has the same error message as yuna 2.
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: Nazi NecroPhile on 07/19/2016, 03:04 PM
Neat thread.  Are you trying 'em with a 2.x card as well to see if there's any difference?
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: CrackTiger on 07/19/2016, 03:08 PM
Quote from: Nulltard on 07/19/2016, 02:48 PMNice work. I believe  Blacktiger has a bunch of these archived at superpcenginegrafx.com as well.
It's .net now.
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: Nazi NecroPhile on 07/19/2016, 03:11 PM
.... and it's linked in the original post.

Hooked on phonics did not work for nully.  :P
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: Nazi NecroPhile on 07/19/2016, 03:48 PM
Not at all; it just tastes weird.

But I like salt and vinegar potato chips, so go figure.
Title: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: esteban on 07/19/2016, 04:21 PM
Quote from: guest on 07/19/2016, 03:48 PMNot at all; it just tastes weird.

But I like salt and vinegar potato chips, so go figure.
I love salt-n-vinegar chips, even the reduced fat ones!
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: exodus on 07/19/2016, 04:30 PM
I've just been trying with system 1.0, because I don't have a 2.0! I should get one. But I have tested things like - do ACD games that show a 1.0/2.0 card in their error screen show a different error or card if you've got 3.0 in there? and the answer to that question is no. So this is total non-science here, but my assumption is it simply checks for "correct card" vs "incorrect card" and goes from there.

But since there are a lot of unusual behaviors, who knows! I'd love to see if the games that don't have error messages react differently to the 2.0.
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: TheClash603 on 07/20/2016, 08:31 AM
Any screen shots or videos you can link to the Dracula X mini game?  I never knew of this.
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: bob on 07/20/2016, 09:30 AM
EDIT:  Removed.  Just looked at other site and it's already there.
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: Nazi NecroPhile on 07/20/2016, 10:01 AM
http://youtu.be/bhjw_MYYrJ4
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: CrackTiger on 07/20/2016, 11:37 AM
Quote from: exodus on 07/19/2016, 04:30 PMI've just been trying with system 1.0, because I don't have a 2.0! I should get one. But I have tested things like - do ACD games that show a 1.0/2.0 card in their error screen show a different error or card if you've got 3.0 in there? and the answer to that question is no. So this is total non-science here, but my assumption is it simply checks for "correct card" vs "incorrect card" and goes from there.

But since there are a lot of unusual behaviors, who knows! I'd love to see if the games that don't have error messages react differently to the 2.0.
The 1.0-only games show how some of the revisions (2.0, 2.1, 2.2, etc) might cause unique issues with various games.

If you have a Turbo Everdrive, then you have all of the <3.0 cards.
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: SignOfZeta on 07/20/2016, 12:56 PM
Vasteel 2's intro looks for everything that could possibly be plugged into your machine and lists it. Memory Base 128, multi-tap, etc.
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: CrackTiger on 07/20/2016, 01:36 PM
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 07/20/2016, 12:56 PMVasteel 2's intro looks for everything that could possibly be plugged into your machine and lists it. Memory Base 128, multi-tap, etc.
That's the best part of the game! :P
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: bob on 07/20/2016, 03:47 PM
Quote from: guest on 07/20/2016, 10:01 AMhttp://youtu.be/bhjw_MYYrJ4
that would have made a great entry to the pce screenshot challenge.
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: exodus on 07/20/2016, 03:55 PM
ah, right! I forgot that about vasteel 2. So I guess they can look up and tell the specific difference if they choose to.

I don't have an everdrive, otherwise I'd test it all! Someone else can help with that :P
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: esteban on 07/20/2016, 03:55 PM
Quote from: gynt on 07/20/2016, 03:47 PM
Quote from: guest on 07/20/2016, 10:01 AMhttp://youtu.be/bhjw_MYYrJ4
that would have made a great entry to the pce screenshot challenge.
I think someone did use it....years ago.
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: CrackTiger on 07/20/2016, 04:46 PM
Quote from: gynt on 07/20/2016, 03:47 PM
Quote from: NecroPhile on 07/20/2016, 10:01 AMhttp://youtu.be/bhjw_MYYrJ4
that would have made a great entry to the pce screenshot challenge.
Most old timers know it too well and I think it was used.
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: bob on 07/20/2016, 04:48 PM
Quote from: guest on 07/20/2016, 04:46 PM
Quote from: gynt on 07/20/2016, 03:47 PM
Quote from: guest on 07/20/2016, 10:01 AMhttp://youtu.be/bhjw_MYYrJ4
that would have made a great entry to the pce screenshot challenge.
Most old timers know it too well and I think it was used.
yeah, i never paid much attention to the thread.
so i guess the 5 old timers left would get it pretty quickly.  lol
personally, i never knew about this since i dont own any of the system cards prior to 3.0
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: TurboXray on 07/20/2016, 10:00 PM
There are a handful of bi-compatible CD games, IIRC. Terraforming is another one.
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: SignOfZeta on 07/20/2016, 11:16 PM
Quote from: gynt on 07/20/2016, 04:48 PM
Quote from: guest on 07/20/2016, 04:46 PM
Quote from: gynt on 07/20/2016, 03:47 PM
Quote from: guest on 07/20/2016, 10:01 AMhttp://youtu.be/bhjw_MYYrJ4
that would have made a great entry to the pce screenshot challenge.
Most old timers know it too well and I think it was used.
yeah, i never paid much attention to the thread.
so i guess the 5 old timers left would get it pretty quickly.  lol
personally, i never knew about this since i dont own any of the system cards prior to 3.0
You don't really have to be much of an old timer. That's a really popular thread that's been going for years. A lot of people have seen it.
Title: Re: List of unusual behaviors for SCD/ACD games with System Card 1.0 inserted
Post by: exodus on 10/23/2016, 03:23 PM
updated to reflect some stuff learned from this list http://www.vgmuseum.com/features/warn2/