I am catching up on Star Trek, I've never watched any of it so for the past few months I've filled white noise with Star Trek Next Generation - I've gotten to where I really like it. Episode 22 of season three made me laugh when I realized it was a about collectarding to a certain extent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Most_Toys
I can't post a link to it, but I was wondering if anyone else has watched this and imagined collectors of videogames in the future :P
Classic episode.
Wouldn't class myself as a trekkie but always have just loved Star Trek TNG.
Recently watched it from the first episode all they way through to near the end now.
I got the TNG bluray set for X-Mas. Once I start an episode, it draws me in more than ever and each scene is now an easter egg hunt.
Should this get moved to chit chat?! I thought I was being controversial using slanderous terms and callin out names.
http://youtu.be/HksJCN5YPSc
When I saw this I was reminded of how the same story had been used in a million other stories, mostly comics. There is a 2nd Doctor story with the same plot, IIRC. It's been at least 5 years since I did a run through Next Gen though so maybe it was before collectards had really arrived in the video game world.
Btw, Trekonomics was the book of the year. Go get it. It's thin and not very expensive.
As for DS9...sorry. The characters range from unappealing to repellent. They seem to fight and squabble with each other more than an episode of ER. The make-up is dumber than ever. They don't have a ship to speak of and rarely explore anything. Half the cast is more racist than a Trump benefit for cops, etc. I realize it has its high points, but it's also lousy with Ferengi.
I would make a good source for a Laserdisc gun game because I want to shoot almost everyone on screen.
I like TNG. The most toys is a great episode. I blasted through all the episodes and all the DS9 episodes last year. DS9 hmm. I used to detest it but now it's my favourite. I find it compelling. Now watching voyager. Skipping a lot of episodes. So much filler that adds nothing.
I am going to have to rewatch the episode, I watched TNG when it originally aired...and I never missed an episode.
TNG was a big event in my family because I grew up watching the original series with my dad...one of the few times I could watch TV when I was a kid (normally, the TV was in the basement and not used).
Of course my brothers and I sneaked into the basement and watched TV when my dad was at work...but think of all the stuff we couldn't watch because it aired during "Prime Time."
Anyway...I didn't get to see the first season of TNG in *color* until the second or third season?
Yeah. B/w TV.
I don't think we got a color TV until...1986-87.
This anecdote may explain some of my obsessions.
PBS, Dr. Who, Star Trek.
For the record: OG > TNG.
FOREVER AND EVER.
Amen.
Back on topic...
COLLECTARDISM, as Zeta mentioned, has been a facet/gag in many TV shows/pop culture...
BERT COLLECTS PAPER CLIPS.
http://youtu.be/mE2QegemD-I
'Nuff said.
:)
I've been hoping (dreaming) for years they would bring back TNG, with all the the original cast, before they (Patrick Stewart mainly) was too old or passed away.
Also speaking of DS9 aren't the Ferengi the very definition of collectards?? I'm sure we've said this before on the forum.
Gold pressed latinum = VGA graded video games
tng-221-scheming-ferengi-qol-a.webp
Trekonomics makes a pretty good case for Ferengi and therefore DS9, I have to admit. There is more to it than I realized before I read the book. However I still can't stand to watch the show.
On the other hand, I went all the way through Enterprise and while it is cringe worthy on occasion it's still pretty good.
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On the other hand, I went all the way through Enterprise and while it is cringe worthy on occasion it's still pretty good./quote]
I have never given enterprise a real chance, don't think I've even seen an episode all the way through . I shall do once I plough through voyager.
My friend just watched all of Voyager and gave it his endorsement. I watched basically every TNG when it was new and never moved past, which series should I go to next? Are these streaming on any service?
Quote from: TheClash603 on 01/14/2017, 04:44 PMMy friend just watched all of Voyager and gave it his endorsement. I watched basically every TNG when it was new and never moved past, which series should I go to next? Are these streaming on any service?
If you want a thrilling, gripping story arc DS9 is the way to go. Give it time , it builds and I think the character development is most in depth. All star treks are on Netflix. Well in U.K. they are.
I have seen every episode of TNG 2-4 times.
Quote from: wildfruit on 01/14/2017, 04:47 PMIf you want a thrilling, gripping story arc DS9 is the way to go. Give it time , it builds and I think the character development is most in depth. All star treks are on Netflix. Well in U.K. they are.
Agreed!
I have seen every episode of DS9 twice. I really like it, and will get into that in subsequent posts. Zeta is totally right: there's no fucking ship other than the Defiant (i mean come on... its a shuttlecraft on steroids), the character development is trash in the first two seasons, the racism is everywhere and there is also an amount of religious Zealotry with half of the characters... Jean Luc Picard turned his back on Miles O'Brien twice in one episode of TNG because of his Cardassian hatred... to show the difference between the two series. In the later episodes... "The Magnificent Ferengi" comes to mind... Iggy Pop makes an appearance as a Vorta. The whole series is based on conflict in an occupied space station and a war between the Bajorans and Cardassians. I know a lot of ppl hate Quark's bar episodes, but "Who Mourns for Morn" was also a great, wacky offbeat episode. I guess it's the unconventional lack and subsequent character development from TNG that got me into it. Also the rigidity of Starfleet protocol being absent until season 4 made it pretty chaotic. Anyway, I wouldn't be so hasty to dismiss DS9. It's unconventional, and gets better until the last season. The fact that they packed the war into two episodes was mind-boggling. They could have had a full season on all of that shit.
I always liked this meme as a DND junkie summarizing the difference of the characters:
(http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/Rookstower/internet-memes/ac-ds9_zpskly6ewkr.jpg)
I have seen every episode of Voyager twice.
I have never watched Enterprise.
Found another collectarded episode. Seinfeld season 9 episode 6, the merve Griffith show. The glass is shattered!
I will say this for the record. The Vic Fontaine episodes are terrible. I would rather eat old boot leather than watch them. Its like the writers just went on vacation or a dozen jelly doughnuts in and still no ideas... Although it is pretty cool when Worf trashes the holodeck, lol.
And Garak is badass. I won't give you any spoilers other than that.
TNG as a whole is fantastic, sure there is some cheese but it's a product of it's time...
I'll also say Voyager get unfairly shat on, Janeway was a badass bitch.
Tea, Earl Grey, Hot.
Quote from: Gredler on 01/13/2017, 08:57 PMI am catching up on Star Trek, I've never watched any of it so for the past few months I've filled white noise with Star Trek Next Generation - I've gotten to where I really like it. Episode 22 of season three made me laugh when I realized it was a about collectarding to a certain extent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Most_Toys
I can't post a link to it, but I was wondering if anyone else has watched this and imagined collectors of videogames in the future :P
BTW Data intended to kill Fajo at the end.
Quote from: Dicer on 01/19/2017, 03:34 PMTNG as a whole is fantastic, sure there is some cheese but it's a product of it's time...
I'll also say Voyager get unfairly shat on, Janeway was a badass bitch.
Voyager is the bomb. And I agree with you that most people shit on it, but the series is so much fun to watch. The Doctor alone makes the later several seasons incredibly entertaining.
+2 for DS9
It takes a season or two to get hooked but once you are in its fantastic. Basically I feel the stories and characters are deeper then any other trek franchise.
Next is Voyager
It really fleshes out the Borg more then STTNG and its really not bad as a whole.
Star Trek Enterprise is meh for me. That being said dont miss out on that one either. Its pretty solid and even though I didnt like it as much as the others I can see that its pretty solid as well
Quote from: guest on 01/29/2017, 02:00 AMQuote from: Dicer on 01/19/2017, 03:34 PMTNG as a whole is fantastic, sure there is some cheese but it's a product of it's time...
I'll also say Voyager get unfairly shat on, Janeway was a badass bitch.
Voyager is the bomb. And I agree with you that most people shit on it, but the series is so much fun to watch. The Doctor alone makes the later several seasons incredibly entertaining.
Tuvix deserved to live!
jk Janeway did the right thing
Quote from: khyron65 on 01/30/2017, 02:09 PM+2 for DS9
It takes a season or two to get hooked but once you are in its fantastic. Basically I feel the stories and characters are deeper then any other trek franchise.
Next is Voyager
Star Trek Enterprise is meh for me. That being said dont miss out on that one either. Its pretty solid and even though I didnt like it as much as the others I can see that its pretty solid as well
Absolutely.
I am currently giving Enterprise a proper go. Did not give it a proper chance when it was actually broadcast. It seems better than I remember. Except for the translator woman. She's not a very good actress and her character is lame. So far.
I could never get past the Michael Bolton theme song for Enterprise.
TNG>>> DS9>> ST V>> OG ST>>>>> Enterprise
Quote from: Otaking on 01/31/2017, 12:48 PMTNG>>> DS9>> ST V>> OG ST>>>>> Enterprise
This guy knows whats up!
I will say this about the original though. I am absolutely fascinated by the use of light and color! so dynamic! This show was made in the early days of color tv, not everyone had one so they way they used light and shadow is amazing to me! For the lucky ones that had color they went overboard and everything is so "bright"
The TOS episode Space Seed is better than the entire Voyager series.
http://youtu.be/pKnttwx0P6I
Quote from: Gentlegamer on 01/31/2017, 05:38 PMThe TOS episode Space Seed is better than the entire Voyager series.
http://youtu.be/pKnttwx0P6I
I watched that last night, I shifted from TNG to TOS and have not regretted it - I will go back to TNG after finishing TOS - but this episode is one of the best yet for sure - KAAAHNN
Here's another great pair of episodes complimenting each other from TOS to TNG:
Journey to Babel
http://youtu.be/eA12wOtr-0k
Sarek
http://youtu.be/FHPtcQSvjxI
Bonus:
Spock and Data, Unification pt 2
http://youtu.be/FRvVbwwRNAQ
Quote from: wildfruit on 01/14/2017, 07:24 AMI like TNG. The most toys is a great episode. I blasted through all the episodes and all the DS9 episodes last year. DS9 hmm. I used to detest it but now it's my favourite. I find it compelling. Now watching voyager. Skipping a lot of episodes. So much filler that adds nothing.
Oh ya voyager! Been so long since I have watched and god bless "7" or was it "9" either way thank you.
Quote from: Otaking on 01/19/2017, 03:41 PMTea, Earl Grey, Hot.
http://youtu.be/R2u11CSLcrs
http://youtu.be/ReOw_2f4lpY
http://youtu.be/X6oUz1v17Uo
and
http://youtu.be/bl5TUw7sUBs
Hell yeah guys, I want to change the name of this thread and move it off of fighting street, Star Trek is freaking rad I had no idea.
I've now made it through all of the OG episodes, and I have about 4 more episodes left of TNG.
I've watched the second and third movie, the first one isn't on any of my subscription streaming services so I haven't seen that one yet.
Where should I go after TNG... Voyager? Or DS9? Enterprise? Track down the rest of the movies that cover OG and TNG?
Quote from: Gredler on 03/03/2017, 01:47 PMHell yeah guys, I want to change the name of this thread and move it off of fighting street, Star Trek is freaking rad I had no idea.
I've now made it through all of the OG episodes, and I have about 4 more episodes left of TNG.
I've watched the second and third movie, the first one isn't on any of my subscription streaming services so I haven't seen that one yet.
Where should I go after TNG... Voyager? Or DS9? Enterprise? Track down the rest of the movies that cover OG and TNG?
Deep Space Nine for sure.
Aside from 2, the only other good movie is 4.
God I love this forum. Thanks for those links Dicer and Otaking.
Here's a whole playlist of TNG edits
youtu .be/S1XD2o1qX7E
Quote from: Gredler on 03/03/2017, 01:47 PMHell yeah guys, I want to change the name of this thread and move it off of fighting street, Star Trek is freaking rad I had no idea.
I've now made it through all of the OG episodes, and I have about 4 more episodes left of TNG.
I've watched the second and third movie, the first one isn't on any of my subscription streaming services so I haven't seen that one yet.
Where should I go after TNG... Voyager? Or DS9? Enterprise? Track down the rest of the movies that cover OG and TNG?
DS9 is "serious" Trek, Voyager get's a lot of flack but the Doc alone makes it worth it, it's def got some camp and WTF moments, but it's a solid watch.
Voyager is trash and so are you.
Now this thread can stay in Fighting Street.
I really liked the third movie - I watched 2 and 3 back to back and loved it. I thought Bones being pseudo spock was rad!
Thanks, the conflicting suggestions make me consider watching them in production-chonological order (og, tng, then the next one that was made)
From a production artist's perspective it's nice seeing how the makeup/costume, set, and effects artists tackled various design requests with available budgets and technology; the progression from the beginning of the show to the end in production quality is really nice to see. It will be fun to see what the next show after TNG looks like in terms of production quality; season 7 has some very nice work!
Quote from: Gredler on 03/03/2017, 04:12 PMI really liked the third movie - I watched 2 and 3 back to back and loved it. I thought Bones being pseudo spock was rad!
Thanks, the conflicting suggestions make me consider watching them in production-chonological order (og, tng, then the next one that was made)
From a production artist's perspective it's nice seeing how the makeup/costume, set, and effects artists tackled various design requests with available budgets and technology; the progression from the beginning of the show to the end in production quality is really nice to see. It will be fun to see what the next show after TNG looks like in terms of production quality; season 7 has some very nice work!
Here is my scorching hot take about the original 6 and TNG movies: they are all pretty much watchable and enjoyable enough.
http://youtu.be/iqpRdZsBX70
Quote from: Gredler on 03/03/2017, 04:12 PMI really liked the third movie - I watched 2 and 3 back to back and loved it. I thought Bones being pseudo spock was rad!
Thanks, the conflicting suggestions make me consider watching them in production-chonological order (og, tng, then the next one that was made)
From a production artist's perspective it's nice seeing how the makeup/costume, set, and effects artists tackled various design requests with available budgets and technology; the progression from the beginning of the show to the end in production quality is really nice to see. It will be fun to see what the next show after TNG looks like in terms of production quality; season 7 has some very nice work!
The TNG battle bridge is the bridge from Wrath of Khan.
And that bridge set was both the Enterprise bridge and the Reliant bridge, redressed. Shatner and Montelban were never on set together, their scenes were filmed months apart.
DS9 has the best space battles of the whole franchise. Also, from season 4 to end, it's the only actually serialized series: the Dominion War is a multi season arc and each episode follows from the last.
this is great. I understand so much now
http://youtu.be/G4ApQrbhQp8
Quote from: Gentlegamer on 03/03/2017, 06:21 PMQuote from: Gredler on 03/03/2017, 04:12 PMI really liked the third movie - I watched 2 and 3 back to back and loved it. I thought Bones being pseudo spock was rad!
Thanks, the conflicting suggestions make me consider watching them in production-chonological order (og, tng, then the next one that was made)
From a production artist's perspective it's nice seeing how the makeup/costume, set, and effects artists tackled various design requests with available budgets and technology; the progression from the beginning of the show to the end in production quality is really nice to see. It will be fun to see what the next show after TNG looks like in terms of production quality; season 7 has some very nice work!
The TNG battle bridge is the bridge from Wrath of Khan.
And that bridge set was both the Enterprise bridge and the Reliant bridge, redressed. Shatner and Montelban were never on set together, their scenes were filmed months apart.
DS9 has the best space battles of the whole franchise. Also, from season 4 to end, it's the only actually serialized series: the Dominion War is a multi season arc and each episode follows from the last.
The problem with DS9 is the first 3 seasons are all over the place in quality and consistency. The end of it is quite well done, I will easily agree to this. But I feel like Voyager knew what it was going in and kept with it and continued to grow the characters.
A while back I found the remastered Season 1 DVD set of TOS at Target for less than $10 in the clearance bin. Been watching a few episodes this weekend on my PVM, and I have to say that they look incredible. They added in a bunch of special effects, and they look awesome without looking out of place. I think this remastered version is also available for streaming on Amazon Prime. I never really gave TOS too much of a chance because I got into Star Trek when TNG came out, but so far I m really enjoying these episodes.
Quote from: guest on 03/05/2017, 01:36 PMQuote from: Gentlegamer on 03/03/2017, 06:21 PMQuote from: Gredler on 03/03/2017, 04:12 PMI really liked the third movie - I watched 2 and 3 back to back and loved it. I thought Bones being pseudo spock was rad!
Thanks, the conflicting suggestions make me consider watching them in production-chonological order (og, tng, then the next one that was made)
From a production artist's perspective it's nice seeing how the makeup/costume, set, and effects artists tackled various design requests with available budgets and technology; the progression from the beginning of the show to the end in production quality is really nice to see. It will be fun to see what the next show after TNG looks like in terms of production quality; season 7 has some very nice work!
The TNG battle bridge is the bridge from Wrath of Khan.
And that bridge set was both the Enterprise bridge and the Reliant bridge, redressed. Shatner and Montelban were never on set together, their scenes were filmed months apart.
DS9 has the best space battles of the whole franchise. Also, from season 4 to end, it's the only actually serialized series: the Dominion War is a multi season arc and each episode follows from the last.
The problem with DS9 is the first 3 seasons are all over the place in quality and consistency. The end of it is quite well done, I will easily agree to this. But I feel like Voyager knew what it was going in and kept with it and continued to grow the characters.
You're kidding, right? Voyager abandoned its premise in like half a season and then wrote Janeway as about five different characters, all of them unlikable.
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 03/05/2017, 09:22 PMA while back I found the remastered Season 1 DVD set of TOS at Target for less than $10 in the clearance bin. Been watching a few episodes this weekend on my PVM, and I have to say that they look incredible. They added in a bunch of special effects, and they look awesome without looking out of place. I think this remastered version is also available for streaming on Amazon Prime. I never really gave TOS too much of a chance because I got into Star Trek when TNG came out, but so far I m really enjoying these episodes.
I've only seen the remastered version, and my dumb ass was thinking how good the effects looked for the time, like these are the best miniatures ever created...... The remaster holds up well :)
Yeah, I liked the remastered original series a lot. Probably the only "special edition"-ing I've ever enjoyed.
I finished TNG today... danm that is a hell of a last episode, great stuff. I am excited to move on to DS9.
I will need to figure out how to affordably watch the movies, 2 and 3 were so good, it makes me want to watch the rest so bad!
Quote from: Gredler on 03/06/2017, 08:05 PMI finished TNG today... danm that is a hell of a last episode, great stuff. I am excited to move on to DS9.
I will need to figure out how to affordably watch the movies, 2 and 3 were so good, it makes me want to watch the rest so bad!
I literally did the same thing, though I am several eps in on DS9 now.
Quote from: Dicer on 03/06/2017, 08:20 PMQuote from: Gredler on 03/06/2017, 08:05 PMI finished TNG today... danm that is a hell of a last episode, great stuff. I am excited to move on to DS9.
I literally did the same thing, though I am several eps in on DS9 now.
DS9 has some great episodes. Pretty much any of the ones with Garak in it, for a start.
When you've finished DS9, you can watch some real story-telling from its competition at the time ...
Is This the Smoking Gun Proving
Deep Space Nine Ripped Off
Babylon 5? (http://www.tor.com/2013/02/26/is-this-the-smoking-gun-proving-deep-space-nine-ripped-off-babylon-5/)
Quote from: elmer on 03/06/2017, 09:00 PMWhen you've finished DS9, you can watch some real story-telling from its competition at the time ...
Thanks! I think all of this sci-fi education I am getting is prepping me for B5 - looking forward to that too! :)
I fucking love the doors on DS9, just saying...
The acting and characters seem so bad immediately after watching TNG, but I do like the setting.
Is it inherently blurry and dark or just my stream?
Quote from: Gredler on 03/07/2017, 02:25 PMThe acting and characters seem so bad immediately after watching TNG, but I do like the setting.
I think that you're forgetting just how awkward some of the early TNG episodes were until the actors and writers became comfortable with their characters (Picard was the exception, because Patrick Stewart was a very experienced and good actor).
But ... the DS9 folks take some getting used to.
That's also kinda the point ... it's the Federation's regular grunts at the ass-end of things, stuck in an undesirable 2nd-rate posting that none of the high-flyers would want.
QuoteIs it inherently blurry and dark or just my stream?
Deliberate, IMHO (at least the "dark" part).
Again, working-life in space (i.e. Alien) on an space station built by the Cardassians and not the shiny-lights-and-plastic of the latest-generation front-line Federation starship.
Instead of the encounter-of-the-week format, they tried for a sci-fi soap-opera format.
Then they made it a lot more high-adventure later on.
For DS9, you can skip the whole first season after the pilot except for the episode "Duet."
If you're watching the whole thing, I wonder if you'll comment on the first season episode that made me drop the series when it was first run, I'll let you guess which one. I disregarded DS9 for years and had to catch up later.
Quote from: Gredler on 03/03/2017, 01:47 PMI've watched the second and third movie, the first one isn't on any of my subscription streaming services so I haven't seen that one yet.
I know a lot of folks will criticize the first Star Trek film (for its slow pacing and "lack of action"), but, in a serious way, it is one of the best films.
All I can say is this: give the first movie a chance. You have to designate an evening to it and eliminate all distractions. It should be nighttime, lights off and pure "cinema time" at your home.
The reason I say this is because the pacing is deliberately slow, brooding and "fantastical" (stoopid word)...I love how the movie slowly builds and builds and builds. The atmosphere that develops is truly superb, and IMHO the *experience* of the film is truly awe-inspiring...one of the few films that successfully creates the awe and emotions of "peeking into the unknown"....
This film, I believe, is really about the *experience*...even if you know the plot points already, it doesn't matter, because you are supposed to be mesmerized by the sheer vastness of space and significance/insignificance of humanity.
These are tropes in sci-fi, but, I would argue, the *execution* of this film transcends its seemingly simple plot.
It is a *grand* movie that promises (and delivers) an epic.
If you want an action film, however, please look elsewhere.
This is more akin to Kubrick's 2001....
In fact, I think I have seen a correlation between folks who enjoy 2001 and Star Trek I...
BOTTOM LINE: I understand why folks don't like this first film, but it is a masterpiece, period. In fact, it is the most elegant, lyrical and magical film in the franchise. It just might not be your cup of tea. :)
@esteban
I think I need to just bite the bullet and purchase the movies. I've seen some box sets that are fairly affordable that would get me everything - I've been trying to stream everything for convenience and cost, but only a few of the movies are currently available on Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon (my current subscriptions.)
I have frew preconceptions about the movies aside from 5 that I hear was really poor, so my expectations are only set based on the quality of 2 and 3 which I hear are the pinnacle movies.
Maybe I'll watch 5 next (it's on amazon streaming) to get the opposite quality side of the bread for this movie sandwich :P
@elmer
I got a few more episodes in, and I can already see the vibe you're talking about. It's different, which is nice, and focuses more on a class/group of people in the same universe that is an interesting change of pace.
I will watch it through I think, I am curious where the show ends up going and my desire to flesh out my "trekie" understanding is incentive enough to bare through the awkward beginnings of this new cast and crew.
Quote from: elmer on 03/06/2017, 09:00 PMQuote from: Dicer on 03/06/2017, 08:20 PMQuote from: Gredler on 03/06/2017, 08:05 PMI finished TNG today... danm that is a hell of a last episode, great stuff. I am excited to move on to DS9.
I literally did the same thing, though I am several eps in on DS9 now.
DS9 has some great episodes. Pretty much any of the ones with Garak in it, for a start.
When you've finished DS9, you can watch some real story-telling from its competition at the time ...
Is This the Smoking Gun Proving Deep Space Nine Ripped Off Babylon 5? (http://www.tor.com/2013/02/26/is-this-the-smoking-gun-proving-deep-space-nine-ripped-off-babylon-5/)
B5 is such an interesting series. It's pretty amazing that the producer was able to keep almost total control of the direction of it the entire run of 5 seasons.
Quote from: guest on 03/08/2017, 02:33 PMB5 is such an interesting series. It's pretty amazing that the producer was able to keep almost total control of the direction of it the entire run of 5 seasons.
You just don't get much better writing and acting than B5 at-its-best ...
Babylon 5: Sebastian / Jack (the Ripper) (https://youtu.be/IiiLehA-U5g)
I've started watching DS9 since they're showing it every night on TV here locally. Gotta say, it ain't bad.
Yeah, growing on me quick. DS9 is not so shabby!
Deep Space Nine is basically Dark Trek in the best way possible.
Quote from: Gentlegamer on 03/13/2017, 04:16 PMDeep Space Nine is basically Dark Trek in the best way possible.
Which episode of season 1 rustled your jimmies?
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 03/13/2017, 04:37 PMQuote from: Gentlegamer on 03/13/2017, 04:16 PMDeep Space Nine is basically Dark Trek in the best way possible.
Which episode of season 1 rustled your jimmies?
Move Along Home - I was like, well, this is terrible, back to TNG. May be the worst episode of the whole series.
So I completely disregarded DS9 while I had a friend who was watching it and telling me how awesome it was, I thought he was crazy.
I decided to check it out, saw the later season episode where Worf and others are prisoners during Dominion War. Ok, this is cool, I can deal with this. Then the teaser for the next episode was "Kira's lost love returns!" and I was like nah. Years later when I watched the whole series that episode was fine because Kira is one of the best characters, but for someone just dropping in wanting more Dominion War, it was terrible.
That was the one I was going to ask. Where the dungeons and dragons fan race of aliens try to convince everyone is in danger inside their game... it's not as terrible as you say, but I can see that being pretty shitty when waiting a week and that being the episode that you're given.
:-
Quote from: Gredler on 01/13/2017, 08:57 PMI am catching up on Star Trek, I've never watched any of it so for the past few months I've filled white noise with Star Trek Next Generation - I've gotten to where I really like it. Episode 22 of season three made me laugh when I realized it was a about collectarding to a certain extent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Most_Toys
I can't post a link to it, but I was wondering if anyone else has watched this and imagined collectors of videogames in the future :P
Damn. I've watched every episode of every season of every Trek!
Now I'm watching Babylon 5 after reading this thread.
Quote from: Groover on 04/11/2017, 01:36 AMNow I'm watching Babylon 5 after reading this thread.
I hope that you started with the first movie "The Gathering" ... it was shown before the series starts, and sets up some important stuff.
The first few episodes (maybe 5 or 6) are pretty weak (and sometimes downright embarrassing) but you really need to suffer through them (and the actors getting comfortable with their roles), because the way that JMS wrote the series (and he wrote almost-all of the episodes), there's at least one or two scenes in every episode that show things that will haunt the characters in later years.
It's a slow-reveal kinda show, with a pre-planned 5-year story arc. Pretty-much unique in TV-history.
IIRC, the actors were even signed to 5-year contracts instead of the usual Hollywood 7-year contracts.
Well I started watching and after about 3 episodes I went back and watched The Gathering. I'm about halfway through season 2 and I have been enjoying it. I was surpised with the recast of the captian. I would love to know the story behind that one. I know there are other movies and I have tried tracking down a watch order list.
Quote from: Groover on 04/18/2017, 11:20 AMI'm about halfway through season 2 and I have been enjoying it.
I'm glad that you're enjoying it, it's my favorite show, probably because of its incredible ambition and complex writing.
QuoteI was surprised with the recast of the captain. I would love to know the story behind that one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_O%27Hare
QuoteI know there are other movies and I have tried tracking down a watch order list.
IMHO, "In the Beginning" is the best of the movies, but I'd recommend watching things in production order (that movie was made between the 4th and 5th seasons of the show).
You'll just enjoy it more if you know the characters and their story-arcs.
So far I'm now halfway through the 3rd season. I'm really hooked.
Quote from: Groover on 04/21/2017, 09:15 PMSo far I'm now halfway through the 3rd season. I'm really hooked.
A full 22-episode season in 3 days ... yep, you're hooked! :wink:
Quote from: elmer on 04/23/2017, 10:09 PMQuote from: Groover on 04/21/2017, 09:15 PMSo far I'm now halfway through the 3rd season. I'm really hooked.
A full 22-episode season in 3 days ... yep, you're hooked! :wink:
Yes, I'm hooked. Now I'm in the middle of season 4 and watched Thirdspace movie. I'm not really seeing the season talk about it much. Also am I going to be happy with the end of all this or left upset with a big cliffhanger? Also I really enjoy being pleasantly surprised but the guest stars on this show.
Quote from: Groover on 04/26/2017, 09:36 PMYes, I'm hooked. Now I'm in the middle of season 4 and watched Thirdspace movie. I'm not really seeing the season talk about it much. Also am I going to be happy with the end of all this or left upset with a big cliffhanger? Also I really enjoy being pleasantly surprised but the guest stars on this show.
I think that you'll be happy ... just keep on going.
Thirdspace is pretty bad, and has no relevance to anything, and Soul Hunter is the same.
"In the Beginning" is the thing to watch between the 4th-and-5th seasons, and gives you a slightly different perspective on the things that you've seen at that point.
Then "Call to Arms" comes somewhere in the 5th-season, and lays the ground for the short-lived and not-great Crusade series.
But B5 ... nope, don't worry, that story has a conclusion.
Great news.
It is sad to find out Jerry Doyle died last year.
Quote from: Groover on 04/27/2017, 12:05 AMIt is sad to find out Jerry Doyle died last year.
Yep, so many of the main cast have passed beyond.
I remember being in awe when the show first started. Hard to believe that's nearly 25-years ago now.
I am finishing up DS9 right now. Mixed feelings about DS9, and looking forward for moving onto more trekking. Voyager next, starting later tonight
Quote from: Gredler on 04/27/2017, 02:19 AMI am finishing up DS9 right now. Mixed feelings about DS9, and looking forward for moving onto more trekking. Voyager next, starting later tonight
Ds9 is much better than voyager. There is so much filler in voyager it's unreal. So many episodes can be skipped without consequence.
Have recently started watching TOS. amazing. Shatner is a much better actor in it than I ever imagined.
Quote from: wildfruit on 04/27/2017, 04:20 AMQuote from: Gredler on 04/27/2017, 02:19 AMI am finishing up DS9 right now. Mixed feelings about DS9, and looking forward for moving onto more trekking. Voyager next, starting later tonight
Ds9 is much better than voyager. There is so much filler in voyager it's unreal. So many episodes can be skipped without consequence.
Have recently started watching TOS. amazing. Shatner is a much better actor in it than I ever imagined.
A few years ago I rewatched the original series with my daughter (her first time watching, since she was in 4th-5th grade at the time).
The original series holds up well. I was so happy, since I hadn't seen most episodes since I was a kid myself.
:)
Yup, despite the caricature attributed to Shatner's acting as Kirk, it's pretty darn good, and surprising if you haven't seen the real thing.
I still have loads of Star Trek CCG cards from Decipher if anyone is interested (or willing to be labeled as collectard)
Excellent use of the thread.
You are the winnierz
I'm in Season 5 of Babylon 5. Really enjoying this show. Sad to be on season 5 knowing there is no 6 but there is still a lot to watch. I will likely rewatch season 1 after I finish it all.
I grew up watching TNG and watched the first season or two of DS9 as it aired. Growing up,TNG was definitely my favorite show that wasn't a cartoon. I also watched Enterprise and liked it at first, until they went on a single story tangent that I didn't find interesting. Also, I hate Scott Bakula, always have always will. Reading this thread makes me want to go back and re-watch them all.
Quote from: Winniez on 04/28/2017, 06:08 PMI still have loads of Star Trek CCG cards from Decipher if anyone is interested (or willing to be labeled as collectard)
Oh man, me too. Quite a few of those...
I can't believe I never gave this the time of day before. I'm nearly through the first season. TOS is duly promoted to my second favourite series.
Quote from: wildfruit on 05/02/2017, 04:19 AMI can't believe I never gave this the time of day before. I'm nearly through the first season. TOS is duly promoted to my second favourite series.
Pure Energy.
Voyager is rrrrouggh to start; might be like elmer mentioned about new cast getting a feel for one another, but man it's difficult to listen to / watch. The whole lost in space facade is kinda cool, and I like the vulcan, but I've not had the urge to turn it on like I did TOS TNG and even towards the end DS9. I'll keep trucking through, I've gone too far to stop now.
For BSG is it a good idea to go to the original series first, or skip it? I did TOS before TNG and I'm glad I did - so many references and characters popped up it was worth it - and TOS episode on DS9 was pretty great too.
IMHO both Voyager and Enterprise are pretty bad, and not worth wasting the time to watch. There's so much better TV out there.
Then-again, I didn't overly love the direction that DS9 turned in when it suddenly shifted into this major-intergalactic war, but yet these low-level characters are suddenly crucial and don't get bumped out of the way by the Federation's A-Team.
Still ... DS9 actually had some really good episodes and some good actors.
I can't even begin to say that about Voyager or Enterprise. Such lazy writing!
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As for BSG ... I'd highly recommend watching the original 1978 pilot movie (sometimes shown as the first 2 or 3 episodes of the series).
That'll give you the background to the original show and characters, and you'll see enough to understand all the loving-tributes that are paid to the original in the reboot show (it's not a continuation like TOS/TNG, it's a total reboot & retelling of the original story).
But for gawd's sake ... stop after the pilot. The original show is *terrible*!
The only other part of the original show that really reappears in the reboot is the return of Cmdr Cain. That's a 2-parter in the original that's almost-worth-watching at some point, just to see how much better it was done in the reboot.
BTW ... from my POV, the first couple of seasons of the reboot are some of the best TV ever made, but it goes seriously off-the-rails towards the end when it becomes obvious that the writers didn't really know where they were going to go with the story when they started it.
Wow maybe I will bail and jump ship from Star Trek now, because from what I've heard/seen of Voyager it's mind numbing. I've not been really sitting down and watching these, it's just been white noise wile I do laundry, other chores, or at work during a mundane task; but voyager doesn't add entertainment it saps it.
Knowing BSG is a retelling of the same/similar story is nice. I will follow your instructions, and jump ship to BSG soon I imagine. I wont give up on Trek yet, I think I can grind through a bit more
The only episode of Voyager that must be watched is Tuvix.
It is funny to see some old technology in Babylon 5. Like a Newspaper and Books. Also some old CRT monitors as set dressing.
I'll stand up for Enterprise. I watched every episode and IMO there were more than a few good ones. Even if you hate it, it's an origin series and it fleshes out a lot of stuff that had only been barely mentioned in the previously.
Voyager though...jeez. I love the ship, but basically every single other thing about it is DUMB on eleven. The characters are dumb, their makeup is dumb, their stupid fucking voices are dumb, their costumes are dumb, the dialogue is all dumb, it's fucking DUMB. There is basically nothing to like. I couldn't stand watching it. Irritating as fuck and nothing cool at all. It's like a high school theater company was hired to make Star Trek.
However there are some things written about it in Trekonomics that make it sound pretty cool, mainly involving the doctor. The same book says interesting things about Feringi though so I'm of the opinion that the author of Trekonics has more talent than the people who worked on DS9 and Voyager because I can't seem to enjoy anything about them unless he explains it to me. :)
Ferengi are cool, and so far the doctor is certainly the saving grace of voyager
Ferengi are absolutely not cool. They are a fucking terrible invention and one of the worst things in the history of Star Trek. Like some crazy secret marginalia from Middle Ages Catholic Church designed to keep mothers from letting their children be eaten by Jews...except with two great big round boners on each side of their head. I have a seriously difficult time watching anything with these ridiculous living plot devices in them.
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 05/03/2017, 09:54 PMFerengi are absolutely not cool. They are a fucking terrible invention and one of the worst things in the history of Star Trek. Like some crazy secret marginalia from Middle Ages Catholic Church designed to keep mothers from letting their children be eaten by Jews...except with two great big round boners on each side of their head. I have a seriously difficult time watching anything with these ridiculous living plot devices in them.
Did your rabbi warn you not to watch DS9?
I agree that ferengi should not have become a constant character - but I like them in TNG, and think they're a cool idea for a race of aliens.
The vulcan in Voyager makes me want to keep watching. I like the vulcans. Tuvok!!
Vulcans are the biz. TNG is my jam forever but Spock is the coolest ST dude of all for all time. Both the character and his actor, a real mensch, Newtype, humanist, and cosmo-future-socialist. A cool as they come.
There has to be something said about Voyager really getting out into space and exploring, that's pretty cool compared to the localized focus of DS9. They're constantly going to random places trying to get home on this show.
Quote from: technozombie on 05/01/2017, 08:36 AMI grew up watching TNG and watched the first season or two of DS9 as it aired. Growing up,TNG was definitely my favorite show that wasn't a cartoon. I also watched Enterprise and liked it at first, until they went on a single story tangent that I didn't find interesting. Also, I hate Scott Bakula, always have always will. Reading this thread makes me want to go back and re-watch them all.
I grew up watching TNG too, it was like one of the few things my father and I would bond over watching so I still enjoy it. When the series ended I felt like this huge part of my life was ending as well.
Well I wrapped up Babylon 5 and the movies. I started watching the Crusades season but I"m having a hard time pushing through. I'm not sure how quickly I will get through. Also there seems to be another movie after that season I hope it wraps it up and not start something that will not be finished.
Quote from: Groover on 05/07/2017, 03:34 PMI started watching the Crusades season but I"m having a hard time pushing through.
Yep, it's not great, is it! Not actually horrible ... but just a bit "bleh". :roll:
And usually show out-of-story-order, and in the butchered broadcast-order, which really doesn't help.
I liked Galen, but the whole thing didn't ever seem to quite gel together.
And "nope", it doesn't have an ending as such, it got cancelled part way through the 1st season.
Quote from: Groover on 05/07/2017, 03:34 PMAlso there seems to be another movie after that season I hope it wraps it up and not start something that will not be finished.
Are you thinking of the "Legend of the Rangers" movie, that was really a (failed) attempt to spin-off another series?
Coming out in the same year as Joss Whedon's absolutely-excellent "Firefly", it almost seemed like a cut-rate knockoff.
Nope, it's got nothing to do with anything, and was (IMHO) worse than Crusade.
The only other B5 thing worth watching is the Lost Tales movie/anthology.
It's a very low-budget direct-to-DVD movie, but was actually written really well (IMHO) and truly feels like something out of the original show, just without the budget.
If you're not enjoying Crusade, you might as well bail out, it doesn't get any better.
Just try to find the Lost Tales, and then watch Firefly (followed by the Serenity movie) if you haven't already seen them! :wink:
BTW ... so now that you finished the main B5 series, what did you think of it?
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OK, yep ... I decided to watch Lost Tales again, and still loved it!
Wow, I didn't even know that Crusade show existed. The more you know.
This reminds me I really should watch all of Babylon 5 some time.
Quote from: elmer on 05/07/2017, 04:46 PMJust try to find the Lost Tales, and then watch Firefly (followed by the Serenity movie) if you haven't already seen them! :wink:
BTW ... so now that you finished the main B5 series, what did you think of it?
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OK, yep ... I decided to watch Lost Tales again, and still loved it!
I really enjoyed Babylon 5. Each season was a new turn in the story and they really provide a nice close and rewards the viewer with all the callbacks.
I have seen Firefly a few times and Serenity. I really enjoyed that one.
I guess I will watch more crusades to see if they wrap up the issue created in the last movie. then watch that last movie.
Things I hate about voyager:
Dumb ass alien chef with is stupid chef hat.
Quote from: Gredler on 05/09/2017, 06:22 PMDumb ass alien chef with is stupid chef hat.
If your list is that short, then you must have a very strong constitution! :wink:
Quote from: elmer on 05/09/2017, 09:05 PMIf your list is that short, then you must have a very strong constitution! :wink:
Or as Arkhan would say, "retarded".
I've had a very hard time watching it. The voices of the characters (aside from Tuvok and the Doctor) are grating, so having it on in the background at work is less enjoyable than prior shows. I am not sure I'll get through it, I really want to try - there's 7 friggin seasons it has to be that long running for a reason - but man it's difficult. I grew to enjoy DS9, and had a similar but much less difficult time getting through it. I don't want to have that "what if" feeling about voyager - but BSG is more and more siren songing me towards it.
Quote from: Gredler on 05/09/2017, 09:10 PMOr as Arkhan would say, "retarded".
:-"
QuoteI am not sure I'll get through it, I really want to try - there's 7 friggin seasons it has to be that long running for a reason - but man it's difficult.
Jeri Ryan's breasts in a tight outfit. :roll:
That's pretty-much the only thing that kept it alive for so long ... male fantasies.
A trick so blatant, and yet so successful, that they 100% duplicated it in Enterprise with Jolene Blalock's breasts.
Honestly, if you're still suffering through Voyager, you should give Enterprise a try.
It's much, much better than Voyager, and some of the characters are semi-interesting, and then you can get annoyed by the doctor instead ("yes", they pretty-much just rotated the same characters into different jobs).
But it has almost-as-bad story writing, and goes for the whole time-travelling-baddies to provide its main story arc for multiple seasons ... and I find that incredibly lazy.
Blalock Calls 'Enterprise' Finale Appalling (http://www.trektoday.com/news/070305_02.shtml)
As she says ... "We started out with 13 million viewers on the pilot, and we somehow managed to drive 11 million of them away."
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01GWB1GM6/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1494416264&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=star+trek+bridge+crew&dpPl=1&dpID=51RpLwEf7dL&ref=plSrch
Anyone plan on picking this up? I have it pre-ordered since I am a sucker for all things VR. My fingers are crossed it isn't shit and that it has decent replay value.
With Star Trek Voyager Jerri Ryan really held my attention to the show.
Quote from: TheClash603 on 05/10/2017, 07:39 AMhttps://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01GWB1GM6/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1494416264&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=star+trek+bridge+crew&dpPl=1&dpID=51RpLwEf7dL&ref=plSrch
Anyone plan on picking this up? I have it pre-ordered since I am a sucker for all things VR. My fingers are crossed it isn't shit and that it has decent replay value.
I've still yet to use anything VR, but that has looked very intriguing and makes me wish I had setup capable of playing it. That and RE7, the only two pieces of software that encourage me to get a VR setup.
Jerri Ryan is not on Voyager where I am at in this season - but it encourages me to stick with it knowing something makes the show better. At this point I am almost curious WTF how this show existed and knowing she is the reason makes me even more ponderous.
I started Enterprise, watched a few episodes when I was debating between it, voyager, and DS9. I liked the opening few episodes better than any of those three, so I saved it for last. I thought I'd go with the more palatable of the two inferior (imo from the first few episodes) first, sandwiching the worst of the three between them.
My fiance keeps saying I don't actually watch this show, and wonders why I have it on. I tell her it makes walking around the house doing chores, plodding through menial tasks, a bit more entertaining. The show's are superficial enough that I can skip large chunks and still follow, or just don't care. This was not the case with TNG - I ended up restarting/rewinding the episodes often, like reading without comprehension and re-reading sentences/paragraphs.
I'm trying to figure out what next after Babylon 5. I haven't seen Stargate tv show or Farscape or Enterprise. After that great recommendation of Babylon5 what next. I have seen all the other Star Trek and BattleStar and Buck Rodgers as well as Space 1999 and V.
Quote from: Groover on 05/18/2017, 01:34 PMI'm trying to figure out what next after Babylon 5. I haven't seen Stargate tv show or Farscape or Enterprise. After that great recommendation of Babylon5 what next. I have seen all the other Star Trek and BattleStar and Buck Rodgers as well as Space 1999 and V.
Now it's time for Quantum Leap.
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Quote from: Groover on 05/18/2017, 01:34 PMI'm trying to figure out what next after Babylon 5. I haven't seen Stargate tv show or Farscape or Enterprise. After that great recommendation of Babylon5 what next. I have seen all the other Star Trek and BattleStar and Buck Rodgers as well as Space 1999 and V.
Watch both of these. I'd watch Stargate before Farscape but that's just like, my opinion maaaan.
Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis are pretty good. SG:Universe was kind of a flop but they did finally explain why the Stargate ring in the original movie poster had 9 chevrons.
7 Chevrons are like the local phone number you can use, it's limited to within the galaxy.
8th Chevron is like the area code for different galaxy. O'Neil helped figure this when he had a brain overload and met with Asgard race.
And finally in Universe, 9 chevron code is like a mobile number, it goes to a specific ring and not to a star system so it was possible to go from ship to ship. and planet to ship. However the range is limited without extra power that nearly wiped out the whole team in the pilot episode.
SG-1 is great, Atlantis is okay, and Universe is hard to watch. There's really no main heroes (like Jack/Daniel/Samantha/Teal'c), they waste far too much story time figuring out the ship (they've spent years working with Ancient tech in SG-1 and Atlantis, yet are almost totally lost on Destiny?), and there's entirely too much wishy-washy trust bullshit. If you have reason to distrust someone, that's fine. Kill or imprison them and move; don't flip flop back and forth between wanting to kill them and them being your best bud.
Quote from: guest on 05/19/2017, 09:44 AMSG-1 is great, Atlantis is okay, and Universe is hard to watch. There's really no main heroes (like Jack/Daniel/Samantha/Teal'c), they waste far too much story time figuring out the ship (they've spent years working with Ancient tech in SG-1 and Atlantis, yet are almost totally lost on Destiny?), and there's entirely too much wishy-washy trust bullshit. If you have reason to distrust someone, that's fine. Kill or imprison them and move; don't flip flop back and forth between wanting to kill them and them being your best bud.
Nailed it.
I was kinda hoping for more Atlantis, but I wasn't like super sad when they ended it.
Quote from: Gypsy on 05/19/2017, 09:29 PMQuote from: guest on 05/19/2017, 09:44 AMSG-1 is great, Atlantis is okay, and Universe is hard to watch.
Nailed it.
I was kinda hoping for more Atlantis, but I wasn't like super sad when they ended it.
SG1 was excellent ... they lasted through what, 9 seasons, and I can't think of a bad one, even the Farscape Reunion season.
Atlantis had a good premise, and some style, but it never quite seemed to gel together. I kept on hoping that most of the lead characters would get killed.
Universe was just a mess. Interesting basic idea ... terrible execution.
I'm a bit surprised that there's not more love for Farscape.
It took a while for me to get passed the Jim Henson puppets, and the lighting ... and a few episodes for the characters (and writers) to get used to each other ... but after that, I thought that it was a magical Soap Opera.
A bit like the old 1980s Flash Gordon movie. I hated that movie when I first saw it ... and now I love it.
I was expecting Star Trek serious ... and it wasn't, it was made to be fun. Just like Farscape.
The cast and their interactions absolutely makes Farscape, and makes you want to suspend-disbelief because you're having fun. What other show could have done a Loony Tunes tribute episode, and have it make perfect sense in the storyline?
10 seasons of SG1 actually. I didn't like the last seasons as much, but it's splitting hairs and I still enjoyed them a lot.
Farscape is quite good too. I would certainly recommend it over say, Atlantis. It's actually one I should pick up the DVDs for. I already have SG1, Atlantis, DS9, Galactica etc...
Quote from: Gypsy on 05/20/2017, 06:40 PM10 seasons of SG1 actually. I didn't like the last seasons as much, but it's splitting hairs and I still enjoyed them a lot.
Good point, there were 2 SG1 "Farscape Reunion" seasons, weren't there ... I keep on blending them into one!
Yeah, the final seasons were still good ... better than Atlantis, but not as good as the earlier ones.
If anyone wants a short break from aliens-n-spaceship scifi, then I'd highly recommend "The Lost Room" miniseries. Only 6 episodes and it's all done and wrapped-up.
Yep two of those seasons, and then a movie to wrap up the Ori plotline.
I remember The Lost Room being alright, but I haven't watched it since when it originally aired or close to it. It's definitely a bit out there.
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Perfecto Greds.
So, I recently got most of the TNG seasons on DVD. Fun times ahead.
Enjoy, I say avoid voyager. Avoyager..
I am season 2 episode 8 in, so far none of the episodes are noteable or I would suggest anyone to watch. Most difficult to watch out of all of this stuff, still.
Oh yeah, I'll definitely enjoy it. Going to watch the Moriarty episodes first, then probably just in order from the beginning.
Well I couldn't watch Enterprise. I'm not too excited about the next Star Trek series either. I have now moved onto Wonder Woman. With all the talk about the movie I felt it was a good time to watch the tv show. I only saw a few growing up in reruns. On season 3. Thinking Batman with Adam West next. I loved that show growing up and have a few tapes of back to back episodes.
I have to check out Stargate. Seen the movie.
I said it before but yeah, watch Stargate, it's pretty good.
I got around to watching Elementary, Dear Data episode again last night. Good stuff. I did find out the follow up episode is in season 6 though, which is the one I don't have, lol. I'll have to remedy that.
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Quote from: Groover on 06/11/2017, 02:51 PMWell I couldn't watch Enterprise. I'm not too excited about the next Star Trek series either. I have now moved onto Wonder Woman. With all the talk about the movie I felt it was a good time to watch the tv show. I only saw a few growing up in reruns. On season 3. Thinking Batman with Adam West next. I loved that show growing up and have a few tapes of back to back episodes.
I have to check out Stargate. Seen the movie.
Um...I have some news for you buddy. While Enterprise isn't the greatest ST series....fucking
Wonder Woman is an extremely shitty show for 8 years olds. 1970s 8 year olds at that. Slightly better than Big Foot and Wildboy but not as good as Knight Rider.
Also, don't go watch Batman just because the guy died. Fuck, man. You've still got all those Prince and Bowie records, mid period James Bond, and Charlie Murphy stand up to plow through. Famous people are going to be croaking at an ever increasing rate in the coming years so watching all the stuff people make after they die is just going to become impossible. Consider the work of the still living, and perhaps some support as well.
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 06/11/2017, 11:56 PMQuote from: Groover on 06/11/2017, 02:51 PMWell I couldn't watch Enterprise. I'm not too excited about the next Star Trek series either. I have now moved onto Wonder Woman. With all the talk about the movie I felt it was a good time to watch the tv show. I only saw a few growing up in reruns. On season 3. Thinking Batman with Adam West next. I loved that show growing up and have a few tapes of back to back episodes.
I have to check out Stargate. Seen the movie.
Um...I have some news for you buddy. While Enterprise isn't the greatest ST series....fucking Wonder Woman is an extremely shitty show for 8 years olds. 1970s 8 year olds at that. Slightly better than Big Foot and Wildboy but not as good as Knight Rider.
Also, don't go watch Batman just because the guy died. Fuck, man. You've still got all those Prince and Bowie records, mid period James Bond, and Charlie Murphy stand up to plow through. Famous people are going to be croaking at an ever increasing rate in the coming years so watching all the stuff people make after they die is just going to become impossible. Consider the work of the still living, and perhaps some support as well.
It depends who dies for me to share this sentiment.
For example, I am a big Ramones and Clash fan. When those guys died, I was on a big loop of remembrance... though I suppose it was a fairly repetitive loop even prior to their deaths.
When Chris Cornel died, I gave him one car ride of listening to some old songs, cause I liked him but didn't listen to him a ton.
If Christina Aguilera died tomorrow, I wouldn't listen to anything.
Mourning is weighted.
When Nate Dogg died we had a get together at my pad and played the gfunk classics, that was the saddest celebrity death for me and the only time I reflected on the artists works in remembrance, but that was and still is a very common music to listen for me but that might was different and so sad.
The voyager train slogs on, and I am still curious how this show lasted 7 seasons I am am on the last episode of season 2 and the Tuvix episode was the most interesting of all of them, and still was weird and not great. Patience is running thin but it puts me to sleep at night and Makes good white noise for chores and menial tasks lol
Just remember this: no episode of Enterprise is worse than the theme song. If you survived that, you'll survive the rest.
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 06/12/2017, 05:46 PMJust remember this: no episode of Enterprise is worse than the theme song. If you survived that, you'll survive the rest.
oh jeez, that theme song is the worrrrst
Quote from: Gredler on 06/12/2017, 05:56 PMQuote from: SignOfZeta on 06/12/2017, 05:46 PMJust remember this: no episode of Enterprise is worse than the theme song. If you survived that, you'll survive the rest.
oh jeez, that theme song is the worrrrst
I must listen to this song. How could it be *that* bad?
It sounds like the opening of a Christian sitcom.
Quote from: esteban on 06/12/2017, 06:41 PMI must listen to this song. How could it be *that* bad?
Please save yourself ... for the kids sake! Just ignore it.
Quote from: elmer on 06/12/2017, 07:29 PMQuote from: esteban on 06/12/2017, 06:41 PMI must listen to this song. How could it be *that* bad?
Please save yourself ... for the kids sake! Just ignore it.
Now I must fulfill the quest....
(To be continued)
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 06/12/2017, 07:04 PMIt sounds like the opening of a Christian sitcom.
Jesus Christ, I thought you were joking.
Totally fucking inexcusable.
This shit should never have been used for a pilot, let alone for multiple seasons of any show.
Even
7th Heaven* had a better theme song.
* No, I don't remember the song, but you know I'm going to listen to it now.
UPDATE: Although the 7th Heaven theme song is, indeed, abominable, it is catchier and slightly less vomit-inducing than the Enterprise Pablum.
I have not watched any of the Star Trek spinoffs beyond Deep Space Nine. Please warn me now if there are any opening themes with sung lyrics. Thank you.
That looks like the poster that came with Cheerios when the show first started (win the chance to be in an episode!) but it has no color.
What is that? Did you just Google "crappy pic of Enterprise D"?
EDIT: Fuck, some Trekker I am. The Cheerios poster looks nothing like this. I should know because the original hangs in Picard's quarters. FUCK. I'm SO DUMB!
StarTrekPoster.webp
Quote from: esteban on 06/13/2017, 10:25 PMQuote from: SignOfZeta on 06/12/2017, 07:04 PMIt sounds like the opening of a Christian sitcom.
Jesus Christ, I thought you were joking.
Totally fucking inexcusable.
This shit should never have been used for a pilot, let alone for multiple seasons of any show.
Even 7th Heaven* had a better theme song.
* No, I don't remember the song, but you know I'm going to listen to it now.
UPDATE: Although the 7th Heaven theme song is, indeed, abominable, it is catchier and slightly less vomit-inducing than the Enterprise Pablum.
I have not watched any of the Star Trek spinoffs beyond Deep Space Nine. Please warn me now if there are any opening themes with sung lyrics. Thank you.
My gf recently watched the entire series of 7th Heaven for some god forsaken reason.
The sole reason I was able to make it through this dark period of our relationship was by making countless pedophile jokes and singing my own improved lyrics to that song as each new episode played.
My life = worse than your lives.
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 06/14/2017, 01:03 AMThat looks like the poster that came with Cheerios when the show first started (win the chance to be in an episode!) but it has no color.
What is that? Did you just Google "crappy pic of Enterprise D"?
I'd guess he did it himself.
If you zoom in, you can find evo.
Quote from: TheClash603 on 06/14/2017, 08:14 AMQuote from: esteban on 06/13/2017, 10:25 PMQuote from: SignOfZeta on 06/12/2017, 07:04 PMIt sounds like the opening of a Christian sitcom.
Jesus Christ, I thought you were joking.
Totally fucking inexcusable.
This shit should never have been used for a pilot, let alone for multiple seasons of any show.
Even 7th Heaven* had a better theme song.
* No, I don't remember the song, but you know I'm going to listen to it now.
UPDATE: Although the 7th Heaven theme song is, indeed, abominable, it is catchier and slightly less vomit-inducing than the Enterprise Pablum.
I have not watched any of the Star Trek spinoffs beyond Deep Space Nine. Please warn me now if there are any opening themes with sung lyrics. Thank you.
My gf recently watched the entire series of 7th Heaven for some god forsaken reason.
The sole reason I was able to make it through this dark period of our relationship was by making countless pedophile jokes and singing my own improved lyrics to that song as each new episode played.
My life = worse than your lives.
Jessica Biel.
:)
(No, I never watched an episode of this godforsaken show. But..Jessica Biel).
I have just gone back to rewatching Star Trek Next Generation on Netflix.
Wonder Woman was not bad on par with The A-Team.
I'm kind of tempted to revisit Battlestar Galactica the original.
Quote from: Groover on 06/19/2017, 03:04 PMI have just gone back to rewatching Star Trek Next Generation on Netflix.
Wonder Woman was not bad on par with The A-Team.
I'm kind of tempted to revisit Battlestar Galactica the original.
Yes, thank you.
I want to revisit Battlestar Galactica (and Buck Rogers) to see if I enjoy them still, as an adult.
Same for Bionic Woman.
And Wonder Woman.
As for TNG...I'll eventually rewatch them, but I watched them first-run on TV and they feel more "recent" than these other shows (that I watched when I was a wee lad).
I want to rewatch Land of the Lost, too (with my kids).
I have Buck Rogers on DVD. It was fun watching that over again. The third season they really shoot for the moon and change up the whole show.
Well went back and stared Star Trek Next Gen. I got chills watching Spock and Data. One without emotion the other suppressing his.
Saw this and was reminded of how weird collectors are about anything:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/investing/shares/lego-a-better-investment-than-shares-and-gold/
Quote from: blueraven on 01/15/2017, 09:27 PMI will say this for the record. The Vic Fontaine episodes are terrible.
And Garak is badass. I won't give you any spoilers other than that.
OH god yes . . . what was that s*&t?
and Garak is the man.
Voyager has a couple decent episodes, but even 5 seasons in, still something I could walk away from at any moment; at this point it just feels obligatory to get through it before I go on to enterprise lol
Quote from: Gredler on 07/28/2017, 12:41 PMVoyager has a couple decent episodes, but even 5 seasons in, still something I could walk away from at any moment; at this point it just feels obligatory to get through it before I go on to enterprise lol
enterprise sucks . . . season 1 showed so much promise but it goes off the deep end after that. I actually quite like Voyager but as the seasons go on it gets farther and further in between with better episodes,
I rank them
DS9
Orginal / TNG / Voyager
Enterprise
Speaking of Voyager....
FULL SPREAD http://youtu.be/PIGxMENwq1k
(https://junk.tg-16.com/images/bones_original_series.png)
Quote from: esteban on 09/15/2017, 01:47 AM(https://junk.tg-16.com/images/bones_original_series.png)
Ha! I'm keeping that!
Quote from: NightWolve on 09/15/2017, 12:23 PMQuote from: esteban on 09/15/2017, 01:47 AMhttps://junk.tg-16.com/images/bones_original_series.png
Ha! I'm keeping that!
Hell yes... :)