I have been for some time now interested in PC-Engine Hucard sportgames. Hucards because thats what I collect and play and sports games because they tend to get overlooked and can be very cheap, and some of them are really good fun.
Since sport games can be bit obscure and the library can be overwhelming I made a list of Hucard sport games for myself in order to get a better understanding of the library. I thought why not share it here, maybe someone can get some use from it. These are only Japanese PC-Engine releases. I'm sure there are games I have overlooked so feel free to fill in the blanks.
Baseball:
Kore Ga Pro Yakiou 89/Intec
Kore Ga Pro Yakiou 90/Intec
Naxat Stadium/Naxat
Power League/Hudson
Power League 2/Hudson
Power League 3/Hudson
Power League 4/Hudson
Power League 5/Hudson
Power League '93/Hudson
World Stadium/Namcot
World Stadium '91/Namcot
Dodgeball:
Cyber Dodge/Tonkin House
Hono Dodge Danpei/Hudson
Nekketsu Dodgeball/Naxat
Football:
Formation Soccer 90/Human
Formation Soccer on J-League/Human
J-League Greatest Eleven/Nihon Bussan
Nekketsu Soccer/Naxat
Power Eleven/Hudson
Golf:
Ganbare! Golf Boys/NCS
Jack Nicklaus Championship Golf/Victor Musical Instruments
Naxat Open/Naxat
Power Golf/Hudson
Winning Shot/DECO
Tennis:
Final Match Tennis/Human
Power Tennis/Hudson
World Court Tennis/Namcot
Wrestling:
Champion Wrestler/Taito
Fire Pro Wrestling 2nd Bout/Human
Fire Pro Wrestling 3 Legend Bout/Human
Fire Pro Wrestling Combination Tag/Human
Maniac Pro Wrestling/Hudson
Monster Pro Wrestling/ASK Kodansha
Other Sports:
Appare! Gate Ball/Hudson (Croquet)
Ballistix/Coconuts Japan (Futuristic ball game)
Break In/Naxat (Pool)
Bullfight/Cream Co (Boxing)
Digital Champ/Naxat (Boxing)
Hit The Ice/Taito (Hockey)
Kick Ball/NCS (Baseball/Dodgeball)
Power Sports/Hudson (Olympics)
Super Volleyball/Video System (Volleyball)
Tsuppari Dai Sumo/Naxat (Sumo Wrestling)
TV Sports Basketball/Victor Musical Instruments (Basketball)
TV Sports Football/Victor Musical Instrument (American Football)
TV Sports Hockey/Victor Musical Instruments (Hockey)
USA Pro Basketball/Aicom (Basketball)
World Beach Volley/ICS (Volleyball)
World Jockey/Namcot (Horse Racing)
Nice list. There are also some pretty fun ones on CD.
I've been getting into the baseball and golf titles recently. After that I do plan to try some wrestling titles. I'm still waiting on most of this stuff to arrive from Japan so I can't comment too much yet.
Wallaby!!
Ballistix
Battle Royale
Champions Forever Boxing
Battle Royal and Champion Forever Boxing are US exclusives. Wallaby looks more like a gambling simulator (haven't played it) and Ballistix is pretty futuristic but I'll add it to the list anyway.
Great list except all those football games are not football. They are Soccer!
All joking aside I am a big fan of the power league series, Power sports, TV Sports games, Super Volleyball, and hit the ice.
I know this is a hu card list but the J-League tremendous soccer 94 Super CD is fantastic!
Quote from: Keith Courage on 05/12/2017, 07:15 PMGreat list except all those football games are not football. They are Soccer!
All joking aside I am a big fan of the power league series, Power sports, TV Sports games, Super Volleyball, and hit the ice.
I know this is a hu card list but the J-League tremendous soccer 94 Super CD is fantastic!
Well I thought Football is more international, besides I'm from Europe so its only natural :)
I was suprised how much fun I had with the Hit The Ice. I have only played it on emulator since I haven't been able to find a cheap copy. Power league games are great, I haven't really been brought up with baseball but I have grown to like arcadey games of that genre. And I don't mind the actual sport anymore, quite like it actually.
Hany on the Road
:)
I like Power Golf a lot.
Quote from: Keith Courage on 05/12/2017, 07:15 PMGreat list except all those football games are not football. They are Soccer!
No, they are football. How much do american football players use their feet ? Almost never.
I don't know if this word is used in the US but american football is sometimes called gridiron in the UK or in other Commonwealth countries, which sounds much cooler .
I never knew there was a croquet game, has anyone ever played? I am a big fan of the actual game and now am curious to give it a try.
Quote from: shubibiman on 05/13/2017, 04:57 AMQuote from: Keith Courage on 05/12/2017, 07:15 PMGreat list except all those football games are not football. They are Soccer!
No, they are football. How much do american football players use their feet ? Almost never.
I don't know if this word is used in the US but american football is sometimes called gridiron in the UK or in other Commonwealth countries, which sounds much cooler .
Let me see you try to start a game of FOOTBALL without kicking the ball. I have watched a lot of games in my day and it always seems to need feet.
The only thing worse than the sport of soccer is the people who watch it.
I actually have it, got it part of a lot. I haven't played much of it but it feels kind of underwhelming, maybe it needs little more time. Croquet game I think is a great idea on paper, unlike in golf you have to always think about the next gate and being able to continue after a succesful gate creates nice streaks.
I too love the actual game, a great way to spend a summer day, build a makeshift course in park and have few beers with mates. And doesn't cost a penny (except a cheap croque set in the beginning)
Quote from: TheClash603 on 05/13/2017, 03:53 PMI never knew there was a croquet game, has anyone ever played? I am a big fan of the actual game and now am curious to give it a try.
Quote from: shubibiman on 05/13/2017, 04:57 AMQuote from: Keith Courage on 05/12/2017, 07:15 PMGreat list except all those football games are not football. They are Soccer!
I mean, in real football, you only use your feet, not just to kick the game off.
No, they are football. How much do american football players use their feet ? Almost never.
I don't know if this word is used in the US but american football is sometimes called gridiron in the UK or in other Commonwealth countries, which sounds much cooler .
Let me see you try to start a game of FOOTBALL without kicking the ball. I have watched a lot of games in my day and it always seems to need feet.
The only thing worse than the sport of soccer is the people who watch it.
Football :
http://youtu.be/RY2OEpAf5oY
American football (or hand football, or Gridiron) :
http://youtu.be/Fj8G9dGuNkU
Anyway, my favourite kind of football is rugby footba ll:
http://youtu.be/LOibsi-fIDA
But there's no rugby simulation on the PCE, which is a shame.
To be fair to Americans most of the PC-Engine football games have "soccer" in their names :)
I think the Japanese name for the sport comes from soccer.
Quote from: Winniez on 05/14/2017, 09:47 AMTo be fair to Americans most of the PC-Engine football games have "soccer" in their names :)
Exactly; and if it's not in the title, I bet it's in the manual.
Driving is not a sport? No F1's? And here I thought you was a European...or maybe formula is not a sport, it's a lifestyle!
Quote from: majors on 05/15/2017, 12:42 PMDriving is not a sport? No F1's? And here I thought you was a European...or maybe formula is not a sport, it's a lifestyle!
I'm from Finland so motorsport is practically the national sport here. I intentionally left out driving because its hard to define what costitutes to a motorsport game. Outrun doesn't feel like a sport, Motoroader doesn't, Final Lap Twin maybe etc. Maybe I should add them nevertheless?
Final Match Tennis feels pretty good, as does the Power Tennis. Tennis games have that nice pick and play quality in them.
Quote from: Winniez on 05/20/2017, 02:31 PMQuote from: majors on 05/15/2017, 12:42 PMDriving is not a sport? No F1's? And here I thought you was a European...or maybe formula is not a sport, it's a lifestyle!
I'm from Finland so motorsport is practically the national sport here. I intentionally left out driving because its hard to define what costitutes to a motorsport game. Outrun doesn't feel like a sport, Motoroader doesn't, Final Lap Twin maybe etc. Maybe I should add them nevertheless?
Final Match Tennis feels pretty good, as does the Power Tennis. Tennis games have that nice pick and play quality in them.
Best metal country. \m/ \m/
I don't know about the best but I do know we have the hightest amount of them per capita in the world.
Quote from: Winniez on 05/20/2017, 03:07 PMI don't know about the best but I do know we have the hightest amount of them per capita in the world.
Seems to be the national hobby, form a metal band. There are even metal bands for children. :lol:
I like the output of Germany and Sweden too, but for my money, I like Finland the best.
Children of Bodom !
A little bit off topic though ^^;
Driving sports simulation were rare back in the time as it was I think too difficult to render the sensations.
F1 Circus series are great games.
Anyway, even most of the football games have a more arcadish gameplay.
Quote from: TheClash603 on 05/13/2017, 03:53 PMI never knew there was a croquet game, has anyone ever played? I am a big fan of the actual game and now am curious to give it a try.
Don't. It's bloody terrible.
(https://web.archive.org/web/20230606142808im_/https://i.imgur.com/NP4ffMw.png)
A man can dream :(
You don't need this game when you've got the huge Formation Soccer 95. To me, this game is better than ISS and FIFA.
Quote from: shubibiman on 05/23/2017, 04:02 PMYou don't need this game when you've got the huge Formation Soccer 95. To me, this game is better than ISS and FIFA.
You're talking about the italian cup one right? Nah dude, ISSD has, for me, the perfect gameplay scheme, and that includes the graphics and the camera's perspective. It has the perfect blend of arcade + simulation. I dislike FIFA because the gameplay isn't all that good and goes towards the simulation side of things, and Formation Soccer because everything is too fast and loose, too arcadey for my taste. I also hate bird's eye perspective in soccer games.
That's only my nostalgia tainted personal opinion, of course.
PS: Allejo > Janco Tianno. (https://youtu.be/ouFA8kVzVqg) :mrgreen:
Quote from: guest on 05/23/2017, 01:36 PMQuote from: TheClash603 on 05/13/2017, 03:53 PMI never knew there was a croquet game, has anyone ever played? I am a big fan of the actual game and now am curious to give it a try.
Don't. It's bloody terrible.
I just bought a real set last week instead, my old one was falling apart.
Early FIFA games were really underwhelming in my opinnion. Especially when compared against the EA's own brilliant NHL series.
I played quite lot of the early FIFA games on PC and I would say the first good one was 96. Not sure about 95, that was SEGA exclusive but looks similar to the first FIFA.
I too vouch for ISSD being the best football game of its time, and NHL being the best sport game series.
Opps, didn't remember that it was a thread about Hucard games only ^^;
Power League IV is pretty damn good. I like that they separated auto and manual for fielding and base running. Base running is annoying to manage but I do like fielding myself.
Tennis games: World Court Tennis is quite good, even if the English localization is a hilarious disaster -- among the worst I've seen. The underlying engine is excellent, though, as it's basically a carbon copy of the terrific Famicom release Family Tennis. It'd be nice if the original Japanese release, Pro Tennis: World Court, got a fresh fan translation.
I've heard great things about Final Match Tennis but have only played it briefly. Davis Cup Tennis wasn't released in Japan, and anyway it's much better on the Genesis/Mega Drive -- the TG-16 version is stiff and controls poorly. Not sure if I've played Power Tennis.
Hit the Ice may be the best version of the three home console ports; it's certainly better than the horrible SNES port, but the Genesis version has some nice perks like a password system (the TG-16 game goes on far too long).
I found Sonic Spike Volleyball (aka World Beach Volley) very frustrating.
Davis Cup was released in Japan but as a SCD. It plays much like the computer versions.
FMT is probably the best tennis sim ever :
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/117765304
Tv sports hockey is the best of the bunch. Followed by hit the ice
Quote from: Gredler on 06/01/2017, 12:43 AMTv sports hockey is the best of the bunch. Followed by hit the ice
Trololololololol.
I troll you not. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and hockey is fundamentally more fun than any other sport, so inherently it makes for better videogames. The others sports start at a distadvantage.
Damn Canadians. :dance:
I'm not buying the cat game if there's a hockey minigame in it. I MEAN IT!
Quote from: guest on 06/01/2017, 02:48 PMI'm not buying the cat game if there's a hockey minigame in it. I MEAN IT!
This would actually be the *only* reason to support Catastrophy—a hockey mini-game with cat-goalie and/or FelinePowerPlay is needed and necessary, IMHO.
:)
This thread needs more Power Golf 2!
Honestly, I couldn't get into much other sports games. I do remember putting in some obscene time with the TV sports games when I was much younger*
*stupid
Still digging Power Eleven and Formation Soccer series. Cheap thrills but kind of strange to think that they were priced similarily to the top tier games when new. Hmm Formation Soccer J League or Soldier Blade, nah gotta go with the J League.
Quote from: Winniez on 09/14/2017, 09:07 PMStill digging Power Eleven and Formation Soccer series. Cheap thrills but kind of strange to think that they were priced similarily to the top tier games when new. Hmm Formation Soccer J League or Soldier Blade, nah gotta go with the J League.
That's funny, I never thought about the price of new sports titles. Obviously, it would have been a worthwhile purchase for sports fans.
But, damn, it's a rare sports game that is worthy...
:)
Why should sport games prices be lower ? They're not cheaper to develop.
Speaking of sports games Meta:
It always interests me that World court tennis featured a RPG aspect... a game which was a spin off of earlier titles. (And that the base of the game was literally reused for Final lap Twin a strange RPG spin off version of Final Lap. ) Personally I think it's kinda a stroke of genius by Namco compared to words on a menu select between games and actually gives you a story to your rise of greatness. I can't think of a sports game since that gave you as much of a story. I think modern games might be able to do something similar and bridge the gap between RPG players and sport game Players. No one has really done it sense, and probably for good reasons, but i think it is something that would be really neat to see done. Too often video games have bad story telling in favor of graphics. Stories are what we all do all the time, we create them, we collect them, we watch then, we tell them.
TLDR:
RPG sports mash up games are cool: PCE had 2
I'd like to see more games like this in the future
Story telling is important, many games have bad storytelling.
P.S. Gredler is crazy Hit the Ice >>>>>>TV sports Hockey
Quote from: shubibiman on 09/18/2017, 01:45 AMWhy should sport games prices be lower ? They're not cheaper to develop.
They shouldn't and I didn't mean to imply so.
However I don't think the complexity, quality or effort put into the game influenced that much to the MSRP price (atleast in Japan). It was mainly the ROM size and possible additional chips.
Quote from: shubibiman on 09/18/2017, 01:45 AMWhy should sport games prices be lower ? They're not cheaper to develop.
They are when you release the same game each year, only updating stats and sometimes changing a few variables. That's why almost all sports games released for North America are worthless within a year and clog up used game bins, even when priced as low as <$1.
Yeah I know that. But aren' we talking about early 1990's games ? Sports games were not released each year back then.
Quote from: Winniez on 05/24/2017, 01:37 AMEarly FIFA games were really underwhelming in my opinnion. Especially when compared against the EA's own brilliant NHL series.
I played quite lot of the early FIFA games on PC and I would say the first good one was 96. Not sure about 95, that was SEGA exclusive but looks similar to the first FIFA.
I too vouch for ISSD being the best football game of its time, and NHL being the best sport game series.
FIFA 95 is quite nice. Has quite good graphics and sound. It controls well. It's fun up to a point, there's a bug that if you just run down the touch line and shoot near the end the opposing goalie will just dive straight up in the air and you will score every time.
Quote from: wildfruit on 09/20/2017, 02:26 AMQuote from: Winniez on 05/24/2017, 01:37 AMEarly FIFA games were really underwhelming in my opinnion. Especially when compared against the EA's own brilliant NHL series.
I played quite lot of the early FIFA games on PC and I would say the first good one was 96. Not sure about 95, that was SEGA exclusive but looks similar to the first FIFA.
I too vouch for ISSD being the best football game of its time, and NHL being the best sport game series.
FIFA 95 is quite nice. Has quite good graphics and sound. It controls well. It's fun up to a point, there's a bug that if you just run down the touch line and shoot near the end the opposing goalie will just dive straight up in the air and you will score every time.
That's quite a bug...it would be fun to watch a compilation video of Old vs. New FIFA bugs.
And I am not a sports fan, especially futbol.
:)
Quote from: shubibiman on 09/20/2017, 01:40 AMYeah I know that. But aren' we talking about early 1990's games ? Sports games were not released each year back then.
They were over here, these are the first years of EA's stat updating franchises for Sega Genesis:
Madden 1990
NHL 1991
NBA Live 1991
Fifa 1993
This new model tainted sports games in general, as they became the games that sports fans had to know and often unlicensed one-off games were seen as cheap loser games by comparison. Having real names and stats in games became more important than gameplay or enjoyment. It evolved to the point where peopke began paying real money each year for the latest Xbox 360 dashboard skins of their favorite team(s).
Quote from: CrackTiger on 09/20/2017, 01:57 PMThis new model tainted sports games in general, as they became the games that sports fans had to know and often unlicensed one-off games were seen as cheap loser games by comparison. Having real names and stats in games became more important than gameplay or enjoyment.
Exactly! Nowadays every sports game without licensing is seen as a cheap, budget game that presumably no one plays. Back in the 8/16 bit era there was a big variety of soccer/basketball/etc. games on the market with comparable quality and people were capable of having fun with them. Nowadays everything is monopolized by few gaming companies and you don't hear of independent sports games, only EA Sports games and the odd Konami one in the mix (Pro Evolution Soccer).
Quote from: guest on 09/20/2017, 03:31 PMQuote from: guest on 09/20/2017, 01:57 PMThis new model tainted sports games in general, as they became the games that sports fans had to know and often unlicensed one-off games were seen as cheap loser games by comparison. Having real names and stats in games became more importanthe than gameplay or enjoyment.
Exactly! Nowadays every sports game without licensing is seen as a cheap, budget game that presumably no one plays. Back in the 8/16 bit era there was a big variety of soccer/basketball/etc. games on the market with comparable quality and people were capable of having fun with them. Nowadays everything is monopolized by few gaming companies and you don't hear of independent sports games, only EA Sports games and the odd Konami one in the mix (Pro Evolution Soccer).
Amen.
Mutant League Hockey/Football
...and all the more "arcade action" games...
In my high schools, one of the things that any guy who wanted to be cool had to do is play the NHL hockey games.
I remember how shocked I was when one of the hockey guys in my class admitted to trying TV Sports Hockey and said that he thought it wasn't that bad.
Quote from: esteban on 09/20/2017, 07:17 AMQuote from: wildfruit on 09/20/2017, 02:26 AMQuote from: Winniez on 05/24/2017, 01:37 AMEarly FIFA games were really underwhelming in my opinnion. Especially when compared against the EA's own brilliant NHL series.
I played quite lot of the early FIFA games on PC and I would say the first good one was 96. Not sure about 95, that was SEGA exclusive but looks similar to the first FIFA.
I too vouch for ISSD being the best football game of its time, and NHL being the best sport game series.
FIFA 95 is quite nice. Has quite good graphics and sound. It controls well. It's fun up to a point, there's a bug that if you just run down the touch line and shoot near the end the opposing goalie will just dive straight up in the air and you will score every time.
That's quite a bug...it would be fun to watch a compilation video of Old vs. New FIFA bugs.
And I am not a sports fan, especially futbol.
:)
Me either. It's one of very few I have. I like virtua tennis though.
Quote from: shubibiman on 09/20/2017, 01:40 AMYeah I know that. But aren' we talking about early 1990's games ? Sports games were not released each year back then.
06/24/1988 Power League
08/08/1989 Power League II
08/10/1990 Power League III
08/09/1991 Power League IV
08/07/1992 Power League V
10/15/1993 Power League '93
Fire Pro Wrestling 1989
FPW2 1991
Super FPW 1991
Mega FPW 1992
FPW3 1992
SFPW2 1992
SFPW3 1993
Fire Pro Women 1994
SFPW Special 1994
Blazing Tornado 1994
Fire Pro Women: JW vs JWP 1995
SFPW Queen's Special 1995
SFPWX 1995
FPW '96 1996
SFPWX Premium 1996
FPW S 1996
I don't know why games suffer series fatigue, maybe Western publishers just need to learn not to milk it? :-"
Quote from: guest on 09/20/2017, 06:22 PMFire Pro Wrestling 1989
FPW2 1991
Super FPW 1991
Mega FPW 1992
FPW3 1992
SFPW2 1992
SFPW3 1993
Fire Pro Women 1994
SFPW Special 1994
Blazing Tornado 1994
Fire Pro Women: JW vs JWP 1995
SFPW Queen's Special 1995
SFPWX 1995
FPW '96 1996
SFPWX Premium 1996
FPW S 1996
I don't know why games suffer series fatigue, maybe Western publishers just need to learn not to milk it? :-"
That series is still going strong
http://store.steampowered.com/app/564230/Fire_Pro_Wrestling_World/
Quote from: guest on 09/20/2017, 06:09 PMQuote from: shubibiman on 09/20/2017, 01:40 AMYeah I know that. But aren' we talking about early 1990's games ? Sports games were not released each year back then.
06/24/1988 Power League
08/08/1989 Power League II
08/10/1990 Power League III
08/09/1991 Power League IV
08/07/1992 Power League V
10/15/1993 Power League '93
You got a point here :)
I am still upset that APPARE GATEBALL never blossomed into annual installments.
Also, since this is a sports appreciation thread, let us rejoice and be happy for golf:
http://junk.tg-16.com/audio/Ganbare_Golf_Boys/Ganbare_Golf_Boys_(Track_1).mp3
http://junk.tg-16.com/audio/Ganbare_Golf_Boys/Ganbare_Golf_Boys_(Track_2).mp3
I don't always play golf games but when I do I play Winning Shot.
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion => Topic started by: Winniez on 05/12/2017, 05:48 PM