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QuoteYs: Book I & II bound for the virtual console in North America
(https://web.archive.org/web/20150208120154im_/http://www.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/ysiiius.jpg)Last month, Hudson released Ys: Book I & II on the Japanese Virtual Console. For 800 Wii Points ($8) you get two Ys games, which is a bargain. Hudson has not confirmed the Turbo Grafx-16 CD game for North America, but the ESRB gave it an "E" rating. I would say chances are good we're getting it in the future.
I spent some with the re-release and the games feel antiquated. But seeing Adol body slam enemies instead of using his sword brings back good memories. If you have the patience for old school action RPGs this package is for you and it's a good deal considering $8 is substantially cheaper than the price of the individually sold DS remakes.
Nice.
the writer calls it a pair of games, but every Ys fan knows its only one! i guess after he buys 'both' he will continue on the inernet hype machine about how FF7 was the best game of all time and ET was the worst, and etc.
but im happy to see i get rated, its on its way!
Quote from: kenomac78 on 11/17/2007, 01:06 PMthe writer calls it a pair of games, but every Ys fan knows its only one!
I always think of it as one game, but it's debatable (considering that it was originally released as two separate games).
Technically it's two games since that's how it was originally sold, but they're so close to each other and often bundled so I usually think of them as one.
It's two games. Anyone who thinks otherwise is out of their mind.
It has always been two games, and it always will be. The PCE games were put on one CD, but they are still very different, and not connected in any way except storywise.
Quote from: Seldane on 11/21/2007, 10:36 AM.....and not connected in any way except storywise.
.....and the fact that Book II is unplayable without playing through Book I. The PCE version plays as a single game with a nice long intermission, which is why I (and other loons) think of it as one game.
Quote from: guest on 11/21/2007, 11:13 AMThe PCE version plays as a single game with a nice long intermission
That's exactly how I've always looked at it.
I scored some soundtracks on ebay recently. Anyone want a copy of them? Is it cool with keranu if I share them on the forum? What website do I use to host them if you guys are interested and its cool with Keranu?
Keranu has no problem with it......or atleast I don't think he does. I've been using File Factory lately, they seem alot more reliable then Mega Upload.
No need to upload anything as you can get it here: gh.ffshrine.org/soundtracks/y
And here: https://downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/browse/Y
oh, ok cool. I had scored both book 1 and book 2 soundtracks complete with spines for only 3.99! I guess no one was bidding because they could just download them, :lol:
There is no Ys Book 1-2 soundtrack CD. Either you bought bootlegs or you got some other Ys soundtrack CDs.
These are what I bought. They don't look pirated, they seem to be by a pretty known soundtrack company.
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c167/photodavid/ysoundtrack.jpg)
Yeah upload all you want, I got no problem. Aaron might, but I doubt it.
well, maybe next time since seldane has links of it already, haha. Thanks for the Ok though keranu :)
Quote from: turbo D on 11/21/2007, 06:37 PMThese are what I bought. They don't look pirated, they seem to be by a pretty known soundtrack company.
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c167/photodavid/ysoundtrack.jpg)
Well, those are real soundtracks that exist, but, the ones you got, are bootlegs. They're made by Son May, I have plenty of stuff by them, though I prefer when I find the real thing. I believe all of Falcom's recordings(atleast, back then) are on King Records, not SM. Let's see, those are called Music From, I don't have those ones, not sure which arrangements those are.
Sorry, but those are Sonmay CDs, and ALL Sonmay CDs are bootlegs. There are no exceptions. :|
All the older Falcom CDs are from King Record. There are no exceptions here either. A couple of years ago they started releasing CDs on their own label.
:(
Oh, bootleg schmootleg.
It's the same fucking music you anal retentive freaks.
Sonmay is an ugly name.
Also: downloading for free > buying
Quote from: Validus on 12/13/2007, 04:10 PMBefore my dream of playing Ys Book 1+2 on TGCD came true
i tried to play throug Ys 1 on the Sega Master.....200XP to get to level 2!!>?? YOUR *****IN KIDDING ME i immediatley shut it off, freakin Ys on TGCD it only takes 50 to get to level 2. I would not be able to level up in the SMS or NES version no to mention the music is horrid, the TGCD version is the only PLAYABLE VERSION
I agree, I think the SMS version tortures you when it comes to gaining experience points. I think it was designed like this since the game would be short without all the leveling up. I haven't really played the NES one aside from a few expiremental minutes worth. The TGCD version is my favorite by far, but I think all the versions are playable.
I haven't played the sms version, but I can imagine, lol. The turbo version is awesome!
lol, I know of someone who would disagree big time about the Master System Ys I compared to TG-CD version.. :roll:
But you are totally right the TG-CD version totally kicks the shit out of any other version!!
Has anyone played the Wii VC version? I dont own the TG16 version and was thinking about purchasing it.
...my bad maybe its not out yet...
Quote from: BonkThis on 12/24/2007, 10:56 AMHas anyone played the Wii VC version? I dont own the TG16 version and was thinking about purchasing it.
...my bad maybe its not out yet...
It's out in jpn right now still no word on the u.s release.
Let alone what the hold-up is i have a copy of it as well for my pce.
I was thinking of down loading it any ways when...it does get a domestic release.
If you have it for your PCE then why bother? I was excited about Ys on VC, but then realized I could play it right now on my real Duo and not even have to worry about emulation. Besides, would you have ever though of playing a PCE game on a NINTENDO console back in the day? Something just seems wrong to me about that. Now for something like Dynastic Hero I can make and exception. $8 or $200...hmmm let me see...
Haha, seriously! The only thing that makes playing pc engine games on the wii ok, is that the wii's hardware was made by NEC. I would rather shell out the monster cash and get the turbo version of dynastic hero though. Playing on the real console is pure sex 8)
Ys SMS kicks ass. 8)
At some point I want to play through this copy of Ys for the Apple IIGS I've had sitting here forever, untouched.
It just seems like it'll be odd to play Ys on a computer.
That's pretty ironic considering it originally came out on computer! Oh well, now a whole generation can play what 1UP.com called one of the top ten most boring games of all time.
Idiots. It was obvious that the writer didn't even play long enough to understand the combat or get into the story. It's amazing how juvenile some game reviewers act.
I love Ys. I'm a member of FM-77's Ys forum. Falcom rules. End of story.
Quote from: geise on 01/23/2008, 07:49 AMIf you have it for your PCE then why bother? I was excited about Ys on VC, but then realized I could play it right now on my real Duo and not even have to worry about emulation. Besides, would you have ever though of playing a PCE game on a NINTENDO console back in the day? Something just seems wrong to me about that. Now for something like Dynastic Hero I can make and exception. $8 or $200...hmmm let me see...
Don't forget that there was a time that Nintendo was supposedly looking at releasing the PC Engine in the US, but backed out. It sounds wierd, but, I remember hearing about this over the years. That would've been wierd, we would've had Mario games on the Turbo...
Quote from: ParanoiaDragon on 01/24/2008, 12:49 AMQuote from: geise on 01/23/2008, 07:49 AMIf you have it for your PCE then why bother? I was excited about Ys on VC, but then realized I could play it right now on my real Duo and not even have to worry about emulation. Besides, would you have ever though of playing a PCE game on a NINTENDO console back in the day? Something just seems wrong to me about that. Now for something like Dynastic Hero I can make and exception. $8 or $200...hmmm let me see...
Don't forget that there was a time that Nintendo was supposedly looking at releasing the PC Engine in the US, but backed out. It sounds wierd, but, I remember hearing about this over the years. That would've been wierd, we would've had Mario games on the Turbo...
From what I know, Hudson Soft originally tried having Nintendo sell their PC Engine system since they were good "friends" on the NES, but I guess Nintendo declined. So NEC took over instead.
Quote from: geise on 01/23/2008, 07:49 AMIf you have it for your PCE then why bother? I was excited about Ys on VC, but then realized I could play it right now on my real Duo and not even have to worry about emulation. Besides, would you have ever though of playing a PCE game on a NINTENDO console back in the day? Something just seems wrong to me about that. Now for something like Dynastic Hero I can make and exception. $8 or $200...hmmm let me see...
Simple moving parts and any thing disc based will break down in the end.
Beside i could keep that wear and tear down for my duo-r.
Other i like to have it on the vc for any time i don't feel like digging out,my pce to play it.
Btw i've down loaded DH as well for the vc.
It's great being able to play it in english without spending a fortune for a copy of it.
Yeah it is weird playing a,TG16 game on the wii.That's like when sega became a third party and there games show up on a nintendo consoles.
Heck they used to be rivals too.
I've been waiting for months for Ys to be released on the Virtual Console....
I never got to play it back in the day, and I can tell that it's exactly my kind of game.
WHY, NEC, with all the delays?
Quote from: doczoidberg on 01/29/2008, 11:01 AMI've been waiting for months for Ys to be released on the Virtual Console....
I never got to play it back in the day, and I can tell that it's exactly my kind of game.
WHY, NEC, with all the delays?
Most guess it's the talent or maybe a "license issue" who knows btw it's,Hudson that's handling the,TG16 titles for the VC not nec.
You can read about the Ys serise more at this site.
http://hg101.classicgaming.gamespy.com/ys/ys.htm
I see the game listed as a 8/4/08 release on the VC. Who wants to bet it gets postponed again?
I have wanted to play Ys ever since it was first released, like, 15 years ago....
And now (supposedly), it's being released on my friggin' birthday.
Couldn't be more appropriate.
The pessimist in me is expecting something to happen to screw this all up. I'm betting that my internet craps out for some reason on Monday.
By the way, how exactly are we supposed to pronounce the name of this game? I always say "Wise", but I've heard other people say "Ease".
Quote from: sideshow on 08/02/2008, 01:44 PMI see the game listed as a 8/4/08 release on the VC. Who wants to bet it gets postponed again?
Power of positive thinking - it
will be released on time!
Quote from: doczoidberg on 08/02/2008, 11:20 PMBy the way, how exactly are we supposed to pronounce the name of this game? I always say "Wise", but I've heard other people say "Ease".
It's pronounced as
ease in the intro. cinema, so that's what I stick to.
Quote from: sideshow on 08/02/2008, 01:44 PMI see the game listed as a 8/4/08 release on the VC. Who wants to bet it gets postponed again?
Yeah i seen that if does get out then :P Given how noa has been giving the shaft,for u.s owners lately. While europe and japan get more release for the vc.
Well, Ys got delayed. Maybe tomorrow will look more optimistic? :|
Quote from: guestIt's pronounced as ease in the intro. cinema, so that's what I stick to.
You pronounce it as E-S. Standard singular "E" pronunciation and non-stressing "S".
Quote from: Dark Fact on 08/10/2008, 07:32 PMYou pronounce it as E-S. Standard singular "E" pronounciation and non-stressing "S".
Indeed. I also like to follow that up with
'the ideal utopia'. :)
Quote from: nat on 01/23/2008, 10:28 PMAt some point I want to play through this copy of Ys for the Apple IIGS I've had sitting here forever, untouched.
It just seems like it'll be odd to play Ys on a computer.
I have it for the PC! Adol looks like Chewbacca. The DOS music is epic! *boopboopableepdoop*
Personally I think the virtual console blows anyways. You get no book/case, and you end up with a downloaded file for X amount of $$ that you can't even let your friends borrow because it's tied to your Wii system which has limited memory, and could also fail at any moment.
Not to mention, playing old games on a battery powered remote is idiotic!
That and it's annoying to constantly read about all the Turbo bashing in magazines and on sites because the reviewers are dopey and grew up playing Mario Kart and Sonic only because they weren't cool enough to have a TG back in the day.
Quote from: ArkhanThat and it's annoying to constantly read about all the Turbo bashing in magazines and on sites because the reviewers are dopey and grew up playing Mario Kart and Sonic only because they weren't cool enough to have a TG back in the day.
Gamer's loyalty was a thing that the TG-16 really had going against it back in the day. I can't even begin to describe the number of Nintendo and Sega loyalists who were gung-ho about their consoles and proceeded at every opportunity to slam the TG. You look at it in retrospect and you could see how pathetically sad it really was. :(
Quote from: Dark Fact on 08/12/2008, 10:11 PMQuote from: ArkhanThat and it's annoying to constantly read about all the Turbo bashing in magazines and on sites because the reviewers are dopey and grew up playing Mario Kart and Sonic only because they weren't cool enough to have a TG back in the day.
Gamer's loyalty was a thing that the TG-16 really had going against it back in the day. I can't even begin to describe the number of Nintendo and Sega loyalists who were gung-ho about their consoles and proceeded at every opportunity to slam the TG. You look at it in retrospect and you could see how pathetically sad it really was. :(
yep yep.
Back then I had all 3. I played the Sega and Turbo more. but i didnt care. It was about the games not the label. :)
............Mario is still a tool though! :-D
Looks like it came out today, finally. http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2008/08/25/wiiware-and-virtual-console-monday-dancing-skeleton-edition (http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2008/08/25/wiiware-and-virtual-console-monday-dancing-skeleton-edition)
I read that they fixed the filtering issue.
Quote from: DJLobo on 08/25/2008, 02:00 PMLooks like it came out today, finally. http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2008/08/25/wiiware-and-virtual-console-monday-dancing-skeleton-edition (http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2008/08/25/wiiware-and-virtual-console-monday-dancing-skeleton-edition)
About damn time still that's noa for ya keeping the release's down to a trickle.
Quote from: TurboXray on 08/25/2008, 09:02 PMI read that they fixed the filtering issue.
Goody, no more blurry cataract filtering. Is it a selectable option? Are they going to extend it to the other games?
Time to get some more Wii points.
Or I suppose I could just fire up my Duo again. Am I a sucker for buying the game yet again?
I downloaded it today and I like the fact that its widescreen and doesn't look stretched but it does look rather pixely. The sound is quite good and I can't say I'm an audiophile but I was expecting the mp3 quality to be a little muffled. I didn't have a chance to do a comparison as my turbo is in storage on the moment(had to make room in the baby's nursey). The colors did look very vibrant to me but I've never seen rgb in action so I don't know if it's up to that quality. The pixely look I'm referring to is in the opening sequence during scrolling animations. The actual gameplay seems a little faster but maybe its just been a while since I played. Anything else different anybody has noticed? I think they did a pretty good job.
YES! It's about DAMN TIME!!! :D
Ys! For the VC!
Now everyone can marvel in the splendor of this game! :D
Oh yeah, 800 posts! :wink:
Quote from: guestQuote from: TurboXray on 08/25/2008, 09:02 PMI read that they fixed the filtering issue.
Goody, no more blurry cataract filtering. Is it a selectable option? Are they going to extend it to the other games?
I think it should be an option.
Doubtful that Hudson will make it an option.
Anyways, reviews are being put up all over the place and people really really don't like the collision combat in this game. :lol:
Quote from: Dark Fact on 08/27/2008, 12:04 PMAnyways, reviews are being put up all over the place and people really really don't like the collision combat in this game. :lol:
Weenies!
I've only read the IGN review so far, which was a fair review and better than I was expecting, but I get the feeling that the reviewer didn't finish the game. He seemed to like the combat system, but he totally didn't talk about how compelling the story was and how cool the villians were. He also said the graphics lacked detail, which I disagree with considering how many unique tiles there are throughout the game with some delicate detail in spots (Bell Tower is a great example); totally a step above other RPGs for it's time that repeated the same graphics throughout the game. I also cringed a little when he said the games originated on Sega systems and how he went on about Yuzo Koshiro without mentioning Ryo Yonemitsu.
http://wii.ign.com/articles/902/902424p1.html
gaming journalism is a bad joke.
leave it to a bunch of Wii totin kan00bies to complain about a retro game's combat system -_-
It reminds me of that time IGN said the remake of FF3 on DS sucked because it played like a 1990's RPG.
imaaaagineee that
I DL'd it from VC a few days ago, I am liking it. If you don't have it and you have a wii it's worth it!
QuoteThe storytelling is extremely primitive by today's standards, as is the combat...
-Nintendo Power
Sacrilege! Blasphemy! Narrow-mindedness!
Quote from: Arjak on 10/25/2008, 06:48 PMQuoteThe storytelling is extremely primitive by today's standards, as is the combat...
-Nintendo Power
Sacrilege! Blasphemy! Narrow-mindedness!
They're (Nintendo) still bitter about getting their ass kicked overseas by the PC Engine...
By todays standards?.........
What kinda dipshit comment is that?!
By todays standards, all of Nintendo's virtual console games have crappy graphics, poor storytelling (Zelda? rofl), and low quality music.
at the time, Ys I had some badass action. Nintendo is just jealous that Zelda didn't have sweet anime cutscenes unless you count the CD-i....... ... riiiight.
todays standards: The worst way to examine a retro game.
I agree 100 percent. A game has to be judged on its own merits and what it did at the time, not by the whole historical picture. The one exception that I see is when a game does something that revolutionizes the industry, and transcends its period in history.
Ys on the turbo transcended its time in its storytelling methods, use of music, and ability to stay interesting whether you're halfway through for the first time, or starting from the beginning for the 27th.
Ys kicks ass and it always will. Nintendo is just being biased because they see the game as similar to Zelda, and therefore, is a threat. IMO, anyway.
Who the hell reads Nintendo power anyways? The hardcore elite?...Tatsujin? Well maybe Tats does, but that's about it. Seriously though Ys is one of those games that will always be misunderstood. Especially if you have never played it until now. It also depends on the type of games a person has been playing before playing Ys. If someone has always played recent RPG's, N64 Zelda - now, (insert popular game here "cough Final Fantasy *cough*) then they will most likely not understand Ys. Back in the day Ys Book I-II got amazing reviews by most mags. I remember EGM giving it a 10. I think it was the first 10 a game has ever received by that mag at the time. I remember at first wondering why I just run into the enemies during my first play. When I figured out the gameplay and got what the game was trying to achieve I really got into it. The whole presentation was just amazing for it's time. It still is hands down my favorite gaming experience ever! The only other game that comes close is Panzer Dragoon Saga.
So charging into an enemy head on to attack isn't primitive by today's standards?
Ok guys... Keep drinking that kool-aid.
:D
Quote from: guest on 12/21/2009, 12:13 PMSo charging into an enemy head on to attack isn't primitive by today's standards?
Not really; it's just different. Even if you must label it as primitive, then you have to admit that it was equally so when it was new and that "today's standards" are irrelevant (as they relate to controls anyway), for pressing a button to swing a weapon is most certainly not a recent invention. In any case, the point is that it's futile to point out the less refined nature of classic games (they derided more than just the controls); considering the limitations of the hardware, of course they can't compare to today's games... except in being fun and replay value, two qualities rarely found in today's games.
Back in my day...! ;)
I get the point, but I don't think the statement in that article was unfair. Sure, you can put a whole bunch of "but, but, but" comments around it, but it's not a ridiculous thing to say.
the western gaming world always compares Ys/Hydlide/Dragon Slayer to Zelda.
Ys/Hydlide did it first! neenerneenerneener
and it had anime, even it it's most primitive forms. Zelda only had that in the instruction manual.
I read Nintendo Power. Even if there are favoritism-style reviews. theres free posters, and you get shirts and crap for being subscribed.
Why does anybody care what some random reviewer has to say about an 18 year old game?
its mostly got to do with these are published reviews in magazines usually by people who were around "back in the day", so its annoying when they have a skewed "compare it to todays standards" view of the games.
or you get the youtube ones who misinform the viewer. Thats annoying because then the ignorance multiplies with each view!
Quote from: guest on 02/04/2010, 02:14 AMthe western gaming world always compares Ys/Hydlide/Dragon Slayer to Zelda.
Ys/Hydlide did it first! neenerneenerneener
and it had anime, even it it's most primitive forms. Zelda only had that in the instruction manual.
I read Nintendo Power. Even if there are favoritism-style reviews. theres free posters, and you get shirts and crap for being subscribed.
I am very impressed by your correct spelling of neenerneenerneener.
Games should always be compared to today's standards. After all, anyone who buys a Virtual Console game is spending money and time on that, whereas they could have instead spent money and time on Darksiders or Heavy Rain or whatever. It would be goofy to say "huh, this game sucks, but I bet it was cool ten years ago. I MUST BE HAVING FUN". Either it's a good game, or it's not.
By today's standards, Ys Book I & II is awesome.
There are people on this very board who never played the Turbo until after the year 2000 and ended up loving Ys. If old games can't possibly live up to "today's standards", then how did that happen? They never played Ys in 1990, so they can't judge it by some mythical "1990 standard". All they know is that the game rules TODAY. And I know it, too.
So a game needs to have 5908723459087 buttons for playing, a 1 hour tutorial before starting to actually play the game, and crazy uber 3d graphics to be a good game by todays standards? Well that's how I see most games these days. If it's simple fun gameplay then it's obviously lame and so 1990's.
Games should be based on enjoyability. Problem is, everyone enjoys games differently and has certain expectations from games. Also, especially if they just started playing games when saturn, psx, n64 were around, or even the ps2/xbox/GC/DC era.
Quote from: Emerald Rocker on 02/17/2010, 09:17 PMBy today's standards, Ys Book I & II is awesome.
Truth.
Believe.
In fact, the battle system in Ys I & II creates a wonderful "flow" to the game that makes traveling/battling much less tedious than a standard "stop, position yourself, press button to attack, re-position, press button to attack, repeat" play mechanic.
:)
Plus, it adds a whole new meaning to leveling-up (or should I say "bumping & grinding") in action-RPG's.
Quote from: geise on 02/18/2010, 09:36 AMSo a game needs to have 5908723459087 buttons for playing, a 1 hour tutorial before starting to actually play the game, and crazy uber 3d graphics to be a good game by todays standards? Well that's how I see most games these days. If it's simple fun gameplay then it's obviously lame and so 1990's.
Dude, you just described EVE Online. :shock:
Quote from: Dark Fact on 03/20/2010, 03:13 PMQuote from: geiseSo a game needs to have 5908723459087 buttons for playing, a 1 hour tutorial before starting to actually play the game, and crazy uber 3d graphics to be a good game by todays standards? Well that's how I see most games these days. If it's simple fun gameplay then it's obviously lame and so 1990's.
Dude, you just described EVE Online. :shock:
No, not even a 1 hour tutorial is enough to understand what the hell is going on in EVE.
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion => Topic started by: Seldane on 11/16/2007, 07:07 PM