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Poll
Question: Best classic Sci-fi: Star Trek, Star Wars, or Doctor Who?
Option 1: Star Trek votes: 9
Option 2: Star Wars votes: 7
Option 3: Doctor Who votes: 5
Title: Best Sci-fi
Post by: guyjin on 01/29/2008, 01:14 AM
Pick your favorite scifi.
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: nat on 01/29/2008, 01:18 AM
Trek forever.
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: GUTS on 01/29/2008, 01:20 AM
Star Trek easily.
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: TR0N on 01/29/2008, 01:32 AM
Star Trek for the win.

Btw i like star wars but that's more fantasy to me not scifi.
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: Nazi NecroPhile on 01/29/2008, 01:40 AM
Giant orange and brown scarves for the mf'n win!

If Jar Jar Binks and "I've got the higher ground" didn't exist, then I'd vote for Star Wars.
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: Keranu on 01/29/2008, 03:58 AM
I voted Star Wars and when I say that, I mean STAR WARS - none of that "prequel" shit. There are only three Star Wars movies: Star Wars (yes it's not called EPISODE IV: A NEW HOPE), Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi.
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: Turbo D on 01/29/2008, 04:18 AM
turbo D likes StarWars!!!  8)
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: Tatsujin on 01/29/2008, 05:51 AM
me also for ep.IV ~ ep.VI

But Star Trek IV is awesome!
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: CrackTiger on 01/29/2008, 08:06 AM
Star Trek. I'm not a fan of Dr Who and Star Wars is barely fleshed out compared to Star Trek.
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: nat on 01/29/2008, 11:11 AM
Hey, where did all these Star Wars loving chodes come from? Last night it was a landslide in favor of Trek.

I'll take you out with my phaser from across the room while you're still trying to get close enough to hack me up with your lightsaber.
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: guyjin on 01/29/2008, 11:42 AM
OK, so me and necromancer are gonna garrote people with the Doctor's scarf, who's our getaway driver?  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: Nazi NecroPhile on 01/29/2008, 11:49 AM
Since you started the thread, maybe your vote counts twice.  Nah, I think K-9's voting.  :lol:
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: Kitsunexus on 01/29/2008, 02:26 PM
Where is the "I don't care for either" option?
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: GUTS on 01/29/2008, 02:42 PM
It's called not voting.
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: guyjin on 01/29/2008, 05:18 PM
How did I accidentally put this in console chat?  ](*,)
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: Ceti Alpha on 01/29/2008, 05:32 PM
lol. Awesome thread.  :mrgreen:

...do I really have to even say where my vote went? heh

Though the new BSG is missing from the choices - not that I would have necessarily voted for it, but it's a great show. I'm glad there is only going to be 4 seasons though.
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: SignOfZeta on 01/29/2008, 05:51 PM
I voted Who, purely based on the limited choices availible. Not only am I sick of Star Wars and Trek, far too much of both series is just simply really disapointing and bad garbage that ruins the original vision. Say what you want about Doctor Who, but it rarely disappoints its fans.

My favorite piece of scifi ever is Blade Runner though. By a huge margin. My favorite scifi books are the Hitchhikers Guide series and Slaughterhouse 5.
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: nat on 01/29/2008, 06:13 PM
Hitchhiker's Guide is great.

I like Dr. Who quite a bit, but I absolutely love Star Trek. At least, the original vision (as you put it).

Star Wars I'm kind of indifferent about. It never did much for me. The only one of the movies I really like is The Empire Strikes Back.

The Phantom Menace was almost a good movie if it wasn't for that shithead Jar Jar Binks.
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: Nazi NecroPhile on 01/29/2008, 06:15 PM
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 01/29/2008, 05:51 PMI voted Who, purely based on the limited choices availible. Not only am I sick of Star Wars and Trek, far too much of both series is just simply really disapointing and bad garbage that ruins the original vision. Say what you want about Doctor Who, but it rarely disappoints its fans.

My favorite piece of scifi ever is Blade Runner though. By a huge margin. My favorite scifi books are the Hitchhikers Guide series and Slaughterhouse 5.
Am I your evil twin brother or something?  I agree with these statements 99% (I like the Dune series a bit more than your picks).
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: nat on 01/29/2008, 06:16 PM
Dune is great, too. Necromancer, do you like the SciFi remake of the original and Children of Dune (really this is both the second and third book into one long movie)?
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: esteban on 01/29/2008, 09:18 PM
Dr. Who all the way (we can discuss the doctors and the seasons, if you wish :) )

I love the original Star Trek, of course, but damn, Star Trek cannot compare to Dr. Who as far as "exploring new worlds" and "creating awe" is concerned. Next Generation was totally enjoyable, but,  ugghhhh, it was sterile and over-produced compared to the breadth of Dr. Who.

Who's greatest weakness is the tendency to stretch things out (it was a serial, after all) that doesn't always translate well when watching extended viewings.

Star Wars... while great, really doesn't have the breadth and variety -- but how could it? We're talking about three films. For three films, they really do kick ass.

Bottom line: I don't know if it is fair to compare Dr. Who to Star Wars because a bazillion Dr. Who episodes is bound to have more gems than Star Wars. Of course, the crap-to-quality ratio might help put things in perspective... but I love Dr. Who's crap a lot more than Star Wars' crap (the 3 recent unmentionable SW films, and the unmentionable digitally enhanced versions of the first SW films, etc.)

ST and Dr. Who are much more comparable because they have had a varied history over the years.

Jon Pertwee & Tom Baker are my faves, by the way.

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Personally, I love Blake's 7. It is one of my favorite sci-fi series, even though it suffered from some weak episodes and weak seasons (much like Star Trek and Dr. Who)...
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: Ceti Alpha on 01/29/2008, 09:57 PM
QuoteDune is great, too. Necromancer, do you like the SciFi remake of the original and Children of Dune (really this is both the second and third book into one long movie)?
The remakes aren't too shabby actually.
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: guyjin on 01/29/2008, 11:49 PM
YES! Pertwee & Tom Baker for the win.

I recently joined a Doctor who discussion group - Did you know colin baker(nocaps intentional) actually has fans?!?!?!  #-o the idiocy of some people...
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: Nazi NecroPhile on 01/30/2008, 10:09 AM
Quote from: nat on 01/29/2008, 06:16 PMDune is great, too. Necromancer, do you like the SciFi remake of the original and Children of Dune (really this is both the second and third book into one long movie)?
I do like 'em.  For low budget productions (more so for the first than the second), they're nicely done and pretty faithful to Herbert's books, which David Lynch's most certainly wasn't (though still fun).  Considering their success (and profitability), I'd like to see them do the rest of the series.
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: nat on 01/30/2008, 11:08 AM
I agree completely.

My only thing is that they are too long, especially the first, to watch in one sitting. I guess that's because they originally aired as a miniseries or something.
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: Ceti Alpha on 01/30/2008, 11:52 AM
The new Doctor Who is awesome, as is Torchwood. But Tom Baker is the Doctor.
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: SignOfZeta on 01/30/2008, 06:35 PM
Quote from: ceti alpha on 01/30/2008, 11:52 AMThe new Doctor Who is awesome, as is Torchwood. But Tom Baker is the Doctor.
Gawd, Torchwood is so terrible. *Sooo* terrible.
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: r_benchley on 01/30/2008, 07:04 PM
Tom Baker is awesome as the Fourth Doctor, but my new favorite is Christopher Eccleston as the Ninth Doctor.
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: guyjin on 01/31/2008, 12:57 AM
I like Eccleston pretty good, but I'd put him third, after Tom Baker and Jon Pertwee. Partly because his time was so short; I kinda feel like they wasted a regeneration. I can't judge Tenant yet, since he's 'in progress', but I suspect he'll be right up there, too.

I've never seen torchwood. What's it like? what makes you love it/hate it?
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: Hobo Xiphas on 01/31/2008, 03:08 AM
Needs more options

Keranu, add Abraxas, Andromeda, Beastmaster, Beyond the Stars, Starcrash, and TekWar
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: guyjin on 01/31/2008, 03:20 AM
Quote from: Xiphas Classic on 01/31/2008, 03:08 AMNeeds more options

Keranu, add Abraxas, Andromeda, Beastmaster, Beyond the Stars, Starcrash, and TekWar
never heard of any of these except andromeda, and that doesn't belong on a list of best anything.
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: Hobo Xiphas on 01/31/2008, 03:29 AM
I guess we have different definitions of 'best'  [-(
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: Keranu on 01/31/2008, 04:57 AM
Quote from: Xiphas Classic on 01/31/2008, 03:08 AMNeeds more options

Keranu, add Abraxas, Andromeda, Beastmaster, Beyond the Stars, Starcrash, and TekWar
Only if I can add Crest of the Stars ;) .
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: MissaFX on 01/31/2008, 05:05 AM
The camp of the first star trek series keeps it timeless and enjoyable time and time again.
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: Rainbow_Bright on 01/31/2008, 06:07 AM
Doctor who! How can you not love the timelord?
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: Nazi NecroPhile on 01/31/2008, 09:59 AM
Quote from: r_benchley on 01/30/2008, 07:04 PMTom Baker is awesome as the Fourth Doctor, but my new favorite is Christopher Eccleston as the Ninth Doctor. 
Eccleston was indeed a good Doctor - too bad his (as well as Billie Piper's) reign was so short.

Quote from: rainbow_bright on 01/31/2008, 06:07 AMDoctor who! How can you not love the timelord?
Agreed.  I'll add that no Borg, Sith Lords, or Romulans will ever compare to the Daleks.
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: SignOfZeta on 01/31/2008, 12:50 PM
QuoteEccleston was indeed a good Doctor - too bad his (as well as Billie Piper's) reign was so short.
She's coming back this season.
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: Rainbow_Bright on 01/31/2008, 01:06 PM
really? cool..Billie is pretty :)
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: Nazi NecroPhile on 01/31/2008, 01:55 PM
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 01/31/2008, 12:50 PMShe's coming back this season.
Goody!  She handled the role of the Doctor's companion quite well (and she ain't exactly hard on the ol' peepers either).

*edit*

I saw her in Mansfield Park last Sunday.  It wasn't anything to get excited about, but it wasn't horrible either.
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: Hobo Xiphas on 02/01/2008, 03:00 AM
Quote from: Keranu on 01/31/2008, 04:57 AMOnly if I can add Crest of the Stars ;) .
Go for broke!
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: Kitsunexus on 02/01/2008, 03:12 AM
Quote from: Xiphas Classic on 02/01/2008, 03:00 AM
Quote from: Keranu on 01/31/2008, 04:57 AMOnly if I can add Crest of the Stars ;) .
Go for broke!
YOU CAN'T GIVE IT UP! TRIUMPH OR DIE!
Title: Re: Best Sci-fi
Post by: TR0N on 02/01/2008, 03:56 AM
Quote from: guest on 01/31/2008, 09:59 AM
Quote from: r_benchley on 01/30/2008, 07:04 PMTom Baker is awesome as the Fourth Doctor, but my new favorite is Christopher Eccleston as the Ninth Doctor. 
Eccleston was indeed a good Doctor - too bad his (as well as Billie Piper's) reign was so short.

Quote from: rainbow_bright on 01/31/2008, 06:07 AMDoctor who! How can you not love the timelord?
Agreed it's a shame he quit afther one season.

Most of what i herd for the reason was he was worry about being,typecast if he had continue on with the serise.