I was over on Play-Asia.Com looking at PC-Engine games when i seen they had a used copy of Magical Chase for sale labeled "Fan Edition".
Are there two different versions of this game? and if so what are the differences?Not that am in the the market for Magical Chase at the moment(Too pricey for me)but i was just curious being a newcomer to the PCE and such.
Thanks for any info on this everyone. :D
The Japanese game was released twice. The original print comes in a standard "old style" HuCard jewel case. Later it was rereleased with the PC Engine Fan Magazine. This version came in the "new style" HuCard case. The actual games and manuals are 100% identical though, its only the cases that are different. The PCE Fan Edition is probably a bit rarer, but they are both priced the same usually.
The US Magical Chase though has quite a few differences, and is graphically superior to both Japanese versions. I'll let someone else point these out though.
Thanks for the info SD it explains it. :D
The Japanese version (both of them) of this game is really a big, giant rip-off. You end up paying $120-$140 for a version of the game that is markably inferior to the US counterpart. If you have a good eye and a little patience you can pick up the US version of the game for as little as $25 more.
On a game like Magical Chase, when you're going to be spending over $100 either way, it's definitely worth your while to spring for the slightly more costly US release.
Quote from: SuperDeadite on 05/10/2008, 11:52 AMThe US Magical Chase though has quite a few differences, and is graphically superior to both Japanese versions. I'll let someone else point these out though.
please allow me to be that someone else.
https://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/dare_to_compare_mc.html (https://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/dare_to_compare_mc.html)
here the cosmetically differences between the orig. and the 5th anniversary PCE FAN release:
/magicalchasealleu9.jpg
Sorry to pull this out of it's grave. But I find this interesting that only 2 years ago the US version of Magical Chase was "only a bit more" haha. I guess now the JP version is a steal eh?
Quote from: nat on 05/10/2008, 03:45 PMThe Japanese version (both of them) of this game is really a big, giant rip-off. You end up paying $120-$140 for a version of the game that is markably inferior to the US counterpart. If you have a good eye and a little patience you can pick up the US version of the game for as little as $25 more.
On a game like Magical Chase, when you're going to be spending over $100 either way, it's definitely worth your while to spring for the slightly more costly US release.
Quote from: oldskool on 05/14/2010, 03:08 PMSorry to pull this out of it's grave. But I find this interesting that only 2 years ago the US version of Magical Chase was "only a bit more" haha. I guess now the JP version is a steal eh?
Well that's an understatement, heh.
How long ago was Dean trying to sell his
sealed US Magical Chase for $600? I'm betting a loose +manual version was probably under $150 back then.
Quote from: CosMind on 05/10/2008, 10:49 PMQuote from: SuperDeadite on 05/10/2008, 11:52 AMThe US Magical Chase though has quite a few differences, and is graphically superior to both Japanese versions. I'll let someone else point these out though.
please allow me to be that someone else.
https://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/dare_to_compare_mc.html (https://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/dare_to_compare_mc.html)
This link doesn't appear to be active anymore:(
Quote from: Mathius on 05/14/2010, 10:28 PMQuote from: CosMind on 05/10/2008, 10:49 PMQuote from: SuperDeadite on 05/10/2008, 11:52 AMThe US Magical Chase though has quite a few differences, and is graphically superior to both Japanese versions. I'll let someone else point these out though.
please allow me to be that someone else.
https://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/dare_to_compare_mc.html (https://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/dare_to_compare_mc.html)
This link doesn't appear to be active anymore:(
-Ripple's sprite was re-drawn for the US version, looks better.
-Lots of graphical changes in the first stage (see here (https://youtu.be/YbDWWhW2kSo)).
There may be other differences but those are the only ones I'm aware of.
Quote from: jperryss on 05/15/2010, 10:21 AMQuote from: Mathius on 05/14/2010, 10:28 PMQuote from: CosMind on 05/10/2008, 10:49 PMQuote from: SuperDeadite on 05/10/2008, 11:52 AMThe US Magical Chase though has quite a few differences, and is graphically superior to both Japanese versions. I'll let someone else point these out though.
please allow me to be that someone else.
https://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/dare_to_compare_mc.html (https://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/dare_to_compare_mc.html)
This link doesn't appear to be active anymore:(
-Ripple's sprite was re-drawn for the US version, looks better.
-Lots of graphical changes in the first stage (see here (https://youtu.be/YbDWWhW2kSo)).
There may be other differences but those are the only ones I'm aware of.
Wish I knew first hand. I am so poor :cry:
Quote from: jperryss on 05/14/2010, 05:20 PMQuote from: oldskool on 05/14/2010, 03:08 PMSorry to pull this out of it's grave. But I find this interesting that only 2 years ago the US version of Magical Chase was "only a bit more" haha. I guess now the JP version is a steal eh?
Well that's an understatement, heh.
How long ago was Dean trying to sell his sealed US Magical Chase for $600? I'm betting a loose +manual version was probably under $150 back then.
Correct, I picked up a US Magical Chase that was complete in box for around $165 around the time I posted that message.
Certain individuals that have since appeared on the scene decided that this US stuff is actually a lot rarer than it really is, hence the sudden price spike in a lot of the "rare" US games. It's disgusting, if you ask me.
Quote from: Mathius on 05/15/2010, 12:24 PMWish I knew first hand. I am so poor :cry:
No biggie. I would say the differences are trivial, and given the price difference between the two, I certainly wouldn't go with the US version for the minor graphical changes.
Quote from: nat on 05/15/2010, 04:32 PMCorrect, I picked up a US Magical Chase that was complete in box for around $165 around the time I posted that message.
Certain individuals that have since appeared on the scene decided that this US stuff is actually a lot rarer than it really is, hence the sudden price spike in a lot of the "rare" US games. It's disgusting, if you ask me.
Which is why most of my library (including MC) consists of the 'cheaper' PCE versions.
Quote from: jperryss on 05/15/2010, 05:14 PMNo biggie. I would say the differences are trivial, and given the price difference between the two, I certainly wouldn't go with the US version for the minor graphical changes.
Not quite true, the first level of the game is almost completely redrawn in the US version. Beyond that though, yeah, the differences are minor.
You can find a cached version of Black Tiger's comparison piece here (http://web.archive.org/web/20080613001334/www.superpcenginegrafx.com/dare_to_compare_mc.html).
Quote from: nat on 05/15/2010, 04:32 PMCertain individuals that have since appeared on the scene decided that this US stuff is actually a lot rarer than it really is, hence the sudden price spike in a lot of the "rare" US games.
I've gone back and looked at tons of REALLY old threads since I started posting here and it's price has been talked about tons of times about how expensive it was. From what I've been able to gather it's been rising over the years, it's no recent trend. Sure there is a super spike in the price currently but people have been complaining about it's price for years here.
Example: Here is one in 2005...
Quote from: guest on 08/31/2005, 03:39 PMAnyway, I know MC always fetches $250+ and Bonk 3 HuCard is almost always $100-$150+ and I'm afraid I just can't swing that right now...as much as I'd like to, and I hate to lowball you.
Good luck!
and in response he says:
Quote from: D-Lite on 08/31/2005, 03:52 PMFor a loose MC.... :)
I'm looking around $600 for the Magical Chase. This is as pristine as you can get. Fresh-out-of-a-case fresh (no, there is no case of these in my living room!)
So D-Lite is saying even back then it was $250 for a loosie? Yes, this MC he is selling for $600 was sealed but you get the point I think. Here is the thread I was quoting and I don't see anyone arguing with the prices listed all the way back in 2005.
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=950.0#quickreply
Magical Chase (US) was easily obtained in the $150-$300 range (not sealed, of course) for, like, 10 years. To say it's price has been rising steadily for years is misleading; it was at a virtual plateau forever with relatively minor fluctuations up and down from sale to sale (of course, you'll always have the odd sale way above or below the mean). Over the past year it's gone from said range to THOUSANDS of dollars. I'd argue the term "super spike" is understating the matter, even.
Back in those days, a $300 Magical Chase was the *worst* thing we had to worry about. Of course people will always complain about expensive shit, the only difference is back then our "expensive shit" was like $300 and not $3,000.
There are 5 releases of Magical Chase (4 Japanese and 1 North American) covering 3 different hardwares.
Does anyone own or has anyone played the CD version!?
I've been wanting to find out about if for more years than I care to remember now!
Cheer.
Quote from: JAPJAC on 05/20/2010, 08:16 AMThere are 5 releases of Magical Chase (4 Japanese and 1 North American) covering 3 different hardwares.
Does anyone own or has anyone played the CD version!?
I've been wanting to find out about if for more years than I care to remember now!
Cheer.
You sure about that? One US version (huey), two JP versions (huey).
Quote from: jperryss on 05/20/2010, 06:01 PMYou sure about that? One US version (huey), two JP versions (huey).
Plus one GameBoy Color version and one PC version.
Quote from: guest on 05/20/2010, 06:09 PMQuote from: jperryss on 05/20/2010, 06:01 PMYou sure about that? One US version (huey), two JP versions (huey).
Plus one GameBoy Color version and one PC version.
True that!
both, the normal and the fan edition are up on ebay atm
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Video-Games-Consoles-/1249/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=Magical+Chase
but little bit on the high side :)
I just picked up the fan version off yahoo japan for $100
Quote from: PunkCryborg on 04/03/2013, 10:29 AMI just picked up the fan version off yahoo japan for $100
cool.... thats a fair deal. do you live in japan? or how do you shop on yahoo auctions jp?
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Magical Chase CD was in development, but canceled. I've always thought it was the source for the new graphics in the USA version HuCard. Like they had started to make the CD version with all new visuals and upgrades, so they kept in what little was finished.
Too bad they didn't remember to make the game better than Cotton.
:D
Quote from: guest on 04/03/2013, 09:34 PMToo bad they didn't remember to make the game better than Cotton.
:D
It is if you enjoy playing shooters but suck at them (like me).
love the hidden sound option on this game.. and you get to hear a track which i think doesn't appear in the game... hmm might hook the pce up later this weekend if i get the time.
Quote from: SuperDeadite on 04/03/2013, 08:30 PMMagical Chase CD was in development, but canceled. I've always thought it was the source for the new graphics in the USA version HuCard. Like they had started to make the CD version with all new visuals and upgrades, so they kept in what little was finished.
The hidden bgm in the HuCard game being used for a tutorial in the GBC version gives the impression that Quest had more content planned even during the HuCard phase.
Quote from: SuperDeadite on 05/10/2008, 11:52 AMThe US Magical Chase .. graphically superior to both Japanese versions. I'll let someone else point these out though.
I'll point out that this is incorrect.
I for one enjoy Magical Chase, But its really not that great of a shooter, Arkhan is correct give me Cotton over Magical Chase any day.
For the people that own it how do you store yours? I keep mine on the shelf mixed in with the other TG16/Duo games.
Quote from: HardcoreOtaku on 04/05/2013, 02:31 PMQuote from: SuperDeadite on 05/10/2008, 11:52 AMThe US Magical Chase .. graphically superior to both Japanese versions. I'll let someone else point these out though.
I'll point out that this is incorrect.
I agree, it's incorrect. They are different graphics, but I prefer the Japanese graphics. The tetris-blocks and shit are alot nicer than the busted up wooden crap, for example.
http://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/dare_to_compare_mc.html
Only complaint I have is the enemy differences.
game still kinda blows either way, though!
Hmm, I didn't realize that the differences were that extreme. I find myself not really preferring either one. I guess I like the castle in the Japanese version more, but why the changes with the main character sprite? They're so minor. I guess they wanted a slightly slightly less SD witch (the hat is smaller) but she's still pretty SD.
The pumpkin and rickety bridge crap makes the US version seem more halloweeny and retarded. The Japanese one is more just random colorful crap.
I'm not sure what the tetris blocks are really supposed to represent, but they look better.
Quote from: SMF on 04/07/2013, 01:48 AMFor the people that own it how do you store yours? I keep mine on the shelf mixed in with the other TG16/Duo games.
I purchased a bunch of spare Card Cases, and when games like this came out, I made a custom side label for them, so they are right on the shelf (or in storage) with the rest of the "normal" jeweled case releases.
Quote from: guest on 04/07/2013, 09:04 PMThe pumpkin and rickety bridge crap makes the US version seem more halloweeny and retarded.
...and yet you prefer Cotton...?
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 04/07/2013, 11:47 PMQuote from: Psycho Arkhan on 04/07/2013, 09:04 PMThe pumpkin and rickety bridge crap makes the US version seem more halloweeny and retarded.
...and yet you prefer Cotton...?
yes, because Cotton sets that up, and maintains it. It also does it better because it's a more consistent theme across all of the levels and enemies.
It also doesn't have a Japanese counterpart that doesn't have this theme.
So basically said, most peeps rage over magical chase because of the existence of its US counterpart?
Certainly.
Quote from: Tatsujin on 04/08/2013, 11:09 PMSo basically said, most peeps rage over magical chase because of the existence of its US counterpart?
Yep.
I bet if the game never came to the USA, it would barely be talked about. The moron collectors certainly wouldn't mention it because they don't actually play games, and importing is hard when you're a moron.
and it would also be like 10x better than its rumored image is today, right?
more like ruined image
Quote from: Tatsujin on 04/09/2013, 09:48 AMand it would also be like 10x better than its rumored image is today, right?
Probably not.
Like I said, the first time I fired up Magical Chase, I was oblivious to its rarity or its cost.
and I was like yeah this blows. I'm bored.
FINAL CONSENSUS: Magical Chase isn't a bad game. Haters gonna hate. THANK YOU FOR READING, GOOD NIGHT.
Quote from: esteban on 04/09/2013, 09:26 PMFINAL CONSENSUS: Magical Chase isn't a bad game. Haters gonna hate. THANK YOU FOR READING, GOOD NIGHT.
THIS BAZZY APPROVED /bazzy.gif
I actually bought the game when it came out... loved it... of course there are better games... but the combination of graphics, sound, j-style and of course now the rarity (non-collectors ignore this) makes it an amazing title ;-)
It's really buggin me that the US Version has different grafx, do I really have to get it? it would be the first US Game in my Collection ....
Has anyone played the Japanese PC version?
If so is it using the US graphics or Japanese for level 1, the sprite, the shop, and enemies?
Quote from: DragonmasterDan on 04/10/2013, 10:27 AMHas anyone played the Japanese PC version?
If so is it using the US graphics or Japanese for level 1, the sprite, the shop, and enemies?
Probably the PCE aspects, since the GBC version does.
Quote from: Shadow on 04/10/2013, 10:13 AMI actually bought the game when it came out... loved it... of course there are better games... but the combination of graphics, sound, j-style and of course now the rarity (non-collectors ignore this) makes it an amazing title ;-)
It's really buggin me that the US Version has different grafx, do I really have to get it? it would be the first US Game in my Collection ....
Rarity has nothing to do with amazing.
Quote from: guest on 04/10/2013, 10:58 AMQuote from: Shadow on 04/10/2013, 10:13 AMI actually bought the game when it came out... loved it... of course there are better games... but the combination of graphics, sound, j-style and of course now the rarity (non-collectors ignore this) makes it an amazing title ;-)
It's really buggin me that the US Version has different grafx, do I really have to get it? it would be the first US Game in my Collection ....
Rarity has nothing to do with amazing.
wrong. at least for some crazy collectors ;-)
Crazy sounds about right. Either a game is fun or it isn't.
Quote from: SMF on 04/07/2013, 01:48 AMI for one enjoy Magical Chase, But its really not that great of a shooter, Arkhan is correct give me Cotton over Magical Chase any day.
For the people that own it how do you store yours? I keep mine on the shelf mixed in with the other TG16/Duo games.
I just separate all the hucards from the cases and keep them in the plastic slips in a Japanese plastic container..
I really love this game. There is some hectic strategy in the way you place your star options whether you want them to stay fixed or move around including the way they fire, can be fixed or directional. The weapons and bombs you purchase also add an element to the gameplay.
And the later layered scrolling is imo just amazing for an huey shooter.
It's one of the first games I take out whenever I hook up my PCE these days. Maybe to others it's not necessarily one of the best shooters on the system, but to me it will always be a personal favorite.
... I actually maybe like Cotton even more, but Magical Chase is better for a casual playthrough. Cotton requires me to be more alert in order to play well.
If I want a casual playing shmup, Chuka Taisen is where its at.
mongoloid monkey dudes on clouds shooting ancient Chinese artwork! YEAH.
Sorry, I usually don't have enough time to take part in the conversations on the forum (too much work and things going on). However, I've recently uploaded Magical Chase ads you may find interesting. They, I believe, explain how to order the Fan Edition - the double-page ad came from a PC Engine Fan I think, and the other was in a Weekly Famitsu:
http://www.videogameden.com/hucard.htm?mac
They are in the 'Omake' section, at the bottom of the review page.
I can also add pictures of the PC version - but as far as I remember, it is identical to the Japanese HuCard game (even the CD tracks are identical to the HuCard game as far as I can tell). SuperDeadite, I'm really curious about the Magical Chase CD you mentioned - I have never heard about it, which is usually enough to wet the appetite for more!!!! I need to do some research on this... :)
I love when we dig out some old threads like this one :D
Quote from: lkermel on 04/17/2013, 01:48 PMSorry, I usually don't have enough time to take part in the conversations on the forum (too much work and things going on). However, I've recently uploaded Magical Chase ads you may find interesting. They, I believe, explain how to order the Fan Edition - the double-page ad came from a PC Engine Fan I think, and the other was in a Weekly Famitsu:
http://www.videogameden.com/hucard.htm?mac
...
Splendid! :pcgs:
Now, of course, WE NEED someone to translate the damn pages. :pcgs:
I'm surprised nobody has commented on this, yet!
Quote from: guest on 04/16/2013, 02:46 PMIf I want a casual playing shmup, Chuka Taisen is where its at.
mongoloid monkey dudes on clouds shooting ancient Chinese artwork! YEAH.
chuka taisen actually is really underrated... years ago friend and me finished the game and we grew rather fond of it tbh.
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