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Title: Bomberman 94'
Post by: Ratix on 09/24/2008, 02:02 PM
i just felt like pointing out that this game is the exact same as the genesis/mega drive version. i wonder why though... could it have been sales?
Title: Re: bomberman 94'
Post by: hoobs88 on 09/24/2008, 02:05 PM
Quote from: Ratix on 09/24/2008, 02:02 PMi just felt like pointing out that this game is the exact same as the genesis/mega drive version.
...except for the number of players. 4 players on Genesis. 5 players on PC Engine. :dance:
Title: Re: bomberman 94'
Post by: Nazi NecroPhile on 09/24/2008, 03:17 PM
As far as game play goes, they're pretty much the same.  Graphically, the genny version lacks a lot of detail (i.e. - flat, single colored ground) and is nowhere near as colorful.  The genny version has extra animated stars on the opening cinema, but it also lacks the underwater wavy effect, has a whites only crowd at the 'victory' screen, and is missing some of the animated spectators on a few multi-player maps.
Title: Re: bomberman 94'
Post by: TR0N on 09/24/2008, 11:09 PM
Music on the genesis version better,but graphically the pce version wins hands down.

Other that the pce has the edge suporting 5p then 4p on the genesis version.

That's all realy when it boils down to it.
Title: Re: bomberman 94'
Post by: Ceti Alpha on 09/25/2008, 12:07 AM
Is there a comparison page somewhere here on elsewhere on the internetz? I'd like to see/hear the differences.
Title: Re: bomberman 94'
Post by: nat on 09/25/2008, 12:22 AM
Quote from: ceti alpha on 09/25/2008, 12:07 AMIs there a comparison page somewhere here on elsewhere on the internetz? I'd like to see/hear the differences.
Not that I know of, but here's a side by side comparison for you:

PC EngineSega Genesis
(https://cdn.mobygames.com/screenshots/2017607-mega-bomberman-turbografx-16-titleoptions.png) (https://cdn.mobygames.com/screenshots/2016239-mega-bomberman-genesis-title-screen.png)
(https://cdn.mobygames.com/screenshots/2017877-mega-bomberman-turbografx-16-select-stage.png) (https://cdn.mobygames.com/screenshots/2016362-mega-bomberman-genesis-single-player-start.png)
(https://cdn.mobygames.com/screenshots/2018048-mega-bomberman-turbografx-16-area-1.png) (https://cdn.mobygames.com/screenshots/2016485-mega-bomberman-genesis-single-player-level.png)
(http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss114/bethcongo/Bomberman94J-005.png) (http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss114/bethcongo/MegaBombermanUE_007.jpg)
(http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss114/bethcongo/Bomberman94J-004.png) (http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss114/bethcongo/MegaBombermanUE_005.jpg)
(http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss114/bethcongo/Bomberman94J-003.png) (http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss114/bethcongo/MegaBombermanUE_004.jpg)
(http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss114/bethcongo/Bomberman94J-002.png) (http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss114/bethcongo/MegaBombermanUE_000.jpg)
(http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss114/bethcongo/Bomberman94J-001.png) (http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss114/bethcongo/MegaBombermanUE_003.jpg)

(https://web.archive.org/web/20190108232433im_/http://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/img/Bomberman942.gif) (https://web.archive.org/web/20190108232433im_/http://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/img/mega_bomberman2.gif)
(https://web.archive.org/web/20190108232434im_/http://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/img/Bomberman947.gif) (https://web.archive.org/web/20190108232434im_/http://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/img/mega_bomberman7.gif)
(https://web.archive.org/web/20190108232434im_/http://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/img/Bomberman949.gif) (https://web.archive.org/web/20190108232434im_/http://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/img/mega_bomberman9.gif)
(https://web.archive.org/web/20190108232435im_/http://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/img/Bomberman9416.gif) (https://web.archive.org/web/20190108232435im_/http://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/img/mega_bomberman16.gif)
(https://web.archive.org/web/20190108232434im_/http://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/img/Bomberman9412.gif) (https://web.archive.org/web/20190108232435im_/http://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/img/mega_bomberman12.gif)
(https://web.archive.org/web/20190108232435im_/http://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/img/Bomberman9418.gif) (https://web.archive.org/web/20190108232435im_/http://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/img/mega_bomberman18.gif)

The TurboGrafx version makes the Genesis version look like an NES game.
Title: Re: bomberman 94'
Post by: Tatsujin on 09/25/2008, 08:41 AM
BM'94 belongs to the engine. anything else is garbage.
Title: Re: bomberman 94'
Post by: Ceti Alpha on 09/25/2008, 08:45 AM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 09/25/2008, 08:41 AMBM'94 belongs to the engine. anything else is garbage.
...and teh jury has spoken.  :mrgreen:  =D>
Title: Re: bomberman 94'
Post by: Nazi NecroPhile on 09/25/2008, 09:35 AM
Quote from: nat on 09/25/2008, 12:22 AMNot that I know of, but here's a side by side comparison for you:
Hot linking picture fail!  :lol:

Anyway, here's CrackTiger's comparison: superpcenginegrafx.net/bomberman_94_comp.html

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Title: Re: bomberman 94'
Post by: Ratix on 09/25/2008, 10:37 AM
NEAT! but as for the sound thing i really didn't notice much change in it
Title: Re: bomberman 94'
Post by: nat on 09/25/2008, 12:38 PM
Quote from: guest on 09/25/2008, 09:35 AM
Quote from: nat on 09/25/2008, 12:22 AMNot that I know of, but here's a side by side comparison for you:
Hot linking picture fail!  :lol:
That's weird, the hotlinked pictures worked for hours and hours yesterday. I guess overnight MobyGames decided it wasn't gonna fly?

Either way, CrackTiger's comparison is much more comprehensive than what I posted, so folks should go check that out.
Title: Re: bomberman 94'
Post by: Ceti Alpha on 09/25/2008, 02:02 PM
I knew I remembered seeing that comparison before. CrackTiger's comparison is great.  =D>

But man, the Genny version is lackluster in comparison to the PCE version.  [-X
Title: Re: bomberman 94'
Post by: Digi.k on 09/25/2008, 04:00 PM
I do prefer the genny sound though.. the pce version.. bomberman 94 has the weakest music compared to the other bomberman games. imo.
Title: Re: bomberman 94'
Post by: nat on 09/25/2008, 04:15 PM
I agree it has the weakest sound out of all the Turbo entries, but I still prefer the Turbo sound of BM94 over the Genesis version.
Title: Re: bomberman 94'
Post by: Tatsujin on 09/25/2008, 08:39 PM
Quote from: Digi.k on 09/25/2008, 04:00 PMI do prefer the genny sound though.. the pce version.. bomberman 94 has the weakest music compared to the other bomberman games. imo.
that's right so far, but the BM'93 and original BM BGM blows all others away with ease. BM'94 most weak point was teh sloppy BGM.
Title: Re: bomberman 94'
Post by: CrackTiger on 09/25/2008, 10:52 PM
The Genesis version has some pretty bad slowdown in spots, mainly the final stage, even though it lacks nearly all of the background animation. The PC Engine version has a tiny bit of flicker that most people wouldn't notice.

One area is dark (black) with a spotlight on Bomberman in the PC Engine version, but the entire background in uncovered in the Genesis version.

I haven't compared the music directly yet, but so far the Genesis version sounds better overall.

Game & Watch Kirby has a detailed comparison in the works. I'll be providing a bunch of media for it, two videos of which i have up on youtube-

Mega Bomberman (https://youtu.be/SLW5QiPfo1A)
Bomberman '94 (https://youtu.be/pDKsbaIzctE)
Title: Re: bomberman 94'
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on 09/27/2008, 02:08 AM
News flash, Super Bomberman 3 for the SNES is ALSO a version of Bomberman 94, though, I believe most the music is different.  Also, the Genny version does have a few different songs.  And, I dig BM94's music over the Genny's.  Super Bomberman 4 however, IIRC, uses alot of songs from BM94.

http://youtu.be/sGHVCTLTk7U
http://youtu.be/RLIEtSrCUPI
http://youtu.be/muqR-1rtVG8
http://youtu.be/AfzadbW0MXg
http://youtu.be/Vh8c1cp-c-g
Though, I do like some of the beats in Super Bomberman 3, they're fat, no doubt.
Title: Re: bomberman 94'
Post by: awack on 09/27/2008, 12:08 PM
I did not know about Super Bomberman 3, while not a direct port of BM 94 it does have the same overall theme, but the graphics have taken a nose dive and the music isn't as good in my opinion.
Title: Re: bomberman 94'
Post by: SignOfZeta on 09/27/2008, 01:14 PM
Yeah, it was sales. The Mega Drive was all but dead in Japan by the time this game came out, so it was probably an export-oriented afterthought. Hence the drop in quality. It could have been better than it was for sure.
Title: Re: bomberman 94'
Post by: CrackTiger on 09/27/2008, 08:50 PM
Quote from: ParanoiaDragon on 09/27/2008, 02:08 AMNews flash, Super Bomberman 3 for the SNES is ALSO a version of Bomberman 94, though, I believe most the music is different.  Also, the Genny version does have a few different songs.  And, I dig BM94's music over the Genny's.  Super Bomberman 4 however, IIRC, uses alot of songs from BM94.
Super Bomberman 3 only uses a similar aesthetic style and is to BM'94/MB what the <16-bit Bonk or Sonic games are to each other. It's cool that they remade classic Bomberman tunes like BM'93's title music though. :)