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PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Retrogate having a sale on the TurboEverdrive +others
Quote from: jeffhlewis on September 23, 2014, 03:39:23 AMWe were the table with the imports (I.e. the good stuff).And the taco shirt!
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Help list the hard to find PCE SHMUPS
Quote from: JKM on January 08, 2014, 04:59:27 PMI would say that all of the PCE shmups are hard to find. I go to Gamestop every week looking for some, and they never have any. They just ask me if I've played the latest Call of Duty since I'm a harcore shooter fan.Interestingly enough, I have a friend that bought a copy of Radiant Silvergun at an Electronics Boutique (now owned by Gamestop) back in the day. He keeps the receipt to prove it. I don't know if they ever had any PCE stuff, but I could see them possibly having had some of the PCE CD since it's region free.
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Help list the hard to find PCE SHMUPS
Quote from: rag-time4 on January 06, 2014, 05:37:34 PMGood thread!I've been a user of RFGeneration for a while, so my collection is listed there.
The US version of Syd Mead's Terraforming seems legitimately hard to find.
Image fight isn't hard to find, but it's hard to beat.
The only thing that could improve this thread is a link to 98pacecar's PCE collection on pcedaisakusen.net
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Help list the hard to find PCE SHMUPS
Quote from: guest on January 06, 2014, 08:16:07 PMUnfortunately, it seems that 98pacecar wasn't interested in non-collector discussion after all.I'm still around, just taking some time to read older threads. That and play more of what I've already picked up. Kind of addicted to the first Download right now. I keep trying to get further into it to see how much worse the engrish gets!
Quote from: guest on December 05, 2013, 10:01:58 AMHeh, neat as an oddity. Is the Son Son looking monkey game any fun?I'd put it in the category of playable. Really nothing on this system is good enough to classify as fun outside of Sango Fighter and I think that's just my nostalgia for the pc version.
Quote from: jeffhlewis on December 05, 2013, 10:39:54 AMDHG Hunter is the guy who brings his A'Can to MGC each year...not sure how many games he has for it, though the past few times we've had the Sonic/Dragon/Guy-with-baseball-bat game (forgot the name, heh).Yea, since CGE has died, I try to make the trip to MGC each year. Usually ends up being my favorite show. Just wish they could solve the problem with Milwaukee and move to a bigger place. Last year was a bit snug.
You in the area for MGC? You should definitely come this year. We have some awesome stuff in the works for the 2014 show.
Quote from: PunkCryborg on December 04, 2013, 10:22:52 PMWow dude thanks for sharing the pics man! I played that baseball player platformer thats like sonic. Great game and very bright and colorful. Sango fighter was also pretty cool. Definitely a lot of potential for this machine. I know a lot of people who collect thisalso do for Gamate and Watara Supervision which I also find really interesting obscure systems.Did they have the Bomberman clone available at the MGC? It might be worth bringing it to give something new to try out. Past that though, the library is pretty bad.
Quote from: guest on December 04, 2013, 09:58:50 PMThanks for not answering my question.I think we were typing at the same time, so I didn't see your reply.
Seriously, not to sound rude, but you have very rare games that are important in gaming history. Have you considered getting them dumped?
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Help list the hard to find PCE SHMUPS
Quote from: guest on December 03, 2013, 10:30:43 AMI think a German lawyer would be more appropriate here. They are more tenacious in their arguments. The French lawyer would be the one surrendering (perhaps by saying something like "Good day").Quote from: 98pacecar on December 02, 2013, 06:33:07 PMReally? Now you are going to start spewing personal attacks after admonishing me about the same?It's not an insult when it's true.
By arguing the definition of words like a french lawyer, you've removed all doubt that you're a collectard fool. Good day.
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Help list the hard to find PCE SHMUPS
Quote from: PunkCryborg on December 02, 2013, 09:47:54 PMI played one 2 years ago at MGC and have always been interested in it since. Would have been an awesome machine for shooters. got a pic of your a'can collection together posted anywhere?I don't right now, but I will take some for you. I've always been impressed that there was one available to play at MGC. It's good to see folks getting the chance to try something so obscure. I usually end up spending some time down in that room each year, just checking out what I don't have.
Quote from: Tatsujin on December 02, 2013, 09:55:38 PMok one question here. you have all that uber many stuff, but what did you get into PCE'ing so late? I mean, it's like almost impossible to me to have that big of a pile of games and consoles, but in the same time ignored the PCEs existence over almost 3 decades.. or waht was the reason for it?.. just wonderingHonestly, there's no real reason I can point to. I've had a number of TG16 games and have always been impressed with the quality, but I never made the jump to PCE. I'm disappointed in myself now that I have a proper PCE as the difference in the US and Japanese libraries reminds me a lot of the Saturn. The US library has some great titles, but the Japanese library almost has too many great titles. It's been a hole in my collection for too long, so I'm glad to finally be working on filling it.
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Help list the hard to find PCE SHMUPS
Quote from: PunkCryborg on December 02, 2013, 09:33:40 PMDude you got some crazy stuff listed in there. Do you have a complete A'can set???Technically no. I've never found confirmation that Rebel Star was actually released, but outside of that I have the other 12 games cib as well as the console cib in a rough box. The port of Sango Fighter is pretty good, given how bad Sango Fighter is!
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Help list the hard to find PCE SHMUPS
Quote from: guest on December 02, 2013, 08:52:57 PMNope, I have no collection experience at all.Quote from: 98pacecar on December 02, 2013, 12:33:53 PMThough I will disagree that Vestcunt hit the nail on the head, that was nothing more than a rant from a simple mind based on not even enough information to call it limited. You yourself say I "seemingly know jack shit about the PCE". How do you or he know that?Uh... by your posts? My two-month old joke is funny because you match the stereotypes. You don't know what you're committing to. You are content to buy whatever Tats or other internet strangers tell you is a set. You don't know what a bootleg Sapphire looks like (hint: larger ring than any other PCE disc). You call yourself a collector, but the massive library of (five) SGX games is a mystery to you. You don't care about price, nostalgia, or gameplay, you just want to buy the rarest, most-expensive games (of which you are clueless) ASAP.
This is non-fiction, so don't be offended. You reveled all of this in your first few posts, hence Necro's "seemingly know jack". It's painfully obvious. Stop calling yourself a collector and you'll appear less comical. A Collector is a knowledgeable expert with a pre-existing collection. Try: "Noob Looking to Blow Wad, Follow Herd."
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Help list the hard to find PCE SHMUPS
Quote from: guest on December 02, 2013, 04:43:01 PMThanks for the info. Magical Chase US will be out of reach unless someone finds a crate of them somewhere. It's price is just crazy. I wasn't aware that some of the US versions were tweaked from the JPN versions, outside of language. I'll dig that up and see what it has.QuoteThe personal insults came out after Vestcunt took a swing at me.If you actually look at what he posted, it's a quote from two months ago about people who want to buy every game, even though they are unfamiliar enough with the library to have to ask what games are "worth", before blindly paying what they believe to be "fair market value".
The only game you should be on the look out for to snatch up before it's gone is the English version of Magical Chase. It's not simply a translation of the PCE version and has unique graphics. Air Zonk also has some artistic changes. There is a thread around here that details some of the other differences between TG-16 and PCE versions of games. Sinistron and Psychosis for example have different order of stages.
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Help list the hard to find PCE SHMUPS
Quote from: guest on December 02, 2013, 06:10:43 PMReally? Now you are going to start spewing personal attacks after admonishing me about the same?Quote from: 98pacecar on December 02, 2013, 04:47:01 PMPlease, show me where I asked for "teh rarez". I honestly want to know, no BS, no hidden agenda, I want to see what it is I said that led you to believe that is what I was asking for. I honestly don't see it myself.Are you a troll or just an maroon? I can't tell. The dictionary definition of rare is "coming or occurring far apart in time; unusual; uncommon", which is entirely analogous to 'hard to find'.
I asked for titles that are hard to find, that does not imply rare or even expensive.
As you yourself pointed out, Darius Alpha, arguably one of the rarest titles on the system, is readily available. So it is not hard to find despite being rare and expensive. My question was what titles are hard to find. Nothing more, but some of the folks sure read more into it.
Quote from: guest on December 02, 2013, 06:10:43 PMI don't think I've said to anybody that I think they are wrong. Even throughout the shit slinging, I'm still getting good info.Quote from: 98pacecar on December 02, 2013, 04:47:01 PMEither way, I'd prefer this thread lived on to discuss what my intent was, but it looks like that's just not going to be possible.How so? You already have your answer, so what else is there to discuss? If you (or anyone else) thinks I'm wrong, please head over to eBay and/or Yahoo Japan and prove me wrong; I did check most of the games mentioned thus far on eBay, and the Seiya Monogatari mook is the only one that didn't have a current listing.
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Help list the hard to find PCE SHMUPS
Quote from: esteban on December 02, 2013, 04:48:26 PMEPILOGUE: Every soul at pcenginefx is holding hands as a consensus is reached—"We can learn to live with one another and be civil! We really can! Yay!"Followed by the sound of Neo-Geo.com finally going thermonuclear due to the imbalance in the force!
And from that moment forward, the gentle breeze of tranquility swept through the forums.
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Help list the hard to find PCE SHMUPS
Quote from: guest on December 02, 2013, 04:16:02 PMPlease, show me where I asked for "teh rarez". I honestly want to know, no BS, no hidden agenda, I want to see what it is I said that led you to believe that is what I was asking for. I honestly don't see it myself.Quote from: 98pacecar on December 02, 2013, 01:55:03 PMAnd see, there is good information that is not on the lists that show up when you Google. In fact, until Tat mentioned that title I would have not known it fit my criteria. If I hadn't asked, would I have eventually known? Maybe. Being that it fits the criteria of why I started this thread, it's a huge help to me.Because that's not what you asked. Asking "What're teh rarez so I can snatch 'em up and not miss out?!?" is miles away from "Besides the 110, what other games have shewty goodness hidden inside?"
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And that's a fair stance. It's wrong as pointed out above. The lists on the net vary in quality and none of them give me the information I was looking for. From what I can tell, even the list stickied in this very forum is missing at least one title past the one Tat gave me. Again, why not ask and find out for sure?
Quote from: guest on December 02, 2013, 04:16:02 PMBesides Cychorider, there's other games that have hidden shewties (Somer Assault) or at least shewty stages (Fray and Shockman). There should be a thread somewhere that lists 'em all, or at least as many of 'em as we could come up with.A couple of folks were kind enough to point out that there are hidden shmups as well and that was very much appreciated. Clearly it's something I'd be interested in, so it started another conversation that was beneficial. I've just gotten more information from you and I do appreciate it. All I'm trying to do here is learn.
Quote from: guest on December 02, 2013, 04:16:02 PMThis thread isn't about shelf sitters. It's about "teh rarez" I guess. Not my intent, but that's how it's gone. And from where I'm sitting, I'm not arguing "my joke". As I said, as far as I know Lochlan and I have reached a level of agreement, even if it is a disagreement. He was the only person that said anything about hoarding (leading to the joke). I replied, we batted it back and forth, and left it in a somewhat peaceful state.Quote from: 98pacecar on December 02, 2013, 01:55:03 PMThat is my only real mistake here. Of course, the irony of the others here (yourself included) doing the exact same thing is not lost on me.And yet I've made no comment one way or the other about whether or not you should buy "shelf sitters". I've got quite a few myself (one trip through Magical Dinosaur Tour was more than enough), so I'm obviously not entirely against it, but don't let that stop you from continuing to argue your 'joke'.
PS - If you really want to lock this thread, do it.
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Help list the hard to find PCE SHMUPS
Quote from: pixeljunkie on December 02, 2013, 02:27:08 PMi vote for locking this stinkerUnfortunately, I agree.
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Help list the hard to find PCE SHMUPS
Quote from: guest on December 02, 2013, 01:12:00 PMLike I said, NONE of the 110 shewties are particularly hard to find. The 'special' HuCARDs and Darius Alpha have the smallest print runs, yet they're all available; the Seiya Monogatari mook (Tats's #111) is probably the hardest to find, but even it shows up multiple times in the course of a year on eBay and yahoo japan.And see, there is good information that is not on the lists that show up when you Google. In fact, until Tat mentioned that title I would have not known it fit my criteria. If I hadn't asked, would I have eventually known? Maybe. Being that it fits the criteria of why I started this thread, it's a huge help to me.
If money IS a factor, then they're a bit harder to find at a fair price. The rarest/priciest titles are almost always readily available but often only at inflated BINs that sit unsold for weeks on end.
Quote from: guest on December 02, 2013, 01:12:00 PMThe personal insults came out after Vestcunt took a swing at me. I'd say my conversing with Lochlan stayed more above the belt and didn't devolve into personal attacks and ended with at least me understanding and appreciating his point of view. He may not agree with me on that, but that's for him to decide. I'm more than willing to apologize to Vestcunt for my attack if he is willing to do the same. But jumping someone for asking a question you don't like is not a good way to be and I won't just sit there and take it.Quote from: 98pacecar on December 02, 2013, 12:33:53 PMMy response on the hoarder comment was a joke. Trust me, if I was offended by it, that would be made clear.But of course. I always go back and forth for a couple pages to argue a 'joke', bringing out the personal insults for more lulz.
Quote from: guest on December 02, 2013, 01:12:00 PMAnd that's a fair stance. It's wrong as pointed out above. The lists on the net vary in quality and none of them give me the information I was looking for. From what I can tell, even the list stickied in this very forum is missing at least one title past the one Tat gave me. Again, why not ask and find out for sure?Quote from: 98pacecar on December 02, 2013, 12:33:53 PMThough I will disagree that Vestcunt hit the nail on the head, that was nothing more than a rant from a simple mind based on not even enough information to call it limited. You yourself say I "seemingly know jack shit about the PCE". How do you or he know that? Maybe I do, maybe I don't.I base it on you asking for a list of hard to find shewties, which anyone with a deep knowledge of the system (or the ability to use Google) would be able to figure out on their own.
Quote from: guest on December 02, 2013, 01:12:00 PMThat is my only real mistake here. Of course, the irony of the others here (yourself included) doing the exact same thing is not lost on me.Quote from: 98pacecar on December 02, 2013, 12:33:53 PMI've given my reasons for purchasing and enjoying shmups. I've made it clear that I play what I buy, but I'm also realistic about how I do it. If that makes me a bad person, well, that's fine. Plenty of people like me and plenty of people hate me. Life goes on and I'll continue enjoying games regardless of what others think I should be doing.And the smart man would leave it at that, instead of trying to convince others that only his opinion is correct.
(edit: forgot to add a smiley so it's clear I'm joking)
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Help list the hard to find PCE SHMUPS
Quote from: guest on December 02, 2013, 12:04:20 PMIf price isn't a concern, none of 'em are particularly hard to find. Have you heard of eBay? Every title mentioned thus far is available, even Darius Alpha.Ah, but see, you just confirmed the very reason I started this thread. Yes, Darius Alpha is legitimately rare and very expensive, but it's steady availability on ebay keeps it from being hard to get. I am interested in knowing which titles rarely come available, a big difference. Money isn't a factor in that, some will be expensive and some will be cheap. I suppose if one is willing to just throw stupid cash at people until someone sells, everything is always available, but that's not how I operate.
Quote from: guest on December 02, 2013, 12:04:20 PMAs for the rest of this fool's argument: grow up, 98, or at least grow a thicker skin. Being called a hoarder is not highly offensive, especially not after you said yourself that you're a bit OCD about collecting. Vestcunt hit the nail on the head, as you seemingly know jack shit about the PCE or any of the games yet gotta get 'em all, but who cares? Be proud of your nonsensical reasons to want something (It's rarez? BIN!!!), and ignore those of us that buy games for crazy reasons like thinking they look fun.My response on the hoarder comment was a joke. Trust me, if I was offended by it, that would be made clear. Though I will disagree that Vestcunt hit the nail on the head, that was nothing more than a rant from a simple mind based on not even enough information to call it limited. You yourself say I "seemingly know jack shit about the PCE". How do you or he know that? Maybe I do, maybe I don't. But asking questions of those that are considered "in the know" is never a bad thing, or at least it shouldn't be.
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Help list the hard to find PCE SHMUPS
Quote from: pixeljunkie on December 02, 2013, 11:08:40 AMI think this whole thing 98, is that you came in fresh with "Tell me the rarez omg expensive titles to get" which will always have a negative connotation. I'm sure you aren't much different than most of us in terms of collecting PCE goodies, it's really a matter of tact or semantics I think. I also think there was a flaw in your question, as "HTF" is defined by you as you look for a game you want to play based on screens/revies/videos. Rather than looking for a game purely based on its rarity or value.Thank you for the balanced assessment of my original post. My goal was actually to try and take the cost factor out of it based on past experience of expensive games not always being rare. In reading it again, I can see that I may have left that a bit open to interpretation. Not sure that merits the attacks, but eh, it happens and it's not worth worrying about. I was fortunate to get some very helpful answers, so it's all good!
Welcome to the club and good luck on your search, the PCE is an amazing shmup console. The best, in my opinion.
The love for this console you'll find here is also the same passion you've seen on this thread. I don't think anyone is nuts or booger eaters from what I can tell. There's just that moment when you wince at reading someone new looking to get "teh rarez" and want to chime in with a tale of caution in terms of the culture here.
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Help list the hard to find PCE SHMUPS
Quote from: guest on December 02, 2013, 04:14:48 AMProve it big man.Quote from: 98pacecar on December 01, 2013, 10:04:55 PMBoy are you barking up the wrong tree.Quote from: "vestcunt" on October 02, 2013, 10:20:10 PMIt makes me sad to see other people have things I want, but I won't work hard enough in my life to earn what I want so I just get mad about it and vent at other people that can have it. I also feel that the main reason I don't have the games I want is that the resellers insist on getting a fair market price on items that I feel I should be able to buy for next to nothing. I mean, everybody else pays the prices that games are worth or just waits until a deal that is to their liking comes along, but not me! I'm special! I'll just keep ranting about the resellers and continue to not have the things I want in life instead of trying to increase my income so that I can just buy them.
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Help list the hard to find PCE SHMUPS
Quote from: Lochlan on December 01, 2013, 10:40:37 PMWell when you said you buy games and they end up being shelf filler, and you implied that you knew with certain games that would end up being the case (such as Deep Blue), that lead me to believe that you buy games with the knowledge that they will be shelf filler. And this is in your thread about acquiring a checklist of games. I guess you can deflect my arguments with semantic acrobatics, but I think we both know what is going on here. Anyway, I already said what I wanted to say, I don't have anything to add to this topic.I think we had a misunderstanding. My intent is never to buy something specifically as shelf filler. However, it does happen as there's just x amount of time to play and I'm constantly adding new titles. It's a byproduct of buying new games without selling the old ones. I do know people that buy stuff they have no intention of ever playing, but I'm not like that. Especially with shmups, both good and bad. Given limited time I have found them to be a great way to have something I can play for less than an hour and feel like I accomplished something. If I were buying RPGs, you'd have every right to criticize as I know upfront I won't be playing them. My reason for starting this thread was purely to figure out what is hard to get. You can't really rely on pricing being an indicator of rarity and for some reason, the PCE has only been on my radar for the past few months. I'm just trying to learn, but that has turned out to be a bit more trying than it should have been.
Again, my beef isn't with you per se, it's more an overall disappointment with the direction this hobby has taken for most people who have an interest in it. And I'm not perfect, I'm guilty of some of these obsessive/hoarding tendencies as well. I have an insane backlog of games myself. But I think that setting out to do what you've described in this thread shows a love for acquisition over a love for games. And when you start tossing around terms like "shelf filler" I just had to say something, it bothered me. Whether or not you agree is up to you. I think Vestcunt's reply nailed it, I couldn't have put it better.
Good luck buying all the games, I genuinely hope that you find it to be a fulfilling pursuit.
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Help list the hard to find PCE SHMUPS
Quote from: Lochlan on December 01, 2013, 10:14:17 PMSo you can't point it out? Please enlighten me, I'd love to see it! Oh wait, let me guess... My response to vestcunt hit a little too close to home for you and you don't have the anything intelligent to keep your little rant going?Quote from: PunkCryborg on December 01, 2013, 10:03:04 PMwhy exactly did you buy magical dinosaur tour then?It came in a lot with other games.Quote from: 98pacecar on December 01, 2013, 10:08:36 PMWhere did I say I buy games to be shelf filler? I did say that by default, some will end up that way. But nowhere did I say I buy games with the intent for them to be shelf filler.Lol!
Quote from: 98pacecar on November 30, 2013, 04:16:46 PMSo again I ask, where do I say I buy games with the intent to be shelf filler?Quote from: pixeljunkie on November 30, 2013, 03:44:31 PMUgh. I hope you are gonna play them as well? So sick of all the "collectors" into games these days. My "ugh" isn't directed at you personally. Rather, it made me think about the state of the "scene". I just hope you are playing the games and not just sitting them on a shelf or in a case somewhere to rot. Could I use more "quotes"?I'm largely a player, but at a certain point there are titles that more or less end up as shelf filler. I have a bit of OCD that compels me to collect all of them even if they are known to be terrible. I will try all of them at least a couple of times, but out of 110 titles I imagine I'll end up sticking to the top xx titles when I want my fix. Not to say I never go back and try others, but given a relatively small amount of time each week to game, some will just not get played as much as others.
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Help list the hard to find PCE SHMUPS
Quote from: Lochlan on December 01, 2013, 09:43:16 PMSure. And that's not what I said. It sounds like you have a pretty fundamental misunderstanding of what I wrote.I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what I wrote. Where did I say I buy games to be shelf filler? I did say that by default, some will end up that way. But nowhere did I say I buy games with the intent for them to be shelf filler. I'm just willing to admit that with so many games to choose from, some will get played less than others and some will likely just be played once or twice. If I'm not negatively affecting my family (I'm not) and I'm not negatively affecting you (still would like to hear how that's possible), what does it matter what I do with my games?
Purchasing a game with the knowledge that you don't have the time or inclination to play it is hoarding, I don't see how that's a particularly controversial viewpoint. I mean, the OP used the phrase "shelf filler" for Pete's sake, lol. We can debate the ethics of such an approach until the cows come home--although I've already said how I feel here, there's no reason for me to go on with that debate. I find playing the checklist game distasteful, you may not. Whatever.
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Help list the hard to find PCE SHMUPS
Quote from: vestcunt on December 01, 2013, 08:09:09 PMWow kid, you need some help. But I will say it's good to see that you can admit your problems. That's the first step in getting the help you need. Best of luck with it! Maybe there's a pill for what you have?Quote from: vestcunt on October 02, 2013, 10:20:10 PMOh noes guys! Someone new here likeses our precious! Don't worry though, I'm going to publicly shame him by reposting something I keep stored away for occasions just like this. I'm not clever enough to write something new every time, so I just change a few bits around and make it look like it's a new post.
In reality, all I have done is admit that his goal of collecting all of the SHMUPS is one I secretly have, but deep down know I won't be able to achieve any time soon and certainly not as quick as this new guy seems to be wanting to do.
It makes me sad to see other people have things I want, but I won't work hard enough in my life to earn what I want so I just get mad about it and vent at other people that can have it. I also feel that the main reason I don't have the games I want is that the resellers insist on getting a fair market price on items that I feel I should be able to buy for next to nothing. I mean, everybody else pays the prices that games are worth or just waits until a deal that is to their liking comes along, but not me! I'm special! I'll just keep ranting about the resellers and continue to not have the things I want in life instead of trying to increase my income so that I can just buy them. It just seems so much easier that way and I know I'm entitled to it!
But I'm sure my public shaming will make him go away so only the true fans can worship at the altar of the PC Engine. I'll be sure to randomly pick apart his thread and make wild accusations and do everything I can to misrepresent what he said. I know that makes me seem more clever than I really am, hehe!
Quote from: esteban on December 01, 2013, 06:51:15 PM98pacecar, don't worryAh, it never takes long to drag out the loonies on a forum, both good and bad. I'd be disappointed if there weren't a few nuts around to keep it interesting. I'm not sure how folks can have games without, by default, having a collection. But I appreciate the heads up and I'll try to keep it to a minimum here. I've always considered myself a player first, but a collector as well. No sense having games if you don't play them!
There are all different folks here. Some of us are more tolerant than others. Some of us rant occasionally (Lochlan) whilst others are set to perma-diatribe (a wonderful misfit named Zeta who, sadly, hasn't posted in a long time).
Collecting for the sake of collecting is not something we talk about "too" much here because many folks are actively playing games.
Since you are the "new" soul who braved to join us, you may not know that many folks here have a distaste for collecting stuff (be they cereal boxes, One Direction on vinyl, or HuCARDS).
Personally, I never dismiss a game until I've tried it myself and given it an honest chance to speak to me.
I am a game whisperer.
I find pleasure in finding something to appreciate in most games....no matter how brief those moments may be.
Therefore, I have many games that I only occasionally go back to these days.
But they all occupy a special place in my engorged, possibly arrhythmic, heart.
They are my children—I couldn't bear to throw any of them away.
Even the horrid child who is insufferable and brings nothing but pain deserves a home: be it on the shelf or in my heart.
BLESSED CHILDREN, I WILL NEVER FORSAKE YOU.
(In other words, welcome, comrade! You have survived the asylum).
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Help list the hard to find PCE SHMUPS
Quote from: Lochlan on December 01, 2013, 04:54:06 PMI don't understand the need to hoard games you say you have neither the time nor desire to play. Truthfully my purchasing habits are probably not terribly different from yours and I work about 50 hours a week, so I get where you're coming from when you say you'd rather spend what time you have playing good games. That all makes sense.Wow, that escalated quickly. I have to admit, I've never been called a hoarder before and I'm not real sure how to respond to it. I guess I should be offended and see a doctor for my "disease" before it gets any worse! However, I do take offense to the accusation that I have neither the time NOR DESIRE to play many of the games I buy. Nowhere did I say that I buy games just to have them and that is very far from the truth. I play everything that enters my collection as I get it and usually end up going back at some point, though that's not an absolute. I mean, really, how many times does someone need to play Pepsiman or Superman N64 to know how bad they are?
The part I don't get is where you buy Deep Blue and let it rot on a shelf. That's hoarding, and it is a disease that has turned this hobby into a checklist game for old men with too much money instead of a way to spend leisure time. But it is your money and I can't stop you. Actually I don't care that you do this as an individual, but this paradigm of how to engage old game collections has become the standard and it is upsetting for those of us who just want to play. When game collecting becomes about acquisition rather than playing, something is terribly wrong.
At least you aren't one of those sealed games people, so good on you for that much I guess.
Quote from: PunkCryborg on December 01, 2013, 05:20:07 PMWell you can't play all your games all the time, that's totally understandable. I too would love to own every pce shooter (or every pce game) and yeah there are lots of games that once you play through there's really not much desire to go back too. Heavy Unit, Legion, come on who really plays those games more than once. I don't think I'm denying anyone the chance to play those games as they are readily available online for sale to anyone who wants to get them.Ah and here is a lot of wisdom. A person can only really play 1 game at a time, so why bother owning more than 1? Now I think everybody will agree that this is a ridiculous argument and nobody is going to buy a single game, play it, and sell it before buying another one. But as Punkic says, it's not like I'm keeping these games from anybody else. I'm buying a single copy out of, in most cases, tens of thousands to play and collect. If I were one of the guys buying up every copy of some particular game, you'd have a completely legit reason to be upset. But I'm not and I have less than zero interest in doing so.
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Help list the hard to find PCE SHMUPS
Quote from: Lochlan on December 01, 2013, 03:20:53 PMI understand it's not a popular thing, but it's the reality of my available time to game anymore. With a 40+ hour a week job and a family to take care of, my time left for gaming is pretty limited compared to what it used to be. Have to take care of the important stuff before I worry about leisure time.Quote from: 98pacecar on November 30, 2013, 04:16:46 PMat a certain point there are titles that more or less end up as shelf filler
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Help list the hard to find PCE SHMUPS
Quote from: guest on November 30, 2013, 12:22:42 PMHere you go. 100% legit:Thanks for the heads up! I prefer to have spine and reg card on the nicer stuff when possible, so I may hold out for a more complete copy. But good to know they are out there and still available.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GINGA-FUKEI-DENSETSU-SAPPHIRE-Galaxy-Policewoman-PC-Engine-ACD-JAPAN-Game-bbc-pe-/310737834941?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item48596b13bd
Quote from: pixeljunkie on November 30, 2013, 03:44:31 PMUgh. I hope you are gonna play them as well? So sick of all the "collectors" into games these days. My "ugh" isn't directed at you personally. Rather, it made me think about the state of the "scene". I just hope you are playing the games and not just sitting them on a shelf or in a case somewhere to rot. Could I use more "quotes"?I'm largely a player, but at a certain point there are titles that more or less end up as shelf filler. I have a bit of OCD that compels me to collect all of them even if they are known to be terrible. I will try all of them at least a couple of times, but out of 110 titles I imagine I'll end up sticking to the top xx titles when I want my fix. Not to say I never go back and try others, but given a relatively small amount of time each week to game, some will just not get played as much as others.
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Help list the hard to find PCE SHMUPS
Quote from: Tatsujin on November 29, 2013, 08:19:27 PMlol, my 111th shewty in my count is in fact Cychorider on the seiya monogatari taikenban disc ;)Aha!! Yours was the sig I saw with 111! Ok, I think now I know what I'm up against.
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Help list the hard to find PCE SHMUPS
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Help list the hard to find PCE SHMUPS
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Help list the hard to find PCE SHMUPS
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Help list the hard to find PCE SHMUPS
