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SCART to Component converter

Started by termis, 11/08/2012, 08:03 AM

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termis

Anyone ever use such a setup?  I figure that'll be easiest way RGB out onto a non-RGB TV for a number of 16-bit/32-bit era consoles.

Basically, I see the chain as:
Console -> Scart Cable -> Pass through to get out RCA audio -> Scart to Component video converter -> component cable -> TV

Now, I intend to hook up systems such as the Saturn, Playstation, Dreamcast, i.e. through this setup to a standard-def CRT.   Would something cheap like suffice?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hama-Scart-to-RGB-Component-Adaptor-IN-OUT-Converter-/200827344423?pt=UK_Computing_Sound_Vision_Video_Cables_Adapters&hash=item2ec23e1627

Or, do I need something like this (with a scaler) even if I don't intend to hook these systems up to an HDTV?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-SCART-RGB-to-YUV-Component-Video-Converter-Scaler-/220698772855?pt=US_Audio_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3362ac0577

SuperDeadite

On an SDTV, those RGB->Component convertors work quite well.  On an HDTV, a proper scaler will blow it away.  But on SDTV, it will look better then S-Video for sure.

Only issue is that a lot of CRTs can't recognize 240p via component.  They see it as 480i, and will deinterlace the progressive signal giving you a weird "stutter effect" when things stop moving.  All HDCRTs I've ever seen have this issue.  SDCRTs with component inputs will vary though.  So research what kinda of set you will end up with before going this route.
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Duo_R

Never tried you referenced. I have had good experience with Atlona RGB to YUV converters on eBay. Do some searches here been discussed a bit. I had some older posts in regards to it. I modded my converter to output audio so no pass through cable needed.

Also the CRTs that I have tried work great. I even have a new LCD set by Samsung that looks great with the converter.
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Ji-L87

I use one of those scart to component converters, feeding the signal into my scaler - results are quite nice. I had to open that sucker up first though and use a screwdriver to adjust the potentiometers controlling the colors. But now it looks swell.
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CrackTiger

That RGB to component converter looks like the one I bought off ebay. It doesn't work with modded consoles and has issues with Sega and Neo Geo systems (like part of the image flipping around).
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Frank_fjs

I've got the original CSY-2100 encoder, it works great on all of my CRT TV's and my plasma. It works perfectly for my Master System, Mega Drive, 32X, Saturn, SNES, AES etc but it looks horrible with my RGB modded Duo-R. That's probably more to do with the crap job that was done with the RGB amp though and not a fault of the encoder.

Duo_R

must be the amp because mine looks great on my Duo-R.

Quote from: Frank_fjs on 11/08/2012, 10:47 PMI've got the original CSY-2100 encoder, it works great on all of my CRT TV's and my plasma. It works perfectly for my Master System, Mega Drive, 32X, Saturn, SNES, AES etc but it looks horrible with my RGB modded Duo-R. That's probably more to do with the crap job that was done with the RGB amp though and not a fault of the encoder.
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termis

Quote from: Duo_R on 11/08/2012, 09:31 AMNever tried you referenced. I have had good experience with Atlona RGB to YUV converters on eBay. Do some searches here been discussed a bit. I had some older posts in regards to it. I modded my converter to output audio so no pass through cable needed.

Also the CRTs that I have tried work great. I even have a new LCD set by Samsung that looks great with the converter.
Yeah,  I didn't understand why none of those converters didn't have an audio pass through.  It would seem obvious to put one in.

Any instructions for a mod job like that floating around anywhere?

Frank_fjs

wayback.assemblergames.com/?My-Scart-to-component-audio-mod-finished

Personally I'd try to mount some RCA jacks rather than having wires dangling out of the thing.

termis

Nice.  Just soldering on wires to audio pins and RCA jacks - seems pretty staightforward.

Again, can't see why this wasn't done staight out of factory, but anyway...

Duo_R

Easiest thing is to install a minjack 3.5 plug on the converter box. I have posted instructions before just need to find them.
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GohanX

Hey, that looks familiar!

Frank: Is your RGB modded unit a Doujindance by chance? Mine looks pretty good, but washed out. I RGB modded a Turbo CD dock myself and it looks much better. It has to be the amp in my case, but I haven't bothered to redo the Duo yet.

PikachuWarrior

I made some Youtube videos showing the device itself and a few console comparisons with composite/component:

Device:
Sega Saturn:
JVC X'Eye:
IMG

Duo_R

I got a doujindance and it works great with the box, an addition with a RGB amp that I personally built. For the bad unit try to get a snapshot of the amp board.

And yah I assume that was one of your posts? You and I have been discussing this for a while, we need to sticky one of these topics because it keeps coming up in seperate posts.

Quote from: JKM on 11/09/2012, 01:27 PMHey, that looks familiar!

Frank: Is your RGB modded unit a Doujindance by chance? Mine looks pretty good, but washed out. I RGB modded a Turbo CD dock myself and it looks much better. It has to be the amp in my case, but I haven't bothered to redo the Duo yet.
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Duo_R

Anyways here is how I reccomend modding, use this diagram (not mine):

IMG

Install a minijack connector:

IMG

Note - the connector is where it says "power"

and you just plug this into the box and the other end into your TV or stereo

IMG

Overall the best solution for getting the audio in my opinion.

Quote from: Frank_fjs on 11/09/2012, 07:33 AMwayback.assemblergames.com/?My-Scart-to-component-audio-mod-finished

Personally I'd try to mount some RCA jacks rather than having wires dangling out of the thing.
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