Getting real

[2X4]

Hi, my name is 2X4, and I don't own a Nintendo.

rest of forum:  Hi 2x4

I know I'm the only fool on this thread who doesn't own an orignal NES, but I want to change that.  I figured you guys could tell me the best place to get one, after getting your shots in.  Can ya help a brother out?

[guyjin]

Find a used game store in your area. find out how much a NES costs. if they don't carry the NES, it's not a real used games store.

Compare that with a NEX (NES clone); decide wether the price difference is worth it to deal with blinking.

[Kitsunexus]

Well I own a NES, but, as with most, the 40-pin connector is busted, meaning that instead of a NES, I own a globe stand.

One day I'll buy a gold-plated connector, one day.

[nat]

Get a NEX. They are the greatest. Two slots: one for Famicom carts and one for NES carts. Plus you can use any NES-compatible controller. Plus they have wireless capability BUILT IN. Plus they never blink. There are like 3 or 4 games that won't work with it, but when you're talking about an overall library of thousands of games, what's 3 or 4? Plus, the power supply is the size of my thumb.

The one downfall, if it can be considered as such, is that certain colors in the pallete are slightly different shades than the original NES. Not all colors mind you, but a few. If your TV is like mine it will have a number of configurable presets for different contrast/color set-ups. I adjusted one of the presets (by adjusting Hue/Tint and all that) so that the NEX, when played with that preset, looks the same on screen as my real NES. You would never know the difference! Even without that ability, the color thing is pretty minor. A casual gamer would never even notice.

[guyjin]

There are like 3 or 4 games that won't work with it, but when you're talking about an overall library of thousands of games, what's 3 or 4?

Well, one of those 3 or 4 is Castlevania 3, which a lot of people think is one of the best NES games.

EDIT:
Other games you might, but aren't likely to, care about that don't work:
Bandit kings of ancient china
Gemfire
nobunaga's ambition 2
Rad Racer 2
Romance of the 3 kingdoms 2
Uncharted waters
WWF king of the ring
WWF Wrestlemania challenge

(notice that a lot of these are Koei games. What the hell were they doing that was so weird?)
the rest are pirate, crap, or pirate crap. But I repeat myself.

[nat]

True, but that's the only worthwhile game that won't work. Get Castlevania I and II instead!

[Turbo D]

I own the version 2 nes with the bitchin' dogbone controller 

[nat]

Aww, shucks. I was just about to buy a copy of WWF King of the Ring.     

[guyjin]

Yeah, The toploader is cool, but they're damn expensive and you have to mod them to get A/V.

Not that the NEX is without hardware problems; the thing is very light compared to the cartridge, and has a vice grip; I basically have to hold the console with one hand and the cart with the other to get the cart out.

[CrackTiger]

Hi, my name is 2X4, and I don't own a Nintendo.

rest of forum:  Hi 2x4

I know I'm the only fool on this thread who doesn't own an orignal NES, but I want to change that.  I figured you guys could tell me the best place to get one, after getting your shots in.  Can ya help a brother out? 

Most second hand stores and flea markets around here have them for around $5.

I'd buy a tested complete set from eBay, probably boxed, if I was looking to get my first one.

[2X4]

Thanks for the ideas.  I am looking for a genuine NES, and there aren't any used game shops around here, so I am looking for an online source.  Of course ebay comes to mind, I thought maybe one of you might know an online store that would be better . . .?

[guyjin]

where is 'around here' for you, anyway? that might help.

[2X4]

sorry, central Nebraska.  Midwest SYYYYDE!

[Keranu]

Check out your local thrift stores, I've found some there for like $1-3. Having a blinking connector is actually kind of fun because you have to master the art of loading NES games by very specific means of blowing on the cartridge and adjusting it inside the NES just right. You can also buy a new connector for it, but when I tried that it didn't seem to help much.

[Turbo D]

the toaster was just a poor design. I know it looks bad-ass, but its not too reliable. The toploader has less problems, but isn't as cool.

[guyjin]

you could try one of the gamers in lincoln.

http://www.gogamers.com/gogamerscom/index.php?id=stores

the quoted price for a NES is 34.99, 49.99 with a new connector. they don't seem to have toploaders.

[nat]

Check out your local thrift stores, I've found some there for like $1-3. Having a blinking connector is actually kind of fun because you have to master the art of loading NES games by very specific means of blowing on the cartridge and adjusting it inside the NES just right.

That's good and all, but the fun ends quickly when you nudge the controller cable just a little too hard, moving the NES and causing your game screen to start looking like a strobe light.

Truthfully, the originally NES is more of a novelty item and shouldn't be used for regular gameplay when there are other more reliable alternatives. That said, I do own one, but I rarely us it. I use the NEX instead.

[Keranu]

Check out your local thrift stores, I've found some there for like $1-3. Having a blinking connector is actually kind of fun because you have to master the art of loading NES games by very specific means of blowing on the cartridge and adjusting it inside the NES just right.

That's good and all, but the fun ends quickly when you nudge the controller cable just a little too hard, moving the NES and causing your game screen to start looking like a strobe light.

Truthfully, the originally NES is more of a novelty item and shouldn't be used for regular gameplay when there are other more reliable alternatives. That said, I do own one, but I rarely us it. I use the NEX instead.

Sometimes NES' can be picky like that, but funny enough when I play World Class Track Meet on the power pad, the NES won't even glitch! Sometimes it can get pissy by tapping it, but it has no problem with two people pounding the floor with their feet.

[Kitsunexus]

Get a NEX.

No.

[Turbo D]

If I was going to get one of those funky clones, I would try the fc twin. It seems pretty cool, haha. Has anyone had any experience with them? Oh, one more thing; Has anyone tried plugging a disk system into the nex???

[PCEngineHell]

Alot of people knock the first units,the front loaders,but even without changing out the 72 pin connector I have no problems with the decks. I have 4 decks. Only 1 has a new pin set,which was already in it before I got it.

The other 3 are originals. Basically if you want to insure trouble free use keep all the carts pins really clean,and take apart the Nes and remove the pin section and wash it out good with hot steamy dish washer,and dry out well right after doing so.

While its removed take some time to use a cart you don't like,and insert it into the pin bridge back and forth with alcohol applied to help loosen any extra grime that the washer didn't get. Clean the Nes cart pins and repeat. Put it all back together and you should have little if any problems from then on.

Also,disabling the 10Nes chip will get rid of the blinking problem. After that the worst you should get is the standard blank grey screen from a dirty cart or  a poorly made one that doesn't line up just right,but thats rare from a top clean and cared for condition collection.

[Kitsunexus]

Also,disabling the 10Nes chip will get rid of the blinking problem. After that the worst you should get is the standard blank grey screen from a dirty cart or  a poorly made one that doesn't line up just right,but thats rare from a top clean and cared for condition collection.

Interesting...so by playing some old Tengen games you (for the moment) fix your NES? Cool.   

[Turbo D]

I think he means cutting it from the pcb 

[PCEngineHell]

I think he means cutting it from the pcb 

If I remember right its the 4th pin,you just cut it. I disabled it on all my decks.

[PCEngineHell]

http://www.raphnet.net/electronique/nes_mod/nes_mod_en.php

Its found on this page incase anyone needs a guide with pics.

[nat]

Get a NEX.

No.

That article is a load of shit-- I've read it before. I'm not even sure if that was supposed to be serious. Either they made half that shit up, or they received a prototype console.

[Turbo D]

Thanks for the cool link Micheal 

[Kitsunexus]

That article is a load of shit-- I've read it before. I'm not even sure if that was supposed to be serious. Either they made half that shit up, or they received a prototype console.

That is serious, 100% fact, that guy doesn't lie like that. He was an early adopter, and maybe the later NEX consoles are better, but it's still an NOAC and I won't touch that over a real NES.

Also, I would never let someone else talk about you like that because you are my friend. Benj is also my friend. Don't talk about him like that. 

[nat]

Also, I would never let someone else talk about you like that because you are my friend. Benj is also my friend. Don't talk about him like that. 

Well, I don't know what to tell you. I own a NEX and 90% of what he said about it is either extremely exaggerated or simply not true. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the sound, for one thing. It plays every NES game I own, except for the unlicensed Tengen carts, and my NES collection isn't exactly small.

For example, he goes on about how bad the compatibility is. As already indicated earlier, they provide a game compatibility list on their website, and guyjin posted a list a few messages back. There's like 10 games out of thousands that it won't play. Big fucking whoop! If there were only 12 games available for the NES, that would be one thing. But there's not, there's thousands. And out of the 10 it won't play, the only game of consequence is Castlevania III. That's pretty damn good if you ask me. He claims the "colors on all games" seem "a little strange." He also says this is "huge bummer". If this is the biggest bummer he's got going on in his life, I'd love to hear his secret. Either way, again, not true-- there are like 2 colors in a handful of games that are slightly lighter or darker shades of what they are on an original NES. A casual gamer would never notice, and honestly you have to be in a pretty anal retentive mood to nitpick that. If it bothers you, you can do what I did and have special video setting preset on your TV that corrects for it. To be honest, the only reason I ever noticed was because I read that article before buying one and therefor was looking for the inconsistencies he mentioned.

I could go on and on, but most of the article is hogwash. It's too bad he's your friend, but the fact remains that most of what is written there is misinformation. It's not 100% fact, unfortunately, since my NEX doesn't have the issues his supposedly did. Maybe the early models were crappy or something, who knows.

About the only thing he hit on the head was the pack-in controllers it comes with sucking. But that's no big deal-- you can use any NES-compatible control device with it.

It's a killer console for what it is (a NOAC), but a genuine top-loading NES is probably the pinnacle of NES gaming (as long as you mod it for A/V out).

[WoodyXP]

All clones are rubbish, IMO.  But if you're gonna get one make sure it's a NEX.  It's
the least rubbish of them all.

[TR0N]

All clones are rubbish, IMO.  But if you're gonna get one make sure it's a NEX.  It's
the least rubbish of them all. 

Agreed it's only the clone i've herd that is near flawless.

Any other clone such as the ones by,Yobo can break down easily...such as the controller ports going bad.

Even with it's compatibility problem it seems like...messiah has it the best so far with it's nex.

Btw 2X4 i all most went with a nex for my famicom needs,but i went and got a famicom av any ways.

[Seldane]

Generation SUX... that's very true.

NES is the only way to go. Or better yet - Famicom. I can play games from all regions with my Famicom (with a 60-72 pin converter) and it works every time, even with dirty carts. Phuggin awesome. And 100% compatibility. And with a non-shitty name (Generation SUX? What kinda name is that?).

Self proclaimed saviours as that guy say, that's very true. I hate that company, I will be feasting on their corpses when they go bankrupt. I'd much rather get a chinese shit clone than that insanely overpriced garbage.

[Keranu]

Self proclaimed saviours as that guy say, that's very true. I hate that company, I will be feasting on their corpses when they go bankrupt. I'd much rather get a chinese shit clone than that insanely overpriced garbage.

I've actually talked to the company in person! They didn't like how I was tapping the buttons in Xevious instead of using the autofire buttons on their NEX controllers.

[PCEngineHell]

Prob afraid the buttons were gonna break.....Was it a demo unit?

[nat]

Yeah those pack-in controllers are poo.

[Keranu]

Prob afraid the buttons were gonna break.....Was it a demo unit?

Yep.