Castlevania Drakula X

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Green Beret

Hi guys,
I am new in the PC Engine World and I would like to buy some good games for the system. As I have learnt the last few days there is a Company in Germany publishing new PC Engine games. Pce Works.
These games are professional made bootlegs or collectibles. Whichever someone thinks about it. For someone it is a bootleg but someone else it may be an opportunity to buy a collectible. I prefer the original game.

How can someone distinguish the original Castlevania from the Pce works one? The latter doesn't say Pce Works on the box....
Maybe there are some other games out there too?

Thanks for your help

tbone3969

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If it comes with an energy drink it's fake.

And it clearly states "PCE Works" on the PCE Works disc. Clear giveaway.

Also, if Dracula is spelled with with a K instead of a C then it is probably fake.
"There's something out there in those trees and it ain't no man. We're all gonna die."

Green Beret

Quote from: tbone3969 on 07/06/2017, 11:31 AMIf it comes with an energy drink it's fake.

And it clearly states "PCE Works" on the PCE Works disc. Clear giveaway.

Also, if Dracula is spelled with with a K instead of a C then it is probably fake.
Thanks for your reply
On ebay they sell for about 100€
 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Akumajo-Dracula-X-Castlevania-New-Pc-Engine-Turbo-Duo-Super-CD-ROM-/182643049439?hash=item2a865fc3df:g:jTMAAOSw1~JZUkRp
Sellers do mention it is Pce works version. But What if they don't.
Is in all case "Pce works" written on the disk? Because if not, all used copies selling in Japan used could be opened boots.

tbone3969

Quote from: Green Beret on 07/06/2017, 12:09 PM
Quote from: tbone3969 on 07/06/2017, 11:31 AMIf it comes with an energy drink it's fake.

And it clearly states "PCE Works" on the PCE Works disc. Clear giveaway.

Also, if Dracula is spelled with with a K instead of a C then it is probably fake.
Thanks for your reply
On ebay they sell for about 100€
 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Akumajo-Dracula-X-Castlevania-New-Pc-Engine-Turbo-Duo-Super-CD-ROM-/182643049439?hash=item2a865fc3df:g:jTMAAOSw1~JZUkRp
Sellers do mention it is Pce works version. But What if they don't.
Is in all case "Pce works" written on the disk? Because if not, all used copies selling in Japan used could be opened boots.
Yes in all cases.

Now that does not mean there couldn't be other "non-PCE Works" fakes out there.  Basically you get what you pay for.  No way someone is selling a legit sealed Dracula X for $100.
"There's something out there in those trees and it ain't no man. We're all gonna die."

Green Beret

Quote from: tbone3969 on 07/06/2017, 12:17 PM
Quote from: Green Beret on 07/06/2017, 12:09 PM
Quote from: tbone3969 on 07/06/2017, 11:31 AMIf it comes with an energy drink it's fake.

And it clearly states "PCE Works" on the PCE Works disc. Clear giveaway.

Also, if Dracula is spelled with with a K instead of a C then it is probably fake.
Thanks for your reply
On ebay they sell for about 100€
 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Akumajo-Dracula-X-Castlevania-New-Pc-Engine-Turbo-Duo-Super-CD-ROM-/182643049439?hash=item2a865fc3df:g:jTMAAOSw1~JZUkRp
Sellers do mention it is Pce works version. But What if they don't.
Is in all case "Pce works" written on the disk? Because if not, all used copies selling in Japan used could be opened boots.
Yes in all cases.

Now that does not mean there couldn't be other "non-PCE Works" fakes out there.  Basically you get what you pay for.  No way someone is selling a legit sealed Dracula X for $100.
Yes, no way someone is selling a legit sealed Dracula X for $100. But it could be more appealing if he sell it for 300.

I won't be buying a new copy anyway but a used one. I have read somewhere about the thickness of the inner plastic of the CD and what it is written there. Boots are supposed to be much thicker in the inner sector.
What about registration cards, do they copy those too using the same paper and print?

NecroPhile

They can be plain bootlegs or collectible bootlegs.  No matter what you think of 'em, they'll ALWAYS be bootlegs.

The pce works logo is on the disc and the back of the manual: clicky.

If anyone pays 100 euros for that, they're retarded; not just because it's a bootleg but because you can buy it straight from Tobias for half.

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Green Beret

Quote from: guest on 07/06/2017, 12:26 PMThey can be plain bootlegs or collectible bootlegs.  No matter what you think of 'em, they'll ALWAYS be bootlegs.

The pce works logo is on the disc and the back of the manual: clicky.

If anyone pays 100 euros for that, they're retarded; not just because it's a bootleg but because you can buy it straight from Tobias for half.
Great  =D>
In my gaming collection ootlegs and conversions are not welcome.

I have seen videos on youtube with huCards boots from Pce Works but they look different. Are there any good HuCard boots arround that look very good and difficult to spot?
Thanks

bob

what do you think this is?  real or fake?

drac x

tbone3969

Quote from: gynt on 07/06/2017, 01:01 PMwhat do you think this is?  real or fake?

drac x
100% legit.  No doubt about it.
"There's something out there in those trees and it ain't no man. We're all gonna die."

Green Beret

Quote from: gynt on 07/06/2017, 01:01 PMwhat do you think this is?  real or fake?

drac x
I could say this is the Xbox super limited collector's edition  :mrgreen:

CrackTiger

Quote from: gynt on 07/06/2017, 01:01 PMwhat do you think this is?  real or fake?

drac x
The seller answered that for all of us.

"It's a must have for all Castlevania collectors".

You don't want to be disqualified as a Castlevania collector, do you?
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

NecroPhile

Quote from: Green Beret on 07/06/2017, 12:54 PMI have seen videos on youtube with huCards boots from Pce Works but they look different. Are there any good HuCard boots arround that look very good and difficult to spot?
The recent ones are quite different from real hueys, but there's some boots from back in the day that're close: clicky.  Most are obviously different, with odd shapes, humps, or xx-in-one names and art, but a few (like Altered Beast) are built like real hueys.  Even those are easy to spot as boots, though, with generic art (no company logos) and different back labels.



Quote from: gynt on 07/06/2017, 01:01 PMwhat do you think this is?  real or fake?

drac x
Ha!  Those are obvious boots, but he also made some with regular jewel cases that aren't so easy to spot.
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bob

Quote from: guest on 07/06/2017, 01:54 PM
Quote from: Green Beret on 07/06/2017, 12:54 PMI have seen videos on youtube with huCards boots from Pce Works but they look different. Are there any good HuCard boots arround that look very good and difficult to spot?
The recent ones are quite different from real hueys, but there's some boots from back in the day that're close: clicky.  Most are obviously different, with odd shapes, humps, or xx-in-one names and art, but a few (like Altered Beast) are built like real hueys.  Even those are easy to spot as boots, though, with generic art (no company logos) and different back labels.

Quote from: gynt on 07/06/2017, 01:01 PMwhat do you think this is?  real or fake?

drac x
Ha!  Those are obvious boots, but he also made some with regular jewel cases that aren't so easy to spot.
but the disc graphic is always a different color than the original, right?  i thought tobias art was always way different.

Green Beret

Thanks for the link. Fortunately those boots look shitty!
I bought a new PC Denjin from Japan because it was only a few bucks more than the used ones go and opened it. It is definitely original because the art on the Hucard is awesome. Manual is great too. I am very impressed from the graphics and the gameplay. Sprites are big and many of them at once. Great backgrounds and no slow down.

My first game and I am very happy with the PC Engine. I think what defines the PC Engine is many colors, big sprites and smooth gameplay.

NecroPhile

Quote from: gynt on 07/06/2017, 03:18 PMbut the disc graphic is always a different color than the original, right?  i thought tobias art was always way different. 
The red one is the translated version.  I've not seen 'em compared side by side, but the untranslated version (behind the red one in your ebay link) is close to the same coloring.
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Quote from: tbone3969 on 07/06/2017, 12:17 PMNo way someone is selling a legit sealed Dracula X for $100.
Are prices THAT HIGH? I'm so glad I'm done hunting for legitimate copies of games I want to play.
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tbone3969

Quote from: guest on 07/06/2017, 05:57 PM
Quote from: tbone3969 on 07/06/2017, 12:17 PMNo way someone is selling a legit sealed Dracula X for $100.
Are prices THAT HIGH? I'm so glad I'm done hunting for legitimate copies of games I want to play.
It seems it will cost you at least $150 for a CIB copy without the spine.  I don't even know what a sealed copy would go for.  I'm guessing at least $300.
"There's something out there in those trees and it ain't no man. We're all gonna die."

TelcoSurveyor

I'd like to get my hands on a legit copy at some point but the prices just keep going up..
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ClodBusted

Just buy Drac X on the Wii Virtual Console and be happy.

I am happy.

Green Beret

Thanks guys,
I bought a used copy with spine from Hit Japan. He has already shipped it.

Gredler

How much did they "hit" you up for to relinquish that to you?

tbone3969

"There's something out there in those trees and it ain't no man. We're all gonna die."

SignOfZeta

Quote from: guest on 07/06/2017, 05:57 PM
Quote from: tbone3969 on 07/06/2017, 12:17 PMNo way someone is selling a legit sealed Dracula X for $100.
Are prices THAT HIGH? I'm so glad I'm done hunting for legitimate copies of games I want to play.
Getting a sealed Drac X for less than $100 is...not easy, and really never has been. Even when it was new most importers were charging $90-100 for it. It's never been an expensive game but it has never been cheap either.
IMG

Green Beret

I offered 220$ to Hit Japan and he accepted. But I also made offers to him for 4 more games offering 20% -30% less than his "Buy it now" price and he accepted all of them. Had all games EMS shipped for 25$.

220$ is not cheap but it sounds reasonable considering I trust him for his description for the games. He also ships next day and makes very strong packing.

LowRes

Quote from: Green Beret on 07/08/2017, 03:32 AMI offered 220$ to Hit Japan and he accepted. But I also made offers to him for 4 more games offering 20% -30% less than his "Buy it now" price and he accepted all of them. Had all games EMS shipped for 25$.

220$ is not cheap but it sounds reasonable considering I trust him for his description for the games. He also ships next day and makes very strong packing.
I also bought one a few months ago from Hit-Japan with a $220 offer.  He was asking $300

It arrived absolutely mint.  I've always had good experiences with them.
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Green Beret

I still have to receive my copy. It has stuck in customs or lost. It has been almost one month since it left Japan by EMS  :-k
There were five more PC Engine games in that package

Green Beret

Received my Castlevania X today. Very happy with the condition. Tested my Duo R CD rom player for the first time and works flawlessly.

Introduction is in German? WTF? I was expecting to hear Japanese...
German reminds me of PC Engineworks. I hope this is not a bootleg made in factory from pro bootleggers

deubeul

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CrackTiger

Quote from: Green Beret on 08/02/2017, 05:53 AMReceived my Castlevania X today. Very happy with the condition. Tested my Duo R CD rom player for the first time and works flawlessly.

Introduction is in German? WTF? I was expecting to hear Japanese...
German reminds me of PC Engineworks. I hope this is not a bootleg made in factory from pro bootleggers
It's not German, it's Germongo.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

Green Beret

Thanks guys. I didn't expect such an introduction :mrgreen:

LostFlunky

Quote from: Green Beret on 08/02/2017, 05:53 AMReceived my Castlevania X today. Very happy with the condition. Tested my Duo R CD rom player for the first time and works flawlessly.

Introduction is in German? WTF? I was expecting to hear Japanese...
German reminds me of PC Engineworks. I hope this is not a bootleg made in factory from pro bootleggers
Take a look at the inner ring of your disc - it should look like this if it original. 

IMG

o.pwuaioc

Quote from: LowRes on 07/31/2017, 12:35 PMI also bought one a few months ago from Hit-Japan with a $220 offer.  He was asking $300

It arrived absolutely mint.  I've always had good experiences with them.
Hit-Japan is one of those companies that will block you if they ever fuck up your order. It's some real shit. That said, they have good prices, so...

Green Beret

Quote from: Lost Monkey on 08/02/2017, 08:48 AM
Quote from: Green Beret on 08/02/2017, 05:53 AMReceived my Castlevania X today. Very happy with the condition. Tested my Duo R CD rom player for the first time and works flawlessly.

Introduction is in German? WTF? I was expecting to hear Japanese...
German reminds me of PC Engineworks. I hope this is not a bootleg made in factory from pro bootleggers
Take a look at the inner ring of your disc - it should look like this if it original. 

IMG
Thanks, I will take look tonight when home

Quote from: guest on 08/02/2017, 09:38 AM
Quote from: LowRes on 07/31/2017, 12:35 PMI also bought one a few months ago from Hit-Japan with a $220 offer.  He was asking $300

It arrived absolutely mint.  I've always had good experiences with them.
Hit-Japan is one of those companies that will block you if they ever fuck up your order. It's some real shit. That said, they have good prices, so...
I am very careful with my communication with them. They do have good prices, ship next day and pack extremely well.

Green Beret

This is the same what is written on my CD. Hit Japan is selling original stuff. I had bought an original Metal Slug 2 for the NEO GEO AES from them in the past. I have sold it too though...

turboswimbz

Quote from: guest on 08/02/2017, 09:38 AM
Quote from: LowRes on 07/31/2017, 12:35 PMI also bought one a few months ago from Hit-Japan with a $220 offer.  He was asking $300

It arrived absolutely mint.  I've always had good experiences with them.
Hit-Japan is one of those companies that will block you if they ever fuck up your order. It's some real shit. That said, they have good prices, so...
For what it's worth:  I've had minor issues with them. they always fix it and then I just ask for an unban after a month or so when I wanted something else.  (granted all of my issues generally involved items less than $5) they always send a sorry stating that they have had issues with scammers.  as long as your nice in the communications I never had had too much of an issue.
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