Ys VIII Lacrimosa of Dana PS4 & Vita

[Johnpv]

NISA sent out an email the other day saying they would start processing orders on the 29th, anyone get their order started processing yet?

[Gypsy]

Release date: Tuesday, September 12, 2017

So um, no, I haven't played it yet. Lols.

[xcrement5x]

Has anyone played this yet? Videos of the graphics make me sulk, but I am curious to hear people's opinions

Not sure how much you trust this guys reviews but he already has a copy I guess:

[nectarsis]

Release date: Tuesday, September 12, 2017

So um, no, I haven't played it yet. Lols.

Also demo is out ;)

[Gypsy]

Hoping to be done with Yakuza Kiwami by the time it does arrive.

[Johnpv]

Has anyone played this yet? Videos of the graphics make me sulk, but I am curious to hear people's opinions

Not sure how much you trust this guys reviews but he already has a copy I guess:

I really need to become a youtuber just to get access to stuff earlier.  I don't even want it free, I just want it early lol.  There's a bunch of UK youtubers, and sites that have already gotten the SNES Classic, shit isn't out for a month and they already have it.

[Gredler]

Release date: Tuesday, September 12, 2017

So um, no, I haven't played it yet. Lols.

I saw some reviews and videos and wondered what people thought - I assumed some imported or perhaps had early access.

I wonder if they have an in house engine or if it's a licensed engine - and if they hire Jr artists or they are top heavy with vets who transitioned from 2d to 3d. The 2D stuff they've done has been awesome, it's their 3d that is so disappointing. The water is especially offensive - it looks like the distortion mesh is seperate in animation from the diffuse/detail and it looks SO WEIRD. I am surprised they even kept the distortion, it would look better with just the diffuse. Their polygon distribution is also all over the place. Excessively high poly assets next to angular rock face walls just looks really hodgepodge and broken.

[Gypsy]

Yeah. MoC looked like ass but I still loved it. Guessing this one will be a similar experience.

[NightWolve]

Good news, NIS approved a GOG version for those opposed to Steam system dependence (AKA DRM-light)!

https://www.gog.com/news/coming_soon_ys_viii_lacrimosa_of_dana

Also, to anyone interested, I'll begin running a raffle on Sept 12 when it goes on sale as a thank you to NIS America, Inc. 1st & 2nd place prize is GOG/Steam code for Ys 8 & Gurumin, and 3rd place winner just gets Gurumin. To enter, 200 post minimum for our veterans here.

[munchiaz]

Playing Ys IV right now. Getting ready for this

[Johnpv]

This was my first time ordering from NIS America's online store and they've already shipped my copy, should be here Monday.  Really looking forward to this one!

[Gypsy]

This was my first time ordering from NIS America's online store and they've already shipped my copy, should be here Monday.  Really looking forward to this one!

Been awhile since I've ordered from them but I remember getting many games from them before the release date. Even beat a few before they were officially out, heh.

[xcrement5x]

This was my first time ordering from NIS America's online store and they've already shipped my copy, should be here Monday.  Really looking forward to this one!

NISA is pretty good when it comes to customer service and shipping, I've never had an issue with them.  Only thing is that until recently, for the last 1-2 years they have been putting out a lot I have no interest in.

[NightWolve]

Guess I can delay my raffle too (although I purchased my Limited Edition set) as NIS had to do a last minute delay and won't be releasing the PC versions today... It appears they don't yet know how much more time they need since they didn't offer a new release date...

The XXXSEED shill trollbags were all over this delay, like this fanhole, having a field day, as it gave 'em an opportunity to exploit it for PR purposes, their angle being that this wouldn't have happened under XXXSEED Games, and they're bad people for snatching the licensing away from them, yadda yadda, etc. You get the idea. One last bitter sour grapes gasp for those unable to accept the reality that they lost the Ys series, hopefully for good with any luck, but who knows...

Anyway, got 5 participants in my raffle so far, and I guess I should do the formal write-up/thread this week and get it going. Might as well.

[NecroPhile]

And people like that are the first ones to tell you to "get over it".  Fuckin' hypocrites.

[turboswimbz]

And people like that are the first ones to tell you to "get over it".  Fuckin' hypocrites.

People like that are the reason I don't like "Gamers".  Nothing like calling out hate speech and then spouting off anti-woman propaganda within days of each other. 

[Gypsy]

Guess I can delay my raffle too (although I purchased my Limited Edition set) as NIS had to do a last minute delay and won't be releasing the PC versions today... It appears they don't yet know how much more time they need since they didn't offer a new release date...

The XXXSEED shill trollbags were all over this delay, like this fanhole, having a field day, as it gave 'em an opportunity to exploit it for PR purposes, their angle being that this wouldn't have happened under XXXSEED Games, and they're bad people for snatching the licensing away from them, yadda yadda, etc. You get the idea. One last bitter sour grapes gasp for those unable to accept the reality that they lost the Ys series, hopefully for good with any luck, but who knows...

Anyway, got 5 participants in my raffle so far, and I guess I should do the formal write-up/thread this week and get it going. Might as well.

Betrayed, lulz. It's BUSINESS.

[NightWolve]

And people like that are the first ones to tell you to "get over it".  Fuckin' hypocrites.

Yeah, and the difference being my situation can be solved tomorrow, but it's the stubbornness, arrogance of Ken Berry that prevents it. I've nothing to lose in speaking out regarding how they cheated me, I don't owe any of them silence or positive-only posts as they'd prefer...

Conversely, Ys 8 is in the hands of NIS, end of the story, nothing is changing that, BUT if you think about it, they wanna score points here to help XXXSEED when it comes to future Ys titles (Ys 9, 10, etc), so there's some "strategery" here by their loyalists. They want a narrative reported back to Falcom, "Look, NIS botched the Ys 8 release, this wouldn't have happened had you stuck with XXXSEED!!!"

The worst stuff is on the Steam forums, the "Go f#ck yourselves, NIS!", "Bring back XSEED!" etc. Here: http://steamcommunity.com/games/579180/announcements/detail/1441571497990560200

But that shit is 35 pages of 347 comments now, no use bothering. Some people were perfectly understandable, though, and I did learn that XXXSEED's Ys 7 Windows PC port is crash buggy, and received a patch yesterday to help... It brings up the point of putting a bit more time upfront for the 1st release, versus publishing the current build and patching it later which their buddies at XXXSEED in fact do...

Well, here's one I just found while typing this post:

You have got to be fucking kidding me.

"Thank you for your time, support, and patience with this matter."

Literally no one has any of those when you come out with this shit less than 24 hours of the planned release date.

Go fuck yourself. Give future ports to XSEED, you don't deserve to touch falcom's amazing work.

Awww, poor fella. Thing is, you don't know if this is a lost customer genuinely upset about a delay or just a shill who didn't care to buy it anyway, but decided to troll them to score points, etc. XXXSEED shills DID threaten to pirate the NIS release out of "loyalty."

The XXXSEED shill trollbags were all over this delay, like this fanhole, having a field day, as it gave 'em an opportunity to exploit it for PR purposes, their angle being that this wouldn't have happened under XXXSEED Games, and they're bad people for snatching the licensing away from them, yadda yadda, etc. You get the idea. One last bitter sour grapes gasp for those unable to accept the reality that they lost the Ys series, hopefully for good with any luck, but who knows...

Betrayed, lulz. It's BUSINESS.

Basically. ;)

Ys 8 PS4/VITA RAFFLE GIVAWAY

Anyway, one of the voice actors is also running a raffle giveway of the Limited Edition set for PS4 and the Vita, so I wanted to share the links in case any of you are interested as I'm only offering the standard digital-only Windows PC versions via GOG (which most would prefer I imagine, but I can do Steam if winner prefers).

For you PS4 owners:
https://twitter.com/sonicmega/status/908027529260232704

For you Sony Vita owners:
https://twitter.com/sonicmega/status/908026549772853248



Ah shit, hurry if you want, he closes his contest tonight at midnight! Awfully too quick!

To enter, you must Comment to answer the question AND RETWEET! That's it.

[NecroPhile]

I don't mind them delaying the PC release rather than shipping broken junk and using paying customers as beta testers, but it's bullshit that they waited hours before launch to pull the plug.  They had to have known weeks in advance that it wasn't ready, so they should've said something then and let pre-order customers decide for themselves if they'd rather have a PS4/Vita copy or wait.

[NightWolve]

Yeah, I agree, the dev team should've been able to see at least say a week before launch that they had underestimated the time needed for a competent version 1.00 release. Unless they suddenly discovered something truly egregious and what not, but yeah, it looks bad, obviously, it's just that I'm not having an emotional reaction to where I feel I wanna rip their heads off about it. We understand why the wandering XXXSEED trollbags are doing it though on their Twitter & Steam presence, heh heh. Rrriiiiiiddddddeeerrrs gonna rrrrriiiidddeeee after all...

and using paying customers as beta testers,

I would've tried to apply here for beta testing, but I learned about it too late. You would've gotten a standard Steam copy free, a $60 value, so only problem I see there is they started that too late.

[kazekirifx]

I played the Vita version way back when it was released in Japan. I thought it was excellent. One of the best Ys games in a very long time. One of the best games I've played in a very long time, in fact.

[turboswimbz]

I played the Vita version way back when it was released in Japan. I thought it was excellent. One of the best Ys games in a very long time. One of the best games I've played in a very long time, in fact.

Good to hear, but having missed out on getting the steam version I am now more anxious to get it.  haha

[xcrement5x]

Free stuff from NISA on PSN:
https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/search/f=%5Eys%2Bviii%7Cbucket~games%3Aprice~0-0%7C

[nectarsis]

Now if Sony would load the damn trophies for the Vita version 

[NecroPhile]

LOL, trophies.

[nectarsis]

LOL, trophies.

My only problem with it is now my vita won't sync at all

[Gypsy]

LOL, trophies.

This is my general stance on them as well. I have notifications disabled.

[ParanoiaDragon]

I grew to enjoy trophies.  While I don't try to get 100% on most games, I do get what's reasonable, & it's ended up giving various games extra replay value for me.

[NecroPhile]

I like 'em when they're well done and awarded for doing things that take skill or as a reward for playing the game long enough (beat the game with all character classes, kill x number of enemies, etc.), but too many games are filled with dozens and dozens of trophies for stupid shit.

[munchiaz]

I like 'em when they're well done and awarded for doing things that take skill or as a reward for playing the game long enough (beat the game with all character classes, kill x number of enemies, etc.), but too many games are filled with dozens and dozens of trophies for stupid shit.

exactly. Like heres a trophy for simply playing 10 minutes of the game.

[Psycho Punch]

I like 'em when they're well done and awarded for doing things that take skill or as a reward for playing the game long enough (beat the game with all character classes, kill x number of enemies, etc.), but too many games are filled with dozens and dozens of trophies for stupid shit.

Arcade Archives releases never fail to make me laugh when a trophy pops up, all of them have these trophies:

Code Select Expand

Option menu opened.
Display settings opened.
Game settings opened.
Button settings opened.
All of the manual has been read.
Online rankings opened.
The game has been reset.
The score has been posted to the online rankings.
High score has been updated.


[ParanoiaDragon]

Yeah, that's true, I enjoy the trophies that require skill!

[Gypsy]

I like 'em when they're well done and awarded for doing things that take skill or as a reward for playing the game long enough (beat the game with all character classes, kill x number of enemies, etc.), but too many games are filled with dozens and dozens of trophies for stupid shit.

Arcade Archives releases never fail to make me laugh when a trophy pops up, all of them have these trophies:

Code Select Expand

Option menu opened.
Display settings opened.
Game settings opened.
Button settings opened.
All of the manual has been read.
Online rankings opened.
The game has been reset.
The score has been posted to the online rankings.
High score has been updated.


Gods among men.

[NecroPhile]

I finally picked up my copy of Ys VIII for Vita.

[DragonmasterDan]

Good news everyone!

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/nis-america-will-re-edit-ys-viii-lacrimosa-of-danas-localization-amid-complaints

[Gredler]

Wow, makes me want to get it and patch it - I wonder if there will be a ninja'd second gold master with the fix applied so this doesn't rest on the reliability of the services to provide a patch down the road.

[Gypsy]

Wow, makes me want to get it and patch it - I wonder if there will be a ninja'd second gold master with the fix applied so this doesn't rest on the reliability of the services to provide a patch down the road.

That would be really nice. With it clearly noted on the disc art too.

[NightWolve]

WOW, I had hoped this could at least happen for the PC version but the voice acting led me and someone else to think it wouldn't cause you'd have to get all the actors to revoice lines while just changing text can be done at any time...

Guess those XXXSEED protest warriors, their negative script reports and their email campaign to Falcom, got NISA to give this a second look... Well played, aholes...

It's an embarrassment, sure, but the customer will hopefully get a better product in the end, and thankfully we STILL are spared Tom-chan @XXXSEEDGames sticking his dumb jokes/references in your Ys game...so WIN WIN!!!!

That despicable company had an unfair advantage for 4 Ys scripts in hijacking the fan translations I produced with Jeff "DeuceBag" Nussbaum because he was a good editor and they gained 24,000 pre-translated strings plus 100's of images on their lap, letting them skip to more editing, saving time in the process, polishing it even more... Least NISA didn't cheat/exploit anybody unlike those aholes!!!

I think XXXSEED's Jessica Chavez is a good editor too, unlike Tom-chan seems to have a good sense of humor, so if I was NISA I'd hire her as she's a freelancer but loyalty to XXXSEED might lead her to decline if they tried...

[Joe Redifer]

Beat Ys 8 a little over a week ago. Fantastic game! There are a few nitpicks I have with it but they are not huge nitpicks. I'd recommend it to everyone so that future Ys games may also be made. This is probably the best Ys game since Ys 4 on the Turbo, and I only hold the first 4 Ys games as high as I do because of nostalgia. This is so much more than those games. 33 hours for me to get through, but look at 40 or 50 if you wanna do everything and get the "true" ending where Adol and Dogi make out. There is no reason not to buy this game.

[NecroPhile]

So Adol always skipped town and left the girls hanging because they didn't have a penis? 

What'd you think of the translation?  I've not played it yet, but I've seen some of the stinkers online; they don't look that horrible to me (I've played worse), but I think Ys deserves better and I'm glad they're going to fix it.

[NightWolve]

Ys 8 now Game Sack approved, right on!

[ParanoiaDragon]

Fantastic game, haven't finished it yet though.  The translation just doesn't seem bad enough to warrant the outcry.  My wife decided to play this as her next game, & is super addicted!  Infact, I've been playing it for a month, & she's only been playing it for a couple weeks, & she passed my progress on it a couple nights ago!

[nectarsis]

Beat the game last week, I can see the translation being stiff, etc but the outcry is WAYYYYY overplayed.  I def will playthru a NG+.

[NightWolve]

The translation just doesn't seem bad enough to warrant the outcry.

It is flat, literal from what I understand but you know why this happened, sour grapes from XXXSEEDite fanboys that NISA swooped down like a hawk and snatched the Ys series far and away from XXXSEED...

If there wasn't absolute perfection, they were gonna nitpick and exploit anything, unfortunately NISA gave them plenty to work with both with the script problems and last minute delay on the PC build...

Ah well, fine by me, not since Konami's Ys 6 PS2 port have I purchased a legit localized Ys title, so I'm not gonna let em spoil my mood, if XXXSEED and Tom-chan had got their hands on it, I wouldn't be touching it!

[geise]

Why don't you just import them then? At least you could play them.

[NightWolve]

Well, I only skipped Ys Origin, Celceta and 7 (I do own Falcom's first Ys Origin PC release). So play them in Japanese you mean ?

I thought I'd pirate Celceta, play with a PSP emulator since it was translated by Daniel "Varion" Prescott and not any of the criminal cheats, but I stopped caring years ago, never bothered...

Daniel actually donated $25 to me in the Felghana fan era, but he hanged with that Tom-chan/Kirsten "omgfailure" Miller "I-hate-NightWolve!" ahole clique on Ys forums, so I recall he went on to personally attack me...wasn't terribly exciting to wanna play through him either...

Hey, on that note, the number of XXXSEED Games associates I've been attacked by is up to 5 then, HAHAHAHAHA!!! Psycho Kirsten Miller, Tom-chan "Keep the KKK, man!" Lipschultz, Daniel Prescott, Lying Jeff "I'm a bi cock-flasher!" Nussbaum (the biggest two-faced coward, first behind my back), and their Steam coder, Sara Leen... Brittany used my "XXXSEED" porn joke on her Twitter, but that's about it, heh. I detected perhaps minor annoyance.

One more tangent: I did start the Ys Origin translation project after importing it as you might know before I retired/quit in April 2007, only after the cock-flashing fake translator [Jeff DeuceBag] begged me, just as I was about to delete my project files and website...

He cried not to take away the only thing he was proud of in his life, "Don't take fan translation work away from me..." Here I was, 5 years later, drained my savings to work on Ys projects, the Felghana patch was leaked, the download stats showed 99% freeloading, it was time to quit for me! I needed to get real paying work after I got some landlord duties out of the way for rental property but he didn't care!!!

So the degenerate bastard was crying, tells me about his suicide attempt, his drug dependence, his cane disability due to hip nerve damage (he's a crippled miserable ahole), etc. to manipulate sympathy... Already knew about his bankruptcy too. Unfortunately, I fell for it not knowing what a real monster this guy was all along, I shouldn't have, but let that be a lesson to anyone else! He's a self admitted sociopath, so take any of his bullshit with a grain of salt.

I didn't want to get sucked into another Ys project, I wanted to retire after Ys II actually, but Ys VI and Felghana sucked me back in... After the leak, I wanted to quit for sure, but after his begging with Ys Origin, I tried to think another way which was I wasn't gonna do it for free and I wanted ONLY paying Falcom customers who owned an Ys Origin DVD to get to use it, no pirate users, most of the 99% freeloaders should get nothing!

Jeff offered to pay me to do the project, but I foolishly didn't think that was fair to him... I should've taken that deal in retrospect but seeing what a liar the guy is and him running off with 100% of every penny he got from XXXSEED, that "deal" was likely worth dirt just to hold me over...

So we started work under the payware idea where I also ruled out paying him a flat fee. He rejected that because if it sold well, that'd leave me with a windfall profit and not fair cause we were "partners..." He insisted on a 40/60% royalty split... I thought that was too much in his favor based on work hours, but he thought it was *perfect* and got angry that I didn't accept it...

After fighting, almost parting ways, I got him to accept 25/75%, and under those terms I produced the most advanced version of my Translation Station software yet, giving him full editing control at the push of a button! I also implemented runtime script dumping, he plays Ys Origin and it logs every onscreen string to a HTML file, giving him most of the script in the exact order for maximum context, including character names doing the talking which was never available from the raw dumps!

He got enormous advantages no other fan translator ever received, and when he got to 100% about 2 years later with me still retired assuming he'd wait for me, he secretly exported the translated results to Tom-chan's Italian coder, and then on to XXXSEED Games in an epic double cross I'm sure they're all proud of to this day! I learned the real royalty split Jeff was all about was 100% for himself and 0% for everybody else!!

Note that a few months after agreeing with a 25/75% royalty split, I thought to smooth things over by giving him that $550, a cut from the $1300 I made from the Felghana early access program. I masked it as part wedding gift. I made one of the classic mistakes in life, you can't buy friends and I never truly knew what he was. He hated himself for having to work with a republican, that's all he saw me as... He hated having to lower himself to work with "a guy like me" given his Amazing Atheist Anus superiority complex, he's a bigoted fanatic, just hid enough of it with me to get by and when he no longer needed me since Tom-chan presented another option, he took it, played all sides when he needed to, then after XXXSEED pretended he didn't know me anymore for 3 years...

I wonder how things would've worked out if I had told him to go f*ck himself with Ys Origin, had just deleted my site as planned, and destoyed my project folders, research, software, etc. having totally rid myself of the Jeffs, the Tom-chans and the 99% freeloader brigade... They still would've cheated me on Ys I, II and Felghana, but I gave him a 4th project to cheat me on under shaky circumstances...

XXXSEED is a piece of shit company, no doubt about that in my mind and it can all be traced back to allowing a pedo-pandering degenerate like Tom-chan Lipschultz into influencing the company into horrible business decisions... They think they're better than me, always have, I was the too-embarrassing-to-be-credited guy, and that's a key factor why I'll continue to expose and log every last embarrassing comment or act they commit!

Jeff published a death wish on Kotaku recently, it happened on the KKK witches protest warrior article about Tom-chan. He's a tough guy now, went from begging to hoping I'll die from some kind of brain disease, he was quite specific. It's great stuff that I rattled his criminal cage, got under his skin after so many years of him hiding, trying to act "professional" but he couldn't keep that mask on.

His meltdown also tells me XXXSEED would never work with him again, not just cause of the 2 projects he botched with the company as he's a fake machine translator who needs WWWJDIC for every string, always was, he just papered over his guess and mistranslations with good editing... Jim Breen's WWWJDIC didn't even get a Special Thanks credit either, cause he only cares to credit Me, Myself and I...

Never has someone gained so much from fan translation work and deserved NONE of the benefits. If you have to step on other people to get ahead, you deserve NOTHING!! It's all my fault for putting out a translator recruitment call for Ys I and the bastard crawling out of the Neo Geo forums to find me, but yeah, shit happens...

/end rant

I'd like to beat Ys 8 this year as soon as the Steam version goes live. It brought back a little excitement for me given a different company won the licensing rights and XXXSEED Games was slapped in the f*cking face by Falcom by giving the project to a competitor! Finally, I thought, a little justice to a despicable company that doesn't deserve loyalty and operated under principles of backstabbing itself!!!

Anyway, I am cursed with remembering all this history as you can see, so you can imagine how appreciative I am that NIS America took away the Ys series from such a despicable company like no other! They never deserved it, they chose to create this kind of ugly, divisive, criminal history and it's hard to justify if it was all worth it...

I think what disturbs me most is both Tom-chan and Jeff sleep well, not an ounce of regret; it's coming to understand that they're proud of what they did and feel I "deserved it..." The whole thing is incredible to me...it left me speechless for years but that too was yet another mistake on my part which I've been making up for...

[turboswimbz]

Yeah, I'm waiting for the updated PC versions.  as I don't have a system to play the other versions.  IDK about finishing it this year.  looks like the PC version is at best Mid December release.  I am slightly mad to have to wait but, if I get both updated polished script and a glitch-free experience it isn't all bad.

[NecroPhile]

The translation update patch and PC version have been further delayed.  Now they say they won't be out until sometime early next year.

[Gypsy]

Man, to fuck up that bad....

[turboswimbz]

Man, to fuck up that bad....

Ehhh I kinda think it was blown a little out of proportion.  Most people seem to think the script wasn't that bad. And I expected a least a few delays once they started fixing bugs.  fix 1 create 2 and so on . . .