Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )

NecroPhile · 08/03/2010, 04:18 PM

Roy deleted the old "gouging much" thread, so here it is born anew. It's too bad the old thread is gone, as it was filled with funnies and absolutely insane deals; I guess covering his tracks and hiding his hypocrisy was more important than preserving the laughs.

Thanks to Black & Blue: click here for a cached version of the old thread (click here to download a pdf version).

As previously posted, here's a mystery bundle of gaming goodies for a mere $64,816.32. It was last up for the paltry sum of $39,000, so you best pull the trigger soon before it jumps into the six figure range.

In a similar vein, here's a new TG-16 for $1880. If memory serves, it was previously listed for $1200 and then $1600. Reverse psychology fail.

Arkhan Asylum · 08/03/2010, 05:30 PM

Quote from: NecroPhile on 08/03/2010, 04:18 PMRoy deleted the old "gouging much" thread, so here it is born anew. It's too bad the old thread is gone, as it was filled with funnies and absolutely insane deals; I guess covering his tracks and hiding his hypocrisy was more important than preserving the laughs.

Sure was, since hes trying to salvage his coolpoints on Digitpress.

Cant a mod/admin bring it back?

Why did these both not sell, and then get MORE expensive. lol. dyslexic ebay

SignOfZeta · 08/03/2010, 06:09 PM

Damn, that sucks. The old thread was a perfect three act play.

Arkhan Asylum · 08/03/2010, 06:11 PM

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 08/03/2010, 06:09 PMDamn, that sucks. The old thread was a perfect three act play.

well yknow, haters gonna hate and all.

SignOfZeta · 08/03/2010, 06:17 PM

Btw, I'm not a fan of people being able to delete their threads/tracks. There was a time on here were my then-arch nemisis quoted one of my posts, highly edited, and then deleted my original so only his version existed.

I've said some dumb shit in the past. I'm not proud of it, but I'm not going to Ministry of Information it away. I grew, I learned, whatever. People of decent character have no need to censor their own past.

turbogrfxfan · 08/03/2010, 07:03 PM

what a lame move how stupid. oh well out of site out of mind.

Raizen1984 · 08/03/2010, 07:05 PM

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 08/03/2010, 06:17 PMBtw, I'm not a fan of people being able to delete their threads/tracks.

I agree. That Gouging Much thread had a lot of important information in it, not to mention a ton of entertainment value. He shouldn't have been able to delete it after so many people had posted in it.

Arkhan Asylum · 08/03/2010, 07:06 PM

Yeah, removing what you said is when you know:

Gentlegamer · 08/03/2010, 08:37 PM

Looks like I missed something here . . .

Can we get the cyber-police to back trace the old thread?

henrycsc · 08/03/2010, 09:49 PM

nectarsis · 08/03/2010, 09:51 PM

Quote from: henrycsc on 08/03/2010, 09:49 PMTurbo Express w/ all the trimmings $1200 http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-NEC-TURBO-GRAFX-16-EXPRESS-SYSTEM-W-TV-MORE-RARE-/320556245071?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Video_Games&hash=item4aa2a4204f Has awesome Bonk video though not displaying on the actual Express screen... LOL

Hmmmmmmm Milwaukee eh? *Plans trip for a "price adjustment"

BlackandBlue · 08/03/2010, 10:15 PM

google is your friend.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:aIKqQu5sNUsJ:www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php%3Faction%3Dprintpage;topic%3D6997.0+site:pcengine-fx.com+gouging+much&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Roy can delete the thread, but he cant delete the internetz, muuuhaha (too bad its cached from before all hell broke loose)

Arkhan Asylum · 08/03/2010, 11:39 PM

HE CAN TAKE OUR LIVES BUT HE'LL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM!!112345

henrycsc · 08/04/2010, 06:12 AM

Thanks Black and Blue.. should we snag it and post it in an archive just in case Google removes it from their cache?

NecroPhile · 08/04/2010, 09:38 AM

Quote from: BlackandBlue on 08/03/2010, 10:15 PMgoogle is your friend.

Thanks, B&B. Link added to the first post for everyone's reading pleasure.

Quote from: henrycsc on 08/04/2010, 06:12 AMShould we snag it and post it in an archive just in case Google removes it from their cache?

Done and done. A pdf is available in the first post.

geise · 08/04/2010, 01:39 PM

Well...there goes my work reading material.

God he's such a fucking dick!

blueraven · 08/04/2010, 02:01 PM

Thanks guys, I'm glad we live in the information age.

I'm not a big fan of the cover-up/denial thing. Goes against my morals. Admit what you've done, be judged by your words and your actions, move on.

Quote from: guest on 08/04/2010, 09:38 AM
Quote from: BlackandBlue on 08/03/2010, 10:15 PMgoogle is your friend.
Thanks, B&B. Link added to the first post for everyone's reading pleasure.

Quote from: henrycsc on 08/04/2010, 06:12 AMShould we snag it and post it in an archive just in case Google removes it from their cache?
Done and done. A pdf is available in the first post.

Ok so.....

http://cgi.ebay.com/PC-Engine-CONTROLLER-PCE-NEC-HE-SYSTEM-JAPAN-/140432067454?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Video_Games_Accessories&hash=item20b2674b7e

These controllers aren't worth more than $12 shipped in NEW condition. And the Orange ones aren't worth more than $13 shipped.

BlackandBlue · 08/04/2010, 02:04 PM

Quote from: blueraven on 08/04/2010, 02:01 PMOk so.....

http://cgi.ebay.com/PC-Engine-CONTROLLER-PCE-NEC-HE-SYSTEM-JAPAN-/140432067454?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Video_Games_Accessories&hash=item20b2674b7e

These controllers aren't worth more than $12 shipped in NEW condition. And the Orange ones aren't worth more than $13 shipped.

But they are so JDM! (sorry, hanging around the car forums too much) I think I got a Core system with a controller for that price.

SignOfZeta · 08/04/2010, 04:27 PM

$12 shipped seems kind of low. $40 shipped is obviously too high. I admit I haven't bought any controllers recently though.

Either way, this is small stuff compared to $300 TG-16s, etc.

I think I better buy a PC Engine LT soon...before the market for the hugely overpriced low end crap catches up with the expensive and legitimately rare stuff and we are looking at $10,000 LTs. In all honesty, if Bonk 3, fucking BONK 3 is worth $150 or whatever to these people then a $650 LT looks like a real bargain. How long will it stay this way?

Dang. I really don't want to spend that much money on a third PC Engine system, but it may be now or never.

Roy The Sunderer · 08/04/2010, 05:30 PM

This stuff is insane. I picked a really bad time to get back into TG-16. It's getting to the point where it's hard to find even the common games at reasonable prices. When exactly did this trend start?

SignOfZeta · 08/04/2010, 05:51 PM

Well, Magical Chase was $100 about 10 years ago. Games like Dungeon Explorer II and Godzilla were aways worth MSRP or more. Things started to get really stupid...not that long ago, really. Maybe 4-5 years ago? They got hella stupid just in the last two years.

While its a bad time to just start on TG-16, there has never been a better time for PC Engine. What the more frugal minded people do is buy all PC Engine stuff except for the dozen or so US games that have a lot text in them. There is zero point whatsoever in having a censored, case-less, US Bonk 3 HuCard for four times the price of a JP one, but you will always want a US version of Ys 1&2, Y's III, Neutopia 1 and 2, Dungeon Explorer 1 and 2, Cosmic Fantasy 2, Dragon Slayer...I'm forgetting a few here. It Came From the Desert...not much else. Most (all?) of the US exclusives, Darkwing Duck, Madden, can just be skipped totally. A US Ninja Spirit is (was?) cheaper than the JP version a lot of the times, so you might want a US version of that too.

All the shooters, the platformers, China Warrior, etc, just get JP versions. A large number of the best games didn't come out in the US at all. Ys IV, half the shooters, the entire Arcade Card library, and virtually all of the fighters, are JP only.

Arkhan Asylum · 08/05/2010, 01:43 AM

Quote from: Roy The Sunderer on 08/04/2010, 05:30 PMThis stuff is insane. I picked a really bad time to get back into TG-16. It's getting to the point where it's hard to find even the common games at reasonable prices. When exactly did this trend start?

it started when people like roy got greedy and wanted to go all lolbay.

ZachSpears · 08/05/2010, 03:59 AM

Quote from: Psycho Arkhan on 08/05/2010, 01:43 AM
Quote from: Roy The Sunderer on 08/04/2010, 05:30 PMThis stuff is insane. I picked a really bad time to get back into TG-16. It's getting to the point where it's hard to find even the common games at reasonable prices. When exactly did this trend start?
it started when people like roy got greedy and wanted to go all lolbay.

actually it never started... common games are still very cheap on ebay.

blueraven · 08/05/2010, 04:15 AM

I was paying $7 Per controller plus shipping until the first bout of gouging last year. From hit-japan, risingstuff, and on yahoo JP consistantly.

lord_cack · 08/05/2010, 06:44 AM

Quote from: Rockabilly Paradise on 08/05/2010, 03:59 AM
Quote from: Psycho Arkhan on 08/05/2010, 01:43 AM
Quote from: Roy The Sunderer on 08/04/2010, 05:30 PMThis stuff is insane. I picked a really bad time to get back into TG-16. It's getting to the point where it's hard to find even the common games at reasonable prices. When exactly did this trend start?
it started when people like roy got greedy and wanted to go all lolbay.
actually it never started... common games are still very cheap on ebay.

Yeah but who needs that many Mahjong games....

BlueBMW · 08/05/2010, 07:21 AM

I had a ton of TG stuff back in 2003 or so. When I sold all my stuff in 2005 to buy a house I didn't realize how much I'd regret it all later. Just this year I've been trying to rebuild my TG collection. Its unreal how much this stuff has blown up in cost. I'm just lucky I found a broken Duo I was able to repair. That saved some cash. But some of these games have gone absolutely nuts.

geise · 08/05/2010, 09:37 AM

It sure as hell has! The sad thing is that the expensive games are probably being bought by reseller after reseller after reseller. With every time it's purchased it's going back up for sale at a higher price, to make a profit off of an already gouged price.

NecroPhile · 08/05/2010, 10:21 AM

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 08/04/2010, 05:51 PMWell, Magical Chase was $100 about 10 years ago. Games like Dungeon Explorer II and Godzilla were always worth MSRP or more. Things started to get really stupid...not that long ago, really. Maybe 4-5 years ago? They got hella stupid just in the last two years.

While its a bad time to just start on TG-16, there has never been a better time for PC Engine. What the more frugal minded people do is buy all PC Engine stuff except for the dozen or so US games that have a lot text in them. There is zero point whatsoever in having a censored, case-less, US Bonk 3 HuCard for four times the price of a JP one, but you will always want a US version of Ys 1&2, Y's III, Neutopia 1 and 2, Dungeon Explorer 1 and 2, Cosmic Fantasy 2, Dragon Slayer...I'm forgetting a few here. It Came From the Desert...not much else. Most (all?) of the US exclusives, Darkwing Duck, Madden, can just be skipped totally. A US Ninja Spirit is (was?) cheaper than the JP version a lot of the times, so you might want a US version of that too.

What he said. There are only a few US titles that sell for big bucks, and only Dungeon Explorer II, Might & Magic III, and Beyond Shadowgate (which is US only anyway) are needed for the translations; hell, Godzilla and Exile: Wicked Phenomenon were maimed in translation and consequently better in PCE form, and the rest of 'em play the same regardless of region. If one does want the US titles, with patience the bulk of the library can be had cheap (less than $20 per title, especially when buying in bulk).

Roy The Sunderer · 08/05/2010, 11:32 AM

Quote from: guest on 08/05/2010, 10:21 AMIf one does want the US titles, with patience the bulk of the library can be had cheap (less than $20 per title, especially when buying in bulk).

Very true. This is how I've managed to get most of my TG-16 games. The games I keep for my collection end up costing less on average and I have no problem trading/selling the extras. Trying to snag individual, more uncommon games for decent prices can still be tricky.

chany60126 · 08/05/2010, 11:42 AM

Quote from: Roy The Sunderer on 08/05/2010, 11:32 AM
Quote from: guest on 08/05/2010, 10:21 AMIf one does want the US titles, with patience the bulk of the library can be had cheap (less than $20 per title, especially when buying in bulk).
Very true. This is how I've managed to get most of my TG-16 games. The games I keep for my collection end up costing less on average and I have no problem trading/selling the extras. Trying to snag individual, more uncommon games for decent prices can still be tricky.

Good prices can also be had at gaming conventions. I was able to snag some rare games like Bonk 3 CD and Neutopia II at prices well below market value at the last Midwest Gaming Classic in Milwaukee.

nectarsis · 08/05/2010, 11:49 AM

Quote from: chany60126 on 08/05/2010, 11:42 AM
Quote from: Roy The Sunderer on 08/05/2010, 11:32 AM
Quote from: guest on 08/05/2010, 10:21 AMIf one does want the US titles, with patience the bulk of the library can be had cheap (less than $20 per title, especially when buying in bulk).
Very true. This is how I've managed to get most of my TG-16 games. The games I keep for my collection end up costing less on average and I have no problem trading/selling the extras. Trying to snag individual, more uncommon games for decent prices can still be tricky.
Good prices can also be had at gaming conventions. I was able to snag some rare games like Bonk 3 CD and Neutopia II at prices well below market value at the last Midwest Gaming Classic in Milwaukee.

Good to hear there's still deals to be had there. I know 2 years ago the Goat Store had a loose Bonk 3 Hu only for $250..I just laughed at them and walked away.

Roy The Sunderer · 08/05/2010, 11:55 AM

Quote from: chany60126 on 08/05/2010, 11:42 AMGood prices can also be had at gaming conventions.

True. Are there any local (Chicago area) gaming conventions going on in the near future? I know they used to have one in Bridgeview once or twice a year.

chany60126 · 08/05/2010, 12:10 PM

Quote from: Roy The Sunderer on 08/05/2010, 11:55 AM
Quote from: chany60126 on 08/05/2010, 11:42 AMGood prices can also be had at gaming conventions.
True. Are there any local (Chicago area) gaming conventions going on in the near future? I know they used to have one in Bridgeview once or twice a year.

Well Roy, the only (retro) gaming convention that will take place in the near future is again the Video Game Summit, which is where Turbo Fest 2011 will make another triumphant return.

I never heard about the one in Bridgeview, must have been a while back because I totally would have been there.

Roy The Sunderer · 08/05/2010, 12:25 PM

Those Bridgeview shows are probably ancient history by now. The only other upcoming show I could find info about is the Chicago Comic-Con this month from the 19th-22nd. There will most likely be gaming stuff there, but I've never gone so I don't know exactly how much.

NecroPhile · 08/05/2010, 04:09 PM

To go with the 50 pack of Yo Bros, how 'bout a score of Fatal Fury 2? They're new, sealed, and shipped to your door for only $8.66 each ($173.20 total).

Arkhan Asylum · 08/05/2010, 11:04 PM

Those would make nice party favors/coasters.

henrycsc · 08/06/2010, 07:55 AM

Ark, I bet you he could sell those Fatal Fury 2s for twice that if you autographed 'em!

How about some jacked-up "Manuel" Densetsu for your collection
http://cgi.ebay.com/Turbo-Grafx-Only-Manuel-pc-title-17-/220649575458?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0
(this RAER item also goes by the name: : Locked-up Peachboy Noriega)

Look at all the other Dick-Taters that seller has available:
http://shop.ebay.com/matterdont/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340

Senshi · 08/06/2010, 05:38 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/TURBO-GRAFX-16-SYSTEM-NEW-RARE-COLLECTORS-/320569868967?pt=Video_Games

When people ask why your smelling your hands...just say..."its the turbo factory smell baby"

henrycsc · 08/06/2010, 11:38 PM

I've had a rash of auctions (4) that I was bidding on cancelled by different sellers in the past week.
This last seller actually admitted through the ebay messaging service that they sold the lot to someone who "REALLY" wanted it.

Here is the latest yanked auction (I'm sure many of you saw):
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120604508172

Lots of stuff but nothing super-rare,
Boxed Turbo Grafx 16 + 54 Games described as:
1)Night Creatures 100 percent complete with box, case, hu card and manual!
2) Time Cruise 100 percent complete with box, case, hu card and tray
3)Shockman 100 percent complete with box, case, hu-card, manual and tray
4) Tiger Road 100 percent complete with box, case, hu-card and manual
5) Sidearms 100 percent complete with box, case, hu-card and manual
6) Blazing Lazers SEALED NEVER OPENED
7) Final Zone II SEALED NEVER OPENED
8)Bravoman SEALED NEVER OPENED
9) Super Star Soldier comes with its case, manual, and hu-card
10) Cyber-Core comes with a case and its manual and hu-card
11) Devil's Crush comes with a case, manual and hu-card
12) China Warrior comes with its case, manual and hu-card
13) BoxyBoy comes with its case, manual and hu-card
14) R-type comes with a case, manual and hu-card
15) Talespin comes with a case, manual and hu-card
16) Soldier Blade comes with a case, manual and hu-card
17) Air Zonk comes with a case, manual and hu-card
18) Dead Moon comes with a case, manual and hu-card
19) King of casino comes with its case, manual and hu-card
20) Bonk's Revenge comes with its case
21) Bonk's Adventure comes with its case, manual and hu-card
22) Ballistix comes with its case, manual and hu-card
23) Tv sports hockey comes with case, manual and hu-card
24) Tv sports football comes with its case, manual and hu-card
25) Tv sports basketball comes with its case, manual and hu-card
26) Ninja Spirit comes with its case, manual, and hu-card
27) Aero blasters comes with its case, manual and hu-card
28) Alien Crush comes with its case, manual and hu-card
29) Dungeon Explorer comes with its case, manual and hu-card
30) Silent Debuggers comes as hu-card only and manual if i can find it
31) Dragon's Curse comes as hu-card only
32) Final Lap twin comes as hu-card only
33) Shadow of the beast SEALED NEVER OPENED
34) Victory Run comes with its case, manual and hu-card
35) Splatterhouse comes with its case, manual and hu-card
36) Ordyne comes with its case, manual and hu-card
37) Turrican comes with its case, manual, and hu-card
38) Keith courage comes with its case, manual and hu-card
39) World class baseball comes its case, manual and hu-card
40) JJ and Jeff comes with its case, manual and hu-card
41) Power golf comes with its case, manual and hu-card
42) Neutopia comes with its case, manual and hu-card
43) takin it to the hoop comes with its case, manual and hu-card
44) Vigilante comes with its case, manual and hu-card
45) Veigues Tactical Gladiator comes with its manual, case and hu-card
46) Raiden comes with its case, manual and hu-card
47) Pac land comes with its case, manual and hu-card
48) Parasol Stars comes with its case, manual and hu-card
49) Space Harrier comes its case, manual and hu-card
50) Blazing lazers comes with its case, manual and hu-card
51) Legendary Axe comes with its case, manual and hu-card
52) Sinistron comes with its case, manual and hu-card
53) Klax comes with its case, manual and hu-card
54) Bloody Wolf comes with its case, manual and hu-card

Here is the text of the seller's message to me:
i doubt i will lose money, this sale went for 4 figures, lmao. theres no way that auction would have ended for what i sold it for. i couldnt pass up this deal. normally i wouldnt do that but this time this person REALLY wanted this stuff.

At least the seller had some sanity about it knowing full well that the auction wasn't worth that, though it is slimy (and against ebay policy) to do what they did.

4 digits for this lot? What is going on here? There are way too many of these large lots selling for high $ for it to be just one or two crazy buyers.

I can't imagine a re-seller would think this could earn a profit on that purchase price (even using pricing of buying every piece individually, you'd be hard pressed to spend $1000). It just doesn't add up.

Anybody else having this stuff happen?

blueraven · 08/07/2010, 04:15 AM

Someone pulled a copy of GoT I picked up for $26 that in the seller's opinion should have gone for much, much more.

He canceled the auction 3 minutes before close stating "I want to keep it"

If he joins the forum, his userid should be SuperDouche2.

BlueBMW · 08/07/2010, 11:32 AM

I guess I'd rather them cancel an auction than shill bid it up. Either way its a bummer when it happens.

henrycsc · 08/07/2010, 12:24 PM

Blummer blue...
I also had a boxed PCE GT pulled (seller wouldnt respond to emails after he pulled it)

and I was bidding on the Boxed TGCD (seller stated boxed CD is "no longer available" but didn't say they were keeping it and didn't ask me for another offer (was a few days from closing.))

Quote from: blueraven on 08/07/2010, 04:15 AMSomeone pulled a copy of GoT I picked up for $26 that in the seller's opinion should have gone for much, much more.

He canceled the auction 3 minutes before close stating "I want to keep it"

If he joins the forum, his userid should be SuperDouche2.

turbogrfxfan · 08/07/2010, 12:39 PM

ive seen alot of auctions ending early. it is what it is. I think it sucks but what can you do?

NecroPhile · 08/07/2010, 10:14 PM

Quote from: henrycsc on 08/06/2010, 11:38 PMI've had a rash of auctions (4) that I was bidding on cancelled by different sellers in the past week.
This last seller actually admitted through the ebay messaging service that they sold the lot to someone who "REALLY" wanted it.

I hope you turned his ass in to eBay; they really hate it when somebody screws 'em out of their fees ($70-75 had it sold at $1000).

Quote from: turbogrfxfan on 08/07/2010, 12:39 PMI think it sucks but what can you do?

Mail 'em an air tight box.... after you've shat in it and topped it off with a bit of silane gas. Surprise!

blueraven · 08/08/2010, 03:09 PM

Quote from: henrycsc on 08/07/2010, 12:24 PMBlummer blue...
I also had a boxed PCE GT pulled (seller wouldnt respond to emails after he pulled it)

They of course get reported for pulling that shit. It's been happening to quite a few of us lately.

77FordTruckMan · 08/10/2010, 11:43 PM

Quote from: henrycsc on 08/03/2010, 09:49 PMTurbo Express w/ all the trimmings $1200 http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-NEC-TURBO-GRAFX-16-EXPRESS-SYSTEM-W-TV-MORE-RARE-/320556245071?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Video_Games&hash=item4aa2a4204f Has awesome Bonk video though not displaying on the actual Express screen... LOL

I just wanted to point out, that you can get a new one here for $300 or so it appears http://www.playerschoicevideogames.com/pd_turbo_grafx.cfm

nectarsis · 08/11/2010, 11:35 AM

Not gouging persay but:

http://cgi.ebay.com/AKIYAMAJIN-NO-SUUGAKU-MYSTERY-PC-ENGINE-CD-JAPAN-IMPORT-/320574253487?pt=Video_Games_Games

WONDER TWIN SALE POWERS

NecroPhile · 08/11/2010, 12:26 PM

Quote from: nectarsis on 08/11/2010, 11:35 AMNot gouging persay but: $3500 Akiyama Jin

WONDER TWIN SALE POWERS

Man, that's crazy. You gotta love the $4 shipping (maybe insurance is free in France or he's absorbing the cost, but if that's the case, why not absorb the $4 too?), plus the option of paying by bank wire transfer practically screams SCAM!

blueraven · 08/11/2010, 03:58 PM

That's a god-awful amount for one game...

What're the statistics on production for teh Math simulator?

Quote from: nectarsis on 08/11/2010, 11:35 AMNot gouging persay but:

http://cgi.ebay.com/AKIYAMAJIN-NO-SUUGAKU-MYSTERY-PC-ENGINE-CD-JAPAN-IMPORT-/320574253487?pt=Video_Games_Games

WONDER TWIN SALE POWERS

NecroPhile · 08/12/2010, 11:20 AM

It's not on eBay, but it's definitely an attempt at gouging: clicky. I've seen 'em both go on eBay for less than the bullshit prices he's quoting, not to mention he's padding his profit by saving eBay's fees ($15 or so on $100).