PCEngine-FX.com

Other Discussions => General Gaming => Topic started by: Arkhan Asylum on 08/30/2017, 09:16 PM

Title: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: Arkhan Asylum on 08/30/2017, 09:16 PM
https://store.iam8bit.com/products/street-fighter-ii-30th-anniversary-edition

This is where we're at now.

It "retro".



fuck me sideways
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: Killjoyy027 on 08/30/2017, 09:19 PM
I like how the warning says this might cause you SNES to burn or catch fire. What a great advertisement...
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: bartre on 08/30/2017, 10:01 PM
Quote from: Killjoyy027 on 08/30/2017, 09:19 PMI like how the warning says this might cause you SNES to burn or catch fire. What a great advertisement...
https://db-electronics.ca/2017/07/05/the-dangers-of-3-3v-flash-in-retro-consoles/

but it has "Retro Pack-In Surprises"
 :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: o.pwuaioc on 08/30/2017, 10:03 PM
Has anyone actually bought this? Besides the braindead collectards, of course.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: TheClash603 on 08/31/2017, 12:21 AM
It's limited, so you better get it before they run out of the limit.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: BigusSchmuck on 08/31/2017, 12:43 AM
RGT85 did lol.
http://youtu.be/Xs11I_w9Jvw
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: Arkhan Asylum on 08/31/2017, 12:47 AM
I hope his SNES ignites and flies straight into his dick
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: Mishran on 08/31/2017, 02:24 AM
Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 08/31/2017, 12:43 AMRGT85 did lol.
http://youtu.be/Xs11I_w9Jvw
Who the hell is this sorry excuse for an mouth breather and why does he have almost 50,000 subscribers??? I'm gonna go find a rock to crawl under and weep, for this world is beyond hope.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: SignOfZeta on 08/31/2017, 02:35 AM
Man, of all the fucking games to reissue...even in today's idiotic Retro bubble this thing can be had for $6.

Of course I'm dying to see the guts.

If this keeps going to the point where original labels start issuing real carts again I'm %100 A-OK with that but at the moment it kinda feels like the dream of the Retro VGS has been borrowed.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: crazydean on 08/31/2017, 02:56 AM
You guys are all looking at it the wrong way. This is a good thing. If a collector idiot spends $100 on this shit, that's $100 he doesn't have to spend on real turbo games.

The market will crash, people, and Capcom is here to help.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: Johnpv on 08/31/2017, 07:38 AM
Quote from: Mishran on 08/31/2017, 02:24 AM
Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 08/31/2017, 12:43 AMRGT85 did lol.
http://youtu.be/Xs11I_w9Jvw
Who the hell is this sorry excuse for an mouth breather and why does he have almost 50,000 subscribers??? I'm gonna go find a rock to crawl under and weep, for this world is beyond hope.
Youtube has pushed some of his videos on me, and they're all half assed poorly shot.  I do NOT get how he has 50,000 subscribers.  People making deals with Satan for youtube followers or some shit.   


Ohh and this thing is fucking stupid, you can go into any retro game store and find a shit ton of copies of this in good condition for 20 - 30 bucks, and they won't set your console on fire.


I could ALMOST see this if it was some updated version with new characters or some crazy shit like that, but this is just stupid.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: Nazi NecroPhile on 08/31/2017, 09:24 AM
Agreed, this is maybe the stupidest game to repro.  I can see paying good money (though $100 is ridiculous) for a repro of a previously unreleased game or a nicely translated RPG, but SFII?!?
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: Gypsy on 08/31/2017, 09:44 AM
And Capcom/iamderpbit think there is $500,000 worth of money in it. LOL.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: Psycho Punch on 08/31/2017, 10:18 AM
The many posts I've made over the years here wishing that companies reissued their games just flashed before my eyes. THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT DAMMIT
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: CrackTiger on 08/31/2017, 11:53 AM
This much worse than Capcom or another classic publisher doing this. It's just another one of these collectard industry companies which makes some extra garbage to repackage goods with, so they can sell it as limited collectors editions.

The fact that Capcom is willing to accept a licensing fee from a bootlegger who is admittedly using parts that they believe will fry your console and burn down your house is what's troubling. Because Capcom will be making much more profit from this than if they were to physically publish an old cart game themselves. If they get paid upfront, then it doesn't matter if this is successful or not, it's going to get every bootlegger and indy publisher applying to license the rights to all kinds of old games and retail them for more than CIB copies currently sell for.

It's easy money for owners of old catalogs that they don't give a shit about.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: xcrement5x on 08/31/2017, 12:51 PM
Quote from: CrackTiger on 08/31/2017, 11:53 AMThis much worse than Capcom or another classic publisher doing this. It's just another one of these collectard industry companies which makes some extra garbage to repackage goods with, so they can sell it as limited collectors editions.

The fact that Capcom is willing to accept a licensing fee from a bootlegger who is admittedly using parts that they believe will fry your console and burn down your house is what's troubling. Because Capcom will be making much more profit from this than if they were to physically publish an old cart game themselves. If they get paid upfront, then it doesn't matter if this is successful or not, it's going to get every bootlegger and indy publisher applying to license the rights to all kinds of old games and retail them for more than CIB copies currently sell for.

It's easy money for owners of old catalogs that they don't give a shit about.
If they actually license it.  Piko Interactive has had some luck getting older IPs licensed but having the company still around makes it a lot easier.  Look at stuff like  older JP groups that go out of business, get sold to another holder, which goes out of business and who knows where the IP still lives. 
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: SignOfZeta on 08/31/2017, 01:02 PM
This is how a lot of weird records get issued. Like, a 45RPM pressing of Peter Gabriel's So with no cover art limited to 500 copies or that surprisingly great audiophile LP version of the Bulitt OST that came out a few years ago. Some companies exist just to reproduce something in different form...which, again, I'm totally fine with it done in a certain way but I don't think this is that.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: seieienbu on 08/31/2017, 01:27 PM
I think this is mostly something that won't make Capcom much money and is just a thing they think is fun to do for the 30th anniversary.  I wouldn't buy it as my old copy is good enough but I personally know a couple of guys already who have already bought it.

As for the youtube idiot?  I am 100% convinced that he bought subs and views.  He's a rumor regurgitator and has a mediocre collection that he stands in front of.  I watched two more of his relatively more popular videos and I don't think that I need to see more.  "I got a Sega Holy Grail!  It's a CDX!"  "I think I'm going for a 32X Complete Set.  I'll do cart only.  I just picked up MK2 and WWF."  I just don't see how anything this guy says is interesting enough to warrant the views/subs.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: Medic_wheat on 08/31/2017, 02:03 PM
Saw this yesterday in my email feed.

It sounds. Different?

However it may cause damage when used or a fire?  And they blame a 30 year old system?

This really isn't for me based on MSRP, potential for damaging my property, and SF II? Not turbo or any other SNES revision of the game but the slow first one that isn't very good?
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: csgx1 on 08/31/2017, 03:15 PM
I'm a huge Street Fighter II fan, but no way I would buy this for any price.   $100 for snes SFII World Warrior repro is insane.  Definitely made specifically for collectards.

Bought the original snes SFII for $80 when released and played the shit out of it until CE/Turbo/SE versions were released.  I can't remember the last time I've played snes SFII World Warrior, but I've never had the urge to play it after better SFII versions/ports came out.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: SignOfZeta on 08/31/2017, 03:17 PM
Yeah, there's a reason this is a one yen game. They made millions and they made two better sequels that also sold millions.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: TR0N on 08/31/2017, 03:19 PM
It's price is a joke but really they picked it over for SFII turbo or even SFII Super !? Id rather play those versions instead then the slow ass of the original SFII.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: NoSexGex on 08/31/2017, 03:46 PM
"make sure there is fire extinguishment equipment nearby"

Yeaah ok :lol:
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: Nazi NecroPhile on 08/31/2017, 04:22 PM
At $100 you'd think they could afford to use the right gear.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: NoSexGex on 08/31/2017, 04:34 PM
Quote from: NecroPhile on 08/31/2017, 04:22 PMAt $100 you'd think they could afford to use the right gear.
Yeah like a fire extinguisher so I don't loose my house playing Street Fighter
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: NoSexGex on 08/31/2017, 04:35 PM
Maybe that's on its way next, Capcom can't surprise me anymore
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: xcrement5x on 08/31/2017, 05:24 PM
Quote from: NoSexGex on 08/31/2017, 04:35 PMMaybe that's on its way next, Capcom can't surprise me anymore
Lol, that's the LE.  It comes bundles with a mini-extinguisher to put out errant hadoukens as well.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: Nazi NecroPhile on 08/31/2017, 05:41 PM
So an extinguisher instead of an energy drink.

To take the place of the rubber stake dildo, I'm hoping it comes (so to speak) with a Chun Li fleshlight.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: Psycho Punch on 08/31/2017, 06:40 PM
Quote from: NecroPhile on 08/31/2017, 05:41 PMTo take the place of the rubber stake dildo, I'm hoping it comes (so to speak) with a Chun Li fleshlight.
Sign me up for this raffle ^^
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: CrackTiger on 08/31/2017, 06:57 PM
Nothing will top the Virtual Cushion ass vibrator when it comes to random fighting game accessories.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: Groover on 08/31/2017, 11:08 PM
This has been bugging me all day. Why pay $100 on a repro cart. This is a very common game. Also I would rather play Turbp. Why not have a 30th anniversary Street Fighter release like Fighting Street for $20 or less. I also have my original copy. I think please that want this are just willing to buy anything.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: Medic_wheat on 08/31/2017, 11:17 PM
Or better yet some sort of re-make newly sported SF whatever iteration game made for SNES hardware with crazy memory on a physical cart for the SNES.

Liven it up.


I'd be throwing fire retardant money so fast.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: TR0N on 09/01/2017, 02:59 AM
Quote from: Medic_wheat on 08/31/2017, 11:17 PMOr better yet some sort of re-make newly sported SF whatever iteration game made for SNES hardware with crazy memory on a physical cart for the SNES.

Liven it up.


I'd be throwing fire retardant money so fast.
Id take the rainbow edition of SFII on a snes  :roll:
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: esteban on 09/01/2017, 06:21 AM
I ordered 5 because I hope to be lucky enough to get the *glow-in-the-dark* version!

The glow-in-the-dark copies will be randomly mixed...

I wanted to order 10 copies but my credit card was declined due to "transaction cannot be processed due to purchaser being a complete and utter fuckwad"...
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: Gypsy on 09/01/2017, 08:12 AM
Sullllld out.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: TheClash603 on 09/01/2017, 08:32 AM
I've been working hard since I got my first job 20 years ago to try to enjoy life a little and I find out today it is this easy to make half a million dollars?  I've been going at life all wrong.

Blood Red Mortal Kombat for Genesis preorders will open up in a separate thread soon.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: o.pwuaioc on 09/01/2017, 08:35 AM
Someone pointed out that they're the same board, meaning they probably just bought up a bunch of SFII carts online and threw away the shell...
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: Johnpv on 09/01/2017, 08:35 AM
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 08/31/2017, 01:02 PMThis is how a lot of weird records get issued. Like, a 45RPM pressing of Peter Gabriel's So with no cover art limited to 500 copies or that surprisingly great audiophile LP version of the Bulitt OST that came out a few years ago. Some companies exist just to reproduce something in different form...which, again, I'm totally fine with it done in a certain way but I don't think this is that.
I honestly think something like this for certain classic titles or harder to find titles would be great. Though it definitely needs to be done right, at a proper price, and you know not risking blowing up your system.  Like do this for Demon's Crest for 60 bucks, or a legit from Konami repressing of Rondo of Blood, I would be all for it.  100 bucks for a common as fuck cart that isn't even made right, WTF at that. 
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: LostFlunky on 09/01/2017, 09:14 AM
Quote from: guest on 09/01/2017, 08:35 AMSomeone pointed out that they're the same board, meaning they probably just bought up a bunch of SFII carts online and threw away the shell...
Delicious!
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: sirhcman on 09/01/2017, 09:17 AM
Don't fret.. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Street-Fighter-II-Super-Nintendo-Entertainment-System-1992-Capcom-/222630686412?hash=item33d5d2aecc:g:Q64AAOSwh3NZfPyw

I saved someone $87.00! Thank me later!
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: bob on 09/01/2017, 10:02 AM
Quote from: guest on 09/01/2017, 09:17 AMDon't fret.. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Street-Fighter-II-Super-Nintendo-Entertainment-System-1992-Capcom-/222630686412?hash=item33d5d2aecc:g:Q64AAOSwh3NZfPyw

I saved someone $87.00! Thank me later!
who would want the original gray cart?  bleh.
the repro has so much kewl shelf candy.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: jperryss on 09/01/2017, 10:13 AM
Quote from: bob on 09/01/2017, 10:02 AM
Quote from: guest on 09/01/2017, 09:17 AMDon't fret.. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Street-Fighter-II-Super-Nintendo-Entertainment-System-1992-Capcom-/222630686412?hash=item33d5d2aecc:g:Q64AAOSwh3NZfPyw

I saved someone $87.00! Thank me later!
who would want the original gray cart?  bleh.
the repro has so much kewl shelf candy.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tamiya-TS-8-Italian-Red-Spray-Paint-Can-3-35-oz-100ml-85008-/232409338644?epid=1801475791&hash=item361cad1314:g:0OQAAOSwx6pYpge5
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: TelcoSurveyor on 09/01/2017, 10:25 AM
My shelf candy portfolio doesn't contain any of these retro gaming investments. I just don't know how to retro properly.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: bob on 09/01/2017, 10:39 AM
Quote from: TelcoSurveyor on 09/01/2017, 10:25 AMMy shelf candy portfolio doesn't contain any of these retro gaming investments. I just don't know how to retro properly.
You need to diversify.  I hope your portfolio is split with heavy weight on short term investments (items to flip/immediate income) vs. long term futures (speculation).  Don't get fooled with extra items being a slice of your futures pie.  When black monday hits this market (and it will), being rich today "on paper" is just going to dilute you later.

That's how you retro
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: csgx1 on 09/01/2017, 12:47 PM
Back in the mid '90s Babbages had brand new SFII World Warrior snes on clearance for $1.99.  I remember the store had boxes of them on the floor underneath the bargain bin.  No one wanted them then and I don't think anyone really cares about World Warrior now.

All this retro/classic collector repro bs is really getting out of hand. 
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: seieienbu on 09/01/2017, 01:35 PM
Quote from: guest on 09/01/2017, 08:35 AMSomeone pointed out that they're the same board, meaning they probably just bought up a bunch of SFII carts online and threw away the shell...
Wait, they're actually are re-using old SF2 games for this shit?!
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: LostFlunky on 09/01/2017, 02:01 PM
Quote from: seieienbu on 09/01/2017, 01:35 PM
Quote from: guest on 09/01/2017, 08:35 AMSomeone pointed out that they're the same board, meaning they probably just bought up a bunch of SFII carts online and threw away the shell...
Wait, they're actually are re-using old SF2 games for this shit?!
Seems really unlikely - 100 maybe - but 5000?  I hope to fuck it is true, but I don't think so...
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: o.pwuaioc on 09/01/2017, 02:59 PM
Quote from: Lost Monkey on 09/01/2017, 02:01 PM
Quote from: seieienbu on 09/01/2017, 01:35 PM
Quote from: guest on 09/01/2017, 08:35 AMSomeone pointed out that they're the same board, meaning they probably just bought up a bunch of SFII carts online and threw away the shell...
Wait, they're actually are re-using old SF2 games for this shit?!
Seems really unlikely - 100 maybe - but 5000?  I hope to fuck it is true, but I don't think so...
Could be a mock up instead of the actual product.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: nopepper on 09/01/2017, 03:18 PM
I am actually surprised at how long it took to sell out.

I think it's only a matter of time until bigger companies start to capitalize on the second hand market. In this case, the game being re-issued is one of the most common and cheap originals, and it still found an audience, so imagine the money to be made when companies start re-releasing games that are fetching high prices, either due to scarcity or demand.

With that said, I wouldn't even pay $10 to add this cartridge to my curated collection, let alone ten times that. But if Sega were to re-release Elemental Master (given they own the IP), or Capcom the original Mega Man for say, $50 MSRP, I would definitely consider it.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: DragonmasterDan on 09/01/2017, 03:28 PM
This isn't like Jaleco or whomever currently holds their IP rights licensing out some company to make collection multi-carts of their games. This is a single overpriced release. Just ridiculous
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: seieienbu on 09/01/2017, 03:31 PM
As interesting as I think that it would be for new releases of old SNES or whatever games to come out, I don't think that there's quite the market for multi-million dollar corporations to start doing it seriously.  Fingers crossed that I get proved wrong and get finally get a copy of Pocky and Rocky or something else I'm missing.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: munchiaz on 09/08/2017, 05:22 PM
This is ridiculous. They could have at least given the collectards Turbo edition.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: cr8zykuban0 on 09/12/2017, 02:01 AM
this is pretty dumb of capcom to charge 100 bucks for this. If this was maybe 30-40 bucks, i'd consider it, but 100??? the fuck outta here!
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: turboswimbz on 09/12/2017, 07:42 PM
Quote from: cr8zykuban0 on 09/12/2017, 02:01 AMthis is pretty dumb of capcom to charge 100 bucks for this. If this was maybe 30-40 bucks, i'd consider it, but 100??? the fuck outta here!
Capcom just licensed it.  they have nothing to do with the release or pricing. Iam8bit is who you want to pissed at.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: Flare65 on 09/18/2017, 10:54 AM
I have absolutely zero interest in this...and I don't get the hype around it, other than the statement that it may catch fire???

Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: Winniez on 09/19/2017, 08:47 PM
This cart is just taking the piss seriously. But its an interesting nevertheless, this has to be one of the first times there is an official licensed/manufactured repro cart for a retro system. I wonder if we'll see more these sort of things in the future.
The very least I would have expected (besides a lower price) is an updated version of the game in the lines of the Switch port, something meaningfully unique software wise. Any version of SF2 is literally max 500yen cart for Super Famicom. Alpha is a different matter but we are talking about SF2.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: KnightWarrior on 09/30/2017, 07:21 PM
If you want a Red or a Clear Green Shell

Just buy 2 SFII Games and put it in the Shell
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: jlued686 on 09/30/2017, 07:43 PM
Quote from: turboswimbz on 09/12/2017, 07:42 PM
Quote from: cr8zykuban0 on 09/12/2017, 02:01 AMthis is pretty dumb of capcom to charge 100 bucks for this. If this was maybe 30-40 bucks, i'd consider it, but 100??? the fuck outta here!
Capcom just licensed it.  they have nothing to do with the release or pricing. Iam8bit is who you want to pissed at.
Yep. Fuck iam8bit. They're stuff is always absurdly priced and their customer service is dogshit.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: Arkhan Asylum on 09/30/2017, 07:51 PM
and they drink pee
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: jlued686 on 09/30/2017, 09:19 PM
Totally.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: CrackTiger on 10/02/2017, 12:18 AM
Quote from: KnightWarrior on 09/30/2017, 07:21 PMIf you want a Red or a Clear Green Shell

Just buy 2 SFII Games and put it in the Shell
But the original won't burn your house down.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: pressed on 10/05/2017, 05:59 PM
I saw a completed sold listing on eBay for one of these at $475, so maybe buying to resell would be a good call. Even if it makes you a scalper, but this is already a ridiculous item.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: Arkhan Asylum on 10/05/2017, 11:02 PM
Quote from: pressed on 10/05/2017, 05:59 PMI saw a completed sold listing on eBay for one of these at $475, so maybe buying to resell would be a good call. Even if it makes you a scalper, but this is already a ridiculous item.
you should disable your internet for awhile.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: seieienbu on 10/05/2017, 11:15 PM
Quote from: pressed on 10/05/2017, 05:59 PMWowee!  I can buy something I don't want and sell it to make a profit!  That makes me smart!
No, that mindset makes you the biggest problem with retro gaming.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: PukeSter on 10/06/2017, 12:00 AM
What is it about Nintendo fanboys that makes them so obsessed with buying everything?

Don't even get me started on all the people who say "____ is perfect for the switch" and blow their wallet open sperging over $70 controllers and mediocre games like Snipperclips and Arms. Playstation fans certainly don't act like this.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: SignOfZeta on 10/06/2017, 01:44 AM
Quote from: PukeSter on 10/06/2017, 12:00 AMWhat is it about Nintendo fanboys that makes them so obsessed with buying everything?

Don't even get me started on all the people who say "____ is perfect for the switch" and blow their wallet open sperging over $70 controllers and mediocre games like Snipperclips and Arms. Playstation fans certainly don't act like this.
There can't possibly be Playstation fans, are there? Outside of Japan?

To possibly answer your question; Sony just makes black boxes and maybe some Gran Turismo or Crash Bandicoot bullshit once in a while. That isn't going to get you the kind of fans that Mario RPG or the Mother series will. Being a fan of Playstation is like being a fan of cardboard. Cardboard is really great, but nobody is a "fan" of it.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: Gredler on 10/06/2017, 02:25 AM
Quote from: PukeSter on 10/06/2017, 12:00 AMWhat is it about Nintendo fanboys that makes them so obsessed with buying everything?

Don't even get me started on all the people who say "____ is perfect for the switch" and blow their wallet open sperging over $70 controllers and mediocre games like Snipperclips and Arms. Playstation fans certainly don't act like this.
I haven't played arms but I am curious as as to what makes it mediocre. I have and played all of snipper clippers and loved it. It's not a system seller, but I certainly got 20$ of good times out of it. It's a great crowd pleaser for casual family members too.

The $70 controllers are indefensible, though.


I don't think this is a Nintendo fanboy issue, it's a collector issue. This is not for anyone who wants to play the game, obviously. Shelf candy, to each their own, this is not for me but let he who has not bought dumb useless stuff throw the first cartridge ;p
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: bartre on 10/06/2017, 03:36 AM
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 10/06/2017, 01:44 AMThere can't possibly be Playstation fans, are there? Outside of Japan?

To possibly answer your question; Sony just makes black boxes and maybe some Gran Turismo or Crash Bandicoot bullshit once in a while. That isn't going to get you the kind of fans that Mario RPG or the Mother series will. Being a fan of Playstation is like being a fan of cardboard. Cardboard is really great, but nobody is a "fan" of it.
There definitely are, but they seem to be a different breed, partially for the reasons you stated.
I would also point out that playstation as a brand has nothing that has stuck around nearly as long as mario/zelda/metroid/star fox/etc.
but I don't think that it's necessarily a bad thing, I'd put some value on knowing when to stop.

but maybe that statement was less true before they showed off the new god of war, that would be the 4th platform to get an original game.

Really though, I'd say that it's less of a Playstation as a brand thing and more of a Playstation as a platform thing.
i.e. Nintendo fans are brand fans, which is why you see Nintendo brand products outside of Nintendo gaming products that are very successful.  But for Playstation, you don't see nearly as much non gaming products, and the ones you do see are comparatively less successful.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: sirhcman on 10/06/2017, 09:15 AM
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 10/06/2017, 01:44 AMThere can't possibly be Playstation fans, are there? Outside of Japan?

To possibly answer your question; Sony just makes black boxes and maybe some Gran Turismo or Crash Bandicoot bullshit once in a while. That isn't going to get you the kind of fans that Mario RPG or the Mother series will. Being a fan of Playstation is like being a fan of cardboard. Cardboard is really great, but nobody is a "fan" of it.
You mean the same Crash Bandicoot that is on Xbox consoles and even Nintendo consoles?! Crash Bandicoot isn't a Sony IP. If you think that is all Sony has to offer than I would say you aren't up to date on their games or current console offerings (and this is coming from someone who doesn't care for Sony).



Quote from: bartre on 10/06/2017, 03:36 AMReally though, I'd say that it's less of a Playstation as a brand thing and more of a Playstation as a platform thing.
i.e. Nintendo fans are brand fans, which is why you see Nintendo brand products outside of Nintendo gaming products that are very successful.  But for Playstation, you don't see nearly as much non gaming products, and the ones you do see are comparatively less successful.
bartre I totally agree!
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: Gypsy on 10/06/2017, 09:34 AM
Zeta hates new games, so he probably doesn't pay much attention to them.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: Nazi NecroPhile on 10/06/2017, 09:37 AM
The Gospel According to Zeta: Only the great Nintendo ever does anything desirable, fun, profitable, etc.  All other gaming companies are miserable failures.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: Arkhan Asylum on 10/06/2017, 12:15 PM
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 10/06/2017, 01:44 AMThere can't possibly be Playstation fans, are there? Outside of Japan?
RIGHT HERE BITCH

RIGHT.
HERE.

OG PSX OR DIEEEEEEEEEEEE


I don't even use dual shocks.   Dual Shocks are for pussies.

Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: DragonmasterDan on 10/06/2017, 01:58 PM
Quote from: Gypsy on 10/06/2017, 09:34 AMZeta hates new games, so he probably doesn't pay much attention to them.
I agree with the basic pont here which is that Nintendo develops and cultivates franchises that people come to Nintendo platforms for again and again. Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Pokemon, Kirby, the list goes on and on. Nintendo has fans in part because their fans of the franchises and properties that Nintendo owns/co-owns and releases on their platforms.

Sony only has a handful of franchises that are regulars or have big fan bases, Gran Turismo, God of War and then what? We haven't seen much of Little Big Planet recently.. Parappa is long gone. Even Microsoft has Halo, Gears of War and some properties that have their own fairly large fan bases.  Sony doesn't have the same identity, it's a big black box you play third party games on.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: sirhcman on 10/06/2017, 02:31 PM
Quote from: DragonmasterDan on 10/06/2017, 01:58 PMSony only has a handful of franchises that are regulars or have big fan bases, Gran Turismo, God of War and then what?
Uncharted and Last of Us are the two big Sony franchises that I think about when exclusives come up. I see where Zeta is coming from now after DragonmasterDan decoded some of the message for me :)
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: DragonmasterDan on 10/06/2017, 02:52 PM
Quote from: guest on 10/06/2017, 02:31 PMUncharted and Last of Us are the two big Sony franchises that I think about when exclusives come up. I see where Zeta is coming from now after DragonmasterDan decoded some of the message for me :)
Uncharted I'll give you.

But The Last of Us?
 I know there's a higher res version on PS4 but are there any other games in the series thus far? Otherwise you have a single game released multiple times. I know there's 4 main Uncharted plus a Vita one (maybe more games).
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: Arkhan Asylum on 10/06/2017, 03:16 PM
last of us was shit.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: Nazi NecroPhile on 10/06/2017, 03:27 PM
You asked 'which franchises have several titles or have big fan bases'.  Last of Us certainly meets the latter.

Go ahead and change your argument to "nothing else compares to Nintendo because nothing else has Mario, Kirby, Metroid, etc."  :roll:
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: DragonmasterDan on 10/06/2017, 03:41 PM
Quote from: NecroPhile on 10/06/2017, 03:27 PMYou asked 'which franchises have several titles or have big fan bases'.  Last of Us certainly meets the latter.

Go ahead and change your argument to "nothing else compares to Nintendo because nothing else has Mario, Kirby, Metroid, etc."  :roll:
I'm more of questioning if one game and a remake of said game is enough to establish it as a consistent franchise. I'm well aware it has a fan base.
 
Like I consider Skies of Arcadia to be a game with a big fan base, and it too has an original game and a slightly upgraded remake. But is it a franchise?

In this context the definition of Franchise is a general title or concept used for creating or marketing a series of products . I'm not sure one product and a slightly improved version of that product constitutes a series.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: sirhcman on 10/06/2017, 04:15 PM
Quote from: DragonmasterDan on 10/06/2017, 02:52 PM
Quote from: guest on 10/06/2017, 02:31 PMUncharted and Last of Us are the two big Sony franchises that I think about when exclusives come up. I see where Zeta is coming from now after DragonmasterDan decoded some of the message for me :)
Uncharted I'll give you.

But The Last of Us?
 I know there's a higher res version on PS4 but are there any other games in the series thus far? Otherwise you have a single game released multiple times. I know there's 4 main Uncharted plus a Vita one (maybe more games).
after we discussed it in DoxPhile chat I read that there is a sequel coming out (release date unknown)
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: Nazi NecroPhile on 10/06/2017, 04:59 PM
Yeah, I guess a sequel doesn't count.  Nobody is allowed to like it until it's released and there's at least eight other games.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: DragonmasterDan on 10/06/2017, 05:03 PM
Quote from: NecroPhile on 10/06/2017, 04:59 PMYeah, I guess a sequel doesn't count.  Nobody is allowed to like it until it's released and there's at least eight other games.
I wasn't aware a sequel was in the works.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: pressed on 10/06/2017, 05:04 PM
Quote from: Psycho Arkhan on 10/05/2017, 11:02 PM
Quote from: pressed on 10/05/2017, 05:59 PMI saw a completed sold listing on eBay for one of these at $475, so maybe buying to resell would be a good call. Even if it makes you a scalper, but this is already a ridiculous item.
you should disable your internet for awhile.
Resellers are a$$holes, I agree, what I said was in bad taste.  I was just pointing out that if someone was crazy enough to spend $100 on it, it's even more ridiculous that someone would pay above that.  I am not in the reseller game personally, and I didn't get the game anyway.  I feel like most of these are going to just sit on shelves collecting dust. 
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: pressed on 10/06/2017, 05:06 PM
Quote from: seieienbu on 10/05/2017, 11:15 PM
Quote from: pressed on 10/05/2017, 05:59 PMWowee!  I can buy something I don't want and sell it to make a profit!  That makes me smart!
No, that mindset makes you the biggest problem with retro gaming.
Totally agree. I don't have one, nor will I ever. 
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: SignOfZeta on 10/06/2017, 05:39 PM
Quote from: Psycho Arkhan on 10/06/2017, 12:15 PM
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 10/06/2017, 01:44 AMThere can't possibly be Playstation fans, are there? Outside of Japan?
RIGHT HERE BITCH

RIGHT.
HERE.

OG PSX OR DIEEEEEEEEEEEE


I don't even use dual shocks.   Dual Shocks are for pussies.
Liking the PS1 doesn't make you a "fan of the PlayStation". It just means you like good stuff. The PS1 in particular has an almost infinite software selection, more than a person could ever need. The first system had a real identity as a consumer product too, cool design, shapes for buttons, etc.

But if your fandom is that restrained you prove my point. You aren't a fan of...aparently anything PlayStation after late 1997. That doesn't make you much of a fan.

I have PS1, 2, 3 as well as PSP and Vita. I've purchased and played more games for these systems than I have for anything else post Sega/SNK. I'm still not a fan. There's nothing to be a fan of. I use it as an appliance to play 3rd party software. I actually hate almost every single thing about the UI, the store, etc I just need the PlayStation for the same reason one needs socks or gasoline or a ball point pen.

Imagine if NEC had released a game system without Hudson's involvement. That's the PlayStation.

The question asked was "why are Nintendo fans so much crazier than fans of other systems" and the answer was is not "because Nintendo rules" rather it's that there are no fans like that for Sony and MS. There kinda are for Sega and SNK but nowhere near as many and right now the most dysfunctional but monied generation lands right in Nintendo land. America's mental illness combined with Nintendo's yummy candy...they eat each other up.

What's Sony going to offer to these sad bastards? I know you're depressed, here's some inhuman monster ripping out some guy's spine? Here's cars you can't afford? Here's a controler that is so blatantly ripped off from our competition, and such a huge flop, that we should have printed an apology on the box? Maybe, but a lot of these people just want to hang out in the Forest with Animals or cry after finishing Earthbound for the 90th time. Sony isn't in that business, they don't have the same customers. Different fandoms behave differently.

It's like comparing fans of record labels. Factory, Blue Note, Quannum, Mobile Fidelity, Dischord...why do they have so many more fans than K-tel or for that matter Sony? Because it's a dumb question. Think about it. It's the same reason cool people have more friends.
Title: Re: A 100$ fucking SNES SF2 repro
Post by: Arkhan Asylum on 10/06/2017, 06:01 PM
Yeah I only buy Playstation because thats where all the JRPGs went.

If it didn't have all the niche-y JRPGs, it would serve basically no purpose to me.

PS1 on the other hand...............