OMG! ZIRIA! ZIRIA!! ZIRIA!!! IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED!! 34 YEARS LATER!! The epic/legendary Tengai Makyou/Far East of Eden: Ziria JRPG has finally been localized! Supper the Subtitler struck again! Simply unstoppable, NOTHING can prevent him from TOTAL PCECD localization domination!!!! WHACHA GONNA DO BROTHER?!?!
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#1
I beat Exile 2 back in the day. It just feels like an unfinished game. Or rushed. Even broken in many ways. It's a turd in my opinion, and much better can be reproduced.

I'm not entirely sure what has been done yet, or even what is possible. But I agree with the sylphia comment. It's a good game, that sells fro way more that what it's really worth. I would also love an Ys IV translation if it has not been done.

Also...

Faussete Amour
Nexzr (not that summer carnival crap)
Spriggan
Cotton
Rainbow Islands
Chiki Chiki Boys
Renny Blaster (a last pic cause it sucks.)
#2
Those look really nice. If I still had my copy I would jump all over this.
#3
Good job bro! Glad things are finally looking up.
#4
Quote from: WoodyXP on 11/22/2015, 12:38 PMHori Fighting Stick PC is my controller of choice for all games.  If I feel like using  a pad I go with the Hori Fighting Commander or RX Pad.
This.

The Hori fighting commander is great.

6 buttons, and had a SNES style D-Pad, and SNES style " A B " buttons.
#5
Last I looked last year, this seemed like an impossible doing. I appreciate this project, especially the nice printed translations.
#6
Aoi means Blue in Japanese.
#7
Yeah,  good job man! I've been too busy with school to do anything.
#8
Quote from: esteban on 07/03/2015, 06:50 AM
Quote from: greedostick on 07/02/2015, 11:55 PM
Quote from: guest on 07/02/2015, 12:51 PMOther than the price and it being a bit too goofy looking, what's wrong with Tonma?
It's a good game, but like Splatterhouse, it's pointless to purchase it when there is a far superior arcade version.
No, that doesn't make any sense. These games are fun, in and of themselves. These games exist and deserve some respect.

WARNING: Rant Incoming :) You know I love you. This rant is directed at everyone in the cosmos, not you, specifically. You are just the messenger. :)

THE MYTH OF PURITY
Fun and "purity" are *not* mutually exclusive. Yet, many folks flatly state that "X version is superior to Y version", thus X is the only one worth one's time.

According to this mentality, all you need is "the purest form of a game"...which is bullshite because I HAVE AN APPETITE FOR ALL PERMUTATIONS OF A GAME. Why? Because fun/entertainment has many forms and variations. And *appreciating* something might actually be an existential experience: how do you *REALLY* know what the "purest form" of a game truly is unless you have played them all for yourself? 

Also, shouldn't the "purest form" of a game be based on what YOU PERSONALLY value and love? The consensus of elite experts might be based upon criteria that you might not necessarily agree with. Also, what is a consensus? What is an expert? What is love? Why ask why?*

I agree that if a console port was FUNDAMENTALLY BROKEN, you** might not want to spend time playing it.

* Drink Bud Dry

* I would still play it, of course :) Not simply because I am a masochist, but because playing video games is a fundamentally existential proposition. Yes, I went there. Yes, I take this too seriously. Yes, I was kind to you and didn't equate your "quest for purity" with a eugenicist's quest for purity. Don't worry, I have already equated the folks who want "absolutely pure video signals" with eugenicists. I am only half-joking when I say the desire for purity, in any form, comes from the same starting point...one of the key challenges in life, then, is how you handle this quest for purity in a fair, honest and moral manner. Oh, you thought I was joking when I said that playing video games was existential? No, I wasn't. Now stop bothering me so I can continue enjoying  Metal Gear (NES).
I understand where you are coming from. There are some games I like to play the arcade version, and the console version. Ghosts n goblins on nes for example. But for the most part I only want to play the best version of a game. I completely understand your reasoning, but my reasoning is that the time in my life is limited, there are already far too many games that I want to complete that I know in my life time will not be completed, so I prefer to play only the best versions of games, in order to fit in other games, because time is limited.
#9
cool! Glad to see this finally was figured out. I will play the game later this week, and see if I can complete it now.
#10
Quote from: guest on 07/02/2015, 12:51 PMOther than the price and it being a bit too goofy looking, what's wrong with Tonma?
It's a good game, but like Splatterhouse, it's pointless to purchase it when there is a far superior arcade version.
#11
I ordered from game dude many many many years ago, and everything had video store style game dude stickers on them that were impossible to remove. I'm not sure if they still do that, but I would inquire if that sort of thing bothers you.
#12
PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: RGB
05/17/2015, 12:57 AM
Keith never did a RGB mod for me, but he did do a complete briefcase unit for me about a year ago. He was very professional and was willing to work with me. He is a great guy. He worked fast too. It's always nice not waiting 4 months for a mod.
#13
I'm going to email that douche-tard right now.
#14
Quote from: clackattack on 12/22/2014, 11:21 AMThats why my opinion would be to make a venture toward making some really nice looking discs that are BLANK with NO files on them whatsoever to male/distribute amongst the forum, then just leave it to the buying party to put whatever they want on the disc. I know a lot of folks on here are against "burnt" discs and while I totally agree that a true, pressed disc is the way to go, it seems like there is gonna be too many hoops to jump through to make that possible.
Quote from: clackattack on 12/22/2014, 11:21 AMThats why my opinion would be to make a venture toward making some really nice looking discs that are BLANK with NO files on them whatsoever to male/distribute amongst the forum, then just leave it to the buying party to put whatever they want on the disc. I know a lot of folks on here are against "burnt" discs and while I totally agree that a true, pressed disc is the way to go, it seems like there is gonna be too many hoops to jump through to make that possible.
That's a good idea. But I think lots of people would mess up their burns. But still,  I would be for that. But I imagine people here will freak that it says ys. It's going to happen one way or another,  it's a matter of when some random guy takes it into his own hands and starts selling them on eBay without anyone's consent.
#15
Quote from: guest on 12/22/2014, 12:25 AM
Quote from: greedostick on 12/21/2014, 11:32 PMAlso for the record,  I said I don't care either way what happens. I may not be a lawyer but I am far from an idiot. I have 5.5 years college under my belt. I've taken differential equations, thermodynamics, and and many other high level math/physics/ health care courses. So take your attitude and stick it up your rear end.  This is a discussion,  no reason to get all pissy. So just calm down.
Sorry to rip on you, greedo. It's no fault of yours, but I tire of the short-term memory of internet forums. You're not an idiot. I'm sorry.
Anyway, releasing a patch by itself may be legal EDIT: nevermind, see spenoza,

but bundling it with a game in any form breaks two of the monopolies held by the copyright holder: 1) derivative works, 2) distribution.
No hard feelings for sure my friend. I think people sometimes forget forums are discussions, where debates happen.

I think we can all agree that the risk is virtually nill, and some people need to decide if a risk equivalent to that of Jay walking is worth taking or not. I'm guessing not. Or redo the parts in question. Or Continue to let fans get raped and profited off of from those who print up stuff like turbo memories. It might not happen now, but eventually someone down the road is going to print ys, and Dracula x, and flip them on eBay.

I for one hope these companies see threads like this. I'm guessing they do,  but just don't care.  Then I hope they realize there is a demand still, and if it's not profitable for them, to let the fans take it in their own hands. I have said it before,  and I will say it again,  these Japanese game companies just don't care about the American fan base. Never have never will. The new 3ds dragon Quest games are a token example. Never going to happen, because if they don't see $$$ it's just not worth it. The same applies to these illegal pressing like turbo memories,  and the massive boat load of square Enix snes repros on eBay.

If it wasn't for certain important people,  these games would be lost forever,  Panzer Dragoon Saga is a prime example of how much these companies just don't give a shit.

It is our God damn duty as passionate gamers, law or no law,  to keep these games backed up in rom and iso format, and translate if need be for future generations to enjoy in digital or media format hundreds of years from now. Cause these companies are not going to do it. So many things in history have went unrecorded,  and lost. Video games I hope will never be one of those things.
#16
Quote from: guest on 12/21/2014, 11:16 PM+1 to everything Bonknuts said. All of you people who've only been here for a few years need to listen up because this topic has been discussed before and it's not going to work. There should be a sticky or something.

Unlike most naysayers, I'm all against non-profit repressing. That said, don't come around here trying to get a "community blessing" or something. Quietly sound out your supporters and do it off-forum like Fudoh or whatever did or just scrape up a few hundred dollars and do it yourself. It's not that hard.

Public discussion is a bad idea. Consider:
1) talking about ROMs and ISOs is a ban-able offense, you idiots. For better or worse this forum isn't public space. Aaron owns it and pays the fees. So... if talking about ISO's is against the rules, then you can bet your ass he doesn't want you pirating and selling physical discs via the forum. (Yeah, I know swearing is discouraged too. Sue me).

2) PCEFX has official industry connections. In 2007, PCEFX was Hudson's OFFICIAL home of TurboGrafx news for the VirtualConsole. These forums are something of an institution that has attracted official attention in the past and Aaron may want to make such agreements again in the future. Don't shit in the pool. Move all pirating talk over to the chatbox on that other site or something.

3) the internet is filled with petty, bean-counting tattletales that will rat you out. Strangely, they don't bat an eyelash if someone starts selling nice repros like the overpriced PCE boxset, but if anyone dares open up a discussion about a business venture, then there's hell to pay. Several years ago a guy posted here that he bought the TG16 Marble Madness prototype and might consider sharing it. There was some interest, but then the Forgotten-IP-Corporation-Protection Trolls showed up and ran the guy out of town because they just could live with the thought of someone paying money for an unlicensed ROM. Also remember the independent release of Faceball on the Virtualboy was shitcanned because of forum pussies threatening to alert the IP holder.

4) while I'm not concerned with a tiny, non-profit release of an extinct corporation's thirty-year-old IP, we have to respect the handful of our peers who take the time out of their days to bring us new ports and translations for free. If the Ys IV team doesn't want their shit being pressed, that's the end of the argument. Suck it up and play a burned disc on a hacked Xbox or something. I can't believe people are still whining about this.

Quote from: greedostick on 12/21/2014, 02:03 PMMaking a translation is not illegal. Just frowned upon by game dev companies. There is zero percent chance of persecution in any way,  shape,  or form, unless you are the one selling the Cdr's for profit.
It's totally illegal, but I'm so sick of arguing copyright law with idiots on the internet that I'm not even going to start.
Please, show me a statute that states making a English patch for a video game is illegal. It's not the same as translating a novel. A patch is not a copy of the actual game, like a book would be. I would love to see proof. Like I said before I am not 100% certain of the real law,   but from my advice from a real lawyer, is that it is probably not. There's a huge difference between ys iv, and some patch someone is creating for a game just released last month in Japan. Those C&D's are issued because a English translation is on the way

Also for the record,  I said I don't care either way what happens. I may not be a lawyer but I am far from an idiot. I have 5.5 years college under my belt. I've taken differential equations, thermodynamics, and and many other high level math/physics/ health care courses. So take your attitude and stick it up your rear end.  This is a discussion,  no reason to get all pissy. So just calm down.

Thanks.
#17
You sure about that?  I just asked my girlfriend (a lawyer),  and although she States it's not her expertise, a English patch she said sounds like reverse engineering, and something about fair copyright act.
#18
Quote from: Duo_R on 12/21/2014, 09:52 PMThe Latest Turbo Duo Memories collection has Dynastic Hero, Dungeon Exp II, Bonk 3 and Godzilla. Maybe something else? Those collections may seem pricey but they are really nice.
Yeah the thing is they are far too expensive to justify purchasing, especially when factoring in I am forced to buy godzilla, which I don't want, and dungeon Explorer 2, which I already own. Plus they seem to sell out fast.

I think the appeal of a project like this, is that people are tired of being dicked over by some guy banking 500% profit.

I do appreciate you looking out though, I just don't think that set is for me. I only collect games I feel are worth owning, and don't want to feel like I am being forced to buy,  and shelve games I will never play.
#19
Quote from: wolfman on 12/21/2014, 06:41 PMDo a combined run of a  C.O.M.P.L.E.T.E.

Beyond Shadowgate
Might & Magic 3
Bonk 3

and I am sure not only me but half of our community will be more than grateful for your time and energy involved in this.

Count me in on this as well.
And Dynastic Hero. We could do them in groups of 3 or 4. We could do a rpg lot, then a shmup lot,  etc..
I for one would be grateful, and would he more than willing to donate some cash for time spent getting things in order.
#20
Quote from: guest on 12/21/2014, 01:56 PMHonestly, if we're talking about whether something should be pressed or not, I think a "No" answer should always carry more weight than a "Yes" answer. If even one person on a team thinks "No, this is inappropriate," then it shouldn't happen. Period. Every member of that team should have veto power. Something should only happen if everyone is on board, unless there is some kind of contract stating who specifically has decision-making power.

We know that translation work is relatively safe territory, but when you move up to a formal, pressed release, that exposes all parties involved to greater risk, and any individual should have the right to shut that down and opt out of being exposed to that greater risk.

I realize it makes things a lot more difficult to accomplish that way, but I think safe is better than sorry.
Making a translation is not illegal. Just frowned upon by game dev companies. There is zero percent chance of persecution in any way,  shape,  or form, unless you are the one selling the Cdr's for profit. That is why there is confusion. Because it makes no sense why one would be paranoid regarding the issue. I could manufacture thousand of copies and start selling them tomorrow through a website. Do you think Falcom would file a case against me or lasagna?  They would not care what they did,  because I would be the one making profit.

If lasagna is scared to be on a pressed copy,  then his concerns are mute,  because the distributor would be at fault. But again,  these are for non-profit. Not much that could be done.
#21
Quote from: esteban on 12/21/2014, 08:54 AM
Quote from: greedostick on 12/21/2014, 01:13 AMIf these companies are not going to give us what we want, then we will do it ourselves, and keep these games alive for future generations to enjoy.

OK, I got a bit off topic there. But you all know what I mean.
Comrade: if you want to enjoy a fan translation/dub,  you can. But you don't need a pressed CD to do so.

And if you *really* can't deal with a "sharpie marker" (oh the great injustice!):

https://www.tg-16.com/print_your_own_stuff.htm

IMG

Personally, I am grateful for any translation/dub that simply *exists*...using a sharpie on a CD-R hardly seems the "great injustice" in comparison.

If you *insist* that you *must* have a pressed CD, then you are missing the entire spirit of the project

I still love you :)
I don't care either way. I merely stating why people want professional looking copies. It would be cool to have one, but if it never happens I wouldn't mind.
#22
This is a huge mess for sure. I guess we just need to respect Lasanga's request, and let you all settle your differences in a fair manner before moving forward. It would be nice if Lasagna would chime in and explain his stance on the situation. Hopefully he doesn't just come in with a one liner and provides some information.

I still however do not see what his deal is with the pressings. First, he is against something he has already done. That is taking someone's product, and doing something with it that is not what the original author would have wanted most likely. I mean, I doubt he got written consent from Falcom. Now I do respect the work Lasagna, and the others put forth in making the translation, but it seems kind of hypocritical to be against using the work he done, in a manner not intended, when he is guilty himself. It also seems completely ignorant that he never saw this coming. I mean it sounds like he is a game collector, and would understand people don't want crappy CDR's with black sharpie text on them.

I am not sure if he is afraid of being tied to the project if they were mass produced, in fear of getting into trouble. But that really seems like a unlikely occurrence that he would ever be sued. We are talking about creating a pressing of a never released in America CD for personal use without intent to distribute. And even if it was distributed he would not be at fault just because he made a translation. Besides, it is no worse then burning your own copy even if you do own the original. It is a myth that if you make a backup of a game you own it is not illegal. It most certainly is. Falcom will never pursue a case against anyone even if they did mass distribute this patch online in a professional pressed form. Look at all the reproduction copies of Square Enix games for Super Nintendo on eBay, and the dozens of sites that are dedicated to selling reproductions. It's been going on for years. If Square Enix isn't going to do anything, neither is Falcom.

In all honesty his concerns seem more like paranoia. We are talking about the equivalent of jay-walking in digital form. I understand his stance on owning the actual game and making a personal copy, but it is still illegal and not any better than pressing one up right. People should buy classic games, but still that stance makes little sense. These companies are still not making any money off of these games, and the bottom line is that they do not care about the American audience, so we take it into our own hands.

What's going to happen in 50 years or so when other generations want to enjoy these games? They will be disc-rotted, and non-functional. This is simply the way these classic games are going because it is inevitable that one day they will no longer work. We are simply the pioneers of an era coming in the next 50-100 years. People will look back and be grateful people like you guys did stuff like this, and make Everdrives, and clone consoles, and design custom reproduction boards for snes games.

If these companies are not going to give us what we want, then we will do it ourselves, and keep these games alive for future generations to enjoy.

OK, I got a bit off topic there. But you all know what I mean.
#23
Quote from: guest on 12/18/2014, 10:16 AMWhy not both versions?  A second disc would add less than $2 per unit.
That's a damn good idea!

I really I wish we could get a Far East of Eden 2, translation. It was voted as one of Famitsu's top games of all time.  It has to be awesome.

So is this lasagna fella currently working on a project?  It seems like since he's so again pressing his translation with threat of never doing another one again,  that maybe he is up to something. I would be curious what he's doing now,  or has planned for the future.

##Edit

Found his translation project page located conveniently in his signature. Spriggan translation = pretty awesome
#24
I would be interested in contributing. I do not understand Lasagna's reasoning for not wanting the  Y's translation pressed for the die-hard turbo fans to enjoy. Emulators are shitty, and not a ideal way to play a game. I would think he would understand that is why people want it done. A shitty CDR pressing from a home PC just isn't the same. I wouldn't see the harm if it was just for the people here to enjoy, and not flip on eBay. But I do respect the guys wishes and am against it if he is.

Is he currently working on a project? Or have a project page? I would like to see what he's working on right now.

As for the other games. Basically any game that commands over $150.00 I would be down for, because that is the point I really decide not to throw down the cash unless a game is damn near perfect. There are a lot of average games that are way too expensive to justify a purchase.

I would be interested in the following.

Dynastic Hero
Beyond Shadowgate
Renny Blaster
Sylphia
Bonk 3
Nexzr
Chiki Chiki Boys

I highly doubt anyone will ever give 2 shits about any of these games, especially if it is just for forum members here and there is not a mass website funneling these making profit off of these. I actually don't know if they could even prosecute if there is no intent to distribute for profit. My girlfriend is a lawyer, I will ask her about this.

No one is going to care about these games, or us, the fans for that matter. If they did care they would find a way to get these re-released. I guess Dynastic Hero is the exception there. But it's getting ridiculous on eBay.
#25
Quote from: guest on 12/07/2014, 11:01 AM
Quote from: guest on 12/06/2014, 11:55 PM
Quote from: guest on 12/06/2014, 01:49 PMI would like to see how many votes Ninja Spirit would get if the requirement for voting for it is clearing the game without cheating.
How does one cheat in Ninja Spirit?  Are you talking about the Level Select code?
The last stage has you jump down a long pit of ninjas that kill you in one or two hits. Most people find it to be impossible. It's the kind of thing that would be called broken or game-ruining in other titles.

You can just skip the whole section by pulling in one direction or something.
Ahhh, it's all coming back to me. I remember that part. It was a bitch. But I remember finally making it through. There is a really simple way I figured out. But I can't remember. I might have to go back and play this game. I don't remember the last boss at all.

@ Esteban - Are you saying the CD version of R-Type is not considered as good? I just assumed it was. Is it because of the music? I thought it would be better.
#26
Quote from: johnnykonami on 12/07/2014, 02:25 AM
Quote from: greedostick on 12/07/2014, 02:13 AM
Quote from: esteban on 12/07/2014, 02:05 AMI don't consider Ninja Spirit that hard. Once you have a few powerups, you are so powerful...

But, I've played the game to death. On PCE mode.

That doesn't mean I don't get my butt handed to me in other games, though. Like R-Type. I still get smacked around by R-Type.
That's because R-Type is cheap as fuck. I remember spending all day, like 10 hours, multiple times growing up trying to beat R-Type on Master System. Never beat it. It is one of the very few games on my list that I could never complete that I must get revenge upon. Right up there with Soloman's Key and Fester's Quest. And I consider myself pretty damn good at video games. I have beat all the Ninja Gaiden's and all the Ghosts n' Goblins games, Battletoads etc..., among many other games considered hard, and R-Type is one of the toughest.

Dragon Spirit is cheap as hell too.
I beat the TG-16 version of R-Type once when I was a kid.  I think it always seemed like a chore to try to do it again, so I usually played up to level 3 (the Battleship) and beat that and just stopped there because that was pretty much my favorite level.  Tough game though, certainly.  You were always getting nailed by some stray bullet.  Conversely, I remember I loved playing through Ordyne because it was so damn easy in comparison.  I beat that game dozens of times, and it was probably my most played shooter up until I got my Turboduo and Gate of Thunder.  You know the rest after that!  If you can beat battletoads (which is a bunch of bullshit mainly due to poor programming and design), the GnG series, and Ninja Gaiden, you have more than enough skill to stick out R-Type to the end, so go for it!
R-Type will succumb to my gaming skills one of these days.  One of the next games on my list is R-Type Complete CD. So I will be investing some serious time into it this winter. Battletoads really isn't that hard. It's just memorizing all the racing and that snake level. Those are the only really annoying parts. Especially the unicycle level. But the worst is The Dark Queens Tower. It rotates while you jump and is pretty cheap.

Viva LA Dragon's Crush!
#27
Quote from: esteban on 12/07/2014, 02:05 AMI don't consider Ninja Spirit that hard. Once you have a few powerups, you are so powerful...

But, I've played the game to death. On PCE mode.

That doesn't mean I don't get my butt handed to me in other games, though. Like R-Type. I still get smacked around by R-Type.
That's because R-Type is cheap as fuck. I remember spending all day, like 10 hours, multiple times growing up trying to beat R-Type on Master System. Never beat it. It is one of the very few games on my list that I could never complete that I must get revenge upon. Right up there with Soloman's Key and Fester's Quest. And I consider myself pretty damn good at video games. I have beat all the Ninja Gaiden's and all the Ghosts n' Goblins games, Battletoads etc..., among many other games considered hard, and R-Type is one of the toughest.

Dragon Spirit is cheap as hell too.
#28
Quote from: guest on 12/07/2014, 12:11 AM
Quote from: greedostick on 12/07/2014, 12:09 AMMy last 4 picks are still going strong. I assume Dragons "Crush" is Dragon's Curse, and some sort of shady tactic in hopes people won't pick it thinking it's pinball.

But I took a change because it's still THE BEST HU-CARD EVER!!!!!
micropenis.
That night... you promised you would never tell...
#29
My last 4 picks are still going strong. I assume Dragons "Crush" is Dragon's Curse, and some sort of shady tactic in hopes people won't pick it thinking it's pinball.

But I took a change because it's still THE BEST HU-CARD EVER!!!!!
#31
That sucks man. It has been my experience that conventions, and large get-to-gethers have at least one person who just comes to try and steal some shit.
#32
This is the best thing to come out in awhile. I always worry I am going to break my everdrive because you are forced t touch it. I know it's just a matter of time before I break a trace or something stupid.

This is kind of obscure. But what I think would be really cool is a replacement cover for the Ten Noe Koe bank. If anyone has ever changed a battery in one of these you know you pretty much have to ruin it by prying the top cover off. Then you have to wrap it in tape to get it to stick. It also has the solder tabs for the battery built in to the hu card. And the get all jacked up. If you could somehow make a cover, that encloses a cr2032 battery, and maybe has a simple piece of metal that you could just glue in the top and bottom of the new cover that would be amazing.
#33
Quote from: Duo_R on 12/04/2014, 07:37 PMand this is mainly 1 player, although my 5 year old is willing to do some questing with me. 
LOL..

Yeah, dungeon explorer 1 is worth checking out if you like dungeon explorer II. They are pretty much identical gameplay except dungeon explorer II rocks out more in every single way. You are suppose to play 1 first, then be blown away by part II.

We will have to get together for sure about the arena. Maybe you could write those 2 parts, and when I fix my old faq, I can add your parts in and give you credit for the whole sections. But I will be honest. I don't think people read that faq.
#34
Quote from: guest on 12/04/2014, 09:17 AM
Quote from: greedostick on 12/04/2014, 02:24 AMI really just have no use for the other games.
You.  Suck.  :(
Yeah... You got me. I didn't realize Bonk 3 CD was included. I was thinking it was that wretched Kaze Kiri. Which you probably don't think is a much better statement on my part. But I just have no use for Godzilla. Owned it, hated it. And like I said I already have Dungeon Explorer 2. I may reconsider my ignorance and try and get on one of these possible second runs.
#35
Quote from: guest on 12/04/2014, 09:50 AM
Quote from: esteban on 12/04/2014, 12:14 AMEspecially when Viking Princess or Robot joins the party. GAUNTLET NEVER HAD A ROBOT THAT SHOOTS LAZERS AS AN UNLOCKABLE CHARACTER.
To be fair, there's no robots in Dungeon Explorer either.



"Herr-derp!  Dragon's Curse is the worstest game evah!!1!  I are so funny!!!!"

Please go fuck yourself.
''

But Dungeon Explorer II did. B.E.

and Dragon's Curse is the BEST hu-card game. And Legendary Axe is much better than Legendary Axe 2. It's also in my top 5. All my opinion though of course.

But there really is no such thing as a bad Wonder Boy game. Not a action RPG one anyway.
#36
Quote from: Bernie on 11/29/2014, 02:30 PMGot mine yesterday, but until I get my Duo from turbokon, I cannot play em.  Has anyone fired them up in their consoles?  It is looking like the TOCs match, because TurboRip and Magic Engine both see them as original games.  I do however seem to have issues with Magic Engine not seeing them as a correct game, just says it's a PCE CD.  Ootake did not have that issue.
Unless Magic Engine has changed. I thought you had to load of CD's on a virtual drive like Daemons Tools. Magic Engine may have came a long way though. I remember when it had no CD support at all.
#37
I popped over here for this very reason. I really wish I could just get dynastic hero. I already have dungeon explorer II. I really just have no use for the other games. And I can't justify spending $800.00 on Dynastic Hero even though it is one of my all time favorites. I should have kept it while I had it.
#38
Dragons Curse is the best English Huey in my opinion. My picks were Dragons Curse, Legendary Axe, Bonk's Revenge, Cadash, and Blazing Lazers for a little variety.

I am surprised Ninja Spirit is on top. Great game though. Pretty much all those games rock out.
#39
Quote from: Duo_R on 12/03/2014, 07:19 PMThank you for the guide greedo!
your welcome. I never got around to editing it. But I have some free time really soon. So if anyone has any information please contact me.

@ flare65 & duo-r (thanks for the info. Maybe we can talk later and get more in depth.)
#40
You can add my dungeon explorer II FAQ I posted on gamefaqs years ago, since most people can't afford the American Version these days it might be a good pick. I'm on my phone so I can link it eight now. Username greedostick on gamefaqs
#41
Quote from: guest on 05/23/2014, 11:38 AM
Quote from: greedostick on 05/23/2014, 01:54 AMI was also thinking. It probably doesn't matter anyway how rare or expensive it is. With the advances in 3D Printing in the last few years i'm surprised people are not printing out reproduction casings and selling these on ebay. Probably wont be long before you can print the whole thing up, PCB included at home and play it on a actual system.
I'm a member there. But been awhile. I can't wait till I can print up a cope of lil Sampson.

Lol, you apparently have never been on NintendoAge.  That place is hilarious because so many people are worried about others making repros of released games and reducing the value of their "legit" items.  Making a basic repro to fool like someone on Craigslist isn't too bad, but making something that plays and has all the hallmarks of a true original takes a lot of work.  HuCards will probably be the last to have boots made of them, mainly because of how they were manufactured. 
#42
I was also thinking. It probably doesn't matter anyway how rare or expensive it is. With the advances in 3D Printing in the last few years i'm surprised people are not printing out reproduction casings and selling these on ebay. Probably wont be long before you can print the whole thing up, PCB included at home and play it on a actual system.
#43
I agree with what the poster said above about the 80's and 90's games being actually rare. Thus holding their value.

 We are at a point in gaming now with all the special edition releases that people collect them just to sell them 20 years down the road. Especially those PSP games like Trails in the Sky Premium Edition. But the difference is even though those games are special editions they still have relatively high print runs compared to actual rare games of the 8 and 16 bit era. They will always be available, even sealed, at least in our lifetime because people will always be unloading their investments. When it comes to collecting now if you truly want to invest you need to be collecting actual rare games, not special editions, unless it is a truly rare special edition. Games like Hilton Hotel on PSP, NiNoKuni Wizards Edition, Class of Heroes 2,and other obscure games with low print runs will be valuable. Mainly games that never hit retail shelves. For this generation the rare retail game probably haven't even been released yet. Because they normally come very late in the systems lifecycle.

But back to the subject on Magical Chase. It's expensive because it's truly rare. Even when I owned the game back in the late 90's I paid $120.00 for a copy with a manual, and ONLY because it was listed uncorrectly on eBay as PC Engine Magical Chase.

Truly rare games command high prices whether they are good or not. Not something like Earthbound that is expensive because people like it is totally different. And when you get that game that is actually rare, and good, especially if it is a shooter or RPG people go crazy.

I think I could list the number of truly rare games with official releases on just 2 hands. And they are all expensive. Not counting Neo Geo AES games. pre NES and PC games because I don't know much about those.

Actually Rare:
Magical Chase
Dynastic Hero
Zenki PCFX
Samurai Shodown V Special MVS
Luceinnes Quest 3DO
Amazing Tader gameboy
Bonk 3 CD (Even this I am unsure if I would call rare)

NOT RARE:
Anything final fantasy
earthbound
hagane
EVO: The Search for Eden
Neutopia 2
Little Sampson
Flintstones Surprise at Dinosaur Peak
Magical POP'n
Shantae

None of those games are rare, they are maybe uncommon, or very uncommon. I would go as far as to say they're is not a single rare Super Nintendo game that had a official release. Not even Final Fight Guy or any other Blockbuster exclusives. As blockbuster was plentiful in this era and had multiple copies of every game. I also don't think there are any rare sega saturn, ps1, ps2, xbox, ps3, dreamcast, Master System etc.. games. Not released in the USA anyway. I could actually go as far as to say after the 16 bit era theyre are not truly rare officially released games that hit retail shelves.

There are however games that are rare because they were special releases or unreleased protos

Darius Alpha
Super Mario All Night Nippon
that Uncharted fortune hunters edition
world championship cart
earthbound nes
Star Fox Super Weekend

The bottom line is Magical Chase is expensive because it is truly rare and sought after. Not just because it is truly rare, but because it is also good, and a shmup. If any game out there deserves a high price tag it is magical chase. Although quite ridiculous as it is. I still remember when Circus Lido was the rarest PC Engine game. It was only sold in certain bookstores in Japan, until re-discovered in mass quantities. I remember when that game fetched over a thousand dollars on eBay, before that people paid near equal prices on yahoo japan before it was ever on eBay. Now it's under $100.00 normally. So I am just waiting around hoping magical chase or dynastic hero are discovered and listed on ebay selaed in mass quantities. Probably will never happen.

A rare game is a game that pops up on ebay maybe once a year, then people see the price and unload a few. Usually around Christmas. That's the best time to pick them up. When people are desperate for xmas money, and when people are reluctant to spend too much becuase of christmas coming up
#44
Turbo Grafx 16 or Turbo Duo? I have a Duo one. The TG16 ones are near impossible to find unless you make it yourself. Or make an adaptor.
#45
Received. Will be shipped out Monday. Thanks :) now. I have to find a duo.
#46
My Tod loads up. But did not at first. I can't even navigate the Tod it just throws errors left and right. In the rare instance I do load a game its just garbled graphics
#47
Quote from: guest on 03/20/2014, 07:52 AMSince you bought it from Keith courage throw these these forums would be cool you gave the guys here first crack in stead of post it on eBay already. I don't get that but whatever l, hope some one snags it here for the price you purchased it at.
I still want some stickers. I will PM you hopefully soon. Just trying to acquire some loose cases to put the games in.
#48
Quote from: HailingTheThings on 03/21/2014, 12:21 AMThat sounds fair-ish, was trying for the $150 range, but the longer I wait the worse it'll get or something, I'm sure?
IMG (please...)
If it doesn't go anywhere within the time it takes to get my effing tax $ I will probably be like "Yes." Cuz I've been teh wanting that game to complete my Bonk trilogy. And I like Bonk. Alot. And. Ever since I had my hands on a non-working copy, I've been upset-ish about not having it. *sigh*
Just get the PC Engine version. It has better art and is the same game. I guess I shouldn't be deflecting my own sales, but hell, it's the same game for almost 1/3 the price.
#49
Quote from: guest on 03/20/2014, 12:08 PMraregames4u?

Quote from: greedostick on 03/05/2014, 12:03 PM
Quote from: munchiaz on 03/05/2014, 11:51 AMMUST HAVE ALL THE RARES!!!
No, I don't care about rare games. (...)
Dude, got any more of these for sale?  :lol:
<<< ebay feedback link redacted >>>

OK, I'm done now. You know me... all about the lulz. If i had cash to spare, i'd love to take that briefcase off your hands.  Thanks for giving forumites the option to buy it at-cost.
raregames4u, not 4me. But yeah you got me :-)

I started selling on eBay in 1997, for a guy at my local flea market, and have made a little side business out of it over the years to fund my collecting because it's way too expensive. Of course I do like the occasional rare game, but I don't make it a mission to collect crap like complete amazing tader on Gameboy, Darius Alpha, and Stadium Events. I'll acquire something if it's rare and good. But not if it's rare and crap. I wont even collect a game if if it's good and cheap. I only collect games I feel are a 9 out of 10. Because life is too short o even play all the 9's and 10's.

I try to buy huge lots, fix the consoles up, clean them, mod them or whatever, install holders in games, get the stickers off, and make some profit and keep games I want. Hence why I am selling these games now, and why I need manuals for a few games. Those were SOME of my freebies for buying a huge lot. I won't even tell you what CD games I acquired for free, and then made profit in the end.

I find it satisfying to collect and sell in my spare time. It beats the hell out of picking up hours in the emergency room, and I get extra money and free games to boot. And I get to help preserve games by installing holders and such, almost guaranteeing another 15 years on the game before it is in danger of battery acid corrosion again.

I'll try and get stuff on here more in the future if things sell well. I have found it incredibly hard the last few years to sell stuff on forums. Not really sure why, but it's not as easy as it use to be. I think people are tired of game prices rising constantly.

Quote from: Bernie on 03/21/2014, 12:05 AMDamn good price sir! 
Thank you. You always have nice things to say.
#50
Quote from: Dicer on 03/20/2014, 09:41 PMMy TED also doesn't like the PCE suitcase setup, get the WSOD...if it's something that can be resolved I'd love to know
What's the WSOD?

Quote from: HailingTheThings on 03/20/2014, 11:00 PMKinda interested in your Bonk 3, how low would you go?

IMG
If you are in the USA $175.00 shipped Priority Mail with tracking.