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Try again.  You're not being insulted simply because you disagree; it's because you're putting words in people's mouths, intentionally obfuscating points with irrelevant tangents, double posting like a dumbfuck, and lying through your teeth (either intentionally or out of ignorance).

Try again. I haven't been insulted because I have considered the sources. Talking to anyone like that is a joke. Amongst friends, fine but when trying to make a point? Weak. Wow, you can swear. Bad. Ass. This hypocrisy is one of the reasons I jumped in this thread. I already called out 2 of them for accusing me
of doing things that you were the one doing. That would be the lying you speak of right? I thought this was fighting street, do the goal posts move here too? logical fallacies, claiming opinions as facts, stretching of truth, and close minded group think. You are guilty of every single one of those, yet wanna call out for it? LMFAO!!

Yep, I'm active in many threads and post often.  Why does this bother you so?

At what point do I even allude to it bothering me? Stretching to have a point again. It has been you that felt the need to quote me from the start. Obfuscating yes? LOL

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I'll say it again: people that truly don't care about something don't proclaim over and over again that they don't care.

Keep saying it. All I have to do is show up and in no time, you come running in, keyboard locked and loaded. I know you truly do care 

What exactly did you join (and stay) here for?  It obviously isn't to talk about games.

Boxes. I collect only the boxes for TG games. Or maybe it was because I like Bonk. Can't remember.

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I would assume that he joined because he deleted his account in a fit of rage over some thread or other.  After realizing that he missed the lulz from posting obnoxious stuff he rejoined so he can now make personal attacks when his arguments aren't quite as well thought out with obvious brilliance as he perceived them.

Interesting concept. Personal attacks. Retard, chucklefuck, stupid, douche these are all descriptions of me!! I did call the internet forum cliche Rambo though. Funny you mentioned personal attacks but I saw no need to. Why is that? I have not seen the need to question anyones intelligence or ability to read because they don't agree with me. I wouldn't even think of calling someone a retard because they don't think as I do lol. But you did just confirm that it is indeed a circle jerk. Glad I am not part of it.

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It seems some people don't understand the whole point of implementing the minimum wage and should look up some history.

Supply and demand. What is your point?

Please actually look it up before saying such incorrect things.

It was for worker protection, much like unions. Basically it means, if I could pay you less than this and get away with it, I would, but laws prevent me from doing so. Also, a minimum standard of living, economic protection and basic neccesities. The supply and demand was tongue in cheek because that's the new argument about it. Carry on.

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I assume, that your previous comments about your grandfather and father were made to show me I am wrong. To me that doesn't matter. I do hope, and assume you do, that you appreciate all that both did so you could become who you are. I love honorable people who can put what they want out of their minds, to do what is needed for their families. It reminds me of my own family and we should be humbled by what they achieved and never once considered giving up on us.

How can you expect (and love) honour on an individual basis and not on a corporate basis?

This took me a while to try to find an answer. I still don't see a way to connect these dots. I guess best I can do is this.

IIRC, Honda plants in N America do not have these management/employee pay gap issues. Management makes very little more than line workers and they are expected to work all of the jobs at the plant when needed. How cool is that? So it can be done and it can work. They make a good products, have very few skeletons in the closet and maintain good relationships with all employees and customers. This is what you are after I think.

I like it. It would be a nice change in the landscape of corporate America and have always felt we could be better and more productive following Japanese work ethics. Ok, except for the jumping out of a building when you fail. But, you have to be reasonable. They don't have the most scrupulous businesses there either. So maybe we can work on the management/employee gap with those ethics and then work on more accountability at the upper levels. I don't know. Glad I don't need to figure it out, because it seems it would be a very daunting task.

I find it easier to hold an individual accountable or admirable because we are all under the same set of rules in the workforce or as citizens. Corporations and government are on their own level with different rules. I can't reasonably figure a way, with my limited understanding of their set of rules or lack of, to see the 2 as even remotely the same. I can't ever imagine being proud or admirable of a company that sells me something. That has never even crossed my mind. They are as faceless to me as I am to them I guess. But, people like you had in your life, just as faceless to me, are what we were built on and left a lasting impression.

Best I could do bro.

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If what you say were even remotely true, you would hear non stop complaint in every industry about wages. Legitimate complaints. Reality is, you only hear about it pertaining to entry level, non skilled labor. Millions get paid decently, otherwise, according to your observations, nobody could pay any of their bills or own anything. Look around you, is that really the case? Trying to bring everyone down to accommodate the lowest common denominator, and falsely blaming the top of the chain is a short sighted recipe for disaster.

Yep, nobody has complained about the the shrinking middle class or stagnant wages. 

You've answered my previous question: you are retarded (and a troll liar piece of shit, but who's counting?).

Because inflation is only part of the equation. Nice cherry pick. How did people survive 17% interest in the 80's on minimum wage?

I don't know what ignorant point you're trying to make here, but the fact remains that minimum wage peeked in the late 60s in terms of buying power, and it was substantially higher than what minimum wage will buy today; if a higher minimum wage didn't destroy companies then, why would it now?

Look, lets clear the air. I would be lying if I said I wasn't flattered by your hard-on when I come around. But, as I was saying at the beginning, you aren't what I look for. I am not attracted to people who mistake a condescending attitude with strength, or strength in numbers as superiority. I am not into people who feel they solely have all knowledge and facts, and I like strong people, ones who don't need to compensate at every turn. I like people who aren't so weak, that they scream and shout how right they are about everything even after claiming otherwise. I like people with substance. You have none. Text book internet arguer, zero originality. You are a dime a dozen. I can go to any internet forum and there you are. The guy that has the supermodel wife, 10 inch ding dong, financial expertise and that guy that makes anyone who is in his presence, 100% better. You are, in your mind, the GOAT.

I don't want to be your peer or ever on your level. It is difficult to even try to have a discussion with the likes of you but you always mistake that for you "winning" at every turn. You actively have and use the word "chucklefuck" in your vocabulary. I don't know where to even begin with that. My point is, not responding to that can be your internet victory if that's what you need. I am not going anywhere. Keep at it. I didn't join a video game forum and expect that there really were political, economical, scientific, and financial experts. I certainly knew they all wouldn't be contained in one person. I was right about that at least.

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What does paying low skill labor a livable wage have to do with people who have better skills and degrees?  Of course those people should be paid more.  Unfortunately out corporate run country doesn't want to pay anyone decently.   Why have wages basically been flat for the last forty years despite massive productivity gains?

The right has been pushing this trickle down economic theory for so long and we've tried it.  It doesn't trickle down.  It's like telling Mexico they can have whatever water trickles down to them in the Colorado River... guess what that shits dry by the time it hits the border because we've taken it all.

If what you say were even remotely true, you would hear non stop complaint in every industry about wages. Legitimate complaints. Reality is, you only hear about it pertaining to entry level, non skilled labor. Millions get paid decently, otherwise, according to your observations, nobody could pay any of their bills or own anything. Look around you, is that really the case? Trying to bring everyone down to accommodate the lowest common denominator, and falsely blaming the top of the chain is a short sighted recipe for disaster.

Yes it is the case.  Pay is the number one reason people leave one job for another - regardless of industry, education, pay level etc...

Correct, but my question was pertaining to people not being able to survive, not happiness. I think we both would agree you have a greater chance to make more money when you aren't in the entry level. Maybe not happy, but you can make more.

I assume, that your previous comments about your grandfather and father were made to show me I am wrong. To me that doesn't matter. I do hope, and assume you do, that you appreciate all that both did so you could become who you are. I love honorable people who can put what they want out of their minds, to do what is needed for their families. It reminds me of my own family and we should be humbled by what they achieved and never once considered giving up on us.

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If it'd be "incredibly destructive" to raise minimum wage above $7.25 now, why didn't every company go bankrupt in the 60s when minimum wage was $10+ (adjusted for inflation).

Because inflation is only part of the equation. Nice cherry pick. How did people survive 17% interest in the 80's on minimum wage?

In what world does "being paid enough to survive" equal being able to afford any and every luxury?  Since you're being serious, I gotta ask: are you retarded?

Only if I try to relate on your level.

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What does paying low skill labor a livable wage have to do with people who have better skills and degrees?  Of course those people should be paid more.  Unfortunately out corporate run country doesn't want to pay anyone decently.   Why have wages basically been flat for the last forty years despite massive productivity gains?

The right has been pushing this trickle down economic theory for so long and we've tried it.  It doesn't trickle down.  It's like telling Mexico they can have whatever water trickles down to them in the Colorado River... guess what that shits dry by the time it hits the border because we've taken it all.

If what you say were even remotely true, you would hear non stop complaint in every industry about wages. Legitimate complaints. Reality is, you only hear about it pertaining to entry level, non skilled labor. Millions get paid decently, otherwise, according to your observations, nobody could pay any of their bills or own anything. Look around you, is that really the case? Trying to bring everyone down to accommodate the lowest common denominator, and falsely blaming the top of the chain is a short sighted recipe for disaster.

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I believe this is the third time that I've stated as such, but minimum wage jobs should be able to pay the necessary bills for a single individual to survive.  I do not believe that you should be able to support 5 people on a minimum wage job; that is ridiculous.  That said, it is absolutely equally ridiculous if you work 40 hours a week and cannot afford rent, transportation, bills, insurance, food, and clothing. 

If you can't make it on 40 hours a week, then work 80. This is how past generations that took pride in themselves did it and it is proven to work.

Yeah, my father and father-in-law who worked all the time and never took a vacation were happy to do their part and die right after retirement. Sounds like a working plan...

So they wouldn't have died if they didn't work so much? False equivalency. They chose those paths and were victims of circumstance. Just like you and me. If I work until I die because of my choices, I won't blame anyone but myself.

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It seems some people don't understand the whole point of implementing the minimum wage and should look up some history.

Supply and demand. What is your point?

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I believe this is the third time that I've stated as such, but minimum wage jobs should be able to pay the necessary bills for a single individual to survive.  I do not believe that you should be able to support 5 people on a minimum wage job; that is ridiculous.  That said, it is absolutely equally ridiculous if you work 40 hours a week and cannot afford rent, transportation, bills, insurance, food, and clothing. 

If you can't make it on 40 hours a week, then work 80. This is how past generations that took pride in themselves did it and it is proven to work.

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The whole minimum wage thing is so frustrating.  The right wants to pay people peanuts so they can boost corporate profits.  The left wants people to make enough to survive.

My opinion?  If you want an employee then you should pay a living wage.  That person is committing their time and labor to your company.  Whether its pushing carts, flipping burgers, or sitting behind a desk managing billions of dollars.  They are a human being committing their time to your company.  That is worth at least a livable wage.  If you cant afford that, then you cant afford to have an employee.  Build a robot instead.

Why do you think unskilled labor should be rewarded the same opportunities that someone who has taken the time to get a degree, learn a skilled trade, or worked their way from the bottom up the ladder? I am being serious.

Flipping burgers is an entry level, no skill required, job. Entry level is not the way to have the newest iphone, killer apartment/house, nice new/newer car, go on vacations, and eat whatever you want. You make something of yourself and have a career for those things. This is not a corporate  responsibility, the individual is responsible for this decision. For decades, this is how it has been and people survived. Worked 2 jobs if needed, but now, all of a sudden, someone should be more compensated for having no skills because???? What? Life is hard? Always has been and always will be. The only thing that has changed is the attitude of entitlement.

I laugh every time I hear of this complaint. These people willingly took these jobs when offered, then turn around and complain that they need more money for doing the same thing they agreed to do from the start. Or start a gofundme, because, why work for something, it should just be given to you because you want it and other people should do the lifting for you.

My opinion, if you want a living wage, then make yourself valuable enough to be able to earn it. This isn't a world where you can sit around and wait for somebody else to do it for you.

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Enter keys and message breaks are for suckers.  Keep double posting like a boss. 

The "chickenshit" thing was mirroring your own comments.  Like your typical Trumptard POS, you're a giant hypocrite calling out others for shit you're doing yourself (including the use of vulgar insults and name calling).

As for me not explaining why each of those instances is racist, what's the point of arguing with someone that doesn't even understand the definition of racism?  If your stance is that racial stereotypes and racial profiling aren't racist, you can't be reasoned with.  Besides, those points were refuting your foolish claim that Trump was never accused of being racist until recently; whether they prove he's racist or not, you're dead wrong on that score.

I understand clearly what racism is. It doesn't include things that have been said that someone doesn't like or is sensitive to, by a person of a different race. Trying to connect dots that can't be connected unless you fill in a lot of blanks, read between the lines, or redefine the description you are trying to use, doesn't make it true. And you are 100% correct, Trump was accused of it before, doesn't make it true.

Welcome to Fighting Street, bitch.

Not impressed. I go to many 100% unmoderated forums. If somebody used the word chucklefuck, the abuse would be relentless. I guess on here it may be as cool as collectard, but it's difficult not to imagine some creepy dude who gets overly excited when they look at anime girls using a word like that. But what do I know.

I don't care what anyone has called me. It's the mob mentality here. It's the only thing that keeps this place somewhat relevant. You guys all do the same shit to any individual that doesn't contribute any value to the mob or doesn't adhere to that mentality anywhere on this forum. You guys have your tongues so far up each other asses that I'm sure you carve your initials in tomorrows turds daily. You do it all the time. Should I watch what I say to them? Lol, ok. Look how vile the mob gets over cardboard boxes. The standards are really low here, I can meet them.

Nor do I care.  I've labeled you as a moron and a Trump apologist not as an alt-right neocon.

Nor do I care. Like above, just because it's said, doesn't mean it is. Few people hold significance to me, someone talking about collectards chucklefucks wouldn't get near that list. At least we are clear on that.

And yet you love Trump, the guy that lies and stretches the truth like nobody else.  You must mean you like alternate facts. 

Lol, I didn't even vote for him. But yup, I like him. He has ideas, he has the constitution front and center, he loves this country. He isn't telling all of us to be ashamed to be something and that it's ok to be the best country, not an equal country. He wants laws upheld. No matter what a douche he may be, those are convictions I admire. I don't need to be ashamed or apologetic for that.

I agree with wanting to fix all those things, but I disagree with most of his implementations, or lack thereof in some cases.

Immigration:  Hiring more border agents is good, but even the agents say the wall is dumb.  It'll cost billions and trample the rights of land owners and ultimately do nothing; they'll go over/under it, cross at roads/rails, enter through waterways, etc. anyway.  Deportations of some immigrants is also good, but I see no good in deporting law abiding people that work, pay property taxes, etc.  Why not allow them to stay and become US citizens after they've lived here for decades, been schooled, had kids, etc.?

I have no opinion on the wall, but securing the borders is crucial. I disagree on deporting law abiding people that have been here. I am sure your family, my family, everyone on this forums has some family I am sure that came over her and got citizenship the hard way, but legal and required way. If you have been here for years to work, pay taxes, etc but did not respect the legal citizens, or ancestors, or the laws of this country in all of those years by taking the necessary steps to be a legal citizen, then you should be deported. To be fair, in those cases, which I believe would be considered dreamers, it could be an expedited or simplified process. But, from here on out, you can't do it the right way, adios.

Big/Small Business:  Is there anything specific to businesses that's not a part of other issues listed here?  Maybe his plans to relax rules on banks, but that's another mixed bag: small banks could use relief and they weren't part of the original problem, but I disagree 100% with getting rid of the rules altogether and giving the big banks a free ride.  Or maybe pulling out of trade agreements, but those again help as much as they hurt.

Sure. EPA regulations is a big one, ACA, replacement would be another huge one, and giving businesses tax breaks/incentives will really help. I recall reading about different/more loans being available to people. While that isn't technically a Trump plan, his goal was to actually see they are put in place.

Military:  We shouldn't have to spend more to have a robust military; we already spend far more than any other country, so why are we ill equipped and unprepared?  No other army is of comparable size, has as advanced equipment, and spends more time on training; the problem is how the money is spent on things not needed, so more money isn't the answer.  Also, he's flip-flopped on getting us more involved in other countries' affairs, the transgender ban has hurt recruitment and retainment (admittedly not substantially), and proposed welfare program cuts hurt lots of vets.

I was not thrilled with the MOAB thing. I get why it was done but I was disappointed that he didn't adhere to his words of no involvement. But, seeing kids gassed is shitty and kind of ties into to why denounce if you don't do anything about it? Excellent point about ill equipped. That was my main reason for pointing out his military ideas. We are in a different era of warfare, money will be needed to advance that, but frivolous spending needs to be done already. I don't care about transgenders. The wants of a few should not outweigh what is in the best interest for the majority. If the heads of the military branches are seeing them as distractions or causing unnecessary issues, kick them out. They can still do great things in the civilian world. He is on the Vets side, finally, someone is. I am not concerned with this aspect. He will try to do the right thing.

Taxes:  Simplifying taxes would benefit everyone, but the tax cuts benefit mostly the wealthy and will increase our debt substantially - all economists agree that Trump's claim that economic growth would offset his tax cuts is a pipe dream.

Tax cuts will always benefit those who pay the most, the wealthy. I think he understands the needs for it for the middle class. In the business world, his offsets can work, but I agree, I don't see it happening as an offset.

Healthcare:  He's undermined ACA with uncertainty, has jackshit for a replacement program, and hasn't really helped congress with crafting a proposal that anyone likes.

This isn't on him at all. This is the useless republicans doing nothing. Then the democrats unwillingness to do anything at all to work with anything. Not 1 of them, either side, has American citizens in their best interest. This is about resisting, party voting and generally being useless at their jobs. If they worked anywhere else, they would be unemployed in 1 day tops. ACA has been a burden. I don't think people that don't 100% pay for their own insurance understand that, or the poor who pay nothing for it. Believe me, the ones that do have the burden of it, are screwed.

EPA:  Pulling out of the paris agreement means nothing, as it won't happen for four years and there were no penalties for not meeting goals.  I agree that the EPA has gone too far in a few cases, I guess, but that doesn't warrant undoing everything they've done.

They haven't done anything except use politics to determine science to enact unreasonable, costly, non sense laws. And destroy many industries we used to have in this country. Why do they even get to make their own laws? They were left unchecked and unlimited funding for far too long. Paris agreement was a joke and a great step to keep the Promise of America first. We need coal, we need fossil fuels, we can do that in conjunction with using and evolving green energy. It isn't one or the other, because we can have it all.

I agree that congress sucks, but Trump is just making it worse.  Like 'em or not, he must work with Congress to pass legislation; bitching, name calling, and constant threats of fighting their re-election bids won't forward your agenda.

We both know the Democrats will not work with him at all. Who doesn't like a good call out? You have enjoyed calling me out, I enjoy calling people out, and I think it's cool he does it. I don't think he does it enough. Call the deadbeats out for taking tax payer money and not working for the tax payer. Call them out for hurting all of us. If he already knows they will fight him tooth and nail every step, what does he have to lose? He is a fan of term limits, which would majorly help these exact problems, but how will he ever get these lumps to vote themselves out of life long leeching?

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And you haven't figured out I am straight down the middle. I like facts, not stretching of the truth. I don't like either the left or right. But I can say even though Obama was a useless piece of crap that damaged the world...

Lol... Yeah, you sound straight down the middle.

douche |----------------X----------------| retard

I've been beat with experience I guess

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A certain dumb cunt still hasn't it figured it out that I'm a right leaning moderate that usually votes Republican.  Guess what chucklefuck - you don't have to be an alt-left communist to disagree with Trump, recognize his lies for what they are, and realize that the piece of shit is accomplishing very little while further dividing the country.

Wooohooo, dumb cunt!! Chucklefuck!! Brilliant. Dude, you are the most bad ass keyboard commando on any video game forum ever. Holy shit, we got a Turbo Rambo up in this bitch!

And you haven't figured out I am straight down the middle. I like facts, not stretching of the truth. I don't like either the left or right. But I can say even though Obama was a useless piece of crap that damaged the world, he was a great speaker. But, OTOH, I see what trump wants to do with immigration, small business, big business, Military, tax cuts, the joke of the ACA, controlling the EPA as all great things. And on all of them, he has at least not forgotten that he would try to improve all of those. Some of them, actually have been done.The useless congressman are the swamp, in both parties, and that is where all of the problems begin.

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Oh no's. I messed up quotes!! You, billy bad ass, are one ITG for calling that out! Typical lefty, making something out of nothing and then acting righteous for doing so. Did you check all the spelling too?

Hope for me for what? I don't fear the truth. You don't even know where I stand on most things. I don't think trump is as vile as you and can objectively handle things.

I would prefer you not try to explain all of your logical fallacies, I could get them all from Vox anyways. Keep flying your racism banner over anything you can, it's enjoyable watching the left expose themselves and their intention daily.

I love this. "Ha! You don't even know me. That's why I refuse to engage with you any more. I win!" It's how you know someone isn't even serious about debating, they only want to argue and insult.

It was a trap all along.

. Read it again. He claimed I was chicken shit for not answering, when I did, he said he had no need to respond because ya know, he has to be right. And I was thankful to not see him stretch to make explanations. So yea, you got it pretty wrong. That was your boys play.

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The chickenshit can't even use quotes properly.  What a maroon!

Because a lot of illegals are coming through Mexico from other countries. This has been discussed multiple times. Mexico acknowledges Central America is a problem for them and us. Mexico is the gateway. A smart person sees the problem, identifies it, and then works to solve it. That is what's being done. Canada will be a problem soon, but the focus is on the exact problem now. Instead of crying about racism non stop, you should see what things are really about.

It's true that another 20% of illegal immigrants are from central and south american countries, but not all of them come over land through Mexico and cross illegally (many overstay visas or vacation in Canada and head south).  Any way you slice it, more than a third of illegal immigrants are basically being ignored, but I guess they don't matter and aren't possibly a threat because they're not Mexican.... but that's not possibly racist. 

I ignored them because only 1 of them, is actually racist.

One is enough to prove that he's hardly the "least racist person on earth".  Even you now agree he's at least mildly racist, so maybe there's hope for you deplorables yet. 

I won't bother going through each and explaining why they're racist or at least give an appearance of racial bias (the Least Racist Person Evah! would never do things that look even remotely racist), but you're clearly ignorant of Trump's history and don't really understand what racism is anyway.


Trump sure is pissed about McConnell and Ryan not passing legislation.  I guess Trump's too busy flip flopping on Afghanistan and pissing away our tax dollars on the campaign trail and golfing for him to actually help them draft something good.

Oh no's. I messed up quotes!! You, billy bad ass, are one ITG for calling that out! Typical lefty, making something out of nothing and then acting righteous for doing so. Did you check all the spelling too?

Hope for me for what? I don't fear the truth. You don't even know where I stand on most things. I don't think trump is as vile as you and can objectively handle things.

I would prefer you not try to explain all of your logical fallacies, I could get them all from Vox anyways. Keep flying your racism banner over anything you can, it's enjoyable watching the left expose themselves and their intention daily.

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No response before so I guess I'll ask again. 

Would you consider the Americans who seig heiled while they marched with Swastikas on their arms in Charlottesville deplorable?  Do you, itsatarp, deplore them?

Sorry, didn't see this. The more important question is, what kind of person are YOU to assume silence means acceptance?

Actually, I assumed that you just missed it so I asked again.  I wouldn't have bothered repeating myself except shortly afterward my post you said...

The simple fact that you see nothing wrong with her calling ANY legal American tax paying citizen deplorable while trying to convince people she should lead this nation, speaks volumes. It's about respect, something you seem to have no concern for.

At that point I figured it was worth clarifying.

I think that when people are legitimately wearing Nazi trappings they are deplorable.  I don't care what your job is, they are deplorable.  You can try to turn it around on me if you want but I asked a question out of legitimate curiosity.  Then, rather than disavowing these deplorable white supremacists, you ignored it and instead doubled down on how wrong people being called deplorable is provided that they are a taxpayer.

But to answer your question, fuck them. NAACP, BLM, Feminists, Antifa, UNCF, KKK, the far out crazy rightwing people that all for militias, Hannity (lol), hell, and special interest group all do nothing but divide. All of them. If you want an end to racism, sexism, and isms in general, none of them should exist. But it will never happen.

Perhaps I can help you on what people dislike about this whole "many many sides" thing; maybe I'm wrong here but it seems you just don't get it.  There is no equivalency between Nazis and anyone you can name that has been involved in any events in my lifetime in America.  Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda's attacks on September 11th are not remotely as vile as Nazis.  If you want something to compare with Nazis, you'd need to look to much greater evils like Pol Pot or Stalin.

I don't consider these deplorable United Statesmen as actual Nazis.  I think Nazi Sympathizer is a better term as these guys weren't in the army that my (and quite possibly your) grandfathers took up arms against.  That said, sympathizing with people who killed 9 million Jews is deplorable.  Standing alongside people who sympathize with these people is deplorable.  Not leaving as soon as you realize that these guys aren't a ridiculous and crazy minority but instead a sizable block of your protest is deplorable.  Everyone on the side of "Freedom of the Press" at Charlottesville was deplorable.

When I asked you if they were deplorable you responded simply "fuck em."  That's fine and probably a good enough answer (though imo the best answer would be a simple "Yes, they are deplorable").  Instead of patting yourself on the back showing that you're definitely on the right side of that one, immediately after saying "fuck em" you compare Nazi Sympathizers to the NAACP.  The NAACP was founded in 1909, the same year that this article was written.  You are equating an organization that was arguing that people in America shouldn't be lynched with people who shout "Heil Hitler!" while saluting with a swastika cockaded arm.

An organization that killed almost .5% of the world's population entirely because of their religious heritage cannot be compared to antifa, or BLM, or virtually anyone without a gross amount of exaggeration or false equivalency.  Nazis being as bad as they are is why it is generally considered bad form to bring them up as a comparison in an argument/discussion.  And allow me to be clear; I'm not saying that 2 groups of protesters meeting in a park and having a brawl is an acceptable thing in modern society.  In this case, however, a large portion of one of the groups identifies with Nazis.  If you identify with Nazis you are worse; Nazis are worse than anything you're likely to name. 

When you say something along the lines of "Nazis?  Fuck them" and then start listing all the other groups you don't like you are, in essence, accepting that Nazis and the others are equal.  You are either showing how you do not really dislike Nazis or you are so blind and contemptuous that you think that the groups you listed are actually as bad as a group of people who killed millions of jews in gas chambers.  When you say that feminists Why yes, I do believe that modern feminism is often rather silly at best but they are not comparable to Nazis.

I understand your points perfectly. And I do get it, but to me, this all falls under the picking up a turd by the clean end. The atrocities of the Nazis are the darkest time I can think of in recent history. I don't for a minute think that 1 race is superior. But I don't think hate of any kind is just a little better than another. They all start somewhere. Nip them in the bud, all of them so we don't have another atrocity on our hands again. We still do though and turn our backs to it every day. It's hard to convince me that anyone denouncing anything is genuine when there is still slavery in the world, human trafficking, leaders killing their own by the thousands, etc. All of the denouncing shit, proven by the reaction to Charlottesville by Trump, is all politicized. I think there are many out there that see it the same as me. Words aren't fixing it and no action taken, so if it walks like BS and smells like BS, it's probably BS.

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Maybe he doesn't care about me personally, but he sure as hell is peeing in his cheerios over polls, protests, and all other forms of criticism.  He's such a fragile bitch.

That he is, no disagreement there.

Besides, I enjoy getting under your skin.  Bring the tears, chickenshit!

From how I have seen you on here, you don't posses the traits needed to get under my skin.

Sure ya did, liar.  You didn't acknowledge the point in at all before now.

I am a busy man, even have to check my fan thread now. I miss a few things what can I say.

It most certainly was a part of your point, and I conceded that maybe that instance wasn't racism but others were.... which you also ignored because you're a chickenshit.

It's hard to say it's not even mildly based on race or nation, though, seeing as Trump focuses so hard on Mexico and almost completely ignores the Canadian border, overstayed visas, etc.  Only about half of illegal immigrants are Mexican, so why aren't the others a threat?

Because a lot of illegals are coming through Mexico from other countries. This has been discussed multiple times. Mexico acknowledges Central America is a problem for them and us. Mexico is the gateway. A smart person sees the problem, identifies it, and then works to solve it. That is what's being done. Canada will be a problem soon, but the focus is on the exact problem now. Instead of crying about racism non stop, you should see what things are really about.

Cherry pick the one thing that you can blame on a faceless company (which he ruled with an iron fist, making it impossible for him to be blameless in the matter), and ignore most of the other personal examples.  Chickenshittery at its finest!

I ignored them because only 1 of them, is actually racist. Judge Joe, contempt of court for upholding Federal Law. It is very reasonable that when cracking down on illegals, you wouldn't profile blacks, whites, Asians, indians. Probably Latinos and mexicans because, ya know, those are the ones that seem to be illegally crossing the most.

Trumps dad at KKK rally. It has not been proven, to my knowledge his father was part of the KKK. Again, stretching your ass off here. Not racist.

Khizr Khan's mom. Totally ignorant and disrespectful comment. Uncalled for and immature. Assuming she could speak because of how women are treated as dogs under sharia law is common. Not racist. Total asshole move though.

Discriminatory lawsuits. I will not pass judgement. 2 sides to every story and businesses are targets for lawsuits that otherwise would gain no traction.

Central Park 5. Because they were black, Latino and women were white, and he did what he did, does not equate to racism. He said nothing even remotely close. If anything he rushed to judgement. Imagine that. He gets blasted for reacting too soon, but then not reacting soon enough at another time. If anything, you provided nothing but more manufactured hatred, imagined racism, and many reasons not worth commenting on.

It's racist because Trump said Curiel was incapable of doing his job for no reason other than him being Mexican.  I shouldn't have to explain it to you.

He indeed did question the ability to follow the law unbiased because of his involvement in the Trump University case. Trumps comments were total dick. Trump stretched a bit, which you should recognize easily, by saying the Judge would be unfair because of the wall and the Judge having strong ties to mexico. He most certainly did antagonize him! I am a fair person, you got this one right.

Obama Birth, lol. OMG obama was black and trump is white and questioned his legitimacy. It can only be RACISM!!!!!! Racism! Racism!!!! Racism! Racism! Racism!

1 out of 7

Hardly.  I know I'm flawed, but unlike you and Trumplethinskin, I'm capable admitting mistakes and owning my shittiness.

Hmmm

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I totally get that. I seriously doubt Trump, with his lifestyle, paid any attention to David Duke, Black Panthers, or any whack jobs. He had no need to call out anyone immediately. While it would have been wiser, in the end, it doesn't matter at this point. Remember when Treyvon was shot and the media said a white guy shot him? Those types of things we DON'T need. Patience may be the better path. People of character also don't make rash decisions. I feel this is a situation of damned if you do, damned if you don't.

If Trump's known for anything, it's waiting for more information and not flying off half-cocked, right?  Gimme a break.

"I thought being President would be easier."

"Who knew healthcare was so hard?"

"After listening for 10 minutes, I realized it's [North Korea] not so easy."

"I didn't know leaving Afghanistan would be so problematic."

So many lulz. 

No he is not. Not by any definition except the lefts. Logic defies the accusation. The man has employed people of many colors, races, religions, male or female. I am pretty sure that all of them are ends to a means and I can't imagine he pulled down the women he has married because of looks, but there is no evidence of racism. Unless you stretch the truth. Speaking of, he was never referred to as a racist until the democrats decided to try that approach. And now the left has run with it. 70 years old and suddenly he is this yuge racist!!!

Claims of racism aren't even remotely new.  Here's some things you can google:

- Trump lying about and defending his dad being arrested at a KKK rally
- Khizr Khan's mom
- Central Park Five
- Obama's birther conspiracy
- several discriminatory housing lawsuits
- Judge Curiel
- Joe Arpaio

Seriously, do you actually know ANYTHING about Trump other than he's president and #MAGA? 



By the way, good job on ignoring the statistics since they didn't agree with your 'alternate facts'.  Who's the chickenshit with his tail between his legs again?

As I stated, every instance if different. But why play this game? A dude lives in your head rent free daily that you despise. You call him orange, he doesn't know you exist. You call him racist, and he doesn't hear it. See, you are insignificant. But keep screaming, your fans love it. I didn't ignore your statistics. Ok so they do less criminal offenses, that wasn't the point, but you wanted to try to twist it up so you actually had a point. They do not belong here. If you don't have a dog but the neighbor does and lets it shit in your yard, why do you have the burden of cleaning it up? There is nothing wrong calling out people who DO NOT belong here for causing problems and costing US money. Too bad if they get insulted. His quote was clearly talking about the bad apples, but stretching the reality is a great way to manufacture some more outrage!!

Yup all of that and the above and RS article have been taken into account. Walmart has tons of racism and sexism lawsuits yearly, so by your limited scope, they are a racist company. When you deal with a great amount of people, shit happens. Was he out of line? sure, in some cases. He's an asshole, what do you expect? The Judge Curiel one, nope. The dudes Mexican so now it's racist to say it? It was about judging fairly in that case. Nothing wrong with making sure laws are upheld. And you know that but something tells me it doesn't matter. I'll bet you are always on the moral high ground huh "chickenshit"?

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The simple fact that you see nothing wrong with her calling ANY legal American tax paying citizen deplorable while trying to convince people she should lead this nation, speaks volumes. It's about respect, something you seem to have no concern for.

No response before so I guess I'll ask again. 

Would you consider the Americans who seig heiled while they marched with Swastikas on their arms in Charlottesville deplorable?  Do you, itsatarp, deplore them?

Sorry, didn't see this. The more important question is, what kind of person are YOU to assume silence means acceptance? But to answer your question, fuck them. NAACP, BLM, Feminists, Antifa, UNCF, KKK, the far out crazy rightwing people that all for militias, Hannity (lol), hell, and special interest group all do nothing but divide. All of them. If you want an end to racism, sexism, and isms in general, none of them should exist. But it will never happen.

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None of the above. Another circle jerk!

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And then you pull the middle aged white man thing. Bravo. Try to set the narrative before the info.

Middle aged white men is the only group Trump hasn't insulted.  Try to keep up.

He certainly has. He has insulted all of congress, almost every person he has appointed to anything, anyone on the disbanded committees and, hell, let's be honest, everyone. Yet, everyone is still pretty much alive.

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Besides his failure to call out white supremacists immediately on Charlottesville, Trump was asked during the campaign for a comment on being endorsed by David Duke and the KKK and he demurred, saying he doesn't know who they are; those two incidents were what I was talking about when I said he's loathe to denounce them.  No matter how you try to spin it, there's no doubt that literally any other mainstream candidate would've immediately said 'fuck his support' and any other president would've immediately said 'fuck white supremacists' in those instances.  People of character don't need a couple days to think about such things.

I totally get that. I seriously doubt Trump, with his lifestyle, paid any attention to David Duke, Black Panthers, or any whack jobs. He had no need to call out anyone immediately. While it would have been wiser, in the end, it doesn't matter at this point. Remember when Treyvon was shot and the media said a white guy shot him? Those types of things we DON'T need. Patience may be the better path. People of character also don't make rash decisions. I feel this is a situation of damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Actually, statistics show that immigrants are less likely than US born citizens to commit crimes and illegal immigrants do not commit a disproportionate number of crimes compared to legal citizens.  Look it up, ya mouthy piece of shit.

Even if Trump deserves a pass on this one point not being racist, there's several listed earlier that you're afraid to address because you know there's no explaining them away.  He's racist; deal with it.

No he is not. Not by any definition except the lefts. Logic defies the accusation. The man has employed people of many colors, races, religions, male or female. I am pretty sure that all of them are ends to a means and I can't imagine he pulled down the women he has married because of looks, but there is no evidence of racism. Unless you stretch the truth. Speaking of, he was never referred to as a racist until the democrats decided to try that approach. And now the left has run with it. 70 years old and suddenly he is this yuge racist!!!

I'm clearly saying I don't care about Trumps insults and that both sides do it anyway, so what exactly is your point? 

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So what? What happens when you get insulted? Lose your dick? Bank account drains? What? What exactly happens? It's not the end of the world when you get insulted, it's not YOUR world only. Let's bring in all the muslims, keep all the illegals, but don't you insult me!!! You can't have it both ways. Learn to deal with the reality of it.

Do you enjoy being equated to Nazis(Trump supporters)?  Would you feel the same if you were thrown in with terrorists (Muslims), murderers and rapists (Mexicans)?  Get your fucking head our of your ass!  There is a great big world out there, and it isn't just for middle aged white men...

Hold on here. I have been following this thread for a while. The same people who lump trump supporters together constantly, cry about muslims and mexicans being lumped together when convenient. Like I said, a circle jerk. "HaHa, Nulltard, you said trumpeteer, haha good one, Sorry necro, I forgot to spit in my hand first but I was laughing about the cheeto people, that's ok Esteban, just keep strokin it"

I don't understand 2 things in life, hypocrisy and low self esteem. So, I am lumping all of these guys together. Seems to be the way to do it. I want proof of Trump being racist, I want proof his voters are. This crap I have read multiple times in this thread. You want to represent that narrative, then you should have indisputable info on hand to do so. At least King Drool, no matter his opinion of me, took the time to put quotes up. I just lumped him in because he wanted to speak for someone else. So these guys all want to talk the talk, walk the walk. It can easily be a discussion but they have yet to show the ability to discuss unless it's among themselves in total agreement. When facing the opposition, they let go of the cocks long enough to pat each other on the back after some cheer leading to one of their replies.

And then you pull the middle aged white man thing. Bravo. Try to set the narrative before the info.

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Wow. Such an angry and insulting little man.

Again, your reading comprehension is absolutely lousy.

1) I never said Trump loves the KKK. In fact, I don't think he does. What I said was that he was not clear in his condemnation and that as president you need to make that shit crystal clear; especially when these people claim to support you, the president.

2) I never said racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic were only Trump voters. I'm sure there are plenty of those people who didn't vote for Trump. I was merely clarifying Hillary's quote for you.

3) Not once did I imply that you are a nazi. Not one single time. That is another figment of your imagination.

And here I am, pal, standing by my convictions. Not "tucking my tail". Not stomping my feet or crying really loudly. Here I am, simply responding to your fucking nonsense with fact and reason.

Except this part: Go fuck yourself.

I was referring to you picking up the ball for your bro when you said you'd take this. I asked those questions of him, you picked up the ball for him. Why not address it all?

No problem. How do you deal with other things in life that don't go your way. They all just fuck off too? LOL, yup, I'm the little one

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Nobody is trying to change or ignore history, moron.  The point is to move the statues to where their full context can be explained, like a museum, rather than leaving them as memorials to 'heroes' and celebrating traitors and slavery.  It's like in Germany: there's no Nazi regalia and Hitler statues in every town park, but there's no shortage of war and holocaust museums to visit.



You're equating institutional slavery to someone's personal life, and yet you think deplorable doesn't describe you?!?

So by tearing them down, defacing them, and destroying them, the point is to display them in a different environment. Got it. My bad. Where was this manufactured outrage last year? Year before that? And before that? What will be the next thing to be offended by? Green grass? The eclipse making things dark?!?!?! I know it's all on the table at this point.

You're leaving?  Cool, we're better for it.

Nope, sorry, someone who thinks different from you won't leave. I don't give you a second thought, do the same and all is good. Or like in real adult life, you can live among others who don't share the same view and let bygones be bygones. Or just call them a moron.

Mexican citizens aren't Americans.  My statement holds.

Or, are you referring to Americans of Mexican heritage?  Trump didn't insult that group.  Keep in mind that "people getting mad" doesn't mean "people were insulted".

Considering many of those 'criminal/rapist/druggie' illegal immigrants eventually gained citizenship, he did indeed insult Mexican Americans.

You Trump apologists pick the weirdest battles.  Between insulting various immigrant groups, muslims, the media in general, several countries and by extension the people that hold dual citizenship with them, the existing political establishment in DC, military leadership, the Democrats in general, the judicial system, global warming scientists, people at the Women's March, etc., there's no question he's insulted millions of Americans, but who gives a fuck?  Hell, he even insulted his own support base, saying they'd stand behind him even if he were a murderer!  The only reason you're trying this argument is to prove that Trump's better than Hilary, but the reality is that they're both assholes.

So what? What happens when you get insulted? Lose your dick? Bank account drains? What? What exactly happens? It's not the end of the world when you get insulted, it's not YOUR world only. Let's bring in all the muslims, keep all the illegals, but don't you insult me!!! You can't have it both ways. Learn to deal with the reality of it.

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So clearly, since Donald Trump has insulted millions of Americans....

To be fair, Trump has only insulted thousands of Americans, not millions...

But... if there are only thousands of Mexicans in the country, how did millions of them vote illegally?

Mexican citizens aren't Americans.  My statement holds.

Or, are you referring to Americans of Mexican heritage?  Trump didn't insult that group.  Keep in mind that "people getting mad" doesn't mean "people were insulted".

I was referring to the millions of illegal immigrants that he insists (without any evidence) had voted illegally.  He categorically called them rapists and criminals, which I would imagine was insulting to them. Also pretty fucking racist. I'm sure you'll argue semantics, and he was actually complimenting Mexicans and uniting the planet in love and harmony.

No it is not racist. Learn the meaning of the word. Statistically speaking along with data, the facts are on his side. While all of the things he accused them of, of course happen by REAL legal citizens, the data shows the damage of having illegals run rampant in this country and why it needs to be addressed. Calling out a group that all happens to be the same nationality, that are causing issues, is reality, not racism.

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Well, it was a nice try. I could respond by saying that any racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic person is in fact deplorable, and the fact that they pay their taxes doesn't get them a free pass. Or that yes, Treyvon was a high profile case that opened many wounds about race in America, which is precisely why a conversation was necessary. I could say that you're still using your newfound hatred of this nebulous "antifa" faction to overlook the fact that a nazi killed a woman or that your so-called "free speech" rally was nothing more than a shield for racists to spout their bullshit. I could also say that words matter; especially when they come from the so-called "leader" of the free world. And when nazis are parading around in your silly red hats or posting on their websites about how they're very happy that you didn't rebuke them for their actions, your words were not clear enough and you failed in your mission to clearly and definitively shut them down.

I could say all that, but it would be pointless. As Esteban said, we are speaking past one another. So here's to the PC Engine. Cheers.

You did make a great attempt. Where is the Trump loving KKK quote? Put up or shut up. Where is the statistics showing that only  racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic people are in fact deplorable, and the fact that they pay their taxes doesn't get them a free pass, were exclusively Trump voters. Prove it.  C'mon quote master, I will wait. But we know you can't stand behind your convictions, just gonna tuck the tail. Stretching what someone says, does not make it truth or fact. Stomping your feet and crying really really really loud doesn't make it the truth either. Hmmm, how do you know how long I knew about antifa? The ignorance, more than likely intentional, is on your end. Why your newfound outrage at the KKK? Have you mentioned them previously? LOL

Equating or implying I am a NAZI or any other thing you have tried to do, shows what an ignorant, spineless, coward you are. Trying to pigeon hole me because you have no balls to back up or prove your manufactured hatred and have not 1 fact on your side, says it all. Again, stick with the vagina hat. Sorry I disrupted your circle jerk.

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It's cool, Nulltard, I'll tag in on this one...


Here's what she said:

"You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?" Clinton said. "The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up."
She said the other half of Trump's supporters "feel that the government has let them down" and are "desperate for change."

So, which half do you fall into? If it's the first, yes, she called you "deplorable". And rightly so. If you don't fall into that half, you may not have "imagined" it, but you sure need to work on your reading comprehension.

Of course you will, group think FTW!!
 
The simple fact that you see nothing wrong with her calling ANY legal American tax paying citizen deplorable while trying to convince people she should lead this nation, speaks volumes. It's about respect, something you seem to have no concern for.

I suppose there's a problem with inviting the parents of a kid who was murdered to the White House in order to have a conversation that's critical to what's going on in the nation, but I'm having a hard time thinking of it. You've implied that he was a criminal, yet Treyvon had no real criminal record; only school suspension. But I suppose that was worth the death sentence. And, after all in the years since the incident, Zimmerman has proven himself to be a real solid citizen, worthy of your passionate support.

I never stated stance on Zimmerman. Will lefties ever evolve enough to realize it's isn't one or the other?  No, he had no reason to be killed or treated as some hero. Many parents lose children to violence a year, his was a high profile case, which in itself is a shame, because of what the media did with it. It was exploitation. Ya know, exactly what Trump was accused of doing a few posts back. You guys really don't like the shoe on the other foot do you?

I'm afraid you did imagine this one, pal. Debunked

On this, I admit a mistake. I was pissed about the illegal amnesty that the supreme court thankfully blocked. Funny how it was trying to be passed before the election. States knew they could not have the needed tools in time to stop illegals from voting undetected. I am no conspiracy theorist, but Obamas intentions were clear. And all Dems were in favor of it. And Dems still push for sanctuary cities. It's not difficult to see the intentions. The video portion you referred to, I was fooled by shortly after it was reported, but I saw it was debunked and never gave it much thought again. 

Am I the only one who'd never heard the term "antifa" until last weekend? And now it's like the new buzzword for every blubbering idiot trying to defend what went on in VA last weekend. "But what about antifa? Huh? Antifa! Antifa!" It's like the new "Snowflake" or "Cuck".

Anyway, "But what about ____?" is a lazy, 2nd grade argument.The Nazi dude killed someone, my friend. But what about that? I'll choose the side without the nazis every god damned time.

Yea, you probably are the only one. It isn't a new movement, but I suppose when turning a blind eye to reality and stretching the truth, I can see how it would get lost on a few. Only a lib would think you could pick up a turd by the clean end.

Hey, your boy was totally down with the protest. So what exactly is the problem?

Hmmm, you aren't too quick I guess. The left was protesting a free speech event. Still don't get it?! The left was protesting an event that was celebrating the very thing that gives them the freedom to PROTEST. Stick with vagina hats.

Once again, your reading comprehension needs some work.

"If you want to vote for a racist in the White House, then you better vote for Republicans," the former governor of Vermont said on MSNBC on Saturday.

Read it slowly. Carefully. It's okay. I'll wait.

No, crystal clear. Is it not the Left that has been accusing everyone who voted for trump a racist already? That is all you have shouted. And yet not any of you, can provided me with a statement from Trump about the KKK, david duke, or any other racist comment. Pick and choose I see.

Uh...what? Once you die does that erase your past racism? What are you even talking about? Like, "My Uncle Teddy was super racist and lynched a bunch of people. But it's all cool now. He's dead." WTF?

I admire your dedication and your love of the orange cool-aid. And I also really enjoy how Trump and his followers are all of a sudden preaching unity and peace. As though all that crazy shit that happened and was said - on film - during the election never happened.

We truly live in wondrous times.

It only seems they are preaching it recently to you, because you have been too busy with your morally superior crusade to notice the world and it's ideals do not revolve around only you!! Yay, you made the first step!! Next thing you know, you might figure out that there's millions of people who voted for someone they like and instead of pouting about it daily, maybe you can actually respect them and see the bigger picture, where it isn't just YOU in it!!!!!

Well, ya see, when you don't try to change history or pretend it can go away, you can do this thing called logic. I for example, do not wear any body coverings made of grass or straw. But at one time, people did!! Point is, it was a different time, slavery was a money maker. It was the way of the world. It wasn't considered wrong. Now, through evolving emotionally, mentally, spiritually, and respectfully, only a little of the world practices slavery. I know this is gonna hurt to find out but, everyone isn't  racist. Always been like that. You bought or traded for slaves to get shit done. So, throwing a tantrum about a guy thats been dead for over a 100 years, for the sake of racism is why the left is a bunch of idiots. If a statue hurts you, a picture hurts you, we all know words hurt you, you have got bigger problems in your life. Trying to pretend and ignore the past, is a path only fools would admire. Think of it like this, would you think it's appropriate 100 years from now that any reference to transsexuals should be erased from history? What if knocking your cock off isn't so cool 100 years from now? And all of those trannies, no matter their accomplishments, get thrown away forever because a group of people think they have the right to do so? Hell, what am I thinking. You guys think you have the authority to speak for everyone. Waste of time.

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Wow, where to even start? Lol... Nah, I'll pass.  This is up there with fake moon landing and flat Earth.

So I imagined being called deplorable?
"If I had a son......" treyvons parents weren't invited to the White House?
I imagined Obama telling illegals they can't be deported or punished for voting in the presidential election?
I did not really see antifa and leftist protesters in masks with whatever they could find in their hands shutting down conservative speakers? Or my favorite, this past weekends, ready for it?! PROTEST at the conservative FREE SPEECH rally in Boston? That was fake, correct?
Democrats and the left have not claimed I am racists because I side with trump? Dean today did not say if you vote republican, you are voting for racists?
The left is not calling dead people racist?

Shit, I thought my eyes and ears were still in good condition. Oh, just to make sure I am as delusional as you claim, can you point me to the exact quote where trump said he 100% supports the kkk or David duke? I have been organizing my flat earth pics and heard some rumblings about him really digging the kkk.

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1. Only an asshole would invite a dead criminals mother to the White House to further racial divide....clearly showing which side he stood for.

2. A smarter person would never stood in front of the American citizens and told illegals to go ahead vote, and manipulate our sacred voting process, with no repercussions.

3. If you are in a protest wearing masks and wielding anything you can to use as a weapon, to stop someone from speaking an opposing view, or calling to kill cops, you deserve to get lumped in with the trash.

4. The rallies and consequential removal and destruction of them have become about the left not being satisfied with all living people being racist that don't follow left agenda, now decade old dead people need to be called racist too. The left, never running out of ways to be bottom feeders.

5. Democrats and the left are at least a little bit racist. Nobody or group without a "racist bone in their bodies" would use and promote race for so many agendas. Denying people for years to speak openly on issues but pulling the you're racists to card to shut them up because they have no backbone.

6. Trump has been the only one calling for unity. The democrats and left are running their resist campaign. Once again showing they only care about themselves and show no respect for fellow Americans even in our voting process.

Trump refers to me as an American. the loser called me deplorable. I know where your group-think will lump me.

First it was 2 scoops of ice cream and now sunglasses!! The left and democrats sure should be gloating!!

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I have a PC Engine one, there are a few different ones, and yours is more or less the unofficial knock-off one. The 1st series of pics, with the harness, shows it was adapted to work with a TG and to work in a cabinet that may have been giving sync issues because of the +5/-5 line in addition to possibly working in an early or hacked up jamma cab. To use a TG instead of a PCE is really just switching a few wires around. There is a play timer which can be disabled with the dipswitches as well as attract sounds. It is 1 player only but hook a tap up and 2 player works on any 2 player simultaneous game just fine with a regular controller. You can wire 2 player controls thru the jamma harness by hacking a controller up. 6 button is possible on 1 and 2 player if you add some wires. Adjustment pots are for volume, brightness and RGB. I also added turbo switches to mine for both players. You are looking at about $25-$45 tops with no system included. Although uncommon, not really valuable, but cool as hell.

[Buy/Sell/Trade / WTB 2 controllers a Tap and a Tennokoe 2]

Hey all, I'm looking for a few things. Not looking for a bro deal, just working items. I need 2 controllers and a tap for a PC engine. I don't care about condition or color, and TurboDuo controllers or tap will be ok too.. They can be nasty looking, smelly, broken shells, whatever as long as the Turbo buttons function. The tap all I care about is ports 1 and 2 work. As for the tennokoe, pretty much the same deal, as long as it works, it's good to me. Paypal is ready. I have a new unopened Beeshu Ultimate arcade stick, Avenue 6 button controller boxed, and a regular white no turbo buttons controller that can be used as trade depending on pricing.

[Buy/Sell/Trade / Re: [USA] Turbografx CD in box, quite complete and works]

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[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Everdrive 2.4 Sound issue]

Is the Duo modded in any way or is it stock?   I have heard of issues with it working but never sound issues.

100% untouched US Duo, I purchased new. I have zero issues with any Hucards, or CD games. I tested on a US TG 16 and a PC Engine and all 3 have the issue with the Everdrive. A little static here and there I can live with but it's so bad, I can't turn volume up at all for any games. I have thought about trying different set of roms, just in case, but even without anything on the ED, as soon as I turned the system on, I got static.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Everdrive 2.4 Sound issue]

I did contact krikzz and he replied the issue is being looked into. Hope there's a solution because this sucks.

[Buy/Sell/Trade / Re: Need a PC Engine power supply adapter and RF]

A Tennokoe II is in the plans later on, but for now I just need all of this for testing. If anyone does have a RGB Tennokoe, I am up for that as well.

[Buy/Sell/Trade / Need a PC Engine power supply adapter and RF]

Like the title says, I need a plug for a PC Engine. Anyone have one sitting around they don't need? I don't have anything of value to trade, but I do have money. Doesn't need to look pretty, just something that works. Guess as long as I am paying for shipping, a working rf I guess too. Anything that will work on it, doesn't have to be original.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Everdrive 2.4 Sound issue]

That sucks. It's so bad I can't even turn volume up at all.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Everdrive 2.4 Sound issue]

Picked up a new Turbo Everdrive 2.4 version and have static as soon as I power the system on. All of my Hucards and CD games are fine, it just happens with the ED. This is on a US Duo. Anyone familiar with this or is it possible the ED is the problem?

[Console Repair/Mod Center / Re: Has anyone sucessfully done a TurboGrafx to jamma mod]

That's ok. As long as it couldn't outrun me, I'd hit it

[Console Repair/Mod Center / Re: Has anyone sucessfully done a TurboGrafx to jamma mod]

Its been done by different folks in different countries in different eras. It's easy, but I fail to see the point.

It's "whalers on the moon" style cultural/nostalgia misappropriation. You can't make the Turbo more totally radical and 80s by putting it in a giant box, you just make it less convinient.

We probably all like blondes or brunettes but occasionally you need the batshit crazy redhead for a change of pace.

[Console Repair/Mod Center / Re: Has anyone sucessfully done a TurboGrafx to jamma mod]

Yeah, those pop up occasionally so that's why I wondered if anyone as done one in the vein of the Genesis ones for example. Thanks for the link BTW

[Console Repair/Mod Center / Has anyone sucessfully done a TurboGrafx to jamma mod]

I searched a little and saw someone had worked on this a few years back. I also have seen on a few occasions the ones that were here in the US, but still can't find any that somebody has taken the time to do.

I would love to make one for a jamma cabinet. I am thinking this with an everdrive would be very cool.

Anyone have info or attempted to do this and successful? It appears something like this has never taken hold for lack of interest.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: TG-16 Games Complete Question]

http://www.collectard.com

Lol, who's the vainglorious, impoverished soul that came up with that scribble?

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: (2/21/2016 - 2/27/2016) Game of the Week: Yo, Bro!]

One of the few TG games I never did complete. Should give it a go again but my skills kinda suck nowadays.

[NEC Console Resource / Hey Guys!]

I remember lurking here a few years back and kinda forgot all about it until recently. So, I finally joined to most likely lurk again 

Anyways, I was fortunate enough to buy my TG 16 and Duo back in the day new. I still have all of my stuff and every US game. Holy crap did this stuff get pricey! But it's all getting used again. Used to collect games and systems but as you get older, tripping and falling on crap you don't use takes a lot longer to recover from so I sold off almost everything.

Interesting to see how far the scene has come for the TG/PCE/DUO stuff and I have enjoyed trying to catch up on stuff. I may not post much but it's nice coming back here again.