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#1
I know that this topic hasn't been added to in a while, but it's not the sort of topic that goes dead really so I thought I'd add to it with my current set-up:

I've taken one big picture and a couple of close-ups.

Main Picture:

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Close-up right:

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Back to front: Tectoy SMS3, PS2, Amiga CD32

Close-up left:

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Top to bottom: RetroCon (NES clone system), Mega Drive (on top of sky box), Master System (on top of DVD/VCR), PC Engine Duo

Close-up main systems:

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Not pictured in a little pile further to the right Amstrad GX4000, NEC Super Grafx, PS1 (I don't have room for everything to be set up at once!)

These are just the systems I have hooked up right now, and I couldn't possibly get all of my video game stuff together for one photo - staying in a smallish flat, it's scattered all over the place between four rooms and in various cupboards, on shelves, in drawers etc. Still, hope you enjoy!
#2
I've got a huge master system collection, complete Euro set including Les Schtroumps Autour Du Monde (Smurfs 2), almost complete US set and around 50 Brazilian Tectoy titles including Sonic Blast, Virtua Fighter Animation, Battlemaniacs, Fifa, X-men, Ren & Stimpy etc.

In the UK and France as well as other parts of Europe the master system was way more popular than the NES. As many have said, it was really Nintendo's (illegal) stranglehold on 3rd party developers that killed the master system in the US.

If most titles released for both the NES and the SMS are compared, the SMS is far superior in all areas barring sound 90% of the time. If only they'd released units with FM sound outwith Japan! :|
#3
General Gaming / Re: Best Sega card?
03/12/2008, 07:30 AM
Indeed, I've got a small markIII collection, but most games (except commons) and especially the accessories are hard to come by outside of Japan.
#4
Thanks very much for all the replies! If the duo runs a lot cooler with that unit then I think I might give it a bash. I'm not altogether sure about cutting and reattaching the connector mind you....  :?
#5
Well the power supply (I think it is the 124) for my PCE-duo has finally died. When I got the console a couple of years ago the wire was taped heavily where it joins the plug, and having stopped working I untaped it and it had clearly been hanging by a thread. I can't really be bothered fixing it, so was hoping somebody here might have a spare they'd be willing to part with for a small fee? (UK based if possible, anywhere else if shipping isn't too much).
#6
Quote from: guest on 01/28/2008, 09:02 PM
Quote from: nat on 01/27/2008, 02:44 PMWho wants to bet it'll be PSG only?
It'll probably be PSG only here and any games that supported fm will be fm only in Japan. :roll:
Shouldn't be too difficult for them to use FM music. Most SMS games released in North America and Europe actually had FM on the Rom, it was the consoles that didn't support the sound even though it was there. There was a thread a year or two on another forum that listed the games that had FM music hidden on them, and links to emulated versions of the games with the better quality sound.

As you say though, it'll likely only be PSG since they'll just bundle the games on to disc....
#7
Thought I'd list my collections in terms of what I'd class to be large (100+ games), medium (30-99 games) and small (less than 30 games).

Large collections: Sega Master System, NES

Medium collections: PCE, Megadrive, GBA, PS1, PS2, Nokia N-Gage (!)

Small Collections: NGPC, Game Gear, Atari Lynx, Amstrad GX4000 (!), Sega Mega-CD

I'm sure I'll have missed one or two, but that's the general idea.
#8
General Gaming / Re: Best Sega card?
03/10/2008, 06:06 PM
Quote from: guest on 03/05/2008, 11:14 AMI thought they were called Sega Cards - where did MyCard come from?  Anyway, the best use of the card slot was the 3-D Glasses, but since you're specifically asking for a card game, I'll pick Spy vs. Spy.

P.S. - Your link is broken.
MyCard is just what the cards were known as in Japan, as opposed North America & Europe.

And as for the question? Ghost House all the way!  :)
#9
lol!  :D Love the story - my girlfriend's kind of like that too and I LOVE to wind her up about it! Like the time I was on one of the sega forums I'm  a member on and someone somehow found out that if you take a SMS2 loose, and rub your hands incredibly fast over the vents at the back it makes a weird noise - so I waited 'til she was asleep then sneaked in under cover of darkness and began 'rubbing away' (sic) right over her head! Man she was annoyed!

But you see that's the thing - I found out that her being annoyed by my 80's and 90's stuff was HER weakness and not mine, so I now take every opportunity to annoy her!
#10
I never owned a PCE when I was young - not all that many people in the UK did at the time. I always had sega stuff, starting with the Master System and then the Megadrive. After joining ebay in 2002 I started filling in the gaps in my master system collection until I had virtually every master system game, system and accessory known to man  :) I needed something else to concentrate on and had always fancied getting hold of a PCE, so I did. Still didn't really know all that much about what games to get etc. and it was only really when I discovered sunteam's PCE software bible that I really got into the system. At the moment, I play using PCE-Duo and have a pretty good mix of CD & Hu-Card games, and getting into the PCE was definitely one of the best decisions I ever made.
#11
Off-Topic / Re: Your Age
05/29/2007, 05:19 PM
26. Wish I was still 19 though! My 20th year was definitely my best to date for a number of reasons!
#12
General Gaming / Re: Sega's best console
05/29/2007, 10:00 AM
Yeah, those voice samples from SMS SF2 are about right - I just played the cart to see and they are actually quite good. They're not bad on Mortal Kombat 2 and Robocop V Terminator as well.
#13
Yeah Davis cup is pretty good, only criticism I'd have is the difficulty level - the first couple of rounds lul you into a false sense of security letting you win really easily and then out of nowhere you get beaten hardly scoring a point! I've only got the cd version an the sound is great for it.
#14
Master system girl / super compact is awful. Good idea but really horrible to play on - it's just too big, and playing 2 player can just be annoying as the 2nd player joypad is effectively connected to your own controller (the system itself!).

Have to repeat what others have said about the game library - anyone who says it's limited obviously doesn't know anything about the system. I have around 300 unique games many of which are simply brilliant.

http://raccoonlad.topcities.com/compare/compare.html

Just to show the superiority in most games.  :wink:
#15
Quote from: GUTS on 01/30/2007, 02:20 AMThe worst part was that his ultra retarded auction page was seriously about 6000 words long and started off with something like "to meet the needs of my customers I am selling the parts of this seperately", all so he could charge 3 seperate $7.00 shipping prices.
See my previous posting on this - the guy may well NOT have been doing this to make more on postage. On the NES & SNES scene, a pretty sizeable amount of genuine collectors (I would actually say the majority) collect by picking up loose games, or boxed games without instructions then add boxes and instructions later when they can find them - it is a HELL of a lot cheaper than trying to find complete games that are in good condition because of the way the scene has gone the last couple of years. So on the face of it to people who don't know the scene that well I can see why people would think that - but anyone who actually knows it will tell you what I just have - so there's a good chance the seller is being 100% truthfull.
#16
A thread about this was started over at sega8bit a while before this one was and pretty much the same stuff was being said! If the guy wants to seperate carts and manuals to charge more on postage, if the same person gets both auctions they should just ask them to be combined - the seller can hardly refuse at the price the stuff is going for! And if they do refuse, undoubtedly the buyer could through paypal get back some of their money. Someone mentioned earlier that they hoped it was a dummy bidder so they would have to pay high fees - but they wouldn't if that were the case because you can submit that to ebay -  it happend to a friend of mine recently when one of these idiotic Nigerian Scammers bid a huge amount at the last second on an expensive phone she was selling. She had to tell ebay but they cancelled that guys user account and the next highest bidder automatically became the winner - although they then had the option to pull out.

As for why people are bidding so much? People who know the NES scene will tell you that one of the major problems with it is that in the last couple of years a lot of 'rich kid' collectors with wealthy mummy and daddy's have appeared on the scene because 'retro' is viewed as cool to a lot of people. They have pushed the prices up no end, and a lot of them are like 12 - 18 years old, not spending their own money or caring!

The NES scene is totally fu**ed up for a number of reasons like that, and many collectors don't care about box and manuals because unlike - say - PCE / SMS / Genesis etc. which all have hard cases, the NES all have cardboard boxes meaning tha getting a full collection of boxed IN GOOD CONDITION games is near impossible, and those that actually do try end up spending obscene amounts - a HELL of a lot more than this auction. I know personally of a guy who was selling privately in the states last year of around 300 mint boxed games (half the number of games here), and he was getting offers upwards of $50,000 and rejecting them. So the general consensus among most of the genuine collectors is that they collect all the games first if possible, and they view that if some have boxes and manuals it is a bonus, then they try to pick up spare boxes and manuals cheaply as and when they can to build that side of things.

It all depends on what a persons collecting aims are I suppose - there are three types of collectors IMO, the collector who displays all their stuff nicely and aims to get EVERYTHING to have a full collection, the collector who buys games they actually like to play and is more of a player than a collector who is not interested in collecting for collecting's sake, and the collector who is a bit of both - probably not as OCD as the firs collector but enjoys to play the games a lot too, probably more so than the first guy who would worry about things losing their 'mint' appeal  :D.

So anyway, I certainly wouldn't pay as much as this auction seems to be reaching, but being a NES collector and knowing the scene pretty well it doesn't surprise me in the least the way this auction is going.
#17
Ok, that's great! I'll try all that and let you know how I get on!  :)
#18
Yeah, it's definately japanese, it's the hit the ice card I got (complete), and I'm 100% certain it's the japanese version. It's on a PCE Duo, and yeah, the screen isn't black - it's like light actually, but nothing else, just a light screen! It's the only game that does it, or has ever done it on my machine.
#19
Any suggestions if a HuCard that looks immaculate just won't even load at all? (Jap system, Jap card). I've never had a problem with one before and it's not the system coz everything else loads perfectly...
#20
Quote from: guyjin on 01/25/2007, 12:44 PM
Quote from: guest on 01/25/2007, 09:17 AMBubble Bobble SMS is as arcade perfect as graphics got back then. All it's missing is FM sound.
I MUST HAVE IT!

QuoteMiracle Warriors is the best. If you're used to modern games, it may be hard to adjust.
yeah, I find it easier to get into old games that I played 'back in the day' than ones i've never played before, and I suspect that's the reason.
For me it's probably the opposite - I love getting games that I probably wanted when I was a kid but couldn't afford - (nobody could afford a collection of like 100+ games when I was young, I think the most games I had was about 35 - 40 and I was damn proud of that!) - So playing all these games now still gives me a thrill!
#21
As well as those mentioned, Mortal Kombat (either I or II - stay away from III, it's awful!), Ren & Stimpy (although you'll struggle to get it - it's brazilian Import only), Any of the disney titles - Mickey mouse in Castle of Illusion, Land of Illusion or Legend of Illusion, Donald Duck in Lucky dime caper or deep duck trouble, Lion King etc. Golvellius, Xenon II, Any of the Sonic Games, Micro Machines (it's awesome!!!).
#22
Quote from: turbo_sage on 01/23/2007, 06:09 PMput my vote for NES-

Truly can't figure out why anyone would vote otherwise........
As I've said before, I collect for both SMS & NES, both are completely different systems with a different range of games that will appeal to different people. Nothing personal, but what I've quoted is a really dumb statement to make.
#23
Quote from: Tatsujin on 01/23/2007, 12:39 AMI always was asking my self what kind of ugly, huge and clumsy mains plug you UK people have. quite hilarious :D
Yup, it is very clumsy and large (and fu**ing painful when you step on it!!!), but also a LOT safer than most 2 pin US / Jap plugs which aren't earthed. (I know that there are US 3 pin plugs, but the 2 pin ones are still commonplace). Hmm, the inconvenience of a slightly larger plug, or death by mains electricity, which would I rather have?......  :wink:
#24
Quote from: guest on 01/22/2007, 09:12 PM
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 01/22/2007, 12:04 AMYou should play more SMS games besides Alex the Kidd.  Also try:  Psycho the Fox, Space the Harrier, Out the Run, Wonder the Boy in Monster the Land, Chop the Lifter and of course Missile the Defense 3D!
Don't forget The Boy Wonder III : Curse the Dragon:P
Hey.... Hey.... My turn!..... What about The Ninja?!?..... Oh wait, that actually IS its name.....  :D
#25
Yeah, I know ChaoticJelly from over at sega8bit where he regularly posts. He's a good guy and REALLY knows his stuff when it comes to modding pretty much every system. He's done stuff for a lot of people I know.
#26
Quote from: Keranu on 01/21/2007, 11:16 PM
Quote from: kungfukid on 01/21/2007, 02:37 PMI've not even got any of the baseball games for the PCE, in spite of the large amount available! Which would people say are the best ones? I'll probably pick up a couple because I do like baseball games.
Check out any of the Power League games, doesn't really matter which one since they are all pretty similar and a lot of fun. The Pro Yakyuu is also a really nice baseball game (it's for CD) and is also pretty similar to the Power League games. If you (or anyone else) happens to come across that baseball RPG for CD, please let me know what it's like as I'm dying to hear about that game!
Ok, cheers! I'll definitely pick one or two of them up at some point!
#27
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 01/22/2007, 12:04 AMYou should play more SMS games besides Alex the Kidd.  Also try:  Psycho the Fox, Space the Harrier, Out the Run, Wonder the Boy in Monster the Land, Chop the Lifter and of course Missile the Defense 3D!
Hahahahaha!!!! I'm so glad someone picked that up! I just looked at the board coz I'm just out of bed and was seeing what had been posted from when I was on last night, and I HATE it when people call the game Alex the Kidd! Could NEVER understand it. Different if his name was Alex KID because then it would be a smple mistake to make. But what the hell is a KIDD???? People who say that 99% of the time are those who have never really given the system a fair shake, coz they don't even know the name of one it's best and most popular games! But, at the same time, if someone says they don't like a system there is usually little point trying to change their mind.
#28
Quote from: guest on 01/21/2007, 05:57 PMKinda like Generation NEX's <1% incompatibility. But some people still get upset about that.  :roll:
Yeah, that's a pretty good comparison actually! Shame that the PCE / Turbografx has major compatibility issues without a HUcard convertor eh!  :wink: And yet it is still our console of choice!
#29
Yeah, if I remember rightly that may be the only one, but I think there may be literally 2 or 3 at the very most, which out of 300+ pal games is not many!
#30
Quote from: guest on 01/21/2007, 03:31 PM
Quote from: Tron on 01/21/2007, 01:02 AMNES/Famicom all the way.

Btw i don't have a problem with the sms i gave it a chance years ago.

I'd pick it up from ebay and gave it a try for fun since i didn't own one then.

While it's graphics and sound did impress me. It's lack of games that i enjoy on the nes wasn't, there and... it's loose controlls annoey the hell out of me.

So befor long i sold the whole thing i just perfer the nes more.

As for Atari 7800 never got into it so dunno.
I think the problem was just your lack of knowledge of SMS games. Not only is there a ton of great games that were released in North America, there're hundreds(?) more that were released internationally that can be played with any converters/mods. It's pretty much exactly the same deal as the TurboGrafx-16.

As for the loose controls, I know that every game doesn't have crap gameplay, so I'm assuming the problem was your pad. The standard SMS pads with the joystick knob work great, but you can also use any Genesis pad as well. I usually use the Genesis 6-button controller.
I think what you meant is that the European games released can be played WITHOUT any kind of adaptor! lol! Probably just a typo! Yeah, there are a lot more that were released in other countries including Europe and Japan. There really are a vast amunt of awesome SMS games out there!
#31
Hmm, each to their own, people will always have different viewpoints on this issue. Personally, I just don't buy it. I think if people carry out violent acts they were always going to do it. I think they play the video game (HU :D)card to try and justify or identify where their actions have come from, but in my opinion it is just not true. There are unfortunately evil people in this world, and there isn't always an explanation for the ways they act - it's the media who actively SEEK a reason or something to link the behaviour to, even if it isn't there. Oh boy I know all about media manipulation, unfortunately had to study the damn stuff as part of my degree at uni. Just my opinion of course, others are entitled to theirs!
#32
Eh? I don't understand what you mean by 'silly nannies'??
#33
What are you guys talkingabout?!? People DO copy what they see in video games all the time! Only last week I travelled the world and got together a bunch of people who can make fireballs shoot from their hands and competed in a fighting tournament a la Street Fighter 2! And yesterday I copied various shooters when I climbed into my spaceship, went to another galaxy and raced about shooting aliens - it was fun - I enjoyed it - and I don't see anything wrong with it!!!  :wink:

I've never heard such an absolute lot of crap as the idiots who think people go out and copy violence in video games - unless you're unbelievably literally retarded, I think 99.99999% of the population know the difference between what is acceptable in a video game and what is acceptable in real life!
#34
I've not even got any of the baseball games for the PCE, in spite of the large amount available! Which would people say are the best ones? I'll probably pick up a couple because I do like baseball games.
#35
 :D Can take Hit the ice off the list, I've managed to negotiate a deal to get a complete copy for $20 shipped from somebody. So just TV Sports Hockey (Jap) I need now!
#36
Quote from: Keranu on 01/21/2007, 03:08 AMAmerican football blows, and this is coming from an American.
Hahahaha!!!  :D I used to get complimentary VIP tickets to go see the Scottish Claymores when they used to play in NFL Europe a few years ago (they disbanded 2 years ago), and whilst I enjoyed the nice leather heated seats I was given, I always found the game itself frustrating! Start, stop, start, stop.....
#37
Quote from: Tron on 01/21/2007, 01:02 AMWhile it's graphics and sound did impress me. It's lack of games that i enjoy on the nes wasn't, there and... it's loose controlls annoey the hell out of me.
I always find it strange when people say things like this. The whole reason I buy other consoles and systems is to play a different range and style of games. The SMS is way different to the NES, which is way different from the AES, which is different from the PCE etc. etc. For example, to me the NES games in general were aimed at a slightly younger gamer than the SMS - if you look at the range of games in general you can see that. Nothing wrong with either, but as I said - that's why I enjoy collecting for different consoles. I would never discount say the PCE because it 'doesn't have the same range of games as the Genesis'. And it's not as if the SMS catalogue is limited - there are well over 300 individual games to get hold of plus a world of variations for those who like that kind of thing (I can never be bothered).

As for the controls - that's just the standard ones, (which in my opinion are a lot better than the NES ones anyway, my hand almost goes into cramp after about 30 mins on an original NES controller) there are a lot better official sega controllers and third party ones...

Before anyone get's annoyed, that's just my opinion - and I collect for and play both systems and love the SMS & the NES!
#38
Yeah, for some reason I can never get into (American) football games, I just find them too 'stop/start', a bit like the game itself I guess! Give me rugby any day!  :D In fact, that's a point, you hardly ever see a good rugby game for consoles! (I know EA dabbled a bit and released one or two in the early 90's, but other than that...). Would be good to play one too...
#39
Quote from: stevek666 on 01/20/2007, 10:32 AM
Quote from: kungfukid on 01/20/2007, 10:24 AM:( I'm sad nobody could help me out. Ah well, back to hunting the internet then!
As luck would have it, I have duplicate copies of PCE  TV Sports Football and TV Sports Basketball, but I don't have Hockey at all.

I thought the TV Sports PCE games were more useful as replacement jewel cases; it's nice to hear someone actually plays them :).
I know, there seem to be copies of those 2 quite a few places, and don't get me wrong, I could pick up a TV Sports Hockey today, but it's a brand new sealed copy that costs like £27 ($55), and I'm just not willing to pay that. I'll probably end up just waiting til one pops upon ebay, because they don't usually go for much more than £5 - £10 ($10 - $20).

I'd actually like to get hold of the Basketball one, but stuff I've read doesn't speak too highly of it...
#40
Just as a matter of interest, because they don't seem to get mentioned that much here, does anyone actually like the sports games on the PCE? I personally love Davis Cup Tennis CD, and the CD J-League tremendous soccer. Also I love the F1 Circus games, and shamefully admit to loving BattleField Pro Wrestling '94!!!! (although the rest of the wrestling games on the system are crap!) :D
#41
 :( I'm sad nobody could help me out. Ah well, back to hunting the internet then!
#42
Ahh, we're getting too deep into this now and gonna make my head hurt! lol!  :D Depends on the circumstances... and depends on whether you're talking about 'accidental' damage, negligence, theft or fraudulant misrepresentation.... Ok, if for example you were taking an action against the establishment and proceedings were underway, then at some point you discoverred about this untrustworthy persons actions, that would be classed as a 'novus actus interveniens' (or in English as opposed to Latin - a new thing intervenes), and so the nature of the case would have been altered. The active proceedings would end pending a case being built regarding the new circumstance... PHEW!!! But usually all of this would have been discovered at any discovery hearing (unlikely EVER to happen in reality because who is gonnna start a court action over a jacket unless it's a damn expensive jacket!!!! Although that is the theory!). There are far too many ifs, buts and maybes in a lot of these types of cases...
#43
Quote from: Tatsujin on 01/20/2007, 08:26 AMhttp://www.isnichwahr.de/redirect18684.html

n-joy O:)
That was trippy, freaky weird! Like a post modern Salvador Dali done in Flash! I actually sat and watched the whole thing! lol! Scariest bit is the dude with his mouth taking up his whole head!
#44
SMS rules! Sonic, Wonderboy, R-Type, Ys, Phantasy Star, Miracle Warriors, Mickey Mouse, Asterix, Alex Kidd, Mortal Kombat, SF2, Need I go on???
#45
Quote from: Dark Fact on 01/19/2007, 12:19 AMIn that case, what good are waivers at all if people are just gonna sue anyway? :-s
Truth is, companies have to be very careful with waivers. For example, if it was a cake eating contest and somebody choked to death BUT there had been medical assistance available - however they couldn't help and the person died anyway - THEN the chances are the waiver would be ok because the station would've taken all the precautions necessary. The problem here is that the station DIDN'T take all the precaustions that a proper risk analysis would've highlighted, and so are negligent. It's a fine line.

A lot of the time waivers are not legally enforceable though, a lot of companies just use them to try and escape their obligations and limit their liability even though they wouldn't stand up in court. The most common one is in cloakrooms at nightclubs and restaurants etc. where they say that jackets left are at the owners risk and so they don't take any responsibility. If the cloakroom has staff manning it it doesn't matter what they say - it IS their responsibility and you CAN reclaim any loss. It's only if there is no staff that they can play that card.

There are loads of other examples - thing to remember is that in most cases, a waiver does not affect your statutory rights, it's basically a 'gentlemans agreement' if you will.
#46
Quote from: guest on 01/18/2007, 12:18 AM@ Dark Fact:  I've had green tea ice cream before, and it's damn good stuff.  That comment was my pathetic attempt at a Homer Simpson comment.  I guess the drooling smiley didn't translate too well.

Back To Topic:  I saw on MSN that ten employees have been fired from the radio station so far.  It looks like they are trying to limit their liability.  While simply drinking water is not harmful - water intoxication can be dangerous.  Fatalities are rare, but it isn't that uncommon for medical care being given for hyponatremia.  In the article that I read, one of the other contestants stated that she appeared sick.  It's been less than two years since the Chico State student's death, so the radio station should have known that she needed medical attention.  The other side of the coin is that she should have sought medical attention before going home.
Yup, you're correct. Even if the waiver did say that you waive the possibility of negligence on either side it doesn't matter - because it would be considered an unfair contract term and thus void. (In the US & UK, the law does not recognise that you can consent to your own harm or danger in negligence cases, it is inferred that you don't consent for a negligent act to be carried out upon you). Plus, as mentioned, in the summer especially hospitals DO get plenty of cases of people who have taken on board too much liquid - it is actually pretty common (although people don't often die). But in a case like this, this sort of competitiion would have to have had a risk analysis done and passed by health and safety before the competition. AND it is entirely forseeable in a water drinking and holding competition (especially one carried out on media such as radio or TV adding to the pressure) that someone might drink enough to become ill! In my eyes (and the eyes of my law degree), that constitutes negligence in allowing the competition to proceed & especially in not having the contestants checked out after it finished - if they had simply had a medical expert check her afterwards when she felt ill, chances are she'd still be alive today.
#47
Quote from: Keranu on 01/17/2007, 06:19 PMDo you enjoy eating donuts too? :)
As it happens, I do enjoy the odd double chocolate one yes....  :D Meh, not really that into junk food in general to be honest, and am not turning American - I own my own Kilt and everything!!!!
#48
Quote from: guest on 01/17/2007, 12:05 PM
Quote from: Dark Fact on 01/17/2007, 01:23 AMHowever, if they've signed a waiver with the radio station, the family can't sue them.
Don't be so sure.  This is the USA, and since when is a valid reason required for suing?  The waiver should help with any civil case, but it will not protect them from criminal proceedings.  No paperwork offers protection from illegal activities (i.e. euthanasia in most states).  Once the radio station is found guilty of criminal action, a civil case is sure to follow.  I agree Dark Fact - the station should pay up even if they don't get sued.

P.S. - Ummmmmm... Green tea ice cream.  =P~
Yeah, if negligence on the part of the company has played a part (ie they didn't seek proper medical advice on what they were going to do, or didn't have health and safety permission, or were in breach of health and safety regulations in running the competition, as well as a number of other possibilities), the waiver won't actually make any difference - it is still possible to successfully raise a civil case since a waiver doesn't in any way alter your statutory rights...
#49
Lol! Of course I am! I love all the NHL EA games, I've been to see my local team near me play a number of times (my uncle used to coach them), and my Female cousin plays in Goal for the Australian national womanse Ice Hockey team! I'd love to get either or both of these games!