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[Buy/Sell/Trade / Re: Ultimate Freebie: US Turbo Duo - ends December 16th -RULES UPDATED / RELAXED]

please add me, been trying to find one since I was forced to sell my TurboGraf-16.

[Buy/Sell/Trade / Re: Raffle: Klax]

count me in also please.

[Buy/Sell/Trade / Re: WTB: TG-16]

how much were you looking to spend on the console.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Best looking HU-card/turbo chip games graphics wise.]

Not sure if this has been asked before but what are the best looking games graphic wise I could get to show off my TurboGrafx-16. Also I do have the PC engine converter, currently Dragon Saber and Final Soldier, among other like the first 2 bonk games and Dungeon Explorer and Splatterhouse. Thanks for your time.

[Buy/Sell/Trade / Re: WTB:Price check/avaibility on a TurboDuo,Grafx CD for sale. TurboDUO or DUO-R]

I should probably mention that I already have a HU-Card Converter for my Turbo.

[Buy/Sell/Trade / Re: Free: Duplicate Hu-Cards]

congrats T E F!!

Thank you.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: are the Bit wars dead.]

Most people don't even know how many "bits" any of the current gen systems are...I don't anyway, so I'm pretty sure the debate is dead.

It made a lot more sense when it directly effected the visuals. A 16-bit system can more easily handle a sprite with 16-bit color depth, a 16-bit audio chip can more easily handle 16-bit samples, but now...the processor bandwidth is massively beyond any reasonable depth of color. The human eye just can't see anything more defined than 24-bit color, and the current spec for DTS audio, which is WELL within the capabilities of any new system (license aside) is the best thing you're ever going to need.

most consoles use 32-64 bit CPU's not sure about GPU. I know the Wii only uses about 88MB main memory and 3 for the GPU so thats 91MB of memory for the whole system.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: are the Bit wars dead.]

The pcengine is only a fake 16bit. Nec knew this and lied to consumers to trick them into buying crappy nes games. The pcengine cant do parallax because its not real 16bits. The games have nes sound and Nec had to release a bios upgrade in a cdrom just to try to compete. But it couldnt because the cpu was still the exact same one the nes has and thats why the pcengine was in last place. If the pcengine was 16bits it would have alien soldier and pilot wings. I played deep blue and golden axe and the mode 7 wasnt as good as on snes.

well then I guess modern consoles are still 32-64 bit then if you only go by the CPU. Modern systems the CPU is not the most important anymore, it is the GPU that matters, just like the PC engine with its 16-bit GPU. Also the CPU's are not the same the PC engine's is over twice as fast as the NES, it has one of the fastest 8-bit CPU's actually. That is like saying a Atari Jaguar is not 64 bit just because the N64 could do textures, it was simple an older simplirer version of 64 bit compared to the N64. The SNES was 4 years newer then the PC engine so of course it had some new tricks and advancments compared to the PC engine, that's like saying the Atari 2600 was not 8-bit just because the NES could do more things.

what do you mean by that?

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: are the Bit wars dead.]

Oh no you cant play a crappy football game online, DANG.

CRAPPY FOTTBALL GAME!?!?!?!?!?! YOU NO THAT NLF 2K WAS TEH GRATEST FOTTBALL GAME EVUR IN TEH HISTORY OF VIDO GAMS!!!  DONT' U!?  KNOW OF CORSE U WOULDN'T, YOUR TOOO BIZY PLAYGNI YOUR RETORDED NIS ROLPAYING GAMEZ!

LUK I FOUND A PICTURE OF AKRAN-


ISTN HE THE BIGEST FAGGIT OR WHIT?

You're right.  lets add in Folklore, the NIS/Atlus RPGs, Time Crisis 4, Catherine, Heavenly Sword, GOW, and some other stuff

Alright, fine perhaps I have lots to try before I write off the PS3 as worthless. 

Whats the 360 exclusives that really make it so great?

None.  This isn't like the 16-bit wars where Genesis games were Genesis games, SNES games were SNES games, and Turbo games were fucking awesome TURBOB games.  Exclusive games actually mattered then.

What we have now are two systems that both suck, and are nearly identical in the amount of suck that they are! 

Oh, and the Wii.

I agree, NFL 2K series was awesome. Why do you EA paid for the exclusive right for the NFL teams, they were scarred when Sega said they would release a better football series for cheaper. That also happened to be selling better and catching up to Madden which they charged 60 bucks for every year when the updates are usually so small they could just update the previous game with DLC and charge people less.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: are the Bit wars dead.]

The pcengine is only a fake 16bit. Nec knew this and lied to consumers to trick them into buying crappy nes games. The pcengine cant do parallax because its not real 16bits. The games have nes sound and Nec had to release a bios upgrade in a cdrom just to try to compete. But it couldnt because the cpu was still the exact same one the nes has and thats why the pcengine was in last place. If the pcengine was 16bits it would have alien soldier and pilot wings. I played deep blue and golden axe and the mode 7 wasnt as good as on snes.

well then I guess modern consoles are still 32-64 bit then if you only go by the CPU. Modern systems the CPU is not the most important anymore, it is the GPU that matters, just like the PC engine with its 16-bit GPU. Also the CPU's are not the same the PC engine's is over twice as fast as the NES, it has one of the fastest 8-bit CPU's actually. That is like saying a Atari Jaguar is not 64 bit just because the N64 could do textures, it was simple an older simplirer version of 64 bit compared to the N64. The SNES was 4 years newer then the PC engine so of course it had some new tricks and advancments compared to the PC engine, that's like saying the Atari 2600 was not 8-bit just because the NES could do more things.

[Buy/Sell/Trade / Re: WTB:Price check/avaibility on a TurboDuo,Grafx CD for sale. TurboDUO or DUO-R]

Just wondering what is the main difference between a Duo-R and a Duo-R/X.

[Buy/Sell/Trade / Re: WTB:Price check/avaibility on a TurboDuo,Grafx CD for sale. TurboDUO or DUO-R]

I voted Duo-R because I didn't see a vote for the Duo_RX

Cheapest unmoddified Duo-RX i have seen

http://www.gameofjapan.com/product_info.php?products_id=9207

that seems like a good deal compared to ebay, the only thing I would be worried about is shipping. I currently live in Indiana so I would probably use EMS shipping, do they offer that. how much would it cost.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / are the Bit wars dead.]

I have noticed on many comparison videos on YouTube comparing games that were on the PC engine/TurboGrafx, Genesis, and SNES that there is at least one person who starts to bring up bits and how the TurboGrafx is actually 8-bit just because its CPU is not 16-bit. Which I find aggravating and strange seeing as consoles since the PS1 have relied on GPU's just like how the TurboGrafx did. consoles these days run off of 32-64 bit CPU's so by there thinking modern consoles are still 32-64 bit which makes no sense it is the GPU that matters right? What are other people's thoughts on this. Thanks for your time.

[Buy/Sell/Trade / WTB:Price check/avaibility on a TurboDuo,Grafx CD for sale. TurboDUO or DUO-R]

I have recently gotten into the PC engine scene by buying a TurboGrafx and was wondering if anyone had a TurboDuo or TurboGrafx CD for sale and what is reasonable price to pay for one, probably can't afford one right know but was wondering what a good price would be for one and if any one did have one for sale, might get on this Christmas so it is not a buy now thing, just seeing how often they come up and for what price. Thanks for your time. I hope this is in the right section.
Also TurboDuo or Duo-R

EDIT: I should probably mention that I already have a HU-Card Converter for my Turbo.

[Buy/Sell/Trade / Re: WTS: Hucard games up for grabs!!]

PM sent on Street Fighter 2.

[Buy/Sell/Trade / Re: For Sale: Turbo Grafx 16/ Duo Games one Pc Engine one Super Grafx Game]

We'll see how many months it will take before he responds to our PMs 

Is he really on here that rarely, I hope not.

[Buy/Sell/Trade / Re: For Sale: Turbo Grafx 16/ Duo Games one Pc Engine one Super Grafx Game]

PM sent regarding TurboGrafx CD units.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: What Turbo game are you currently playing?]

I am currently Playing World Class Baseball, Bonks Revenge. Hoping to soon be playing Dragon Saber, Final Soldier, and R-Type.

[Buy/Sell/Trade / Re: Free: Duplicate Hu-Cards]

Hey guys.  TurboExpressFan  was quick on the draw with these games this morning.  He grabbed em both.  I will post more as I get dupes, but I assume they will go just as fast since I will be giving them away. 

Thanks a lot, I will have to keep a look out for you in the market place. Have a nice day and thanks for doing this.

[Buy/Sell/Trade / Re: For Sale: Turbo Grafx 16/ Duo Games one Pc Engine one Super Grafx Game]

Okay then, I am still interested and wondering if you still had any of the Turbo Grafx CD system for sale and how much. Do they include the system cards. Could you send some pictures of the boxed and unboxed ones too. Thanks for your time.

[Buy/Sell/Trade / Re: Free: Duplicate Hu-Cards]

oops forgot to reply PM sent when I asked today at 9:08 AM. Sorry about that guys, still a bit new.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Opinion of certain PC engine games]

Thanks for all the reply's. Though I should probably mention that I do not own the CD attachment for it as of yet. Also what is a good price for Dragon Saber, the cheapest I can seem to find it is  for $25 including shipping from the USA.

[Buy/Sell/Trade / Re: FS: Turbo Grafix Games]

PM sent.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Opinion of certain PC engine games]

I am currently thinking of getting a few games and was wondering what people's opinions of them. Raiden(love the game and think the PC engine has the best version out of the consoles available at that time), Dragon Saber(love the music for the system, who ever said the PC engine sound chip still sounds 8-bit), Aero Blasters(2 player goodness), Final Soldier(again love the music), Space Harrier(a bit of a SEGA fan), Dungeon Explorer(multiplayer role playing and great music, what more could a person ask for) Already own Bonk 1 and 2, am addicted to 2 right now. Are there any other good games I should now off.

Final Soldier and Dragon Saber are both sequels. Do you already have Super Star Soldier and Dragon Spirit? I found Final Soldier to be too easy, Super Star Soldier is a bit more challenging and the flame weapon is more fun to use.

Image Fight and Mr Heli are a couple of awesome Japanese HuCard games that should be fairly cheap. If you enjoy 2D platforming and the old adventure Island series on NES, you've gotta grab JJ and Jeff.

Thanks for the suggestions, just wondering is Image Fight and Final soldier multiplayer or just single, already bought Final Soldier. Trying to find a co-op shooting game for the system as I do no have any yet that I know of(Final Soldier is still in the mail).

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Opinion of certain PC engine games]

Raiden(love the game and think the PC engine has the best version out of the consoles available at that time)

You can bet one on that!

Final Fight(again love the music).

That's one hard to find, lol! But wish you good luck anyway

Oops, I meant to say Final Soldier, did not even notice the mistake until know.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Opinion of certain PC engine games]

I am currently thinking of getting a few games and was wondering what people's opinions of them. Raiden(love the game and think the PC engine has the best version out of the consoles available at that time), Dragon Saber(love the music for the system, who ever said the PC engine sound chip still sounds 8-bit), Aero Blasters(2 player goodness), Final Soldier(again love the music), Space Harrier(a bit of a SEGA fan), Dungeon Explorer(multiplayer role playing and great music, what more could a person ask for) Already own Bonk 1 and 2, am addicted to 2 right now. Are there any other good games I should now off.

[Buy/Sell/Trade / WTB: TurboGrafx-16 or possibly PC engine games.]

Hello. I am new to the TurboGrafx-16 and am currently looking for games preferably complete with plastic sleeve. Already own Bonk 1 and 2, World Class Baseball and Dungeon Explorer, also should be getting a PC engine converter from a member from Atari age for free(said he got a PC engine and does not need it anymore, shipped it out last week but I have yet to receive it.) looking for these games first. Salamander for the PC engine complete also interested in Raiden and Aero Blaster, Dragon Saber, and Final Soldier as well as others games for the system in general, just starting. Also prefer using pay-pal is possible. Thanks for your time.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Hated TG-16 then, love it now.]

Interesting.  I wonder, were these rules well known among players/press at the time or was the industry still young enough that people didn't pay attention to the business details?  (I was young enough to not pay attention, anyway!   ^_-)

Some of the industry trade publications (which in the late 80s really just consisted of EGM and little else) did report on things like that sparsely. Tengen made a lot of noise at the time where, rather than abide by Nintendo's licensing restrictions they started publishing unlicensed games (after having published three licensed titles), Color Dreams was next (they were a licensed Nintendo publisher, but decided to follow Tengens lead and make unlicensed carts, rather than deal with Nintendo's high minimum order requirements, slow turnaround time, content restrictions and other regulations by the late 1980s), then other publishers started to pop up publishing unlicensed carts rather than deal with Nintendo's rules.

A few of the early publishers, Tecmo, SNK, Activision, Bandai had different licensing deals with Nintendo that allowed them to do things like manufacture cartridge components themselves (Nintendo produced almost all third party cartridges themselves and took a healthy chunk of profit in doing so and by 1989 had very high minimum order requirements) among other things. This also led to a lot of NES games using different mappers than their famicom counterparts, one exception was Koei who produced their own custom mappers for some US NES carts. Other situations like Castlevania III led to substitute mappers produced by Nintendo being used, and as a result inferior ports of games from the Famicom originals.

Anyway, I've gone off on a long tangent. But yeah, Nintendo had a lot of third party restrictions in the NES heyday.

Yet that is one things most people and Nintendo do not discuss very often, it seems that Nintendo do not want to many people to realize they were a monopoly and broke the law to get were they are today, at least in the begging.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Over priced converters????]

$100 for a converter is fucking INSANE. You can get an entire PC Engine for that. If people are paying even more for these things now then that's just even more stupid.

These US collectors, the ones that apparently are so hardcore they pay unlimited money for shit yet have never been to this forum...who the fuck are these morons?

I am a US collector and I am on this forum and resent being called a moron sire, maybe they do not come to this forum because of over self centered people like you. Good day sire.

I believe Zeta is referring to those who collect plus pay whatever price it takes to own a piece of NEC history. It seems that these collectors don't want to join our forum because they know we don't take this high dollar business lightly. Have a good one!

Okay I see.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: TG16 on AOTS]

I only watch G4 for X-Play, they seem to be right on most of the time and it has been going since 1998(wikipedia has a page over its history) and has had over 1000 episodes, they give game reviews, interviews and upcoming news on games and technology. Plus both of the people running the show used to do game reviews and other shows for the network before those shows were cancelled like Adam Sessler who is the only cast member from ZDTV left when it changed to TechTV then to G4. Some of his favorite series are Halo for its first person shooter qualities; the Japanse version of Rez for its Trance Vibrator feature; the Banjo-Kazooie, Rayman, Ratchet and Clank, Bonk, and Sly Cooper series for their unique platform qualities. and Morgan Webb who not only does the show but has also became a contributing game columnist for FHM and is also a survivor from TechTV.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Over priced converters????]

$100 for a converter is fucking INSANE. You can get an entire PC Engine for that. If people are paying even more for these things now then that's just even more stupid.

These US collectors, the ones that apparently are so hardcore they pay unlimited money for shit yet have never been to this forum...who the fuck are these morons?

I am a US collector and I am on this forum and resent being called a moron sire, maybe they do not come to this forum because of over self centered people like you. Good day sire.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: TG16 on AOTS]

I just love how they completely ignore how well the system did in Japan only talk about how poorly it did her in the states compared to the SNES, which was 6 years newer.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Hated TG-16 then, love it now.]

That was definitely part of it. I forget the exact details, but I think developers couldn't port over a game to another console within a one or two year period, or something like that. It's crazy how Nintendo has changed over the years, at least in perception. They were, in many ways, worse, or just as bad as Microsoft in their worst days. Absolute power really does corrupt absolutely.

The issue wasn't with developers, the issue was with publishers, lots of games were developed multi-platform but only a few publishers had development agreements with Nintendo that preceded their monopolistic license agreements in the NES era. The result was that it made it very difficult for third parties to publish for other platforms. Sega had only a very small band of Genesis third parties(Renovation, EA, Accolade who was making unlicensed games, Treco) until 1992 which was after the Genesis took off due to the marketing of Sonic and packing it in (instead of Altered Beast) with the system.

Right. Yeah, I confused publishers with developers.

If I remember correctly a publisher could only release 5 games a year for the NES and had to wait 2 years before it could be published on other systems, if any of these rules were broken Nintendo would short the boards for the games(seeing as Nintendo were the only ones to make the boards that could get past the security) during holiday seasons so that Publisher would make less money.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: New to TurboGrafx-16, is there anything I should know.]

What do people think of Dragon Egg.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: New to TurboGrafx-16, is there anything I should know.]

Ahhh..  with your converter, you certainly have opened up a new world.  Tons of awesome games never released here can be had for your system.  Check out the seller, HitofJapan on ebay.  He carries tons of games for the PC Engine, and his prices are normally fair.  I buy from him a lot.

Thanks for the advice, what games would recommend getting for the converter. I have done a bit of Neo Geo buying when it comes to games but just starting with this, actually decided to get out of the Neo Geo scene for now(expensive) and got a TurboGrafx instead. I think I might have actually have gotten the Neo Geo from him. What are some good plat-formers for the system besides Bonk. Thanks for the help.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: New to TurboGrafx-16, is there anything I should know.]

If you meant Dragon Spirit, it's not very special by TG-16 standards.

I should probably have mentioned that I was able to find a converter so I did mean Dragon Saber.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Hated TG-16 then, love it now.]

Was Nintendo also ahead because of the monopoly like practices and exclusive contracts with game companies that were found to be illegal later on when the US government took them to court over it.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: New to TurboGrafx-16, is there anything I should know.]

Thanks for the advice, already have the first 2 bonks and had my Eye on Aero Blaster and Dungeon Explorer, how good is Dragon Saber, seems to have good music.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / New to TurboGrafx-16, is there anything I should know.]

I am currently in the process of getting a TurboGrafx-16 and was wondering what must have games are there for the system. What games usually cost and any other advice you might be willing to give to a TurboGrafx newbie. Thanks for your time. Will most likely be hooking it up to a Sanyo or sansui 19inch LCD TV or 13 inch Zenith CRT.

[Buy/Sell/Trade / Re: For Sale: Turbo Grafx 16/ Duo Games one Pc Engine one Super Grafx Game]

I was wondering if you still had any of the Turbo Grafx CD system for sale and how much. Do they include the system cards.

[Buy/Sell/Trade / Re: MASSIVE TURBOGRAFX-16 COLLECTION FOR SALE OR TRADE]

how much would you want for the BOXED Turbo Grafx CD system. Thanks for your time