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[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Konami Files Trademark for Turbografx]

Well honestly, my comment was based on the customers that come in our store.  Half the time they dont realize they can own a nes as often as I hear them lament about selling it.  They probably would just buy it again if it sat on a shelf at walmart.  Upgrades would be nice too.

The NES re-issued exactly as it was. That's hilarious. What would be the point? The nostalgia of the 2nd shittiest cart slot of all time? Or do you just like using iPhone quantities of electricity to do abacus levels of computing? Do you like paying your portion of the tooling costs for mask ROMs in 2016?

People would still bitch about the controller length and that they "need" a ton of mods and upscalers to use it on their HDTV.

And...what...you can't find a NES for sale or something?

I'm not the greenest dude alive or anything but I wouldn't really be happy with Nintendo pumping out 20 million non-Energy Star Complient devices and 100M carts that are mainly just plastic boxes so that some 90s kids can harden their e-peen before loosing track of the things in a week.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Konami Files Trademark for Turbografx]

Nintendo could have easily just rereleased the NES again, exactly how it was, and the games, exactly the same as before, and it would have sold gangbusters all over again.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Gate of Thunder - Remastered by Electrohaze]

What sound system are you guys using to play this stuff?  I'm running mine through a Pioneer sx 650 with the bass levels upticked a hair, and it sounds plenty good with near max volume (the only way to play).  If anything, I would adjust volume level on sfx a bit lower, but I have no issue with low volume here!

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Going for a complete NA TG16 set! who has one?]

I keep a full collection in my basement.  I keep going down to take a picture, but then I get so excited seeing it that I jerk off all over the games and have to go clean myself.  So exhausting.

Not laughing at VGA acrylic cases now are you?

I would never.  The acrylic perfectly preserves my jizz for future collectards.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Going for a complete NA TG16 set! who has one?]

I keep a full collection in my basement.  I keep going down to take a picture, but then I get so excited seeing it that I jerk off all over the games and have to go clean myself.  So exhausting.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Magical Chase how often does it come up for sale on this forum?]

i'm glad this thread got derailed to something more interesting.

PCE version of cotton has been steadily climbing along with terraforming.  still not outrageous, but both could be had for 50(ish) each not too long ago.  not sure that is the case now.
also, i am surprised CD Denjin hasnt found the stratosphere yet, but probably 'cuz name is so different.  i got that on ebay for less than 50 earlier this year. 

As long as the collectards have something pretty on their shelf for their neckbeard friends to look at and say "cool!"  Totally worth the entry price.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )]

I went to a Video Game swap recently and anything to do with the TurboGrafx-16 is way overpriced, one person was selling a complete copy of KC for $20.00. Those re-sellers are driving up the prices for all retro games.

Blaming resellers for high prices is like blaming McDonald's for fat people or drug dealers for drugs. People need to learn how to take some fucking personal responsibility.

And you know what, guy?  You may be right.  But let us have a goddamn thread to bitch and moan and get it out of our system.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )]

The problem in general is that flippers and resellers keep pushing the price upwards, and since they have a global market, there's always one guy who's just crazy enough to buy it, setting the new benchmark.  It doesn't matter if there are a hundred folks who would pay a reasonable number, the holdout for the crazy guy tanks the whole industry, and prices out everyone except pharmaceudical guys with wu tang albums.  Will the prices come down?  Sure.  But do I want to sit and wait 10-20 years for prices to fall, for that flipper to finally realize he needs to lower his price?  No way!  I deal in arcade related stuff, and there are soooooooo many guys who sit on huge collections, and every piece is gold.  9 times out of 10, they sit on it until it all rots, and them no one gets to play them, and it all goes to waste.  It's a shitty shitty system and it just plain sucks.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: CIB system prices]

Man do I miss the days when clearance was deep discount.  Nowadays its like 20% off.  Lame.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: CIB system prices]

I had to get mine fixed. It kept overheating with me keeping it in the box and all. 

The trick is to cut vents into the styrofoam.  Maybe attach a fan.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )]

I just dont know what to say about these anymore.  I mean, most of the games for turbografx are bargain bin games at best.  Im not trying to insult, but if it were on any other console, they would be 5-10$ all day long.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Thoughts on adapters for TGs/PCEs/Other AV cable to HDMI?]

I'm using a 36" JVC crt that I grabbed on craigslist.  Bigger than anything I had in my youth.  Best part, no messing with latency issues, conversion problems, etc.  I retain the transparancy effects and beautiful scanlines!  I've done the emulation route, and the retron with HDMI is nice for the quick easy hookup, there is a difference playing a game emulated.  You may not notice right away, but play a game like Galaga emulated and then on original hardware.  You will notice.  I do a lot of restoration in the arcad scene, and emulation boards are all the rage right now.  they are perfectly find for most people, but I have played original boards far too long that I can tell that the play is just off a bit in emulated ones.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: 3 arcade games you'd love to see on the Turbo/PCE?]

Bad Dudes would look really good with the Grafx's ability to handle larger sprites.  Let's get a team together and start porting this stuff!

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: So I finally finished Neutopia]

I played it with memory save on my Duo.

I really had an issue with the enemies being able to hit you when they were jumping but not technically on the same plane.  It seemed a little lazy, especially when they leave a shadow to indicate their position.

I destroyed the centipede boss and the turtle boss in seconds by spamming multiple fire wands up close.  Pretty epic.

I agree with whoever mentioned bombing walls.  Almost every screen, pretty silly.  Usually just to get some idiot villager to spout random garbage about their life before the Dirth.

I look forwrd to playing the sequel.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / So I finally finished Neutopia]

It only took me a good 15 years or so to get around to it, but I finally finished this damn game.  I figured I would offer my thoughts on this title.

• Great music, I loved all of the tracks.
• Fire wand is badass.  I abused the shit out of it.
• Jumping enemies can suck a dick!  I hated getting hit from the top of the screen even when they werent on the same plane as me.
• Having a shop to buy my potions and bombs would have been better than bombing cave doors all the damn time
• Seriously, npcs have the most worthless things to say.
• The game had great bosses.  I enjoyed kicking the crap out of all of them.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: 3 arcade games you'd love to see on the Turbo/PCE?]

How about knights of the round, cadillacs and dinosaurs, or magic sword?  Lots of CPSI goodness!

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: 3 arcade games you'd love to see on the Turbo/PCE?]

So many good choices.  I agree having konami games on tg16 around that time would have been huge!  Tmnt arcade was super hot, and the nes port so lacking.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: ROACH MOTEL AHHH... (Picked up a Turbo Express for $60)]

No need for the raid.  Pull it apart and wash the shell, brush the pcb with a dry paint brush.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )]

Seriously, if ebay eliminated set price format they could throw the entire collector market into a panic overnight.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: ROACH MOTEL AHHH... (Picked up a Turbo Express for $60)]

We usually take consoles outside to open when we clean them.  Most times though I can just smell the system and know.  It is a very distinct smell that now I can even catch a faint scent of.  We had one system at our store from a customer...

Ever watched "The Mummy" and see the scene when hundreds of scarabs come flooding out?  No exaggeration, it was exactly like that.  Gave me nightmares for weeks.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Picked up a Turbo Express for $60]

I work in a game store too.  Better open that system and clean it out.  Theres probably more inside.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )]

Just going by the number of unpaid item claims I file per week selling lately, I would say most of the sold listings go unpaid.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )]

Nope, $10 media mail shipment.  Only the best...

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Normal to see reproduced Cases on games that did not originally include them?]

I still cant make myself give a shit about completeness.  I see buyers fret if it doesnt have the stupid ads or a registration card.  Wtf are you going to do?  Mail it in?  I still trash that crap.  I also trash any repro crap that comes in my store, especially if its purpose is just to make something complete.  There is a purpose behind repro, dont get me wrong, but helping collectards make pretty shelves aint it for me.  Ive got a copy of ninja spirit with the label ripped out on the side.  I could replace it.  Even looked once or twice at auctions.  But in the end it does what it needs to just fine - hold the game when im not playing it.  Just play the games man.  None of your friends gives a crap how your games look on a shelf.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Turbob Xpress: Bringing affordable "gamer's" games to the community! Nearly Gone]

Any chance we might see more games in the future?  Id love to get a saphire, since i missed out whenever the last run was done.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Magical Chase loose value?]

My advice - buy a repro, or an everdrive.  Play the game everyday, preferably for several months.  If you absolutely fall in love with the game, and only an original will do, then by all means buy it and cherish it.  Very few games have EVER met that category for me.  Dont buy it as an investment. Dont buy it as a flip.  Buy it because it is a game you love to play.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Best Turbo shooter under $50?]

I love blazing lasers.  Great game, hopefully still affordable.  Spriggan?  At one point it used to be decent priced as well.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Dumb Buyers]

The GC was rock solid system that definitely got overshadowed by the PS2.  The system will probably always stay dirt cheap, with exception to the special edition consoles.  The games are creeping up, with a few like Fire Emblem getting into triple digits, but overall the prices arent ridiculous (yet).  Current gen, I still prefer the wii u, and it is my go to for large groups.  Theres few multiplayer games for the other systems, my PS4 gathers dust quite often.  I guess it shows that power isnt everything.  Im still impressed with 2600 games though, so I cant really relate to the current mindset of graphics and power above creativity.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Dumb Buyers]

The reason your store has a ton of N64 systems is because its a store. I worked in game retail when N64 was still supported and it was that way then. It was also that way with GC, and with WiiU.

Errr, no.  N64 was actually quite difficult to keep in stock for about two years while the retro craze really ramped up.  It is only when the prices of the games started pushing up that many of my customers began to sell.  Many specifically stated that the reason was game cost.  As for the GC, we dont normally buy very many, but the backwards wii hurt that one.  The wii u, despite being less popular than the other big two, is very difficult to keep in stock.  Even harder is getting the games sold back to us.  People really like the system once they try it, and the games seem to stay in their collections.  Ps4 and x1 stuff floods in daily, but not so much on the wii u.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Dumb Buyers]

Well, back when NES stuff was dirt cheap, I didnt have to worry about shelves of games.  The ones I didnt like I would trade or just plain give away.  The low value on many of the games meant that it was common to simply give away a box of games with a system.  Good fun for cheap.  Did retailers trash them?  Not that I saw.  The game stores near me constantly rotated games with frequent trades.  I would argue that collections hurt the entire system.  It makes the market a niche and shrinks the base of buyers.  N64 is a prime example.  In our store, I have LOTS of systems from trade, many of the customers citing that the reason is that it is not affordable to play many of the games on the system now.  Collectors are pricing out the casual players who make up the largest base of the consumer group.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Dumb Buyers]

I'm all for new guys getting involved and excited about Turbobs.  It's the fucktards that just want to buy shit so they can make unboxing videos that suck; anyone that doesn't want to actually play the games (and I mean play 'em, not just boot the game and watch the title sequence to make sure it's functional) can get fucked.

Spoken with class.  Points to you good sir.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Dumb Buyers]

I think what I hate most is that the games have value at all.  I truly wish titles were worthless, so that we could buy and collect turbografx for the love of playing games on our system.  I wish I didnt have to use an everdrive, but my practical side tells me that these idiots will buy my games for stupid amounts, and I should let them.  For now.  I do believe that eventually, it will all collapse, and we will have our pick of the litter come that day.  I remember when NES games were dirt cheap, and buying a system and games for $20 was a thrill, with plenty of great titles to play for weeks.  Now a common copy of Mega Man is almost 100 bucks.  I really dont get it at all.  Guess Im playing mega man on everdrive for now, causing i have to shill my real copy to some loser.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: 3 arcade games you'd love to see on the Turbo/PCE?]

I agree with CrackTiger.  Its apprpriate for the time frame and didnt see a proper home version.  My other choices would be 1943 (hated the nes version and not a fan of kai) and escape from the planet of the robot monsters (atari 1989).  I loved ataris hardware at that time, including the awesome Toobin!

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: TG-16 arcade joystick: Durability? Like it? Use it?]

I remember owning a six button snes joystick bitd, it was built with all happ parts, nice size black metal case.  I would love to have a good quality arcade style stick for tg16 shmups.  I can tolerare a pad, but for shmups I feel more accurate with a joystick.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Turbob Xpress: Bringing affordable "gamer's" games to the community!]

I would like to get a disc too.  Im glad these are clearly labeled as repro and offered cheaply.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )]

Ah, so neopolss, did you bid up the latest one that just got posted to Facebook today in one of the PCE groups ? I told people there not to take it seriously, that it was most likely fake bidding to leave the reseller hanging.

That was not me this time, but I do look for good opportunities.  Seller fees on half a million has got to be expensive...

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )]

No need to buy it, it just takes a few users with dummy accounts to bid it up over a million.  Ebay will pull the listing due to shilling.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )]

Fortunately his fake did get pulled.  Now there is a "repro" beyond shadowgate pce memories edition up for auction.  Is "repro" the magic word for dodging the dreaded bootleg label?

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )]

Auction # 262091918737

Yet another pce works disc only, different seller.  There was a bootleg rondo x disc yesterday, but it has already been pulled.

Oh, and i dont mind sitting on the other purchase just to neg him.  My account is in good standing and it takes quite a few unpaid item strikes to get suspended.  I sell on a business account for a company, and theres tons of non paying bidders every month.  Ebay doesnt care to address the problem since it is a seller problem.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )]

Ive certainly kept my seller waiting for his bootleg money.  Hopefully i can drag it out and cost him the ebay fees for final value.  100k auction?  Certainly youd think thered be some verification to buy and sell products that expensive. Sending $100k to an anonymous seller through paypal?  I mean wtf?

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )]

I think it is a great strategy.  The only way to hurt bootleggers is to hurt their wallet.  Ebay wont remove user reported auctions because it is not a vero.  Now, if you can get the actual IP holder to step in, you could end the problem within a few weeks.  Vero partners can remove auctions instantly.  Microsoft is pretty active with theirs, and so is rolex.

Oh, and the rondo x was bid up by yours truly.  And whos gonna pay for it? NOT THIS GUY!

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )]

If they dont pull it soon then it might just have to be bid up to a million to force their hand.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Seller's remorse]

I had a boxed turbo duo and all the fixings that i bought from tzd back in the day.  Might and magic 3 might be the one i miss most.  Sold it all at a time when i couldnt make ends meet.  I also had a rather large jaguar collection.  I think many of us either go through that tough period or purge at some point, and then want it back.  Since then i have aquired another duo and games, but some of it i was ok with letting go for good.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: What game would YOU have packed in with the Turbo?]

Altered beast was a good show-off title that looked good and was modestly fun.  Thats a good pack in.  Keith courage just didnt look impressive.  I can still remember the kiosk in toys r us.  The game looked dorky and the packaging for the turbo grafx looked dumb.  It reminds me of the side art for the nintendo super system (just awful)!  I agree that r-type is an impressive looking title with the large boss for the money shot, but the game is hard, and would have easily turned away new players.  Despite my misgivings on keith courage, im not sure if there was anything else at the time worth pairing with it.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: What game would YOU have packed in with the Turbo?]

Totally agree.  Rastan 2 was the worst.  But is it worse than china warrior?

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: What game would YOU have packed in with the Turbo?]

Yup yup, totally forgot that.  Seems like it should have seen a few more systems.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?]

(Sony just hide the software emulator for the PS2 after the launch of the slim consoles but it is still there, you can use it on a custom firmware and it is also used when you play PS2 Classics from the PSN store)

Oh wait, is that really true, Punch ? OK, because I was needing to get a PS3, but I thought I had to track down the very 1st model since they got rid of PS2 backwards compatibility. You're saying you can buy the newest PS3 model, patch the firmware, and fully restore PS2 support ?? Is that right ?

Pretty much.  Out of the fat models, only the cech-a series uses a chip, the cech-e models use emulation, and then later models disabled it.  Its not really worth the hassle to enable it, as it did not work well.  I wouldnt recommend hunting down the cecha models either though.  In our shop, i have yet to see one not die from the ylod.  Even once they are reballed the failure rate is high, often withon a year.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: What game would YOU have packed in with the Turbo?]

Bonk was probably the best overall choice, but the mail in portion wasnt a great move.  I was sold on the system with blazing lazers in my youth, nice graphics, sound, and music, and the difficulty wasnt over the top.  Keith courage was good for what it was, but something more like neutopia may have been a better game to promote.  The biggest challenge for the system was games that had good play length.  In an age when most games could be cleared in an hour or two, a game that offered a long playthrough was seen as progress from the slew of arcade ports.

Btw, who hasnt heard of rastan?  I restore arcade games, and almost half of the conversions from that time period are rastan kits.  It was an extremely popular title, and bizarre that it didnt see a home port.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?]

I didnt say dungeon explorer ii was terrible, its a good game, but it ain't $200 good.  Neutopia II is the same.  I find myself wanting to love it in order to justify the price.  As someone who works in a game store, most nes and snes are worthless, with about 20 to 30 titles worth a crap, and most of it entirely reasonable to have if you don't need box, manual,and other nonsense.  Even the overhyped earthbound is well within reason with box and manual.  Tg16 is nowhere near reasonable.  Its going to drop.  Not a question of if, but when.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?]

Video game collectors are an insane breed.  The problem with game collectors is that many games are based solely on the limited print run and less to do with the quality of the game.  Games like nba 2k7 go up in value because it was a last run game for ps2, and for no other reason.  Many games do not reflect actual value, and only after we stop collecting does the actual market come into play.  So many tg16 ebay auctions are buy it now, simply to keep the value of some from plumetting.  No one will care about some of these games after our generation.  Dungeon explorer ii, neutopia ii, and others are way over priced and arent really that greAt.  Expect them to drop to half value or more in the next ten years or so.  Nes and snes are already starting to bottom out to atari 2600 levels.  Expect only a handful of actual valuable games, and dont expect anything from this era to be collectable.