"Blazing Lazers" Ultimate Challenge

[Phase]

This is a high score challenge for Blazing Lazers with some specific rules, for the regular main high score thread see here:   https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=4157.0

Ninja16608 and I got to chatting on rules we thought would level the playing field and stop the use of any tricks to up your score. There are also a few rules that have a higher standard of proving you didn't cheat like video taping the play-through.

This challenge is designed for experts and is open to everyone.

Blazing Lazers Ultimate Challenge
Rules
1-Must be played on original hardware with original game (no everdrive) (no pal system 50hz)
2-Must be recorded with video camera (make sure the score is in focus) (just to be clear only has to show the screen for the playthrough until you reach the end then see rule #8)
3-Normal Mode (no codes obviously)
4-No boss trick (no letting the boss named TriClops live in level 1 and level 9)
5-Can only die with continue gels (Spheres) (No deaths where you restart)
6-Eyeballs mid-boss on level 4 should be killed as fast as you can. (It must be killed by third wave if you let the third wave happen on accident it can be subtracted)
7-No boss grinding for points
8-Pause the game after you kill the last boss when "Area-9 Clear" is shown and take your camcorder and get close up of your score and also show the original game is in the console. Show your set up a bit and try and include the connections and anything to further validate your run. if you like show your controller or take a picture for forum. then unpause and let the ending roll a little bit.

- High Scores -
1- 13,507,790 Phase
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Edit: locked because no interest.

[Ninja16608]

I still think #1 should be able to play on anything Emu or OEM only reason is most people might not have a cam and I know right now mine wont hold an hour of video but I have terabytes of HD space for fraps :-)

Eyeball boss should be killed as fast as you can (I always kill before second set of eyes)

I say we involve the community that wants to take the challenge a say on them 2 rules.

Other than that I like all the rest :-)

[Phase]

I don't know, its awfully easy to cheat on emulators with this game all you would have to do is savestate on the fadeout at the end of each level and if you messed up during that level just retry till you get it right and do a little edit job. or maybe its possible to run the game at like 98% speed or some other hack that would be hard to detect.

Or someone could be at a disadvantage and not even know it, for instance when I play it on an emulator I can tell the game runs a hair faster than on the 16 and also my controller has a slight lag to it (both are hard to detect). these could just be my settings or the emulator or something else.

Yeah the eyeball boss I figured I would give a buffer encase you have a crappy weapon at the time. like if you get hit and are stuck with a pea shooter. I will edit it adding to be as fast as you can.

[Phase]

you got head stuck in the gutter. 

yeah I figured the name could be made into some jokes but I couldn't come up with anything else 

maybe I will go with champion edition ...very original

[Phase]

maybe I will go with champion edition ...very original



Now at least we have a cool logo

[Phase]

Made a run through just now with my crappy camcorder the video came out fine but the sound was bad, may need to put a speaker next to the thing so it picks it up. Also I need a full battery cuz that cut out toward the end. but if its full it should be fine. I'll have to do this until I get a good run since this one I made to many mistakes. I'm using a cheap 32inch lcd since my cam is so bad and it seems to work better than the crt, less glare and flat.

[Ninja16608]

Every time I see this thread, I instantly think that this is some kind of porn + obey mashup thread or something.

"Must 1 cc game while hanging from the inverse-nipple-clamp-suspension-frame, recorded with a camcorder."

Dont forget you have to have camcorder dangling from ding-a-ling and have the skills to not let it rotate cuz you could cheat while cam was on the back swing.

Yeah I see your point about the PC I just figured we had honest people here lol.

[Phase]

I'm sure no one would cheat here, but I was just thinking why not eliminate any doubt. If you have the system hooked up with the original hucard in there its pretty much impossible to pull anything and the few cheats and difficulty levels that are built into the game are detectable. Most people would probably agree if you want to have a serious contest it should be on the original hardware.

(Edit: simplified the post)

[roflmao]

Can we use a DVD recorder rather than camcorder? Image and sound come out much better that way...

[Phase]

hmm well the problem there is that you cant prove the actual game is in there when you were playing.
You could do both a camcorder and a dvd recorder if you wanted good video also.

For this we are not really going for superb video quality the main point is rule 8 pause the game for the final shot and take the camcorder and show your setup a bit and that the game is in there.

I may rephrase rule 8 a bit here being more specific. I've done it on two run throughs now and it really wasn't a problem.

[Ninja16608]

Gonna try a run through with camcorder tonight and see if the vid quality is good, I have a decent cam but scanlines suck unless you have the ability to set your cam to match the tube tv lol.

[Ninja16608]

Sorry for the double post but I was thinking we make it a real competition, I may offer up a prize for the winner. This would mean there would be a time frame for entries and the prize would be turbo related.....maybe even a game.....ahhhh... that might draw some attention how about a CIC keith courage lol ...NO It would be something much cooler than that. Phase you and I should talk and see what a good prize should be and maybe each throw something in the pot to make it worth the time?? anyhow I'll PM ya later on and see if its good for you too.

[Opethian]

this is about as fun as trying to do a low score run with the lowest score possible by area 9 boss

[xcrement5x]

Is there an address for me to mail in my camcorder VHS tape? 

I used an old one with some episodes of Saved By The Bell on the it, so the end of the tape might overlap into a bit into my Kelly Kapowski clip montage. 

[owlnonymous]

I play in quite a few score competitions, and requiring original hardware, camcorder feeds, and a long list of to-do's and not-to-do's is a little ridiculous. I am totally down for a Blazing Lazers competition. Will I camcorder it? No. I think a final score pic would suffice. Will I milk the bosses? No. But if someone wants to (all 1CC/Sissy people do), then let them do it. Just some thoughts. Please ignore me if want. But like I said, I am always down for a good SHMUP challenge.

**Update: I didn't know there was an original challenge thread for Gunhed as well. Proceed as normal.

[Ninja16608]

Sounds like there is no real easy way to do this except everyone come to my house and set up your systems, I'll make pancakes and waffles, Phaze can make sure no one has cheats running, Owl can bitch about 1cc ers lol and Nully can raid my underwear draw and run around the house half nekkid with nipple clamps on.

[owlnonymous]

I'm in. 

[Phase]

Yes.. this is a more complicated challenge than the regular high score thread.. the rules eliminate tricks and exploits and also makes it difficult to cheat.

The rules really aren't difficult, It's probably how most people would play if they were going for a high score anyways. (so its not really going to change the amount of fun your having)

If there was a score competition at a gaming convention for say nes tetris everyone would be on a nes console. (original hardware) you wouldn't be using a PC.

The only rule thats a little tough is using a video camera but it probably more common to have access to a cam than having some sort of capture device setup.

[Ninja16608]

I propose a new rule:

9- Game must be played with your toes using a Turbo Stick.

(ok, i'll stop crapping in your thread )

Your not cramping man, I love the lulz I get from you. Phase your right OEM should be the way to go and if i'm going to give up some of my obey to a winner cheats would be frowned upon. Ok enough talk and get to the gaming.

[geise]

As cheap as it is using tricks and secrets, if everyone is allowed to use em then there is no problem.  If you don't know what those secrets are  then find them out.  The only real way to have someone play this type of score run is with recording it.  There is no problem using an emulator if someone is still recording it.  You are viewing what they are doing so you'd know if they were cheating.  Capturing the video is way better than a camcorder.

[Ninja16608]

83% on pal.

[wildfruit]

I only have pal

[Ninja16608]

I only have pal

Yes but Null's PAL is a Personal Ass Licker. Yours is a European TV frequency lol

[wildfruit]

50hz mega power

[Phase]

hmm we will have to go with no pal, but you can always play the original high score thread.

@geise
I'm not sure if I read your post 100% properly so bare with me
I agree with you tricks are fine for the regular high score thread this is something different.
Its not a concern with superb video quality, rule 8 needs it to be a camera so you can show the game in the console at the end of the play-through. (why at the end? well because you will be trying multiple times and why go through the trouble unless you passed the game.) If the original game is in the console this eliminates cheating possibilities or things like stated in reply #2

I'll add a note about no pal and I modified the 1st post a bit more.

[Ninja16608]

hmm we will have to go with no pal, but you can always play the original high score thread.

@geise
I'm not sure if I read your post 100% properly so bare with me
I agree with you tricks are fine for the regular high score thread this is something different.
Its not a concern with superb video quality, rule 8 needs it to be a camera so you can show the game in the console at the end of the play-through. (why at the end? well because you will be trying multiple times and why go through the trouble unless you passed the game.) If the original game is in the console this eliminates cheating possibilities or things like stated in reply #2

I'll add a note about no pal and I modified the 1st post a bit more.

LMFAO

[wildfruit]

I feel defeated

[Phase]

Slightly to the side of the topic back when we were talking about hitting 14mil no boss grinding in the other thread. well i think a came up with a way.. do the level 1 boss trick then use up some of the 10 extra lives on the second or third stage racking up an extra 500,000 then play as usual..too easy   

[Phase]

Made a decent run last night, just wanted to post a shot to get things started



I have the video but its too big a file from the cam so will have to shrink it when I get time.
Will probably wait and see if I can do better since I made plenty of mistakes in the last half of the game.

[Phase]

After losing in GOG mode multiple times, I decided to give the ultimate challenge a quick run through since I had the camcorder set up. The play through is a little on the reckless side as I was still frustrated from the prior gog run, but it turned out to be more entertaining probably as I use more weapons and techniques and take more damage than I usually do. A couple of the obvious mistakes I remember being distracted (this is from mid December)

The camcorder is junk but the good news is its in 60fps so the video is nice and smooth.. the file size is large though. None of the programs I have did a good job shrinking the file. My avatar print is just there to focus the camera since it was the only thing lying around I had large text on. The sound is low so may need to up it.

Download this and watch it on vlc is your best bet. (right click save link as)
https://www.ektophase.com/TG16/BlazingLazersUC_HScore_Phase.mov

Score came out to 13,507,790 if I would have used the boss trick and the extra bombs it would put me over 13,7
I do push rule 7 a little though, but not really for points, a few bosses I am fishing for power ups on.