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Started by pixeljunkie, 06/10/2005, 12:33 PM

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pixeljunkie

I finally got my MINTY MINT copy of Dracula X [with spine and reg. card] in the mail today!!! I'm stuck at work all day as it sits on my desk and calls to me! After years of playing my crappy CD-R of it, I'm excited to get home and pop in the real thing. [I never did finish it, the CD-R would crap out on my Duo a lot of times] So, just had to vent about it....to people who know what the hell I'm talking about. Very excited!

PCEngineFX

Hey nice pixeljunkie............how much did you get yours for?
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pixeljunkie

Quote from: PcenginefxHey nice pixeljunkie............how much did you get yours for?

I hit up someone after their ebay auction ended with no bidders and offered him $115 shipped. And the puppy is mint. I'm very pleased.

PCEngineHell

You guys love Dracula X so much,and I  like it too,but it seems nowhere near as much as you guys.Dont get me wrong,I think its a great Castlevania game overall,but to me the best one was the X68000 game.Second up is Haunted Castle,the original,and third is Super Castlevania 4.All these Castlevania games,besides the Nes games have the original play aspects and feel all intact and unmessed with.Catlevania 3 onto Drac X and up to SOTN just seemed to bring about alot of change in the feel of the games.
I just cant justify myself spending 100+ bucks on Dracula X.I have never felt in my life that it holds that kind of worth.My friend in Conway sold a Valkry Profile new sealed on ebay to get his Dracula X complete mint,I think the only reason he spent the 150 that he did was because he looked at it like a even trade for the Valkry Profile psx game.The only game I have ever spent more then a 100 bucks on was a King of Fighters 96 AES cart,import.If people would stop being so willing to spend the cash,the price would drop on drac x,but everyone jumps on those wonderful Buy it Now auctions for the 150 bucks,and you wonder how people like Bullseye stay around to haunt us???

TurboHuC6280

Quote from: PCEngineHellYou guys love Dracula X so much,and I  like it too,but it seems nowhere near as much as you guys.Dont get me wrong,I think its a great Castlevania game overall,but to me the best one was the X68000 game.Second up is Haunted Castle,the original,and third is Super Castlevania 4.All these Castlevania games,besides the Nes games have the original play aspects and feel all intact and unmessed with.Catlevania 3 onto Drac X and up to SOTN just seemed to bring about alot of change in the feel of the games.
I just cant justify myself spending 100+ bucks on Dracula X.I have never felt in my life that it holds that kind of worth.My friend in Conway sold a Valkry Profile new sealed on ebay to get his Dracula X complete mint,I think the only reason he spent the 150 that he did was because he looked at it like a even trade for the Valkry Profile psx game.The only game I have ever spent more then a 100 bucks on was a King of Fighters 96 AES cart,import.If people would stop being so willing to spend the cash,the price would drop on drac x,but everyone jumps on those wonderful Buy it Now auctions for the 150 bucks,and you wonder how people like Bullseye stay around to haunt us???

I like the game as well, but I also don't believe it's quite worth the price.  I'm a big fan of the Castlevania series and finally caved after many years and just picked it up for $100 just to have it in the collection.  I never managed to catch a deal for a better price, as people continue to pay these high prices for the game...  Case in point here.  :)

lord_cack

OK, I have to say this first and foremost. I have NEVER played the game. But, as soon as I find a copy floating around for like $120-$130 (maybe $150) price range I am gonna snag it. Weather it is worth that price or not, while questionable, is a mute point because thats what it cost (I wouldn't pay $190-$200 for it). But, to be honest, I don't think games are worth that price, but to contradict myself, I will pay it occasionally.

I mean the market fluxes up and down, but thats pretty much the going rate for some of the more rare titles. I mean I don't like the gas prices being high but I wanna get around I pay it. Doesn't matter weather the trip was worth it, I pay the price....and thats the cost of playing great games, for a great system....atleast you didnt pay 200 dollars for the same fighting game over and over again just because its a Neo Geo game... :lol:  :shock: Sorry Neo Geo fans :D
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pixeljunkie

Quote from: lord_cackatleast you didnt pay 200 dollars for the same fighting game over and over again just because its a Neo Geo game... :lol:  :shock: Sorry Neo Geo fans :D

Thats why I play MVS games.  :lol: only paying $20-$100 for the same fighting game over and over. heheh

Keranu

That must suck starring at a copy of Dracula X at work all day and not being able to play it.
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pixeljunkie

Quote from: KeranuThat must suck starring at a copy of Dracula X at work all day and not being able to play it.

It did! longest day ever!
Paid off though...been playing it on and off the last 2 days. Very cool.

CrackTiger

For those of you who don't think Drac X is worth it at the 'collector's' price, I'm kinda in the same boat with most games.

But with PCE games, I was importing them all for between $100 - $150 back in the day, including Dracula X and I try to just look at every PCE game for less than that today as a bargain.

Too bad most of the hardware hasn't come down as much as most of the games. :cry:
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akamichi

IMO Dracula X isn't that rare at all.  Of course it's still selling > $100 even today as far as I can tell.  It's a damn good game.  Probably one of the few games that have gameplay and great presentation to back up the "collector" price.  

However, back in '97 I sold a used Dracula X for $35.  Great condition minus spine.  I knew the value of the game back then (hasn't changed much since then either) but I personally thought that selling it for $100 or more was just ridiculous.  Maybe $50 or $60 tops.  That's just me.

I doubt I'll find it for that cheap ever again.  Out of all the times I went to Japan, the cheapest I've ever seen Dracula X (except for the $35 one) was for ~$85.  Not worth it IMO, yet that seems cheap to me.  

Anybody ever see DracX go for less than $100 within say... the last 5 or 6 years?

esteban

Quote from: akamichiIMO Dracula X isn't that rare at all.  Of course it's still selling > $100 even today as far as I can tell.  It's a damn good game.  Probably one of the few games that have gameplay and great presentation to back up the "collector" price.  

However, back in '97 I sold a used Dracula X for $35.  Great condition minus spine.  I knew the value of the game back then (hasn't changed much since then either) but I personally thought that selling it for $100 or more was just ridiculous.  Maybe $50 or $60 tops.  That's just me.

I doubt I'll find it for that cheap ever again.  Out of all the times I went to Japan, the cheapest I've ever seen Dracula X (except for the $35 one) was for ~$85.  Not worth it IMO, yet that seems cheap to me.  

Anybody ever see DracX go for less than $100 within say... the last 5 or 6 years?
It has sold for less than $100 (80-90 range). No flaws, though maybe not always including the spine card.
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torgo

I love the game, but DAMN is it hard!!! The soundtrack is still one of THE best ever.
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neo_x7

Quote from: pixeljunkieI finally got my MINTY MINT copy of Dracula X [with spine and reg. card] in the mail today!!! I'm stuck at work all day as it sits on my desk and calls to me! After years of playing my crappy CD-R of it, I'm excited to get home and pop in the real thing. [I never did finish it, the CD-R would crap out on my Duo a lot of times] So, just had to vent about it....to people who know what the hell I'm talking about. Very excited!
Great find, I have had mine since 1994 and it is still my all-time favorite game.

BTW, If you get stuck enter X-X!V''Q as your name.

akamichi

QuoteBTW, If you get stuck enter X-X!V''Q as your name.

Hehe, I haven't seen that "codename" in ages.  I could have sworn there was a trick in DracX to get above 100%.  Some kind of bug that just reported the percentage wrong.  I also vaguely remember some other trick that you can do at the drawbridge before you walk into the castle.  All I remember is you do something... then walk into the castle and instead of being inside like normal, you'd appear behind the wall (outside).  You couldn't do anything but walk around that part of the stage.  The only way out was to reset the game.

The only problem with all this is that I can't remember for the life of me if these tricks were real or I just read it somewhere or what.  I tried to look them up in some old magazines I have, but didn't find anything.  I think my mind is playing tricks on me instead.

Anybody know what I'm talking about?  It's probably all in my imagination...

pixeljunkie

I am having some issues with Stage 4....slightly tough. I need to play it more. Great game!!!

CrackTiger

Quote from: akamichi
QuoteBTW, If you get stuck enter X-X!V''Q as your name.

Hehe, I haven't seen that "codename" in ages.  I could have sworn there was a trick in DracX to get above 100%.  Some kind of bug that just reported the percentage wrong.  I also vaguely remember some other trick that you can do at the drawbridge before you walk into the castle.  All I remember is you do something... then walk into the castle and instead of being inside like normal, you'd appear behind the wall (outside).  You couldn't do anything but walk around that part of the stage.  The only way out was to reset the game.

The only problem with all this is that I can't remember for the life of me if these tricks were real or I just read it somewhere or what.  I tried to look them up in some old magazines I have, but didn't find anything.  I think my mind is playing tricks on me instead.

Anybody know what I'm talking about?  It's probably all in my imagination...


That was Symphony Of The Night/Nocturne In The Moonlight for PSX.

You can fly around the outside of the Castle for  fraction or a few more %.

I don't remember if the Saturn version has the same glitch.

There are definately no tricks to get over 100% in Drac X PCE. There are a few extra paths that probably give you % before 100%, but once you hit 100 thats it.
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Quote from: CrackTigerThat was Symphony Of The Night/Nocturne In The Moonlight for PSX.

You can fly around the outside of the Castle for  fraction or a few more %.

I don't remember if the Saturn version has the same glitch.

There are definately no tricks to get over 100% in Drac X PCE. There are a few extra paths that probably give you % before 100%, but once you hit 100 thats it.

If I'm not mistaken, the USA release of SOTN was crippled so that it was impossible to get over 100%.  I think that there was an extra ending in the Japanese release that never made it stateside...  A few extra items and familiars as well, like an extra pixie and demon (nosedevil), but it's been several years since I've played it.

Paladin

Actually you could get over 200% (100% for each castle) in SOTN I think I have a save on my memory card that has 200.6% (it only displays 200% in the browser) though I can't confirm it since I no longer have the PS verison. I'm almost positive that my game had over 200%. I believe the Saturn verison uses a 100% scale (50% for each castle) though it has been a while since I've played it since I have Dragon Force II now. The extras in the Saturn verison is why I still have it despite the slowdown in game. I can listen to the voice acting and music tracks when I want, and the extra items and areas are kinda cool, though not very large. As far as a different ending to Nocturne in the Moonlight I can't remember. I should stick it back in the Saturn and finish my luck Alucard so I can have all the items  :) . The remixes of the song Beginning in the Saturn verison are probably the best incarnations of them. As far as Dracula X I'm almost certain that CrackTiger is right about it. I've never got over 100% on the emulator I'm playing it on and I've had it for a while.

TurboHuC6280

Quote from: PaladinActually you could get over 200% (100% for each castle) in SOTN I think I have a save on my memory card that has 200.6% (it only displays 200% in the browser) though I can't confirm it since I no longer have the PS verison. I'm almost positive that my game had over 200%. I believe the Saturn verison uses a 100% scale (50% for each castle) though it has been a while since I've played it since I have Dragon Force II now. The extras in the Saturn verison is why I still have it despite the slowdown in game. I can listen to the voice acting and music tracks when I want, and the extra items and areas are kinda cool, though not very large. As far as a different ending to Nocturne in the Moonlight I can't remember. I should stick it back in the Saturn and finish my luck Alucard so I can have all the items  :) . The remixes of the song Beginning in the Saturn verison are probably the best incarnations of them. As far as Dracula X I'm almost certain that CrackTiger is right about it. I've never got over 100% on the emulator I'm playing it on and I've had it for a while.

Ah.  That's right.  It was 200%.  I can specifically recall only being able to get 199%.  I can't recall exactly why though.  I think that there was some area in the cathedral that you could jump into to get a small amount of map area that would put you right around 200%.  Finding everything wasn't particularly easy though.

Ninja Spirit

I'm almost at 100%.

Stage 5' is kicking my ass.

Nomeaz1 (some of y'all should be familiar with that name right?) hooked me up with a copy for 130 bucks w/spine card, same for my King of Fighters 2001 Neo Geo AES.

I know it's not Turbo related, but what do y'all think of Super NES Dracula X compared to Rondo of Blood? I actually have Akumajo Dracula XX for my Super Famicom system and beat it the other day.

Me? The things people bash the game for doesn't bother me at all, the haters gotta realize that it's NOT a port of the Duo game.
>Moves slower than Rondo
>No Maria playability
>The music, I think the music is excellent. To me it's not about the CD quality, it's about getting it note for note. And so far, the Super NES/SFC hardware is doing a damn good job at it. Shoot, "Dance of Illusions" (Dracula final battle) is my favorite tune to listen to in Super NES sound format.

GUTS

I like it on SNES too, but it's definitely not as much fun as the Duo one.  I wouldnt say it isn't a port either since most of the levels are the same if I remember right.  I definitely like the Japanese version better than the US version though because of the blood cloud that looks so cool when you get killed.  I agree it does get unfairly bashed, it's a good Castlevania game in it's own right, just not as good as the Duo version or Bloodlines.

TurboHuC6280

Quote from: Ninja SpiritI'm almost at 100%.

Stage 5' is kicking my ass.

Nomeaz1 (some of y'all should be familiar with that name right?) hooked me up with a copy for 130 bucks w/spine card, same for my King of Fighters 2001 Neo Geo AES.

I know it's not Turbo related, but what do y'all think of Super NES Dracula X compared to Rondo of Blood? I actually have Akumajo Dracula XX for my Super Famicom system and beat it the other day.

Me? The things people bash the game for doesn't bother me at all, the haters gotta realize that it's NOT a port of the Duo game.
>Moves slower than Rondo
>No Maria playability
>The music, I think the music is excellent. To me it's not about the CD quality, it's about getting it note for note. And so far, the Super NES/SFC hardware is doing a damn good job at it. Shoot, "Dance of Illusions" (Dracula final battle) is my favorite tune to listen to in Super NES sound format.

It's not a port, but it certainly makes use of enough of the PC Engine graphics and music that could make it *seem* like a port (Then again, SOTN used a lot of the graphics as well but it wasn't a total ripoff).

The play control is pretty bad and some level designs are just retarded (like the final Dracula battle particularly).  Overall, it's a playable game.  Not my favorite Castlevania, but certainly better than some of the Game Boy games.

The music is quite good.  Makes excellent use of the SNES audio hardware, which in my opinion provided better synthesis than the PSX and Saturn, but I suppose that doesn't matter due to the CD storage medium.

NeoFreak

Quoteatleast you didnt pay 200 dollars for the same fighting game over and over again just because its a Neo Geo game...   Sorry Neo Geo fans

hhhhheeeeeeeeyyyy, come on now...$200 bucks is pocket change in neo land anyway. :D
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Keranu

For $200, you could buy mutliple fighting games on Neo Geo MVS format :D . Why take AES over MVS unless you are a filthy, rich person, I do not know.
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NeoFreak

AES is for collectors thats all; if you just want the game, then sure pick it up on MVS...if you want it to look good on your shelf, then you go for the home carts.
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cozzie

No way is the x68000 version of castlevania better than the pc engine version. It is good but the music and sound affects are shit.

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TR0N

Nice to see fans still prase "Dracula X" still it's a shame. Konami refuse to release it as a chronicle title :P

Then every body else could experince it, then insted of us TG16/PCE fans that have love it since day one :D

Btw i don't see how the... X68000 compares to Dracula X there two different games.

Beside the X68000 Castlevania is a retake on the original one.

X68000 Castlevania>NES Castlevania.
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NeoFreak

QuoteNice to see fans still prase "Dracula X" still it's a shame. Konami refuse to release it as a chronicle title  

Then every body else could experince it, then insted of us TG16/PCE fans that have love it since day one

I have trouble stomaching ports, and re-releases. It's not that I'm a really selfish person, I just think some games should be left alone, and maybe if people really want to play them, they can pay out their ass for an original, and maybe even find something else they love on that particular platform.

I know I was pissed as hell after I forked over the cash for my Mark of the Wolves AES, only for it to be released eventually on the Dreamcast  in Japan. Of course I was pleased to find that it played somewhat stiff, and it had serious sound issues when I imported it. :twisted:  Sure I put a shit load down on that game, and I would never take it back; even though I have games that are more rare or more valuable, it probably means the most to me out of my collection. I would never part with it.

Not trying to be a dick, what are your opinions?
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TR0N

Quote from: NeoFreak
QuoteNice to see fans still prase "Dracula X" still it's a shame. Konami refuse to release it as a chronicle title  

Then every body else could experince it, then insted of us TG16/PCE fans that have love it since day one

I have trouble stomaching ports, and re-releases. It's not that I'm a really selfish person, I just think some games should be left alone, and maybe if people really want to play them, they can pay out their ass for an original, and maybe even find something else they love on that particular platform.

I know I was pissed as hell after I forked over the cash for my Mark of the Wolves AES, only for it to be released eventually on the Dreamcast  in Japan. Of course I was pleased to find that it played somewhat stiff, and it had serious sound issues when I imported it. :twisted:  Sure I put a shit load down on that game, and I would never take it back; even though I have games that are more rare or more valuable, it probably means the most to me out of my collection. I would never part with it.

Not trying to be a dick, what are your opinions?
Only time i feel if the port isn't worth it.

Is if can't be done right in the, frist place then it should be left alone period.

That's all i have to say on the matter.

Beside not every body has... deep pockets to spend on a $200.00 for a game on cd:wink:

For that matter games 'on cd shouldn't be worth over a $100.00 at all.

NeoGeo Aes fine but for cds get outa here :evil:

Man i hate how collectors have ruin the hobby.
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NeoFreak

QuoteOnly time i feel if the port isn't worth it.

Is if can't be done right in the, frist place then it should be left alone period.

That's all i have to say on the matter.

Beside not every body has... deep pockets to spend on a $200.00 for a game on cd:wink:

For that matter games 'on cd shouldn't be worth over a $100.00 at all.

NeoGeo Aes fine but for cds get outa here  

Man i hate how collectors have ruin the hobby.


yeah i know what you mean, at least with an AES cart it's a little more justified.

thats why I  used to hate spending so much on saturn imports, although luckily I got most of the higher profile ones on release, so I didnt pay [too many :shock: ]inflated prices.
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TR0N

Quote from: NeoFreak
QuoteOnly time i feel if the port isn't worth it.

Is if can't be done right in the, frist place then it should be left alone period.

That's all i have to say on the matter.

Beside not every body has... deep pockets to spend on a $200.00 for a game on cd:wink:

For that matter games 'on cd shouldn't be worth over a $100.00 at all.

NeoGeo Aes fine but for cds get outa here  

Man i hate how collectors have ruin the hobby.


yeah i know what you mean, at least with an AES cart it's a little more justified.

thats why I  used to hate spending so much on saturn imports, although luckily I got most of the higher profile ones on release, so I didnt pay [too many :shock: ]inflated prices.
I'm lucky on the, Saturn also i got enough befor it got out of controll.

All i buy now is "common imports" for it.

As for the TG16/PCE since i took so long.To get back into.... it i've payed a lot for what i want play on it :P
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Ninja Spirit

That reminds me, since we're talking games with prices inflated by Huffy Bike pumps, what is it about Radiant Silvergun that makes it so expensive?

NeoFreak

QuoteThat reminds me, since we're talking games with prices inflated by Huffy Bike pumps, what is it about Radiant Silvergun that makes it so expensive?

Radiant Silver gun is expensive.  I wouldnt call it a rare game, maybe un-common.  But the deal is that its developed by Treasure, and its the best shooter on the system, not to mention one of the best vertical shooters released period.

-The mechanical design in this game is off the charts, [just look at the player ships] graceful and elegant fighters.

-uses a kind of unique weapons system where you dont, upgrade through powerups, but start the game with a full arsenal of weapons assigned to each of the buttons on the pad. using the right weapon for the right situation is the whole key.

-I wont go on and on because maybe you know all this shit already, but one more thing...if its one thing I've noticed about turbo players, its that they love their BG music.  RS has some of the best tracks youll ever here...real epic sounding stuff, it just give this overall incredible feeling to the game. everything really plays well together, especially the heavy emphasis on characters and story.

-its Radiant Silvergun
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NeoFreak

I finished rondo, and rescued all of the prisoners, and defeated all bosses...I'm at 96% right now, do you have to buy all of the technic to get the 100%? also, what is that last technic that is written in japanese characters? it costs $500
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NeoFreak

never mind, figured it out and got 100%.
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Ninja Spirit

I'm in the upper 90's myself.

For me I still hadn't beat level 5'  and watched all the boss battles. one of these days I'll start working on getting 100% on Dracula XX on my Super Famicom.

NeoFreak

its all about memorizing. the other night i beat the game from begining to end without using a continue. [used 3 lives i think]
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TR0N

Wich reminds me i need to start over again on Darcula X.

Afther my, SCDII got busted i had to... start it over again on the Duo-R :evil:
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twor2005

Quote from: TronWich reminds me i need to start over again on Darcula X.

Afther my, SCDII got busted i had to... start it over again on the Duo-R :evil:

Shoulda got a Tennokoe bank. Actually starting that beauty again is a pleasure.

TR0N

Quote from: twor2005
Quote from: TronWich reminds me i need to start over again on Darcula X.

Afther my, SCDII got busted i had to... start it over again on the Duo-R :evil:

Shoulda got a Tennokoe bank. Actually starting that beauty again is a pleasure.
I should have but i didn't think of it at the time.

It's too late now i gave the SCDII to D-lite all ready.

Heck i didn't even know it was a, memory card back then.
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TR0N

Bump! Just finsh Dracula-X!

It took a while since i was rusty at the game.

Still that didn't stop me i mange to beat.... it afther i had some pratice 8)

Man i wish Konami would make, Castlevania games again like this for todays consoles :cry:

In 2d no less no 3d crap :P
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