VALIS II

MurderDate · 01/01/2008, 01:49 PM

hey freaks, I've been having a kick ass good time with Valis II but I just can't beat that samurai guy with the long sword on level 5. It took me like 2 hours to get to him and I've been trying to beat him for a week. In general those spinning spikey orb things knock a lot of life out of me so by the time I'm at this (mini?)boss I'm pretty weak. I think I'm going about something wrong.

any advice?

any other fans?

this is a typical top shelf TG16 game for me - perfect graphics, perfect music, great gameplay.. I really love it.

MurderDate · 01/01/2008, 01:51 PM

PS. I'm not using any cheats of any kind- not interested. Game is too easy for that I think.

MurderDate · 01/01/2008, 03:49 PM

ah well, just as soon as I sat back down to play VII I took care of act 5 w/o a problem. The key here is, like in many other games, to have perfected the level play down to where you are pretty stong whence you get up to the point of difficulty. I got to the saumurai with almost full power this time, and was surprised at how easy he was to take down. Another cinchy boss "fire camel toe".. act 6 looks AMAZING THO!!

MurderDate · 01/01/2008, 04:17 PM

it's now 4:14.. I beat the game.. the last boss is uber-simple. just jump. Valis III is next !

Turbo D · 01/01/2008, 06:52 PM

valis 2 is pretty easy. I beat it the first time I played it.

PCEngineHell · 01/01/2008, 07:16 PM

Same here,Its Valis 3 on cd that stomps all over you later in the game.

nat · 01/01/2008, 07:17 PM

Valis III gets really tough mid-way through. I've been stuck at the same spot for like a year. Granted, I haven't given it many tries but the spot is so ridiculous it's discouraging. You have to freeze a bunch of enemies and then jump on them to get across a river. Not only does it require pixel-perfect jumping, but you have to freeze the enemies at PRECISELY the right moments. If you don't, and happen to get hit by the odd arrow or eagle, your character does this stupid backflip and you fall to your death.

Turbo D · 01/01/2008, 07:44 PM

valis 3 was frustrating for me because I kept falling to my death

PCEngineHell · 01/01/2008, 07:54 PM

Quote from: nat on 01/01/2008, 07:17 PMValis III gets really tough mid-way through. I've been stuck at the same spot for like a year. Granted, I haven't given it many tries but the spot is so ridiculous it's discouraging. You have to freeze a bunch of enemies and then jump on them to get across a river. Not only does it require pixel-perfect jumping, but you have to freeze the enemies at PRECISELY the right moments. If you don't, and happen to get hit by the odd arrow or eagle, your character does this stupid backflip and you fall to your death.

Same part I couldn't pass.Exact same part

Keranu · 01/01/2008, 08:37 PM

Quote from: nat on 01/01/2008, 07:17 PMValis III gets really tough mid-way through. I've been stuck at the same spot for like a year. Granted, I haven't given it many tries but the spot is so ridiculous it's discouraging. You have to freeze a bunch of enemies and then jump on them to get across a river. Not only does it require pixel-perfect jumping, but you have to freeze the enemies at PRECISELY the right moments. If you don't, and happen to get hit by the odd arrow or eagle, your character does this stupid backflip and you fall to your death.

It's possible to get past, just keep trying. Remember to use your slide move (I think by pressing down+RUN) at the right times. Definitely a difficult part of the game though! I got stuck at one of the later levels, I think maybe the ice cave but it might've been past that. I've been meaning to play that game again and beat it.

Turbo D · 01/01/2008, 08:46 PM

valis 3 kinda feels like an advanced supernintendo game, haha.

rag-time4 · 01/05/2008, 02:58 PM

I haven't played any of the Valis games yet, I think I'm missing out.

termis · 01/05/2008, 03:47 PM

Quote from: rag-time4 on 01/05/2008, 02:58 PMI haven't played any of the Valis games yet, I think I'm missing out.

Meh. It's not bad, but nothing spectacular. I've beaten the Genny version of part III (it's the first import game I bought for a staggering $90 bucks or so IIRC. Was cool, but not that cool.), and other parts didn't keep me interested long enough to keep on trying.

PCEngineHell · 01/05/2008, 06:35 PM

Man,I love the Valis games. I know not everyone does,but the only one I didn't fully enjoy between all the 16-bit ones was Snes version of 4,and Syd of Valis,which was kinda dull. 1 on Genesis or Pc Engine Scd was great,as was the rest on TG16/PCE and 3 on Genesis/Megadrive.

esteban · 01/06/2008, 02:49 PM

Valis II, a fun game, but too easy, short and basic. If only they had done a bit more with Valis II (more exploration and less linear level design, or, more challenging hack -n- platforming... like Valis III) then it would have been much more memorable.

I still think Valis II is fun, though.

Valis III, on the other hand, is a huge step towards being a solid game. Valis IV, while very nice, has never captivated me as much as Valis III.

The remake of Valis I ... well, I can't even remember what that plays like now...

geise · 01/07/2008, 07:40 AM

Game play wise I think Valis The Phantasm Soldier is the best, but my favorite has too be Valis 3. Yeah that water level where you have to freeze the enemies to get across was insanely hard. I finally did beat that game, but man when I finally got past that one part I screamed "Holy Shit! Holy Shit! Holy Shit! Hell Fucking yeah!" Haha and I forgot my mom was in the room. She just looked at me and shook her head. It was kinda funny. Man that was years ago. Think I'll play Valis 3 again.

Sinistron · 01/07/2008, 09:34 AM

Murderdate talked me into trying on these Valis titles. Got my Valis I on the way- I'm well aware it's not the best in the series and that it came out last- just wanted to start at the beginning in terms of story and arc.

RuninRuder · 01/07/2008, 09:57 AM

Valis III is a legitimately great action-platformer in the vein of 8-bit Castlevania. It gives you cool characters to use, and it has great music and good graphics and by far the best level design in the series. The water stage and the ice cavern already alluded to are extremely challenging and feel so good to beat; they're the kind of levels that you always remember.

Valis II has the worst gameplay of the bunch, and it's very short and easy. But it's worth owning just for the brilliant music. It's one of the top ten, if not top five, Duo soundtracks. It really is that good.

Valis IV has the best graphics in the series, and it's long and quite challenging. The characters aren't as cool as III's, though, and the music is disappointing.

The first Valis has better gameplay than II, but it's kinda slow and pretty easy, and basically just okay in every respect. It's the most forgettable of the group.

Then there's the Visual Collection, which lets you watch the cinemas from II, III, and IV. Hard to find and not worth the effort unless you just want to round out your Valis collection. Cover's kinda cool, though.

esteban · 01/08/2008, 09:31 PM

So, who here can tell me if there are official Valis CD Soundtracks? I've never looked for them, but I fear that they exist. And, even worse, I fear that they have lots of neat stuff on them.

Naturally, Valis II is one of the best video game soundtracks, ever. That said, I am desperate to find any "new arrangements" related to Valis, especially Valis II.