Auction - FS Games with mans and cases |* before ebay.

[Nazi NecroPhile]

Whatever.  We clearly disagree on whether or not it's appropriate to use a forum for speaking your mind.

[420GOAT]

there was a history before this thread. its good people get called out here. i kinda saw this coming. there are a lot of turbo hungry folks here and some try to take advantage...one thing i hate is no prices and the fucken "make offers" that shit sucks. youll offer then they say well he was higher....how the fuck do i know that? people play this little game with vw shit too so i am tired of some of those fucks. just name your fucken price!! But Swiss's attitude has kinda been a bit shady from the start.

[SMF]

If the seller's prices are too high, then why ridicule and antagonize him?  Just ignore him.

Seeing as this is a community, it's entirely appropriate to warn other members of attempts at gouging, and this thread didn't turn ugly until after he responded with a hearty 'fuck you' to those that said his pricing was off.

Actually, if you read the first 2 posts made right after this thread was started, you can already see the antagonism starting.

First response post:

WOW REALLY? Last time i checked this aint ebay. There is not a single game out of the 14 your selling that is even rare. Also a TG16 asking $75? Total $225 Sounds like gouging to me and maybe just maybe your trying to recoup what you spent for this bundle.

you might get trade offers but i dont see anyone here paying $150 for common games. Not when TV SPorts and Keith Courage are 2 of the 14 that can be had for free or under $5.00.

But goodluck to you, Like they say a fool and his money are soon parted.

Second response post:

Yeah that sounds a tad high, maybe included is Bonk 3, nope do not see it oh well.

It seems as though the responses are meant to belittle the TC's prices (and the TC himself to some extent).


I am NOT defending the TC's descent into incivility as well as not defending the attacks made against him.  What I AM for, instead, is a return to courtesy.  If you don't like the prices that something is being sold for, then either ignore it or make an offer (and not an offer that is ridiculously below market value).

Yes i did call him out on his asking prices, I seen his pricing was off and told him he wasnt gonna get what he was asking for. Considering in his original post he said he only purchased the lot for 1 rare game. but maybe he would get trade offers and good luck to him. I wasnt starting a mob to banish him just if he wanted ebay prices he should go there.

The people in the forums give great deals on games even rare games. So yea we all are gonna be calling someone out for high asking prices when almost all of us are in it to enjoy the games at a reasonable cost.

[VestCunt]

"After researching online, I feel that if I list these on eBay, then I can probably get the following amounts for each after deducting eBay's seller's fee."

Ebay price research is not a neutral way of determining value because ebay prices are insane. You should come to grips with this fact quickly because it's a common point of contention between newcomers and old-timers around here. Anyone who shows up posting ebay prices is quickly told to GTFO. PCEFX is not the only community that does this.

You're also overlooking one BIG difference between a wannabe seller like Swiss and retailers like Target - Target doesn't come around here asking us how much things are worth, how to repair its systems, and how to complete its collection. Like I said before, Swiss entered a raffle for Air Zonk the same day he posted this sale, for christ sake. Benefiting from the help and goodwill of others builds relationships; building relationships opens a person up to criticism. Anyone who can't tolerate criticism is perfectly welcome to fuck off, go back to ebay/racketboy/gamefaqs, and not ask us for help.

That said, you do have a point: there was a level of trolling in those first two responses and there certainly have been sellers with first-post sale threads who've been run out of town when a little civility might have shown them the light. Swiss isn't one of them.

[VestCunt]

Here's the OP. Notice that $150 was only the RESERVE - he expected us to bid for this.

[DildoKKKobold]

I know that I'm a new member of this community, but after reading all of the angst in this thread, I feel compelled to speak up.

I'm glad you spoke up, I agree with most of your post. This forum seems slightly plagued with the idea that all turbo games should be guaranteed cheap, and that anyone who spends more than what they feel is a reasonable price, is "the enemy."

That said, this guy was being an asshole across the forums. He was asking for rock-bottom prices on TG stuff, and then turning around to resell for a boat load of cash. Yeah, people were slightly antagonistic at first, but he started the cussing and total meltdown of this topic.

[tpivette]

honestly, this thread should be closed. Its obvious how both sides feel, and the OP isnt going to sell his stuff in this thread, nor are forum members going to buy anything from him

I think the point has been made...

[PunkCryborg]

Well since this forum is almost unmoderrated, we have to keep the riff-raff out somehow

[soop]

Depending on how big the box is, and the percentage of cornflakes, this could be a great deal!

[Bernie]

Some of these new guys just dont get it.  We do not expect elcheapo prices.  I mean damn.  But whatever.

[Sparky]

Close this thread? Or ignore this guy and what he is doing?...guys come on.......

look we may seem harsh but we mean well, this is the only haven where fair prices exist and deals are to be found, also how many forums do you see that raffle off the amount of stuff this place does? This is a good place with good people.

We are passionate about our beloveded TG/Cd/duo and pce and will defend prices and destroy gougers.... Why can't we defend what we love and enjoy to play..... Look at us as positive as without this place eBay/ racket boy and others would set stupid standards on the value of the games and consoles we love.

[T2KFreeker]

Congratulations Swiss780! You're up for your Official PCEFX Six-Week Evaluation!

Let's see how you're doing. Areas for improvement are marked in red!

The Lifespan of a PCEFX Reseller:
1) Noob intro, typically in a WTB thread.
2) Claims to be a collector, but doesn't know what anything is worth, or which CD setup to buy.
3) Asks for help fixing shit.
4) Asks for help in the form of appraisals: One, Two
5) Asks for help completing U.S. collection. (Not explicitly, but you ARE looking for Magical Chase.)
6) Asks for help getting good deals:
One +5 BONUS Points - Requested WTB items in someone else's WTB thread!
Two
Three
7) Demands CIB games (OH NO! You asked for LOOSE hueys! Better fix this.)
8 ) Impatient, overpays for crap on ebay, writes down amounts paid.
9) Decides to sell TG items to get out of debt or collect something else.
10) Has an "asshole fucked me over sale". Bases prices on amounts originally paid, not reality.
11) Defends gouging prices. Accuses the community that helped in stages #3-6 of suddenly becoming assholes. (same link)

Bonus Points:
*Majority of posts in sales forum: +1
*Inflated price quotes from rarityguide.com: +1
*Inflated price quotes from Ebay: +1
*Entered two raffles (Air Zonk, Time Cruise): +2
*Offered forums members $60 for loose Bonk 3, later argued that it's worth $95!: +4
*"Suck it Trebek": +1
*Claimed TG16 sellers deserve 10-20% profit margin: +1

Career Highlight:
Defending gouging prices on the same day of entering Air Zonk raffle: +8!

LMAO I LOVE THIS, This should be a thread all its own lol.

This is awesome. What a douche.

[8bitForLife]

hey i points but i was a newb ;p I have been trying.

Btw wtb magical chase cib

[PunkCryborg]

WTB WONDER MOMO!

[esteban]

Congratulations Swiss780! You're up for your Official PCEFX Six-Week Evaluation!

Let's see how you're doing. Areas for improvement are marked in red!

The Lifespan of a PCEFX Reseller:
1) Noob intro, typically in a WTB thread.
2) Claims to be a collector, but doesn't know what anything is worth, or which CD setup to buy.
3) Asks for help fixing shit.
4) Asks for help in the form of appraisals: One, Two
5) Asks for help completing U.S. collection. (Not explicitly, but you ARE looking for Magical Chase.)
6) Asks for help getting good deals:
One +5 BONUS Points - Requested WTB items in someone else's WTB thread!
Two
Three
7) Demands CIB games (OH NO! You asked for LOOSE hueys! Better fix this.)
8 ) Impatient, overpays for crap on ebay, writes down amounts paid.
9) Decides to sell TG items to get out of debt or collect something else.
10) Has an "asshole fucked me over sale". Bases prices on amounts originally paid, not reality.
11) Defends gouging prices. Accuses the community that helped in stages #3-6 of suddenly becoming assholes. (same link)

Bonus Points:
*Majority of posts in sales forum: +1
*Inflated price quotes from rarityguide.com: +1
*Inflated price quotes from Ebay: +1
*Entered two raffles (Air Zonk, Time Cruise): +2
*Offered forums members $60 for loose Bonk 3, later argued that it's worth $95!: +4
*"Suck it Trebek": +1
*Claimed TG16 sellers deserve 10-20% profit margin: +1

Career Highlight:
Defending gouging prices on the same day of entering Air Zonk raffle: +8!

LMAO I LOVE THIS, This should be a thread all its own lol.

This is awesome. What a douche.

Superb. Simply superb.

[VestCunt]

Thanks. The great thing is that anyone's posts can be hyperlinked into the list and it can be reused. It was inspired by Royvegas and JohnnyBlaze, I wrote it for Kamiboy, and months later I dug it up for the Swiss debacle and it fit him like a glove.

[esteban]

Thanks. The great thing is that anyone's posts can be hyperlinked into the list and it can be reused. It was inspired by Royvegas and JohnnyBlaze, I wrote it for Kamiboy, and months later I dug it up for the Swiss debacle and it fit him like a glove.

Ha! Even better.

TANGENT: I know that folks will skewer me for this, but did anyone save the information that RoyVegas compiled when he was building his collection? He had a basic website with photos of all the TG-16 software + items that would make each release  "complete". It seemed like he did a thorough job (and the photos were of decent quality...not as artistic as I would have liked, but utilitarian). I would recycle all of that stuff as a resource for folks. I've been meaning to ask this question for a long time, but kept forgetting .

[Nazi NecroPhile]

.... did anyone save the information that RoyVegas compiled when he was building his collection?

Ask Roy himself.  Last I knew the photos were still online and the links to 'em worked.

[Dreamstate]

I have them all.  I talked with him about letting me archive it.  I plan to get a website up at some point with the pictures and trying to give similar information on other systems of the same era that are also not well documented.  (Sega CD, 3DO, Jaguar).  I would need his approval to send them out since I only got his permission to use them as described.

[VestCunt]

His "TurboGrafx CollectingBragging Reference" seems to still be online, but can't be freely browsed without a password. I stumbled across this a while back while googling "turbografx cleaning kit":
http://s667.photobucket.com/albums/vv33/royvegas/?action=view&current=TheEliminatorTurbografxCleaningKit.jpg&sort=ascending

He had a basic website with photos of all the TG-16 software + items that would make each release  "complete".

It's not much of a reference. It's just pictures everything roy happened to buy during his three-month Turbogasm and most of his shit wasn't actually complete. IIRC, he was missing the Players' Stats book and most of the posters and stickers that originally came with games. He had some rare items, like a TG16 display book, but lacked common things like the Stack Rack.

I know that folks will skewer me for this, but did anyone save the information that RoyVegas compiled when he was building his collection?

I would need his approval to send them out since I only got his permission to use them as described.

Well, to skewer both of you a little bit, I say let that fucker rot. Don't fan his ego by turning his half-assed, former collection into a monument. Considering it was the only thing he ever did that might be construed as beneficial to the community, it's pretty safe to say he was simply showcasing of his personal collection. It was his chance to publicly throw his slab on the ruler for fifteen minutes and fetishize his money spent before selling everything off and profiting on our hobby. If he'd ever actually been interested in creating a comprehensive reference he would have invited contributions and/or asked permission to use photos of others' rarities. It's also important to remember that deleting his precious gift to the community was an attempt to give us the finger after criticizing his gouging. Fuck him.

[esteban]

His "TurboGrafx CollectingBragging Reference" seems to still be online, but can't be freely browsed without a password. I stumbled across this a while back while googling "turbografx cleaning kit":
https://s667.photobucket.com/albums/vv33/royvegas/?action=view¤t=TheEliminatorTurbografxCleaningKit.jpg&sort=ascending

He had a basic website with photos of all the TG-16 software + items that would make each release  "complete".

It's not much of a reference. It's just pictures everything roy happened to buy during his three-month Turbogasm and most of his shit wasn't actually complete. IIRC, he was missing the Players' Stats book and most of the posters and stickers that originally came with games. He had some rare items, like a TG16 display book, but lacked common things like the Stack Rack.

I know that folks will skewer me for this, but did anyone save the information that RoyVegas compiled when he was building his collection?

I would need his approval to send them out since I only got his permission to use them as described.

Well, to skewer both of you a little bit, I say let that fucker rot. Don't fan his ego by turning his half-assed, former collection into a monument. Considering it was the only thing he ever did that might be construed as beneficial to the community, it's pretty safe to say he was simply showcasing of his personal collection. It was his chance to publicly throw his slab on the ruler for fifteen minutes and fetishize his money spent before selling everything off and profiting on our hobby. If he'd ever actually been interested in creating a comprehensive reference he would have invited contributions and/or asked permission to use photos of others' rarities. It's also important to remember that deleting his precious gift to the community was an attempt to give us the finger after criticizing his gouging. Fuck him.

I totally understand your feelings on using RoyVegas's photos.

However, the origin of the photos really doesn't negate their usefulness.

That said, I don't care enough to seek out the photos because they were aesthetically-challenged. Had RoyVegas taken the time to compose his photos with a bit more flair (à la Aaron Nanto), you better believe I'd be using all the goddamn photos to create a reference guide. Thankfully, I have been spared this moral dilemma .

Anyway, the logistical problem (for me) is that I would want all the images standardized and uniform (lighting, composition) and RoyVegas' photos actually satisfied this criteria (namely, consistency).

Oh well. I'm glad I missed all the RoyVegas drama that went down.

I feel the desire to switch topics, so....

[CGQuarterly]

And RoyVegas should be arriving to defend himself/troll in 3, 2, 1....

Chris