Shockman Prices?

[HercTNT]

This community is clearly divided right down the center on buying, selling, shipping, etc. So here is what you do:

You get together a representative sample of buyers and sellers in the community, and sit down and talk about whats fair within the gated community of PCEFX.

What is considered lowballing?

what is considered gouging?

what is considered fair value?

What is the margin of error?

And what factors determine the criteria above?

Does the guy that gives away a freebie before putting up a sale get a break?  Does the guy that gives away freebies all the time have the right to sell for higher prices to compensate for

his generosity?  Two people are selling the same game complete, one has a slight blemish on the manual one does not. The guy without the blemish, can he sell for alittle higher and not be

scrutinized for gouging, after all its worth more for its condition right? The guy with the blemish, is he required by community etiquette to sell for cheaper or face said scrutiny? The rules will

change once again depending on complete game, hucard only, yellowing, no yellowing, pristine manual, manual with wrinkles, etc.  Its pretty obvious that there are a large number of people

with very different opinions on the matter or it would not keep coming up. So stop the cycle, come together, and lay down some ground work.

Anyone wanna jump me for trying to add some reason, go right ahead. Don't bother being proactive, keep complaining, wont solve anything. Don't like my ideas, come up with better ones

instead of ripping on mine. You got something solid to add, go for it, we can all benefit. Fix the problem here within the safety and confines of our gated community. Make it a buyers and

and sellers paradise for common people with common interests and goals. Attract new users, with more games and hardware to improve the selection of whats available. Otherwise Ebay and

global services like it will be your only choice like it or not, fair or not.

[Nazi NecroPhile]

This thread was not one of them, unless your goal is to hijack it and turn it into a hate ebay thread?  Last I checked this was about a single game and its current going rate.

I assumed Herc was responding to the $500 Cotton, since that was what was being discussed right before his post and he didn't quote anything else to make me think otherwise.  Even if he wasn't, it's pretty obvious he was talking about pricing in general and not solely about the current value of a single title.

I said getting as worked up as you are is a waste.

Who's worked up?  I'll say it again: bitching about eBay gougers is for entertainment purposes only!  I don't think anybody is frothing at the mouth over the injustice and working overtime on a coronary, nor are they on a crusade to change the world; it'd certainly be nice if we could change the gouging mind set, but I don't think any eBay sellers care what a handful of disgruntled forum members think.

[HercTNT]

This thread was not one of them, unless your goal is to hijack it and turn it into a hate ebay thread?  Last I checked this was about a single game and its current going rate.

I assumed Herc was responding to the $500 Cotton, since that was what was being discussed right before his post and he didn't quote anything else to make me think otherwise.  Even if he wasn't, it's pretty obvious he was talking about pricing in general and not solely about the current value of a single title.

I said getting as worked up as you are is a waste.

Who's worked up?  I'll say it again: bitching about eBay gougers is for entertainment purposes only!  I don't think anybody is frothing at the mouth over the injustice and working overtime on a coronary, nor are they on a crusade to change the world; it'd certainly be nice if we could change the gouging mind set, but I don't think any eBay sellers care what a handful of disgruntled forum members think.

The worked up part was my mistake. it was in reference to someone else's comment.  I was tired and got you confused with someone else. I was also talking in general as for some people these conversations seem to degrade into why ebay sucks thread of which there are plenty. once again my fault . I'm in total agreement with your last statement, which is why i would like to see a common set of "understood" ground rules for the regulars. Professor has been calling for a PCEFX turbo store for awhile now. I think its a great idea and would go a long way to sorting out alot of the questions i listed above. there are some really strong opinions on pricing, and will remain opinions until there is a general agreement of some kind among the members.

[PunkCryborg]

Shockman is overpriced on ebay if you really wanna play it get he PCE version for $15

[VestCunt]

Who's worked up? 

I get pretty fucking worked up. I do it for entertainment AND coronary purposes.

there are some really strong opinions on pricing, and will remain opinions until there is a general agreement of some kind among the members.

It would be nice, but impossible. Sometimes everyone agrees that a certain price is ridiculous and even free-market proponents like Canada and Bardoly get on board, but none of us agree 100% of the time. I usually see eye-to-eye with Black Tiger and Dragonmaster, but they've both posted price guides I disagree with. The only person who's 100% right 24/7 is Necromancer when he tells everyone to fuck off.  ;)

Even so, I don't think things are that bad. We've been over all this stuff before and after hashing it out we're generally happy to ignore our differences and get along. The problem is that old disagreements are being constantly agitated by an influx of newcomers. Every time the subject comes up, battle lines are redrawn and sides are taken.

The best solution would be abortions for some, miniature American flags for others....err...wait, i mean...

The best solution would be for one of the mods to post a giant sticky that says "WARNING: the PCEFX forums are home to both the Fuck Ebay Club and a 200+ page thread perpetually criticizing gougers. Certain members will relentlessly persecute gougers, real or imagined, as well as gouger sympathizers quoting ebay prices. Many members are long-time friends and it's not uncommon to cut deals and help each other out. Sellers in search of ebay profits and an anonymous "free market" free from criticism should face the fees and sell on ebay. Those searching for a price guide to measure penises or bask in the glory of their collection should also look elsewhere."

[bartre]

Shockman is overpriced on ebay if you really wanna play it get he PCE version for $15

but eets in eeengliiiiiish.
and yeah it is, last year I got a CIB copy for $45, great condition too.
Traded the box, i think to Hoobs...

[esteban]

The best solution would be for one of the mods to post a giant sticky that says "WARNING: the PCEFX forums are home to both the Fuck Ebay Club and a 200+ page thread perpetually criticizing gougers. Certain members will relentlessly persecute gougers, real or imagined, as well as gouger sympathizers quoting ebay prices. Many members are long-time friends and it's not uncommon to cut deals and help each other out. Sellers in search of ebay profits and an anonymous "free market" free from criticism should face the fees and sell on ebay. Those searching for a price guide to measure penises or bask in the glory of their collection should also look elsewhere."

Here you go (it hurts your eyes, but that's the point):

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[turboswimbz]

BEST WARNING SIGN ANYWHERE EVER!  This should be reposted often throughout the forum.

[roflmao]

BEST WARNING SIGN ANYWHERE EVER!  this should be reposted often throughout the forum.

Seconded.

[VestCunt]

The best solution would be for one of the mods to post a giant sticky that says "WARNING: the PCEFX forums are home to both the Fuck Ebay Club and a 200+ page thread perpetually criticizing gougers. Certain members will relentlessly persecute gougers, real or imagined, as well as gouger sympathizers quoting ebay prices. Many members are long-time friends and it's not uncommon to cut deals and help each other out. Sellers in search of ebay profits and an anonymous "free market" free from criticism should face the fees and sell on ebay. Those searching for a price guide to measure penises or bask in the glory of their collection should also look elsewhere."

Here you go (it hurts your eyes, but that's the point):

Somehow you took my turd of hate and polished it into a diamond of (Blodia) love. Reposting that should save time and keep me from thinking too much. Thanks Esty!