Playing Ys 4 with english patch....FINALLY

pixeljunkie · 03/30/2006, 03:37 PM

I friggin LOVE this game!!!!!!!

Currently in Romun Castle...probably a little more than halfway through it. So great. I've played some of the newer remakes Ys 1 and 2 eternal...most of Oath in Felghana [stuck at the moment] and Ys 6 Ark of Napishtim on PS2 [which was really good], but THIS ONE has got me glued to the screen. Great art, awesome levels and great boss fights. So glad I am finally getting to play this. I just wish I knew what the hell they were saying in the voiceovers.

I'll be sad when this one is finished.

Seldane · 03/30/2006, 03:44 PM

Ys IV: The Dawn of Ys
Speech Translations
Version 1.1
by Deuce (deucemugen[at]hotmail.com)
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Table of Contents

I. Introduction
II. Speech Translations
1. Opening - Showdown with Darm
2. Esteria - Adol & Dogi Return
3. Town of Minea - Meeting Goban
4. Town of Minea - Drinking in the Bar
5. Town of Minea - Lilia Appears
6. Resurrection Ceremony
7. Border Pass - Introducing Karna
8. Border Pass - Introducing General Leo
9. Border Pass - Duren is Bored to Death
10. Arieda Mine - Lemnos is Injured
11. Village of Arieda - Rall Flair appears
12. Slano of the Five Disciples
13. Slano's Tomb - Introducing the Clan of Darkness
14. Village of Arieda - Lemnos is Recovering
15. The Great Roda Tree - Ramess the Sage 1
16. History 1: Legend of Darkness
17. The Great Roda Tree - Ramess the Sage 2
18. Talim of the Five Disciples
19. Great Forest of Selceta - The Three Conspirators
20. Valley of Lament - Dropped by Gadis
21. Valley of Lament - Introducing Leeza
22. Hill of Days Past - Leeza
23. Sacred Castle - Leeza Flees
24. Sacred Castle - Clan of Darkness vs. Duren
25. Sacred Castle - Eldeel
26. Village of Laparo - Speaking with Leeza and Schultz
27. Miyu of the Five Disciples
28. Village of Libra - Tim's Grandfather
29. Ice Mountain - I'll Save You, Tim!
28. Ice Mountain - You're Saved, Tim!
29. Venus, The Abandoned Village - Enzo the Sage
30. History 2: Legend of Light
31. Village of Libra - Tim Turns to Stone
32. Corrupted Land - Clan of Darkness
33. Cave of the Holy Mother - Eldeel
34. Aria's Small Shrine 1
35. History 3 - Legend of Hope
36. Aria's Small Shrine 2
37. Border Fortress - Leo & the Clan of Darkness
38. Plain - Meeting with Lilia
39. Abandoned Mine - Feena & Lair
40. Darm Tower - Adol, you must die!
41. Darm Tower - Keith Will Be All Right
42. Darm Tower - I'm All Right
43. Village of Libra - Tim Recovers!
44. Ruins of No Return - Entrance
45. Ruins of No Return - Tim & Dogi
46. Ruins of No Return - Gadis
47. Rady of the Five Disciples
48. Torie of the Five Disciples
49. Lefance's Tomb - Lefance 1
50. Great Forest of Selceta - Duren
51. Lakeside Ruins - Eldeel's Ritual
52. Lakeside Ruins - Restoration of the Ancient Ruins
53. Lakeside Ruins - Guruda, You Bastard!
53. Lakeside Ruins - The Seal Has Finally Been Broken...
54. Bronze District - Dogi Arrives
55. Bronze District - Leo Arrives
56. Bronze District - Leo's Last Moments
57. Silver Fortress - Dogi is wounded
58. Lefance's Tomb - Lefance 2
59. Lunes Tower - Guruda
60. Lunes Tower - Guruda's Last Moments
61. Lefance's Tomb - Lefance 3
62. Temple of the Sun - The Five Disciples
63. Temple of the Sun - Arem Appears
64. Temple of the Sun - Arem Gathers his Subjects
65. Collapse of the Ancient Ruins - Farewell, Lefance
66. Ending - A New Beginning
67. Ending - Winter Night
III. Translation Notes
IV. Credits
V. Legal Stuff

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I. INTRODUCTION

Welcome to the script translation for Ys IV: Mask of the Sun for PC Engine,
also known as the TurboGrafx-16, or TurboDUO (or even just DUO). Here, you
will find a translation of all of the vocal tracks in the game, from start
to finish. Depending on how well this is received, I may turn it into a
full plot FAQ, but time will tell. By reading this, you will be able to get
a pretty solid idea of the full story behind the game.

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II. SPEECH TRANSLATIONS

1. Opening - Showdown with Darm
Darm: "We demons were born from the power of magic. Your powers pale in
comparison to my own. I will show you just why demons are to be
feared!"

2. Esteria - Adol & Dogi Return
Dogi: "Not much longer, Adol. Soon we'll be in Esteria. But time sure
flies... I can't believe it's already been two years since we left.
I wonder how much has changed. I hear that Goban went straight and
opened up a store, but I just can't picture it. I'll have to see
for myself. Hm? Looks like we're coming into Barbado Port."

3. Town of Minea - Meeting Goban
Goban: "Dogi! Dogi, is that you? And that's...Adol!"
Dogi: "Goban! Boss!"
Goban: "It's been a long time, you jackass! You just up and left without a
word two years ago!"
Dogi: "W-whaddya mean, Boss? We heard you'd opened a store and decided to
come visit!"
Goban: "Hehe, I see. In that case, I'll go easy on you. I'm glad you came
too, Adol. Follow me. Everyone will be in shock!"

[The three begin walking toward town.]
Goban: "You two look well. Esteria's changed a lot since last you saw it."
Dogi: "Nothing more so than you, eh, Boss? Have you really given up
thieving? If so, that's a relief."
Goban: "Watch it! Even though I've quit, I'm still in charge of you. That
hasn't changed."
Dogi: "Hah! Whatever works for you, Boss."
Goban: "And you shouldn't call me 'Boss' anymore. I'm now 'Mr. Goban of the
Trading Post.'"
Dogi: "Hahaha, doesn't suit you at all."
Goban: "Shut it, you jackass!"

[Arrival in Minea]
Goban: "Hey, everyone! Adol and Dogi are back!"

[The townsfolk gather around Adol.]
Goban: "Well, we're going to go to Orman's Bar. Go around and say hi to
everyone, then come join us."

4. Town of Minea - Drinking in the Bar
Goban: "And then, hehe, I told him so!"
Dogi: "C'mon, lay off me, Boss."
Man: "Hm? Is that..."
Dogi: "Oh? He's here?"
Goban: "Yo, Adol! You took your sweet time! Hm? What's with the worried
look? Come on, sit down! I want to hear all of your traveling
stories!"

[Later, as they leave the bar.]
Goban: "Hahaha, it's been a good day. Come on back to my store. You can
sleep it off for tonight, then check out the rest of Esteria in
the morning."

[They travel to Goban's shop]
Goban: "We're here. This is my shop. Come in, make yourselves at home."

5. Town of Minea - Lilia Appears
Lilia: "Mr. Goban, please open up. Mr. Goban!"
Goban: "Who's out there at this hour... oh? Ah, it's you, Lilia."
Lilia: "I'm sorry, I know it's early. But I heard that Adol and Dogi were
back, and..."
Goban: "Hahaha...! 'Adol and Dogi,' eh? I think you mean just 'Adol.' I get
you! Hang on, I'll wake him. Heeey! Adol! Adol! Hey, Dogi. Where's
Adol?"
Dogi: "Huh? What is it, Boss? Adol's right here.... Hm? Hey, Adol? Where'd
he go? Adol! Adoool!"

6. Resurrection Ceremony
Man: "Damn! Another failure. Just like I thought, it's useless without
that power..."

7. Border Pass - Karna's Introduction
Karna: "Let go of me! Tell me what I've done!"
Soldier A: "Just come on!"
Soldier B: "You're acting suspicious! Why have you come here?"
Karna: "I told you, I wandered off the path and got lost! Now let GO!"
Soldier A: "No regular girl would just wander up here. You little... just come
quietly with-- Hm? Who are you?"
Soldier B: "You're a friend of this girl? We're taking you both into custody!"

[Karna knocks out the soldiers.]
Karna: "Don't worry, they're just unconscious. I'm Karna. The village of
Arieda isn't far beyond this mountain pass. Anyway, it's dangerous to
stay here. Perhaps we'll meet again, fate willing!"

8. Border Pass - Introducing General Leo
Leo: "Freeze!"
Soldier A: "Captain!?"
Leo: "That's 'General Leo,' you simpering dolt! Hey, you! The kid with
the red hair! You think you can escape from us? Fine, I'll show you
our military strength. Bring out our example, boys!"
Soldier B: "Yes, sir!"

[The soldiers drag out a cannon.]
Leo: "Fire!"

[The shot explodes near Adol.]
Leo: "Hahaha...! You see? Cower before our might. Continue to resist,
and we'll blast you to pieces. Men, seize his weapons and throw him
into the prison!"
Soldier B: "Yes, sir!"

9. Border Pass - Duren is Bored to Death.
Duren: "*yawn*.... huh? They've brought me a playmate, eh? Good, I've been
almost bored to death. The name's Duren. I was walking to the port
and stumbled across some drunken soldiers. They arrested me for no
reason and threw me in here three days ago, damn them.... similar
story with you, I'm guessing?"

[Later, Karna comes to help.]
Duren: "Hm? What the...? Who the heck are you?"
Karna: "Shh! Keep it down! I'm going to break the lock."
Duren: "Whoa! I don't know who you are, babe, but thanks a million!"
Karna: "I told you to keep quiet! Now follow me!"

10. Arieda Mine - Lemnos is Injured
Karna: "Lemnos!"
Lemnos: "Ugh..., We must... protect... Lord Slano's tomb... from... the Clan
of Darkness...!"
Karna: "Lemnos... what in the world happened to you? He'll die if we don't
get him some help. Adol, we're going to take Lemnos back to the
village. Be careful on your way back!"

11. Village of Arieda - Rall Flair appears
Flair: "If it isn't Adol! I never thought I'd see you here. Do you
remember me? It's me, Flair Rall, the doctor of Rance Village.
I came here to find the 'Purity of Selceta.' I hear it can be used
to make a medicine to cure any ailment. But since there are so many
demons outside, I'm forced to stay here for awhile. Anyway, I'll
introduce you to the village elder. Let's go to his house."

12. Slano of the Five Disciples
Slano: "Adol Christin, I have awaited your arrival. My name is Slano,
strongest warrior of the ancient Selcetan Dynasty. Foolish ones now
seek to open the sealed Gate. Rather, they are already in the
process of doing so. There is precious little time. We need your
strength. The flames of justice will consume the evil ones. I will
now grant you the ability to use magic."

13. Slano's Tomb - Introducing the Clan of Darkness
Karna: "Adol? Ah, you're okay! What on earth happened? Oh, what's that
wand...? Is that the treasure?"
Guruda: "Indeed it is!"
Karna: "Who's there?"

[The Clan of Darkness enters the room.]
Guruda: "Heh heh heh.... We were unable to figure out how to get the door
open. I guess we're in your debt."
Karna: "Are you people the Clan of Darkness?"
Gadis: "Heeheehee! That's right. I'm Gadis. You'd better just keep quiet
and hand over that wand, cutiepie."
Bami: "I'm Bami. I don't care if you resist or not. You'll die here either
way!"
Guruda: "And I am Guruda. That mystic wand's existence is a hindrance to our
plans. Bami, kill them!"

[Bami fires a blast of magic, which misses.]
Bami: "Hahaha...! Nice dodge. But look at the wall behind you!"

[Demons sprout from the wall.]
Bami: "Surprised? I can transform anything into a demon. Now, my
lovelies, kill these two!"

[Adol and Karna kill the demons.]
Bami: "Tsk! You're not half bad. But this time will be different. I'll
turn you both into horrifying monsters!"

[A sudden earthquake occurs.]
Bami: "Wh-what the...?"
Guruda: "Damn. This is all we need. Luck is on your side, you two. Let's go!"
Karna: "I'll bet that Master Slano is angry. Adol, we need to get out of
here!"

14. Village of Arieda - Lemnos is Recovering
Lemnos: "You are Adol? I'm told I owe you my life. Yes, those three were the
ones who turned me into a demon. Their boss is a cruel and murderous
man named Guruda. And there's the super-strong giant, Gadis. But
the most dangerous is probably the woman, Bami. She changed me with
her sorcery into that thing.... Anyway, please be careful. That's
all I can tell you for now..."

15. The Great Roda Tree - Ramess the Sage 1
Ramess: "Adol Christin. All is eternal, and springs from the well of the
past. I will tell you the true history of this land. Hear my
thoughts..."

16. History 1: Legend of Darkness
Voice: In the distant past, a nation was founded on a small continent in the
great Duarl Sea. Its name was 'Eldeen.' It was a land of beings
with mighty wings. Eldeen held a power source greater than Heaven:
Under the divine protection of the 'Mask of the Sun,' it flourished
for 1000 years and seven months. However, a great cataclysm was
visited on the land, and in the course of one night, it sank beneath
the sea. None live now who know why it happened.

Southern Europe, on the coast of Selceta. The few Eldeenian
survivors escaped to this area by using the power of the Mask of the
Sun. With the skills and devices of Eldeen, the undeveloped land of
Selceta grew into the continent's most productive farmland.

However, those folk who prospered so grew corrupt and greedy. The
land was split into two bitterly warring factions. The war-torn
Selceta was conquered, with schemes and trickery, by a man known as
the 'Lord of Slaughter.' That man was Arem. And thus, Selceta was
plunged into a dark age.

17. The Great Roda Tree - Ramess the Sage 2
Ramess: "That is all I can tell you. There are two other Sages like myself
in this land. When you have heard the complete tale from all three
of us, the mysteries of Selceta will be laid bare. Now, be on your
way."

18. Talim of the Five Disciples
Talim: "My name is Talim. I am the spirit of the great forest. The evil
creatures grow in strength daily. As you have passed our test, so
too will your power grow. Even the voiceless speak in the presence
of the spirit. You must proceed further into the great wood."

19. Great Forest of Selceta - The Three Conspirators
Gadis: "Guruda, it looks like that red-headed swordsman has gotten Talim's
power, too."
Guruda: "I see. He's just getting stronger and stronger. This is no good."
Bami: "Damn it! If I'd only killed him then...!"
Gadis: "He's dead the next time I see him!"
Bami: "I'm sure he's still around here somewhere!"
Guruda: "Now, hold on, don't be so hasty. We'll come back to the Holy
Grounds. For now, we have to report in."
Bami: "*Another* report? Why do we have to ask him for instructions at
every turn?!"
Guruda: "Haven't we been over this? First, we have to gain his confidence.
Once we have that..."
Bami: "Yeah, yeah, I get it. Whatever you say!"

20. Valley of Lament - Dropped by Gadis

[In Adol's normal form]
Gadis: "Hahaha...! I thought you'd follow us. But now there's nowhere to
run! So, what now? Hehehe... I guess you die!"

[When using Alter magic]
Gadis: "I suppose I'd better cut down this bridge so that swordsman can't
cross. Huh? There's a demon crossing. Oh well. Looks like you're
going for a ride!"

21. Valley of Lament - Introducing Leeza

[In Adol's normal form]
Leeza: "What on earth happened? You're lucky to be alive after such a fall.
This should help.... I have to go, though..."

[When using Alter magic]
Leeza: "Are you okay? Oh, you're hurt. Just hold still for a second, okay?
You scared me when you dropped in so suddenly. Hehehe. You're
actually kinda cute, for a demon. Okay, this should make it better.
Be careful on your way home. Bye-bye!"

22. Hill of Days Past - Leeza
[In Adol's normal form 1 - If initial meeting was in human form]
Leeza: "Oh, you're... that's right, I didn't introduce myself. I'm Leeza.
Laparo village isn't far beyond here. Are you still hurt? You should
rest here for awhile."
Leeza: "This hill is my favorite place. Look, you can see almost the whole
forest from here. Isn't it beautiful? Ever since I was a child, I'd
come up here whenever I was feeling sad. It would always make me
feel better. It even helps me to forget about him for awhile....
Oh, I'm sorry. I'm just rambling. Best if I stop now. Well, you
take care."

[In Adol's normal form 2 - If initial meeting was using Alter magic]
Leeza: "Hello. I don't think I've seen you before. I'm Leeza. Laparo
village isn't much further up the path. You look very tired. Why
don't you rest here awhile?"
Leeza: "This hill is my favorite place. Look, you can see almost the whole
forest from here. Isn't it beautiful? Ever since I was a child, I'd
come up here whenever I was feeling sad. It would always make me
feel better. It even helps me to forget about him for awhile....
Oh, I'm sorry. I'm just rambling. Best if I stop now. Well, you
take care."

[Using Alter magic 1 - If initial meeting also in Alter form]
Leeza: "Oh? You're that demon from before. I'm Leeza. Laparo village isn't
much further up the path. Are you still hurt? You should rest here
awhile."
Leeza: "This hill is my favorite place. Look, you can see almost the whole
forest from here. Isn't it beautiful? Ever since I was a child, I'd
come up here whenever I was feeling sad. It would always make me
feel better. It even helps me to forget about him for awhile....
Oh, I'm sorry. I'm just rambling. I need to be going. Take care!"

[Using Alter magic 2 - If initial meeting was in Adol's normal form]
Leeza: "Oh? You're a rather cute little demon. I'm Leeza. Laparo village
isn't far up the path. Please, have a seat. I need someone to talk
to."
Leeza: "This hill is my favorite place. Look, you can see almost the whole
forest from here. Isn't it beautiful? Ever since I was a child, I'd
come up here whenever I was feeling sad. It would always make me
feel better. It even helps me to forget about him for awhile....
Oh, I'm sorry. I'm just rambling. I need to be going. Take care!"

23. Sacred Castle - Leeza Flees
Leeza: "Eeeek!! Please, you must help me!!"

[The boss of the Sacred Castle approaches.]

[If meeting on the Hill of Days Past was in Alter form]
Leeza: "I don't know who you are, but thank you so much!"

[If meeting on the Hill of Days Past was in normal form]
Leeza: "You're the same man from before... thank you for helping me!"

[When Adol moves forward]
Leeza: "Hm? You dropped something. "

[If meeting in the Valley of Lament was in Alter form]
Leeza: "...Maybe I'm imagining things. But I could swear that I tied this
bandana around a little demon's leg... but it can't be."
[If meeting in the Valley of Lament was in normal form]
Leeza: "This is the bandana I used on your wound. Has it healed? I'm glad
to hear that."
Leeza: "By the way, what are you doing here? ...I see. You came to rescue
me. But I can't go back yet. I still have somewhere I need to go."

24. Sacred Castle - Clan of Darkness vs. Duren
Guruda: "Hold it! Heh, coming here unprepared was pretty stupid of you...
Now, just hand over those two mystic wands. It'll be an even trade,
you get me?"
Leeza: "Don't do it! You can't trust these people!!"
Guruda: "Shut up! If you don't comply, I'll gut her like a fish. Gadis!!"

[Adol gives up the two wands.]
Guruda: "Heh, that's perfect. Now, watch closely... as the girl dies!"
Duren: "You're just as big a coward as ever, Guruda!"

[Duren walks in.]
Gadis: "Duren!? What the hell are you doing here?"
Duren: "I come here looking for the Gold City, and I find my old comrades.
What's wrong? No warm welcome for Master Duren, former Clansman of
Darkness?"
Bami: "Bah...! You deserted the Clan like a coward, and you dare to show
your face now?! I'll kill the lot of you!"
Guruda: "Back off, Bami! We have the Wands. We don't have to waste any more
time on these fools. Let's go!"

[The 3 Clan of Darkness members head inside.]
Leeza: "I'm so sorry, It's my fault that you gave up those Wands..."
Duren: "Hey, hey now, what's the deal, Adol? I don't see any gold anywhere!
Man, what a massive disappointment. Oh, right! Just so you know,
I'm not in league with those people anymore. I cut ties with the
Clan of Darkness some time back. 'Course, you can believe me or not,
your choice! But you need to follow them. I'll protect the girl.
You head in after them."

25. Sacred Castle - Eldeel
Leeza: "Eldeel!"
Eldeel: "Leeza...? I told you not to come here. Oh-ho, you're Adol Christin?
My name is Eldeel, descendant of the great Winged Ones. I've heard
about you. It's an honor to meet the fabled savior of Ys. I have
something I wish to show you. Think back to the final battle for Ys,
with the demon known as Darm. Was this he, perchance?"

[The Black Pearl begins to shine]
Eldeel: "Hahaha... surprised? I'm sure you never again expected to see this
stone, which you call the Black Pearl. My people know it as 'The
Speaking Stone.' The Speaking Stone holds the secrets of the
ancients and is the source of magic. However, it is grossly
misunderstood. The Stone commands great power, yes, but it is
nothing more than a tool. And now, the power of the Speaking Stone
will be conferred to me. Behold!"

[Eldeel absorbs the Speaking Stone's power.]
Eldeel: "Hahaha! Now all of the Stone's power is mine. This is magnificent!
I've no more need of this thing. Begone!!"

[The Speaking Stone is destroyed.]
Gadis: "Oh! The Stone...!"
Eldeel: "That's not the end of it, though. When I am joined with the Mask
of the Sun, the true source of power, all will be in readiness. At
that time, the world will bow down at my feet. This place is of no
further use to me. Adol, your trivial meddling ends here. Die!!"

[Eldeel attacks Adol with energy, and Adol collapses.]
Duren: "Adol...!"
Eldeel: "Hahaha.... now nothing stands in my way. Now, let's go!"

26. Village of Laparo - Speaking with Leeza and Schultz
Leeza: "Ah, you're awake. This is my house. When you were knocked out, Mr.
Duren carried you all the way here. Then he said he was going to try
and track down those three of the Clan. My father, Schultz, has
something he wants to tell you. Please hear him out."
Schultz: "I haven't the words to thank you for saving Leeza. Perhaps you have
the power to save Selceta, Adol. I will tell you our secret. The
Winged Ones in the Sacred District, throughout many generations,
attended to their ancient duty."
Leeza: "That duty was me. None of the villagers except for the elder and my
father know that I visit the Sacred District."
Schultz: "I do not know why that man inhabits the Sacred District. But he is
the last survivor of the Winged Ones."
Leeza: "Eldeel used to be very kind-hearted. He was always glad to see
me... no matter what kind of boring stuff I'd talk about, he'd always
listen. I was so happy just to be around him. But something about
him changed somehow. He became quiet and brooding, and would go off
somewhere for days at a time.... Lately, he never lets me visit
him.
Schultz: "As my daughter said, he changed... but that change began just around
with the Clan of Darkness showed up in this land. I'm certain that
those three did something to poison his mind."
Leeza: "Please, Adol! Stop the Clan of Darkness and save Eldeel... no, save
all of Selceta!"

27. Miyu of the Five Disciples
Miyu: "I am Miyu, servant of Selceta's guardian deity, Lord Lefance.
Swordsman, if the sealed power is released, all life in the world
will be in torment. In the service of justice, all barriers can be
overcome. I will grant you the power to traverse distances in an
instant."

28. Village of Libra - Tim's Grandfather
Old Man: "I said this is an emergency! Won't any of you come help?! Fine,
then, to hell with all of you!"

29. Ice Mountain - I'll Save You, Tim!
Old Man: "Damn you, damn you! Let Tim go, you frozen monster! Damn it! Oh,
you're just in time! I don't know who you are, but please, help me!"

[The boss begins to move.]
Old Man: "Aah! It's moving! ...But I won't run away! I'll save you, Tim!!"

[The lump of ice attacks the old man.]
Old Man: "Aaaaa!"

28. Ice Mountain - You're Saved, Tim!
Old Man: "Thank you, swordsman! Oh, Tim, are you hurt?"
Tim: "I'm fine, Grandpa! My leg's a little sore, but it's just a
scratch!"
Old Man: "I don't ever want you to wander out of the village again! Do you
understand? Now, let's go home! Say 'thank you' to the nice man."
Tim: "Thanks, mister! I'm Tim, from Libra village. As payment, I'll tell
you something useful. A little bit past here is the old village of
Venus, where only one house still has someone living in it. I hear
there's a really wise old man living there. Maybe you should check
it out? Next time, maybe we can play!"
Old Man: "Well, swordsman. We're going to head back to Libra. Feel free to
stop in any time."

29. Venus, the abandoned village - Enzo the Sage
Enzo: "The chosen warrior. My name is Enzo. I have crossed time and
borrowed this body to tell you the history of Selceta. Close your
eyes, and hear the voice of my spirit."

30. History 2: Legend of Light
Voice: In the early days of the King of Slaughter, Arem, the land was in
ruin along with its people. It was a dark age, when power replaced
justice. All of the people lived in constant fear. But one day,
fate brought a hero to stand against Arem; that man was Lefance. He,
along with his fellows, fought under the flag of fellowship and
justice, and thus overthrew Arem.

Slano, the military warrior without peer.
Talim, the mystic, unsurpassed in the world.
Miyu, the Earth wizard.
Rady, the wise and learned diplomat.
Torie, sorcerer of Light.

They would later be called the 'Five Disciples,' and fought alongside
Lefance against Arem's forces. At the end of the bloody battle,
Lefance had defeated Arem. The ruined earth again knew the light of
hope.

With the overwhelming support of the people, Lefance founded the
Selcetan Dynasty, with himself as ruler. The newly crowned king took
a ferry to Eldeen, land of the Winged Ones, where he was given the
source of greatest power: the Mask of the Sun. King Lefance used
that power to build a great citadel overnight, and the mask was
enshrined at its center, in the Temple of the Sun. Then, to help
control the power of the mask, a twin was fashioned: the Mask of
the Moon. The Selcetan Dynasty, with the blessings of the two masks,
saw unprecedented prosperity. With humans and Winged Ones working in
peace and brotherhood, a golden age began.

31. Village of Libra - Tim Turns to Stone
Old Man: "Ahh, it's good to be home. Tim, how are you feeling?"
Tim: "I'm fine, Grandpa! Look, I'll show you!"

[Tim starts to run off, but slows down]
Tim: "Huh? My legs don't want to move..."
Old Man: "Hey, Tim. What's wrong!?"
Tim: "Grand... pa.... I can't move my leeeegs!"

[Tim's legs turn to stone.]
Old Man: "Wh-what on earth?! Tim's legs are turning to stone! That demon's
poison must have entered your wound. There are no doctors in this
village! What should I do?!"

32. Corrupted Land - Clan of Darkness
Gadis: "Wha--! You...!! You're still following us around?"
Guruda: "You're a persistent one. You still don't get that there's nothing
you can do against us, do you?"
Gadis: "Bah, I'll just kill him now!!"
Bami: "Heheheh... no, no, just killing him won't be any fun. I've got a
much better idea in mind."

[Adol is turned into a demon.]
Bami: "Hahaha! A perfect fit. Now you'll roam the forests until the end
of your wretched days!!"

33. Cave of the Holy Mother - Eldeel
Eldeel: "So that's where Sieg Fact is.... now the location of Mask of the
Moon is made plain to see. Go, Guruda, and begin your preparations!"
Guruda: "As you wish, Master Eldeel."

34. Aria's Small Shrine 1
Aria: "Long have I waited. Though my form is strange, you know who I am.
My name is Aria. Now, I will tell you the end of the legend."

35. History 3 - Legend of Hope
Voice: After their deaths, the Mask of the Sun's power was passed down to
Lefance and the Five Disciples' descendants. Several hundred years
passed. Eventually, the peaceful times of Selceta came to an end.
The dark sorcerer, Sieg Fact, made his appearance. Sieg borrowed the
military strength of the mighty Romn Empire and began his invasion,
seeking the Mask of the Sun. It was believed that Lefance's fortress
city would be able to withstand any assault. But then, tragedy
struck.

The Mask of the Sun's only controlling influence, the Mask of the
Moon, fell into Sieg Fact's hands. Sieg used the Mask of the Moon to
subvert the Mask of the Sun's power to evil purposes. Because of
this, the Mask of the Sun became unstable, and eventually a great
crisis befell Selceta. Earthquakes, famine, pestilence and demons
appeared....

At their wits' end, the descendants of the Five Disciples used the
last of their strength. In order to seal away the power of the
rampaging Mask of the Sun, the entire city was sunken deep into the
earth. In time, the entire area was covered with forest. The ground
of Selceta was swallowed by the dense sea of trees. There now
remains no evidence that it ever existed at all.

36. Aria's Small Shrine 2
Aria: "And so my task is complete. Now, go! The seal upon the Mask of the
Sun must not be broken!"

37. Border Fortress - Leo & the Clan of Darkness
Leo: "So in order to find the Golden City, we need that mask?"
Guruda: "That is precisely it. With the Mask of the Moon, the Golden City
will be yours."
Leo: "Gahahaha...! Very well, then. My men are at your command. And
you'll bring it back to me."
Bami: "What's this...? I've never seen anything like it."
Leo: "This was seized from that red-haired swordsman awhile ago, when he
was arrested nearby. He probably stole it from someone. It feels
comfortable to hold, but none of us can use it. Do with it whatever
you want."
Guruda: "I humbly thank you. Now, Gadis will depart for Esteria."
Gadis: "Leave it to me, sir. I'll bring you the Mask of the Moon without
Fail."
Leo: "Yes, I'll wait for your good news. Gahahaha...!"

38. Plain - Meeting with Lilia
Lilia: "Adol! My wish finally came true. I hoped that if I waited under
this tree, you'd come to see me.... I came here every day, believing
it would happen. I don't mean to hold you up. As long as you're
well, that's all I care about."

39. Abandoned Mine - Feena & Lair
Feena: "Adol, can you hear me? It is I, Feena, Goddess of Ys. Much as I
hate it, there's no time to celebrate our reunion. Your strength is
needed once more. "
Lair: "Have you been well, Adol? It's Lair. According to the stone tablet
you carry, we Goddesses came originally from Eldeen, homeland of the
Winged Ones, along with the Black Pearl...."
Feena: "Please think back to the legends of the great forest. We left
Eldeen for Selceta, as did the Mask of the Sun, with the Winged Ones
of that time. Eldeel is the last of their kind. Even now, he seeks
to break the seal on the Mask of the Sun, now so deeply buried."
Lair: "In order to unearth that power, he needs the Mask of the Moon. It
was stolen from the Selcetan Dynasty 700 years ago by Sieg Fact, who
took it to Esteria. He then used the power of the Mask of the Moon
to spawn Darm. Darm's revival two years ago was because of his
direct actions, so long did he live. Indeed, Sieg Fact is the
original form of Dark Fact."
Feena: "Eldeel and his servants are frantically searching for the Mask of
the Moon. Now, we will give it to you. The 'Mask of Eyes,' used to
reveal hidden passages. It is, in truth, the Mask of the Moon itself.
Whatever happens, you must safeguard it, please."
Lair: "Adol, someone's coming!"

40. Darm Tower -Adol, you must die!
Lilia: "Adol, be careful! Keith has...!"
Gadis: "Hahaha...! So you've come with the Mask of the Moon, just as
expected. Trust the noble hero to run to the fair maiden's rescue.
Heeheehee.... Now we're going to see just how noble you really are.
Keith, descendant of Fact. Kill Adol and take the Mask of the Moon!"
Lilia: "You two, please stop!"
Keith: "Adol, you must die!"

41. Darm Tower - Keith Will Be All Right
Feena: "Keith will be all right. We will no longer allow evildoers to
manipulate the minds of Esterians."
Lair: "This is all we can do. Adol, brave warrior, the rest falls to you."
Gadis: "What the hell was that!? What's wrong, Keith? Get up! Damn it.
Now you'll get the honor of fighting the great Gadis personally! For
the honor of the Clan of Darkness, you will never escape this tower
alive!"

42. Darm Tower - I'm All Right
Soldier: "A-all troops, fall back!"
Lilia: "Is Keith going to be all right?"
Keith: "Ugh..."
Lilia: "Adol, thank you so much. Keith will probably recover...."
Dogi: "Keith! Lilia! Are you okay?"
Lilia: "Dogi!"
Dogi: "I heard the whole thing and came after you. What the hell
happened?"
Keith: "Agh, I'm all right. Gadis used some transformation technique on me,
and I.... I'm sorry, everyone! I'm the descendant of a priest of
mental discipline, and I let myself get controlled...."
Lilia: "Don't worry, Keith. Come on, let's get out of here."

43. Village of Libra - Tim Recovers!
Flair: "I've given him the medicine. Now we just have to wait..."

[Tim changes back to normal.]
Tim: "Ah... Grandpa?"
Old Man: "Oh, Tim! You can understand me?"
Tim: "Of course I can. Don't exaggerate, Grandpa! Hnngh! If you hadn't
rescued me, I think I would've been bored forever. I've got to go
play a while!"

[Tim begins running around.]
Old Man: "H-hey! Wait, Tim! It's dangerous out, so don't leave the village,
you hear me? Phew... I swear, that kid is going to be the death of
me... but he's well again, and that's what matters. Dr. Flair, Adol,
thank you so very much. If not for you two, I... [weeps]"

[The old man returns to his home.]
Flair: "I'm glad we made it here in time. What will you do now? In my
case, I think I'll--"
Tim: "Move it! You're in the way!"

[Tim crashes between the two.]
Flair: "Well, it looks like Tim's feeling much better. Hahaha! ...Huh?"

[Tim sees a Roo.]
Tim: "Ack! What's with you? Hahahaha, that tickles! Ah, hey! Wait up!"
Flair: "Hey, Tim. Wait! ...He's gone. Adol, I think this is best kept
secret from the villagers while you bring him back, don't you? They
don't need to worry any more than they already have. What? He only
just left, so he can't have gone far."

44. Ruins of No Return - Entrance
Tim: "Hey, mister! I get it, you want to take me home, right? Not gonna
happen!"

45. Ruins of No Return - Tim & Dogi
Tim: "Ack! What's that?"
Dogi: "I've come to save you, Adol! How pathetic. I got all worried and
followed you from Esteria, and what do I find? No, that Karna girl
guided me as far as the Water Village. And then I tracked you all
the way from there. If I hadn't shown up when I did..."
Tim: "Mister, who's this?"
Dogi: "It was you? You led Adol to a place like this!? Anyway, let's
hurry and get out of here!"
Tim: "Aaaah, leggo! Lemme go!"
Dogi: "Oh, shut up! Come on, let's go!"

46. Ruins of No Return - Gadis
Gadis: "Hold it!"

[The Roo transforms into Gadis]
Gadis: "No one left to get in our way now. Heeheehee... it's me. Gadis,
whom you defeated in Darm Tower. I was dead then, no doubt. But
Master Eldeel gave me one last chance. So that this time, I can end
your life!"

47. Rady of the Five Disciples
Rady: "I am Rady. He who passes the tests of all five Disciples will be
granted an audience with Lord Lefance. I will confer unto you the
power of Light, to banish the Darkness. Before the holy light,
wicked creatures are shamed by their own black hearts. This magic
will freeze those of evil purpose."

48. Torie of the Five Disciples
Torie: "I am Torie. As Lefance's purpose is our own, so too is his power.
The moon illuminates even the darkest of nights. That which your
eyes see is not the only reality. Look with your mind's eye. It
will see only the truth...."

49. Lefance's Tomb - Lefance 1
Lefance: "Adol Christin, it is good that you have come. I am Lefance,
protector of Selceta, and of its greatest power. You now stand deep
underneath the great forest, in El Doran, the ancient capital of
Selceta. The Mask of the Sun is sealed away here. Minions of evil
do not understand its fearsome power and seek to break the seal.

Picture this. The source of the power which sank the kingdom of
Eldeen is concealed in this great woodland. When the Winged Ones
used the Mask of the Moon to control the Mask of the Sun, it
reawakened that same power. If Eldeel acquires it, all the land will
be reduced to cinder and ash. Take this wand. When bathed in its
light, no attack shall harm you.

The six magics have now been gathered here. But at present, you will
still find it difficult to defeat the darkness. I will now bestow my
righteous intent unto your magic power! Adol, go to the lakeside
ruins! Whatever happens, you must halt the restoration of the Mask
of the Sun!"

50. Great Forest of Selceta - Duren
Duren: "'s been a while, Adol! It's me, Duren! I've been tracking those
guys since we last met, and it looks like something big is starting
at the lakeside ruins. There are a lot of demons gathering around
there. I saw that guy with the wings flying off toward the ruins,
carrying a girl. It was too far off to see clearly, but I think it
was Leeza... you be careful!"

51. Lakeside Ruins - Eldeel's Ritual
[In Adol's normal form]
Eldeel: "Who's there!?"
Leeza: "Adol!"
Eldeel: "You. I'm surprised you're still alive. ...oh-ho, it looks like
you're under Lefance's protection. But we will have nothing to fear
once the power is mine. Whatever you do, you're too late. It is
time. No one can stop me now. It has begun!"
Bami: "I won't let you interfere! Our ambitions will now be realized. At
long last.... But first, you and I have unfinished business. Attack
me, boy!"

[In Alter form]
Eldeel: "Who's there!? Did you actually think you could fool me?"
[Adol's Alter magic is negated.]
Leeza: "Adol!"
Eldeel: "You. I'm surprised you're still alive. ...oh-ho, it looks like
you're under Lefance's protection. But we will have nothing to fear
once the power is mine. Whatever you do, you're too late. It is
time. No one can stop me now. It has begun!"
Bami: "I won't let you interfere! Our ambitions will now be realized. At
long last.... But first, you and I have unfinished business. Attack
me, boy!"

52. Lakeside Ruins - Restoration of the Ancient Ruins
Eldeel: "Mask of the Sun, trapped within the bowels of the Earth, heed my
call and appear unto me!"

53. Lakeside Ruins - Guruda, You Bastard!
Eldeel: "Haah, haah... I've waited for this moment. My prayers have finally
been answered."
Leeza: "Eldeel!"
Eldeel: "For the sake of the restored Mask of the Sun and ancient city, I
offer up this sacrifice. Heheheh.... Leeza, please cooperate. Your
blood is needed!"

[Guruda stabs Eldeel with his sword.]
Eldeel: "G-Guruda.... y-... you bastard...!"
Guruda: "Well done, Eldeel! You've served your purpose, so it's time to die.
Did you ever even bother to think why we served you so willingly in
the first place? The Clan of Darkness has only one purpose: to use
the Mask of the Sun to resurrect our Clan ruler, Lord Arem. We thank
you from the bottom of our hearts for your unwitting assistance.
Heheheh...! Adol! That sword you used to have is of outstanding
quality. Hahaha.... You can just sit and watch as this whole land
burns before the might of Lord Arem!"

53. Lakeside Ruins - The Seal Has Finally Been Broken...
Eldeel: "Leeza... I have no right to ask this, but ...please forgive me. I
was... s-so wrong..."
Leeza: "Eldeel, please don't die! Eldeel!!"

[The Five Disciples Appear.]
Miyu: "The seal we guarded for 700 years has, at last, been broken..."
Slano: "We could condemn the Winged One for his actions, but it would solve
nothing. Our only option, now that Arem is being resurrected, is to
banish the Mask of the Sun forever to oblivion."
Rady: "But in order to do that, you must have the seventh magic. Only one
magic can oppose the Mask of the Sun, and that is El Doran. It is
the ultimate magic, created by the Mask of the Sun itself..."
Talim: "Adol, go to the ancient city. There, you must put a stop to this
catastrophe."
Torie: "Now, let us go, Eldeel, to that peaceful place where your people
await you. You need never be alone again..."

[The Five Disciples vanish along with Eldeel]
Leeza: "He was alone his whole life. Eventually, I could no longer touch
his heart. Until the end.... Adol, let's go back to Laparo village.
Please, take me home."

54. Bronze District - Dogi Arrives
Dogi: "Adol! You're all right? I don't really get it, but this is the
work of the Clan of Darkness, right? The demons are multiplying like
mad, so we'd better keep quiet. I'll come with you. Let's get
moving!"

55. Bronze District - Leo Arrives
Dogi: "It looks like this gate is the only way inside. But how do we get
it open? Aaahh, what a pain! I'll just bust my way through!
Eeyaaaaahh!!"

[The gate explodes suddenly.]
Dogi: "Waaagh! Th-that was close. Who the hell did that!?"
Leo: "Heheheh... sorry about that. That was just so we could get into
this city. The ancient treasures will be mine.... err, I mean, the
Romn Empire's. Unless you have a death wish, I suggest you stand
aside! Men, charge!"
[Leo moves past Adol and Dogi]
Leo: "Get out of the way!!"

56. Bronze District - Leo's Last Moments
Leo: "Ohh, is this it? Is this the ancient treasure!? Wh-what the!?
There's nothing in here. Hm? W-what the hell!?"

[Leo is struck by a blast of energy from the statue's eyes.]
Leo: "Aaaaargh!!"

[General Leo is knocked against the wall.]
Leo: "There was... never any treasure.... Why... was I, haah.... only
chasing ...wealth? .... Is this my punishment...?"

57. Silver Fortress - Dogi is wounded
Dogi: "Damn, it's a dead end. Adol, leave this to me. Those Romns
stopped me before, but this time I'll break through myself.
Eeyaaaaahh!"

[Dogi breaks down the wall]
Dogi: "Hahaha! Can't keep Dogi confined so easily. C'mon, Adol. Let's
hurry!"

[A piece of the wall falls from above.]
Dogi: "Ah, look out!!"

[Dogi pushes Adol out of the way and gets hurt.]
Dogi: "Bah, look what I've done... that was clumsy of me. Heheh, don't
worry about me. This is barely a scratch... whoa! Aahh, damn it. I
can't fight with you like this. Adol, can you call that dove of
Karna's? I'll send a letter asking for help."

[After Adol uses the Wind Flute, Ruce flies in]
Dogi: "Ah, here we go. There you go... good bird. Please take this
message straight to Karna. I'll be all right. Get a move on!"

58. Lefance's Tomb - Lefance 2
Lefance: "I can hear Arem's pulse.... The Mask of the Sun is enshrined in the
deepest depths of the Temple of the Sun. But to enter the Temple,
you must break the barriers in the two adjoining towers. They are
strong, in order to protect the Speaking Stone. Swordsman, this
magic was meant to be eternal. But now that Arem is awakening, the
seal will soon be destroyed. Gather all of the Cleria equipment and
return to me. At that time, the power of El Doran, the seventh
magic, will be granted unto you! Now, go! Find Guruda, and recover
the Cleria Sword!"

59. Lunes Tower - Guruda
Guruda: "I figured you'd come here! You were strong enough to take out Gadis
and Bami, and I respect that. Perhaps it's true that Lord Arem's
hatred has led us to this point. But when the era of darkness comes,
it will all be worth it! Now, come at me, Adol! I'll give your head
to Lord Arem as a gift!"

60. Lunes Tower - Guruda's Last Moments
Guruda: "Eyyyaaaaarrggghh! Lord Areeeem! Now, bring our world to---!!"

61. Lefance's Tomb - Lefance 3
Lefance: "I've been waiting for you, Adol! Now, the seal on the seventh
magic, El Doran, will be broken! Now, the Cleria has been changed
into the strongest magical metal, El Doran. This is the power of the
seventh magic. With that equipment, you can destroy the Mask of the
Sun. Now go, Adol, to the Temple of the Sun where Arem sleeps!"

62. Temple of the Sun - The Five Disciples
Talim: "The final battle is at hand. We Disciples will use the last of our
strength to increase the power of the Mask of the Moon."
Slano: "Wipe away your fear."
Talim: "Arem's strength is beyond imagining."
Miyu: "But you must not hesitate. "
Rady: "Everything depends on you."
Torie: "All that we are, we entrust to you now!"

63. Temple of the Sun - Arem Appears
Arem: "Uuuuuugh... I am reborn, from the realm of chaos. Through all the
time that has passed, my hatred has raged on! All living things on
this earth will be burned by the flames of Hell!"

64. Temple of the Sun - Arem Gathers his Subjects
Arem: "How can a human possess such strength...? But it is not yet over.
If I am to be banished, I will drag you down into Hell with me!
Wandering souls of my clan! Gather unto me!!"

65. Collapse of the Ancient Ruins - Farewell, Lefance
Arem: "Must I... fall before... the light again..., aaaaarrrrrrgghh!!"

[The ground collapses and Adol falls.]
Lefance: "All has come to an end. The great power has been restored to its
proper place. Our ancient capital has vanished. With our mission
accomplished, so too will our spirits..."

66. Ending - A New Beginning
Karna: "Oh, Adol! You're all right!!"
Dogi: "Aaaah, just when the whole thing finally started floating, it's
gone.."
Leeza: "So everything's over now. ...No, that's not true. Now we have a
new beginning, free from the curse of the past..."
Dogi: "That's right. I don't think I'd ever be able to sleep again if
that thing were always floating over our heads. It's better this
way."
Karna: "Adol, let's get back to the village. I'm sure everyone's worried
about you."

Duren: "I'm going to stick around here and help rebuild. It's just
something I think I should do. Not to bring up the past, but I
think it comes from being part of the Clan of Darkness myself.
Since the old times, you see, the Clan has always been hated, and
never had a land to call home. While they went about everything
the wrong way, I think that I understand them."
Flair: "Adol, I've decided until Bill here is grown up and ready to handle
the clinic on his own, I'm going to stay here for awhile."
Tim: "Mister, you gotta come play with me again sometime! Huh? You don't
look too happy about that. That's not very heroic of you! Just
kidding!!"
Woman: "Do you remember me? We met in Venus village. Look at my son...
The emblem of the sage is gone from his forehead, and he's a normal
baby again. Now we can live as a normal mother and son. "
Karna: "I honestly can't thank you enough.... All I can do is try to live
life to the fullest, on behalf of everyone who was sacrificed."
Leeza: "Please come to visit Selceta again someday. I think I'll finally be
able to greet you with a smile then. Please, take care. I'll never
forget you."

[Adol & Dogi gaze at the sunset from aboard a ship.]
Dogi: "We should make sight of land soon. My homeland, Felgana, is off in
that direction..."

67. Ending - Winter Night
Mother: "Well, I think we'll stop there for today."
Girl: "I wanna hear more!"
Boy: "Yeah, what's the next story?"
Mother: "I'll read more next time. There are still many more adventures."
Girl: "Read 'em noooow!"
Mother: "I'm sorry, children. But I really must prepare dinner..."
Children: "Awww, c'mooon, pleeeease!!"

THE END

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III. TRANSLATION NOTES

Let me just say that Japanese honorifics have absolutely no place in an English
translation, particularly when the subject matter is a fictionalized medieval
Europe. The best kind of translation is one that does not sound like it's been
translated. Overly literal stuff sounds awful, and winds up like a bad fansub,
or even worse. If you want a solid example of why literal translations are
bad, go play Zone of the Enders: The 2nd Runner for PS2. Decent story, but the
script is almost unbearable. It's easily the worst localization job I've seen
since Final Fantasy IV/II for the SNES.

Some people (myself included) are ferociously opposed to Working Designs' style
of translation, where one plays fast-and-loose with the original speech and
inserts pop-culture references that have no business being included. Yes, that
is awful. However, the opposite extreme is to conserve as much of the original
Japanese feel/style/structure as possible. The problem there is, that doesn't
work in English. It sounds artificial, because people do not talk like that.
You have to find the happy medium. Too much of the meaning in Japanese speech
is inferred through context. Companies refer to the translating process as
"localization" for a very good reason.

I do not translate Tim's use of "oniichan" to "big brother," because that's not
what it means in the context. An English-speaking child in the same situation
would not call a random older male "big brother." Similarly, while Guruda's
use of "Eldeel-sama" translates to "Master Eldeel," Leeza's use of the same
does not. There are no hard-and-fast rules for Japanese translations. Most of
the language's meaning is derived through context, and if one ignores that
fact, then the result tends to sound like something that Babelfish chewed up
and spat out. 'nuff said.

Feel free to email comments or questions to me at deucemugen[at]hotmail.com. I
may make some revisions the next time I play through the game in order to make
sure everything jibes properly.

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IV. CREDITS

- SUGIMO: For creating an awesome Japanese resource for Ys fans, in the form of
the webpage, "Falcom Daisuki!" I used the Ys IV speech transcript from there
as the basis format for this guide. It can be found here:
http://homepage1.nifty.com/sugimo/falcom/ys/yspce.htm

- Chris Cruz: For being an all-around good friend and helping with a couple of
problem lines in the ending.

- Jim Breen: For providing me with WWWJDIC, the best online Kanji dictionary to
be had anywhere.
http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/wwwjdic.html

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V. LEGAL STUFF

a. Ys and all associated characters are the sole legal property and copyright
of Falcom. This document makes no claims to Falcom's ownership or rights.
b. The text of this document is Copyright 2004 Jeff Nussbaum.
c. This document may not be modified in any way, nor may it be reproduced, in
whole or in part, in any for-profit publication.
d. This may not be hosted on any website other than www.gamefaqs.com.
It is also included, with the author's permission, in NightWolve's "Ys IV:
The Dawn of Ys" translation patch, located at:
https://www.ysutopia.net/projects/ys4/

pixeljunkie · 03/30/2006, 03:48 PM

awesome! thanks!

Daedalus · 03/30/2006, 05:31 PM

It took me soo damn long to get this damn patch to work right CDRwin just wouldnt work right for me, finally with mero it came out flawless. I got it right abotu two weeks ago but I refuse to play it. I just got Ys 3 and I am stuck on Darm in ys book 2.

Am I an idiot for wanting to play throguh them all in order? Do they follow any kind of linear story or are they all different. Just wondering caseu book 1 and 2 is my fav rpg ever.

pixeljunkie · 03/30/2006, 05:43 PM

Quote from: "Daedalus"It took me soo damn long to get this damn patch to work right CDRwin just wouldnt work right for me, finally with mero it came out flawless. I got it right abotu two weeks ago but I refuse to play it. I just got Ys 3 and I am stuck on Darm in ys book 2.

Am I an idiot for wanting to play throguh them all in order? Do they follow any kind of linear story or are they all different. Just wondering caseu book 1 and 2 is my fav rpg ever.

you could totally skip 3 in my opinion. 4 picks up where 2 leaves off anyway. 3 is kind of a side story almost, giving Adol something to do for a couple years. They are all good though....but if you are coming off of 1 and 2 and want the awesome level to continue up....move onto 4. 3 disappointed me when it came out. I appreciate it though. Oath In Felghana makes it right if you ever get a chance to play that.

Daedalus · 03/30/2006, 06:31 PM

I "tested" the english patch so i played it for about 5 mins...the majority of the beginning is all speech ( and in japanese of course ) is it playable with only english text, or are you half lost?

OldRover · 03/30/2006, 06:56 PM

Ys III sucks. There's no way around it. It sucks. Sorry.

TurboXray · 03/30/2006, 08:10 PM

Wow, I can't say I agree. I bought it the day it came out, and loved every minute of it. Considering SuperCD or Duo wasn't out at the time(in the US) and being that there was little content for the CDROM2 system, Ys III was a much welcomed addition to the TG16 CD library. I found it much more enjoyable than Final Zone 2 or Last Alert.

I played and beat the new Ys III remake for PC and its totally awesome. I've also beat Ys VI for PS2 - you can unlock the original japanese opening and dialog for the game (I think the music as well - can't remember).

Ys IV for SCD is my favorite though, of the series. Playing it again, but in english was dream come true - that's one dream scratched off my list

Keranu · 03/30/2006, 09:52 PM

Dawn of Ys is easily my second favorite in the series, right after I & II (okay, so that kind of makes it my third favorite in the series

) .

By the way, Ys III is awesome.

D-Lite · 03/31/2006, 01:51 AM

Someone sent me the patched Ys IV but it doesn't work.

I wish someone would provide me the opportunity to get a working one ...............

Seldane · 03/31/2006, 04:21 AM

Ys IV The Dawn of Ys isn't part of the story at all. It is not an "official" chapter of the series. If you want continuation, play the games in this order: Ys 1, 2, 4 (for SFC), 3/F, 5 and 6.

Ys The Oath in Felghana (F) is a remake of Ys III and it is very good -- but whatever you do -- DON'T skip YsIII. Nodtveidt is wrong, it doesn't suck. Well, the PCE version sucks, but the Mega Drive and PS2 versions are awesome.

Keranu · 03/31/2006, 06:26 PM

Ys III for PCE is awesome, I find it better than the Genesis/Megadrive and SNES versions overall (my site goes better into detail, but of course that's not up

) . The only thing that is dissapointing in the PCE version is the extremely choppy parallax scrolling, but everything else is a step above the other console versions at the time, so I find it better all around. Not saying the Genesis/MD and SNES versions are bad, they are also great, just not quite as good (especially the SNES version). By the way, Adol having brown hair in the Genesis/MD version was bogus

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esteban · 03/31/2006, 07:53 PM

Quote from: "Keranu"Ys III for PCE is awesome, I find it better than the Genesis/Megadrive and SNES versions overall (my site goes better into detail, but of course that's not up ) . The only thing that is dissapointing in the PCE version is the extremely choppy parallax scrolling, but everything else is a step above the other console versions at the time, so I find it better all around. Not saying the Genesis/MD and SNES versions are bad, they are also great, just not quite as good (especially the SNES version). By the way, Adol having brown hair in the Genesis/MD version was bogus .

Hey, I actually remember reading this comparision on your site! That must have been a long time ago.

Good god the parallax choppy scrolling of the background in TG-CD Ys III -- it would have been better just to have a few sprite clouds over a static background. It was so painful to see that.

Otherwise, I like all the Ys III console versions... but of course the TG-CD one is my fave

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I never realized that Adol had brown hair! Did he really have brown hair, or do televisions make it look brown? That's too funny...

TurboXray · 03/31/2006, 08:05 PM

Check out the Ys animes - on the last disc you'll see a trailer for another Ys anime, but with characters from the PC-Engine version

edit: I mean from PCE Ys IV.

Anyway, I beat the Ys III for snes 2 times. I haven't played the genesis version much, but I'll have to go back and check it out. Both the MD/SNES version might have better scrolls, but the lack of awesome music scores them below the PCE version - anyday. The somewhat choppy scrolls were better then no scrolls in my opinion - atleast they were better than the Ninja Gaiden scrolls

Keranu · 03/31/2006, 08:43 PM

There was one small part in the TGCD version of Ys III where the scrolling was excellent, but there might not've been any parallax in that scene so that's why. I believe it was in the back parts of the cave when you have to go back there again.

Seldane · 04/01/2006, 06:18 AM

Hmmm.... what did I say in another thread? Biased? Yeah -- that's gotta be it.

motdelbuort · 04/01/2006, 03:38 PM

Now I'm really confused about which system I should play Ys 3 on. I've been holding out to get the TGCD version because I figured the music and cutscenes would be much better. But there are significant differences in the actual game between systems? Is the Mega Drive version actually better than the Super Nintendo version?

_Paul · 04/01/2006, 04:35 PM

Quote from: "Seldane"Hmmm.... what did I say in another thread? Biased? Yeah -- that's gotta be it.

Just because people have a different opinion to yours does not make them biased.

For a lot of people, the music alone is enough to put the PCE version above all others, even with the crappy scrolling.

Seldane · 04/01/2006, 04:37 PM

Quote from: "motdelbuort"Now I'm really confused about which system I should play Ys 3 on. I've been holding out to get the TGCD version because I figured the music and cutscenes would be much better. But there are significant differences in the actual game between systems? Is the Mega Drive version actually better than the Super Nintendo version?

The Mega Drive version is much better than the SNES version. It is very close to the (ultimate) X68000 version.

The PS2 version rocks too.

_Paul · 04/01/2006, 04:44 PM

How does the difficult compare? I found the SFC version much easier than the PCE version, with the exception of the final boss which is harder. Ive not played through the MD version to make a fair comparison.

Seldane · 04/01/2006, 04:45 PM

But I actually believe most people here ARE biased towards the PCE version (even though they won't admit it) because they're PCE fans/grew up with the game. I'm not a big fan of any particular system, and I like every version of Ys III.

TurboXray · 04/01/2006, 07:13 PM

I've played the genesis version last night and can say the snes version is better IMO of the two. The genesis color is lacking in a few areas - the town is especially noticable, but I need to play it through to the end. But thats not saying much because without the awesome sound track, the game is just mediocore. Oh and don't forget the cinemas too. Matter of fact, if you think the old versions of Ys III games are great, it's probably because your biased towards the Ys series - I know I am

esteban · 04/01/2006, 09:18 PM

Despite the naysayers, Ys III TG-CD rocks!

Quote from: "Seldane"
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Quote from: "Seldane"Hmmm.... what did I say in another thread? Biased? Yeah -- that's gotta be it.

Just because people have a different opinion to yours does not make them biased.

For a lot of people, the music alone is enough to put the PCE version above all others, even with the crappy scrolling.

Hehe, don't take me so seriously. Only stevek666 gets it.

QuoteThe MSX2 version is really hard!

See, I've only played the console versions of games... I've never had a chance to play the versions that appeared on the various Japanese computer platforms. One of these days (hahahhaha... over the next 5-6 years, if I'm lucky), I am going to play them.

Keranu · 04/01/2006, 11:38 PM

Quote from: "Seldane"But I actually believe most people here ARE biased towards the PCE version (even though they won't admit it) because they're PCE fans/grew up with the game. I'm not a big fan of any particular system, and I like every version of Ys III.

How do we know that you aren't just BIASED towards the Megadrive version, the console you more than likely grew up with out of the three?

What you said about people here can be applied to you too only opposite

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Anyways, I never grew up with a TG16 and I didn't get into the system until all the way in 2002 and I had a Genesis back in the 16-bit generation, which I loved then and still do. I simply prefer the TGCD version of Ys III because overall it's better in all aspects:

Graphics - TGCD wins in the graphics department because the ingame details look nicer than both the Genesis and SNES versions and so does the actual color depth. The SNES version looked a little too "blurry" to me and the Genesis version looked a little too "dirty", (the map is probably the best example) though some parts looked pretty clean, like the opening part of the cave. Also to add to the graphics department, the TGCD version had way better cinematics than both versions ;) . Lets also not forget that the "Continue" screen in the TGCD version had a nice little piece of artwork in it of the three main characters. The only bad graphical part of the TGCD version was the parallax scrolling, which was down right terrible!

Sound - TGCD obviously due to the brilliantly arranged soundtrack by Ryo Yonemitsu. The Genesis verison had pretty good music too, and I don't even like the Genesis' sound chip for the most part too. I would have to play the SNES version again to remember, but I just remember it having the worst sound of the bunch.

Gameplay - The actual controls between the TGCD and Genesis version are identicle, but it's a little different in the SNES version since you had to perform slash in a different way (I think you had to hold down the attack button instead of just pressing down). The Genesis version however does offer a little more difficulty, whilst the SNES version is the easiest because you can level up so fast.

So out of the three main categories I judged the game in (Graphics, Sound, Gameplay), I gave the advantage of the TGCD version for a bold two of the categories and a tie for the gameplay. 2 and 1/2 out of 3 points makes the TGCD version a winner if you ask me, I'm sorry

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I hope to bring my site back so you all could see the actual article I wrote, I had descriptive paragraphs and nice screenshtos! In fact I just took screenshots of both the Genesis and Duo versions of Wonderboy 5/Dynastic Hero and I might have to make write an article for that later, which is even more fun because of how close they are.

Seldane · 04/02/2006, 06:16 AM

Hey hey! Editing my post, are we? Trying to silence me, huh?

Anyway, I didn't grow up with a Mega Drive. Nor any particular version of Ys III.

The first version of Ys III I played was the SNES version. I loved it. A few months later I got the Mega Drive version and I loved it even more. Another few months later I played the PCE version at a friend's place. I didn't like it much at all.

I just got up, I can't think of anything else to say.

OldRover · 04/02/2006, 02:37 PM

I don't like any version of Ys III. The game itself just bores the hell out of me, and it just doesn't "feel" like Ys at all.

esteban · 04/02/2006, 03:00 PM

Quote from: OldRoverI don't like any version of Ys III. The game itself just bores the hell out of me, and it just doesn't "feel" like Ys at all.

Hey, aren't you the one who started this whole sordid Ys III debacle a few posts ago?

Seldane · 04/02/2006, 03:23 PM

I think Ys III feels like Ys more than ANY other Ys game. I'm serious!!

I have no idea why though.

Keranu · 04/02/2006, 10:39 PM

Shit, Seldane sorry about the post edit! Last night when I was typing my post, I accidently hit the "Edit Post" button by your name. I was trying to find your original post but I can't find it anywhere, so I guess it got deleted

. Maybe there is a way I can add it again, do you remember what your original post said? Sorry again!

I love Ys III, mainly because I love platform RPGs and Ys. I do think Ys III was very different from the original Ys I and Ys II though, and I'm not just saying that because of the 180 degree turn in the gameplay, but it's story just didn't feel nearly the same as I & II, which was an amazing epic. I still love Ys III though

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pixeljunkie · 04/03/2006, 12:06 PM

I think Ys 3 on the Turbo kinda' blew. Its still great though if for nothing other than the soundtrack and cut-scenes.

That said, Oath in Felghana is awesome! Definitely recommended for Ys fans.

Keranu · 04/05/2006, 01:13 AM

Ehem, http://www.lazerdorks.org/stunningarticles/ysiiiduel/index.html

.

NightWolve · 04/09/2006, 01:49 AM

Quote from: DaedalusIt took me soo damn long to get this damn patch to work right CDRwin just wouldnt work right for me, finally with mero it came out flawless. I got it right abotu two weeks ago but I refuse to play it. I just got Ys 3 and I am stuck on Darm in ys book 2.

Quote from: D-LiteSomeone sent me the patched Ys IV but it doesn't work.

I wish someone would provide me the opportunity to get a working one ...............

You and anybody else that's ever had difficulty ripping a PC-Engine/TG-16 CD will have a nifty tool at your disposal very soon. I'm working on a program tentatively called "TurboRip" and I'm about to release version 1.00 very soon. It will probably be my last gift to the PCE community, although if it becomes popular enough, I might return to it someday to make a GUI version (this will be commandline). For a long description, I made a post about it here if anyone wants to take a look. Basically, TurboRip will rip all PC-Engine/TG-16 CD discs perfectly to an ISO/WAV/CUE image format which among other things will allow easy patching in the case of Xak III or Ys IV. I have options to prepare the image for use on Sony's PSP even as one of its many extra pluses! So with an ISO/WAV/CUE image, you can then burn that using whatever burning software works best with your system, whether it's Alcohol 120%, Ahead Nero, CDRWIN, Fireburner, or CloneCD, etc. All of those support the CUE format well enough.

Anyway, I'll make a post on this forum to let you guys know when it's ready. Keep on the lookout for that announcement which should be imminent. I wanna get as many people testing it with original PC-Engine discs to see how my CD-ROM devices it supports. You can inform me if you have trouble and it might be possible to see about fixing some issue. I have Squaresoft74 and Dave Shadoff testing it for me as we speak, and I've fixed quite a few issues already. Among some of the features are being able to detect and read from an external CD-ROM device connected to your system via Firewire or USB.

Here're two screenshots of it in action using an original disc of Cosmic Fantasy 2:

It will account for PREGAPs when it comes to track type transitions, which is what causes trouble with such Mixed-Mode discs if you try to dump them on a track by track basis. One of the main reasons I wanted to create such a program was because if the dubs for Ys IV were ever finished, you would need the image in ISO/WAV/CUE form, and you would just need to replace the Japanese wave files with the English ones I would provide. It's easy enough to dump an image to BIN/CUE, but such a format is not suitable for patching the waves within it. It also results in varying sizes whereas in this case, every data track is correctly dumped to the same size on EVERYONE's PC, so there wouldn't be any inconsistencies say if you wanna patch a particular data track.

Anyway, that's the gist of it. I talked about it more here as I mentioned, if you wanna learn more details about it. It works on one of Squaresoft's DVD-RW devices, but not the other, so I've delayed releasing it in the hopes I can make it more compatible. Plus I have to finish the ReadMe. Your drive basically must be modern (later than 1996 preferably), and support the MMC-1 standard. Its compatibility with CD/DVD readers will be as good if not better than David Michel's MagicEngine. It will also extract its own ASPI layer and use that by default, but you can provide a parameter to force it to load the usual WNAPSI32.dll provided by Adaptec or Nero, if your system operates better with that layer. Also, the MP3 encoding is done using the latest copy of the LAME MP3 encoder if you use an option that requests MP3 audio extraction.

Quote from: KeranuEhem, http://www.lazerdorks.org/stunningarticles/ysiiiduel/index.html .

Yeah, I agree with that. Turbo CD wins. I played the SNES version and I would've expected much better graphics for a SNES cart compared to Turbo CD, but they're almost the same. And so then when you take the Turbo CD's cinemas, awesome soundtracks, etc. into account, it's enough to place it above the other ports in my book. Oh, yeah, good job on being an Ys nerd. You actually went and wrote a review comparing them side by side. ;) Even I couldn't do that...

Ninja Spirit · 04/09/2006, 02:23 AM

Grrr I want CD image...now!

Keranu · 04/09/2006, 02:54 AM

Sorry about that nasty post edit, Nightwolve! All fixed now, thank god!!

Quote from: "Nightwolve"Yeah, I agree with that. Turbo CD wins. I played the SNES version and I would've expected much better graphics for a SNES cart compared to Turbo CD, but they're almost the same. And so then when you take the Turbo CD's cinemas, awesome soundtracks, etc. into account, it's enough to place it above the other ports in my book. Oh, yeah, good job on being on Ys nerd. You actually went and wrote a review comparing them side by side. ;) Even I couldn't do that...

Haha, thanks a lot

OldRover · 04/09/2006, 06:36 AM

Nightwolve, that would be great. pcerip.exe doesn't work on my cdrom so to have one that's a bit more flexible would be very nice.

Daedalus · 04/09/2006, 07:08 AM

I have a ripped iso of the english patched Ys IV ( working of course ) and no place to host it....if anone wants to host it for me I'll be glad to share

NightWolve · 04/09/2006, 12:09 PM

Quote from: OldRoverNightwolve, that would be great. pcerip.exe doesn't work on my cdrom so to have one that's a bit more flexible would be very nice.

Yeah, in fact, pcerip was one of my inspirations for this. As was cddissect, but they all fall short. pcerip only does data tracks.... Well, thanks a bunch, but if you know how to rip data, you know how to rip audio, so why not have had that too? Cddissect was closer to what I wanted, but yet another obstacle to getting wave output! It was built for a specific purpose to create a ISO/MP3/CUE file set only for use for the HUGO-X emulator on an XBOX. It did not have an option to extract the wave directly. It only outputs MP3s... I was thinking of asking the author for his source code, but I just decided not to and when I got the motivation again to work on this, I did the research and probably wouldn't have made as good a tool had someone else's source code been handed to me. Not that it would've impeded me, but it could've sent me in another direction rather than the one where I did most of the research for MMC/SCSI/ASPI myself, so now I know more of what's going on with regards to communicating with CD/DVD devices having to stumble through it.

The only good thing that'll be left of pcerip when this is released is its name which I kind of wanted. ;) I was thinking of going with "PowerRip" or something, but I wanted some reference to the game system/platform in the name, so it was either go with "turborip," "tg16rip," or even "necrip." Heh.

Anyway, I gave Keranu a copy to test for me, and I spent some 6 hours with Squaresoft74 fixing some final bugs. It works for him entirely now on all drives, so I'm confident in making the first public release after some touch ups and a ReadMe. It won't be long now.

akamichi · 04/09/2006, 12:21 PM

Quote from: "NightWolve"You and anybody else that's ever had difficulty ripping a PC-Engine/TG-16 CD will have a nifty tool at your disposal very soon. I'm working on a program tentatively called "TurboRip" and I'm about to release version 1.00 very soon.

Sounds cool NightWolve. I tried to do the same thing close to a year ago but I couldn't get consistent results. Sounds like you solved that issue. I did get it working enough to be able to use your Xak III and YsIV patches though.

I'm definitely looking forward to trying your prog!

NightWolve · 04/09/2006, 01:30 PM

Quote from: "akamichi"
Quote from: "NightWolve"You and anybody else that's ever had difficulty ripping a PC-Engine/TG-16 CD will have a nifty tool at your disposal very soon. I'm working on a program tentatively called "TurboRip" and I'm about to release version 1.00 very soon.
Sounds cool NightWolve. I tried to do the same thing close to a year ago but I couldn't get consistent results. Sounds like you solved that issue. I did get it working enough to be able to use your Xak III and YsIV patches though.

I'm definitely looking forward to trying your prog!

Ah, I remember reading your posts where you mentioned this. I'd be glad to send you the candidate release copy right now if you pm me your email address or update your profile with it. I was looking for it in your profile, but it's not there.

akamichi · 04/09/2006, 08:40 PM

Quote from: "NightWolve"Ah, I remember reading your posts where you mentioned this. I'd be glad to send you the candidate release copy right now if you pm me your email address or update your profile with it. I was looking for it in your profile, but it's not there.

Cool. I was just about to update my profile then I noticed you had already sent me a PM.

I've got about 4 different drives I can try it out on. I'll let you know how it goes.
Thanks!

pixeljunkie · 04/10/2006, 10:06 AM

awesome news nightwolve, this thread ended up being awesome!

Thanks again for your work. I finished Ys 4 saturday night...was sad it was over. Best time I've had on a game in a long time.

NightWolve · 04/20/2006, 08:44 AM

Quote from: OldRoverNightwolve, that would be great. pcerip.exe doesn't work on my cdrom so to have one that's a bit more flexible would be very nice.

I've gone public with it if you haven't yet noticed. Check this thread for details. Lemme know if it works on the CDROM you're referring to where pcerip does not.