Brand new sealed Cosmic Fantasy 2s everywhere

[GUTS]

I just bought one on ebay for $45 right?  So now I look and the same seller has another one up, plus ANOTHER seller has one up too.  What the hell?  Did somebody find a box of these under a desk at Working Designs old office or something?

[Keranu]

Whoa, better get in on the action, eh?

[MotherGunner]

yeah post that link I need one

[lkermel]

That's interesting.
I read an article a couple of month ago about a company that bought the rights to re-print titles for the PS2, like Rez. They did and made them available. However, in that same article they were also talking about potential Turbo titles that may be printed by the same company, and Cosmic Fantasy was in the list. Maybe they finally did it...

[lkermel]

Just found it !

GAMEQUESTDIRECT

They definitively mention Cosmic Fantasy 2:

What's next in 2006 for the publisher/retailer? Recently they purchased the now defunct Working Designs' remaining inventory. Copies of Growlanser: Generations Deluxe Edition, and Silhouette Mirage can be picked up. What's really surprising is a number of extremely rare titles like Sega Ages for the Saturn, Exile, and Cosmic Fantasy 2 for Turbo Graphix 16. They're currently in talks with Square-Enix, Atari and Konami for more reprints. It's possible that reprints of Valkyrie Profile, Ikaruga and Suikoden II may pop up eventually. Collectors take note, Game Quest Direct said that they would try to reprint

[GUTS]

Damn, it sucks that Working Designs didn't have any Exile IIs or Parasol Stars still, I would love to have sealed copies of those.

I'm THIS close to ordering an Exile also, there's just something so cool about sealed Turbo Duo games at reasonable prices.

[guyjin]

makes me mad when people don't spell turbografx right  

[esteban]

I never thought I'd see the day that TG-16 games were re-printed. AWESOME!

Damn, it sucks that Working Designs didn't have any Exile IIs or Parasol Stars still, I would love to have sealed copies of those.

I'm THIS close to ordering an Exile also, there's just something so cool about sealed Turbo Duo games at reasonable prices.

I hear ya! My copy of Vasteel and CF2 are really ragged.

[VestCunt]

interesting.  On the WD site i remember all of thier TG games except for CF2 and Exile said "out of stock" or "out of print" but CF2 and Exile had prices by them.  i was always confused because there was never an icon to click on and buy games or any kind of shopping cart system on their site so i figured they didn't really have any stock to sell.  looks like they did after all.

[akamichi]

well, I ordered a copy of CF2 and Exile from GameQuestDirect.   Should take about a week or so to get them.  Has anyone else ordered from them before?

Can't wait to get them.  I've had Exile 2 for the longest time and haven't even played Exile yet.

[esteban]

well, I ordered a copy of CF2 and Exile from GameQuestDirect.   Should take about a week or so to get them.  Has anyone else ordered from them before?

Can't wait to get them.  I've had Exile 2 for the longest time and haven't even played Exile yet.

Exile is a great game. You'll most likely end up saying to yourself, "It's over? Noooo, this game is too short! I want more!"

[GUTS]

Man Emerald Rocker was telling me about all this stuff they changed in the US version of Exile, like in the Japanese one Sadler blatantly kills christians, muslims, buddists, and some other religion's god.  He said it was basically extremely offensive to all religions, but WD had to change the names of all the religions for the US version so they wouldn't offend anyone.  What a kickass game, I bet I missed some of the references to religions back when I beat it years ago, I REALLY need to get another copy of it now and see if I can spot all the stuff they changed.

[Keranu]

Can someone confirm if that's true? If so, that's pretty sweet .

[ParanoiaDragon]

Well, in the US version, you can tell he's killing Knights of Christendom, which would be the Templar Knights(which really existed.....& supposedly still exist).  I thought it was pretty much a revolt against the crusades, atleast, that was my impression.  I have the Japanese version, & I haven't noticed anything different about it that I can think of right now.  I think the last area in the game, is based off of grease & Socrates, but I could be wrong.  There's that one area, where people pretty much worship sex & alchohol right before the library place.

Oh yeah, & that'd be great, though I doubt it'd happen, if they got the right to publish World Heroes, & King of the Monsters 2 for Turbo.  I'd eat that up in a heartbeat!

[esteban]

To follow-up on Paranoia's post: Bakkas (or something like that, my memory is failing me) is the level that was based on Bacchus / Bacchanalia. I think nodtveidt provided some sreenshots in my old thread (see link below) in which the women in the Japanese version are nekkid... but the sprites are so tiny ...

Man Emerald Rocker was telling me about all this stuff they changed in the US version of Exile, like in the Japanese one Sadler blatantly kills christians, muslims, buddists, and some other religion's god.  He said it was basically extremely offensive to all religions, but WD had to change the names of all the religions for the US version so they wouldn't offend anyone.  What a kickass game, I bet I missed some of the references to religions back when I beat it years ago, I REALLY need to get another copy of it now and see if I can spot all the stuff they changed.

You've got to be kidding me, right? I had no idea, but I took a wild guess in my old thread (about censoring / sanitizing North American Turbo games) that Exile might deal with religion in a manner that might offend folks. I based that on the simple fact that Exile mentions the (infamous) Templar Knights in the intro cinema (or early in the game).

CALLING ZIG: "Hey, how come you didn't share the good stuff with me? I think you elaborated on some other games I was curious about... but nothing on Exile!"

Of course, I always wonder if Emerald pulls pranks on folks and spreads misinformation...

Perhaps the original computer Exile games had all of this good stuff... but it was sanitized for the console?

[pixeljunkie]

i picked both of these up new from WD a few months before they announced the closing for like $30 a pop new.

[Bt Garner]

If some company daoes have the rights and is re-pressing (pun
not intended) some Duo CDs, then I would like to know where they
are having them made.

For MB, I spent 5 months working with a company trying to find some
place that could handle the PCE CD Format, and was disappointed by
all the answers that I received.

-bt

[GUTS]

If Game Quest Direct had the ability to re-press old Duo games they would have done Dungeon Explorer II and Exile II since those are the big money WD games, these Exiles and Cosmic Fantasy 2s are just old WD stock.

[pixeljunkie]

huh?

anyway, these are all just NOS from WD's warehouse.

[VestCunt]

DE2 was not a Working Designs game.
they made
Parasol Stars
Cadash
Exile 1 + 2
Cosmic Fantasy 2
and Vasteel.

it would be cool if GQD made a Parasol Stars/Cadash CD.

BT, did you ever try tracking down that Care4data company that made the Sapphire bootlegs to see where those discs were made?

[Keranu]

They should've pressed Vasteel instead of Exile.

[Seldane]

They should've pressed Vasteel instead of Exile.

Um, they never pressed Exile. It was from WD's old stock. You could order the game on their website before they closed down.

[Keranu]

Well in that case, they should've looked harder for any extra copies of Vasteel .

[GUTS]

Oh yeah my bad, I always think of Dungeon Explorer II as a WD game since they did the voices.

[Bt Garner]

vestcunt says:
BT, did you ever try tracking down that Care4data company that made the Sapphire bootlegs to see where those discs were made?

Not directly.  Here is the deal though... The Sapphire boots were made about the same time that Implode was made (2001/2002), between then and 2004, the Glass Mastering software that is used in 99.9% of all CD reproduction facilities was upgraded, and that upgrade prevents the PCE format from being made (it actually converts the disc to a true Yellow Book CD).

So, why not use an older version of the softwares?  Because they are time licensed (at roughly $20K/year).  It was only when I was going through the MB fiasco that I learned that when Implode was pressed, the company I used had to call the Mastering Software folks to get it to work.

The company that I used for MB has contacts in europe and Asia, and after they could not get the proper master made, they spent 3 months searching the world over to find anyone who could, and that turned up nothing.

Does this mean that there will never be another PCE pressed CD again?  Not necessarily, but it does mean that it is unlikely, unless the mastering companies re-add the ability to make intentionally off-spec CDs.

-bt

[akamichi]

You'd think with all the DRM nonsense the music industry is pushing on their "CD"s, the mastering companies would be able to make any kind of off-spec CD they want.

I wonder if there are any Japanese companies that are able to do it...?  Then again, they've probably upgraded all their software/hardware by now too.

[akamichi]

Got my games from GameQuestDirect today!  I'd say the service was pretty quick.  Ordered on the 15th (Sat), got shipping confirmation email on the 18th.  Received everything in very good condition on the 24th.

I wouldn't hesitate to order from them again.  Thumbs up!  Oh yeah, I also got a coupon for $5 off my next order over $50.  Too bad they don't have any other TG16 games.

[Emerald Rocker]

Hey Steve, I'm slow.  The following is all from the PC-Engine CD of Exile:

*** SPOILER ALERT ***











It's not a prank -- Sadler kills Christians, some Hindu gods, physically beats a Vishnu townsperson, blatantly defiles pagan ceremonies, and generally makes a mockery of most religions.  He doesn't actually kill a Buddhist... what happens there is that the Buddhist kills himself to try to save the world, but fails and ends up just dying pointlessly (which is still a slap in Buddhism's face).

At the end, Yuug de Payne reveals himself to be more than a knight.... he's the *Holy Roman Emperor*.  Just imagine:

Sadler and the Holy Roman Emperor sword-fight to the death in THE GARDEN OF EDEN, but... instead of being covered with fruit, the Tree of Wisdom is covered with severed human heads!

It's awesome.

Oh yeah, and Sadler wins.  Because he's a bad-ass with creepy narrow stalker eyes.

[OldRover]

Hrm...that's a little hard to believe, especially concerning the ending...if this "Holy Roman Emperor" was...erm..."holy"...why would he look like something undead? The rest might work though, although I don't remember him beating up a townsperson. I assume the Buddhist would have been Ninkan, eh? Killing Christians would have to be the El-In soldiers (Christians, Klipsins...hrm......), the pagan ceremony would be the ritual of Backos (perfect...Baccos is one of the spellings of an ancient pagan god), although I'm not quite sure about the Hindu gods part...perhaps the Baiyon scenario? Garuda perhaps as well, I seem to remember something about an entity named "Garuda" (not sure on the spelling) in some Hindu stories, perhaps even in some Confuciusism/Shinto lore as well...

I do know that the game's storyline was too sensitive for the US audience, and that's why it was modified. I don't think there was anyone more qualified to localize the game than Working Designs.

[Emerald Rocker]

Well, I think part of the game's point was that the Holy Roman Empire was anything but holy.  The beating up a townsperson part was a skippable conversation scene.  I haven't played the US version, so I don't know how the US scene(s) compare to the JP one.  From what I've heard, most of the changes were names.

Does the US one still have the scene where people are burning at stakes?

[Keranu]

Does the US one still have the scene where people are burning at stakes?

Yes, and that part was awesome .

[esteban]

Hey Steve, I'm slow.  The following is all from the PC-Engine CD of Exile:
....
At the end, Yuug de Payne reveals himself to be more than a knight.... he's the *Holy Roman Emperor*.  Just imagine:

Sadler and the Holy Roman Emperor sword-fight to the death in THE GARDEN OF EDEN, but... instead of being covered with fruit, the Tree of Wisdom is covered with severed human heads!

It's awesome.

Oh yeah, and Sadler wins.  Because he's a bad-ass with creepy narrow stalker eyes.

!!!! Incredibly awesome, thank you!!! I *still* don't know if you're teasing me, but I loved reading everything in your post! This stuff sounds like it's straight out of a Luis Bunuel film (well, Bunuel was preoccupied with satirizing Christianity -- but he would have loved Exile's brutal handling of the other major religions as well, I'm sure).

It's uncanny, I tell you! Exile is the first and only video game that can truly be called Bunuelian.... although Bunuel would have made Sadler a more flawed protagonist...

[BadIdeaSociety]

I have to admit, I really like the idea of companies reprinting existing games legally. I bought two extra copies of Cosmic Fantasy 2 back during the great TurboGraphx 16 clearances of 1994 just to insure the longevity of the game in my collection. I have averaged at least 1 playthrough of the game every three years since getting the game. I would actually be interested in picking another copy up just to extend the life of my TG-16 collection.  Does anyone know what company is sponcering the repressings?

Until I saw Telenet's porn remake of Valis, Valis Cross, I was pulling for a modern remake of Cosmic Fantasy... but now I just hope the game stays in obscurity for fear that the series becomes another interchangable Tokimemoesque game.

[esteban]

I have to admit, I really like the idea of companies reprinting existing games legally. I bought two extra copies of Cosmic Fantasy 2 back during the great TurboGraphx 16 clearances of 1994 just to insure the longevity of the game in my collection. I have averaged at least 1 playthrough of the game every three years since getting the game. I would actually be interested in picking another copy up just to extend the life of my TG-16 collection.  Does anyone know what company is sponcering the repressings?

Until I saw Telenet's porn remake of Valis, Valis Cross, I was pulling for a modern remake of Cosmic Fantasy... but now I just hope the game stays in obscurity for fear that the series becomes another interchangable Tokimemoesque game.

Unfortunately, we're not sure that the company in question (ahhhh, there's a link in one of the prior threads, I'm too lazy to find it) will actually re-press old games... especially since we've recently discovered that CD pressing plants may no longer be able to produce PCE / TG-16 format discs.

As for CF: XXX, I too fear that a new CF installment would sullen the series . May it rest in peace .

[Emerald Rocker]

Sully the Cosmic Fantasy series?!?

Clearly you have not seen the secret nude portraits in Cosmic Fantasy 3, or the Saya "tentacles" nude scene in Cosmic Fantasy 4!

Based on my DEEP PSYCHOLOGICAL ANALYSIS of Ochii's manga, I think he always wanted the Cosmic Fantasy series to be hentai.  Of course, part of the charm is how it always managed to barely avoid crossing the line (except for Cosmic Fantasy 4 chapter 1, which gracelessly cannon-balled itself across the line)

[esteban]

Sully the Cosmic Fantasy series?!?

Clearly you have not seen the secret nude portraits in Cosmic Fantasy 3, or the Saya "tentacles" nude scene in Cosmic Fantasy 4!

Based on my DEEP PSYCHOLOGICAL ANALYSIS of Ochii's manga, I think he always wanted the Cosmic Fantasy series to be hentai.  Of course, part of the charm is how it always managed to barely avoid crossing the line (except for Cosmic Fantasy 4 chapter 1, which gracelessly cannon-balled itself across the line)

No, I haven't seen any of that stuff (I've seen CF 1-3).

My point was much simpler, actually: I have no interest in developers who revive an old series simply to make a quick buck. My fear was that the new CF game would be lame, and thus add little to the CF "legacy" (perhaps even detract from it).

I'm not gloryifying CF 1-4 (far from it), rather, I'm simply revealing how little faith I have in the motivations / efforts behind CF 5: The Director's Cut (due to be released in scorching hot July, 2006!).

Of coulrse, until the game is on the shelves, I should stop speculating and reserve judgement .

[BadIdeaSociety]

I know what you are talking about, but I think there is a measured difference between a few nude/fan service scenes and a game that is built to be a porn vehicle.

Valis Cross is a porno vehicle, Cosmic Fantasy IV Part 1 is a game with some questionable footage in it.

[guyjin]

It's kinda weird though... the art on the CD itself looks like a bad CDR applique. If it weren't sealed, I'd wonder if it really was...

I'd be playing it right now, except most of my videogame stuff is in storage  

[adolobe]

Actually their has been Sealed Brand New CF 2's on ebay for well over a year. I picked one up last spring for $6 plus around $8 shipping from Japan. I've seen them up there hundreds of times as well as on Yahoo auction and Sucess HK a few times.

[TR0N]

Well, I think part of the game's point was that the Holy Roman Empire was anything but holy.  The beating up a townsperson part was a skippable conversation scene.  I haven't played the US version, so I don't know how the US scene(s) compare to the JP one.  From what I've heard, most of the changes were names.

Does the US one still have the scene where people are burning at stakes?

Yeah it does.

[rxnoire]

being a conspiracy theorist fucktard, i found something INCREDIBLE in yuug's true identity.

yuug isn't the holy roman emperor, he's much more sinister.

in the homis shrine of the past, a worker will mistake Yuug for 'Hram Abis', the man in charge of Homis Shrine. Then, we learn that Hram was murdered by his three pupils: Yubera, Yubero, and Yuberum.

Now, if you ask me, 'Hram Abis' sounds a lot like HIRAM ABIFF, biblical figure/revered icon of those creepy FREEMASONS, who was murdered by his three pupils Jubela, Jubelo and Jubelum.

The resurrection of Moa, eaten by Garuda, was based upon an occult Masonic ritual.

and who was Yuug de Payne anyway? Perhaps Hugh de Payens, the real life founder of the Knights Templar.

and as we know, Yuug later reveals himself as Hram's reincarnation.

God i love this game.

[Keranu]

Dude, that's awesome.

[esteban]

being a conspiracy theorist fucktard, i found something INCREDIBLE in yuug's true identity.

yuug isn't the holy roman emperor, he's much more sinister.

in the homis shrine of the past, a worker will mistake Yuug for 'Hram Abis', the man in charge of Homis Shrine. Then, we learn that Hram was murdered by his three pupils: Yubera, Yubero, and Yuberum.

Now, if you ask me, 'Hram Abis' sounds a lot like HIRAM ABIFF, biblical figure/revered icon of those creepy FREEMASONS, who was murdered by his three pupils Jubela, Jubelo and Jubelum.

The resurrection of Moa, eaten by Garuda, was based upon an occult Masonic ritual.

and who was Yuug de Payne anyway? Perhaps Hugh de Payens, the real life founder of the Knights Templar.

and as we know, Yuug later reveals himself as Hram's reincarnation.

God i love this game.

Wow, if that stuff can be verified, it's friggin' brilliant! Seriously, I had no idea that Exile had this many references to real-world events / figures. This sort of info really needs to be in a wikipedia article

[CrackTiger]

It's kinda weird though... the art on the CD itself looks like a bad CDR applique. If it weren't sealed, I'd wonder if it really was...

I'd be playing it right now, except most of my videogame stuff is in storage  

Thats how the original's look. I was dissapointed when I got my first 1st party Turbo CD game like that(Lords Of The Rising Sun?) since I preffered the original Ys I & II/Valis II style covers and loved the PCE silk screens covers that my first 3 CD-ROM games(Golden Axe, Super Darius & Side Arms Special) had.

Actually their has been Sealed Brand New CF 2's on ebay for well over a year. I picked one up last spring for $6 plus around $8 shipping from Japan. I've seen them up there hundreds of times as well as on Yahoo auction and Sucess HK a few times.

I assume that you're talking about the PC Engine version. Everyone else is talking about the Working Designs version. Ironically though, there is a brand new PCE Cosmic 2 on eBay right now for $65.

[Keranu]

I like the newer CD printing style they used on later TGCD games, like It Came From the Desert and Lords of the Rising sun.

[grahf]

I just picked up one of the working designs copies on ebay a few weeks ago. Cost me a little over $50 + shipping.

[Emerald Rocker]

Whoa, rxnoire, that's some awesome research man.

This game gets better every day.