Everdrive cd

[Medic_wheat]

Might sound .unrealistic. 

But


Has there been or is there a possibility for a ever drive cd component.

Example being the Hu card everdrive having the capability to read save and play the cd based games, but from the Hu card.


I could be completly dead wrong 100% but the cd attachment was because CDs hold more data right?  It wasn't the cd having additional processing power right?   It was just used as a source of more data to read but be played with the pc core graphic processors. 

This might be a old topic an old wied eyed dream but just throwing out my rambaings for the day.

[Medic_wheat]

Found this post on another forum.

"The CD ROM games are not region protected and there's no SW protection whatsoever, so if you have a CDROM reader (CDROMROM or Super CDROMROM units) then you can burn to your heart's content.
If you have a Super CDROMROM unit (or equivalently a Duo/Duo R) you can still use the Turbo Everdrive to load the Super System Card 3.0 in English, or any of the older ones in case you need (Altered Beast requires System Card 1.0, to access the "Wrong System Card" on screen artwork also you need alternative System Cards loaded). Obviously the Arcade Card is not "loadable". On a CDROMROM unit (not Super) you can't just "load" Super System Card 3.0 via Everdrive, it won't work, but 1.0 or 2.0 are fine."

Makes seanse. I could see the ever drive being used for the various system cards...but I didn't realize the super cd games could be simply burned on a cd...cool.  Granted it won't have the durability as a pressed cd versus a burned one....

Dang. Was hoping there could be some sort of sd based way to access the cd based games through just the ever drive and a core system.....

Kinda like wha people have been doing with the dreamcast of late ...

[HailingTheThings]

Granted it won't have the durability as a pressed cd versus a burned one....

*ahem*

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=74%20gold%20archival%20cd

[pulstar]

It's not as unrealistic as it sounds. You *could* emulate the CD operation by using a FPGA and having it communicate with a SD card to load a bin/cue file. This would be a hell of a lot of work for someone (or a team) and would require production of the emulation board to connect to the system (probably by the EXT port). I'm sure there was a project doing just this for the PSX.

[PCEngineHell]

Granted it won't have the durability as a pressed cd versus a burned one....

*ahem*

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=74%20gold%20archival%20cd

Don't put that kind of faith into that. I have had professional cd-r's made by Taiyo Yuden and a couple other companies slowly go bad on me over the past few years. Disc burned mainly from 2002-2008. These were all stored in a temp controlled environment. Rather depressing considering how much I used to spend to buy long strategy disc. Ends up I am having them go bad more then the short strategy stuff I have had for the same amount of time.

[spenoza]

Don't put that kind of faith into that. I have had professional cd-r's made by Taiyo Yuden and a couple other companies slowly go bad on me over the past few years. Disc burned mainly from 2002-2008. These were all stored in a temp controlled environment. Rather depressing considering how much I used to spend to buy long strategy disc. Ends up I am having them go bad more then the short strategy stuff I have had for the same amount of time.

Several recent (in the past few years) studies have shown that some CDRs will degrade in as little as a year. So much depends on not just the substrate, but the type of glue, protection of the top layer, and specific formulation of the plastic.

That said, Mitsui's Gold CDs have a VERY good reputation. There is no archival standard (yes, many archival mediums, like paper and microfilm, have ISO standards) for CDs or other digital media at this time, but I would say that Mitsui's Gold are probably more consistent in manufacturing quality than any other type of disc. And they are priced like it, too. They aren't making them for casual users.

So Prof is right that there are absolutely no guarantees at all, but Mitsui Gold is probably the safest gamble available.

[HailingTheThings]

Don't put that kind of faith into that. I have had professional cd-r's made by Taiyo Yuden and a couple other companies slowly go bad on me over the past few years. Disc burned mainly from 2002-2008. These were all stored in a temp controlled environment. Rather depressing considering how much I used to spend to buy long strategy disc. Ends up I am having them go bad more then the short strategy stuff I have had for the same amount of time.

I'm very sorry to hear that. I have a CD-R from some company called Z-One Technologies, I think, that I burned in 1998. Still. Works. Perfectly. I don't know why. lol Actually, I do, gold-plated...pretty sure.

Several recent (in the past few years) studies have shown that some CDRs will degrade in as little as a year. So much depends on not just the substrate, but the type of glue, protection of the top layer, and specific formulation of the plastic.

That said, Mitsui's Gold CDs have a VERY good reputation. There is no archival standard (yes, many archival mediums, like paper and microfilm, have ISO standards) for CDs or other digital media at this time, but I would say that Mitsui's Gold are probably more consistent in manufacturing quality than any other type of disc. And they are priced like it, too. They aren't making them for casual users.

So Prof is right that there are absolutely no guarantees at all, but Mitsui Gold is probably the safest gamble available.

Mitsui = Wow. :3

[Blit]

It's not as unrealistic as it sounds. You *could* emulate the CD operation by using a FPGA and having it communicate with a SD card to load a bin/cue file. This would be a hell of a lot of work for someone (or a team) and would require production of the emulation board to connect to the system (probably by the EXT port). I'm sure there was a project doing just this for the PSX.

There is a finished one for the Sega Dreamcast. http://gdemu.wordpress.com/about/.
So it is indeed not unrealistic:)

[ToyMachine78]

Don't put that kind of faith into that. I have had professional cd-r's made by Taiyo Yuden and a couple other companies slowly go bad on me over the past few years. Disc burned mainly from 2002-2008. These were all stored in a temp controlled environment. Rather depressing considering how much I used to spend to buy long strategy disc. Ends up I am having them go bad more then the short strategy stuff I have had for the same amount of time.

Several recent (in the past few years) studies have shown that some CDRs will degrade in as little as a year. So much depends on not just the substrate, but the type of glue, protection of the top layer, and specific formulation of the plastic.

That said, Mitsui's Gold CDs have a VERY good reputation. There is no archival standard (yes, many archival mediums, like paper and microfilm, have ISO standards) for CDs or other digital media at this time, but I would say that Mitsui's Gold are probably more consistent in manufacturing quality than any other type of disc. And they are priced like it, too. They aren't making them for casual users.

So Prof is right that there are absolutely no guarantees at all, but Mitsui Gold is probably the safest gamble available.

.   All my cheapo Memorex discs I burned in the early 2000s are still going strong. And some are in rather poor shape with heavy scratching and stuff.

[Medic_wheat]

Don't put that kind of faith into that. I have had professional cd-r's made by Taiyo Yuden and a couple other companies slowly go bad on me over the past few years. Disc burned mainly from 2002-2008. These were all stored in a temp controlled environment. Rather depressing considering how much I used to spend to buy long strategy disc. Ends up I am having them go bad more then the short strategy stuff I have had for the same amount of time.

Several recent (in the past few years) studies have shown that some CDRs will degrade in as little as a year. So much depends on not just the substrate, but the type of glue, protection of the top layer, and specific formulation of the plastic.

That said, Mitsui's Gold CDs have a VERY good reputation. There is no archival standard (yes, many archival mediums, like paper and microfilm, have ISO standards) for CDs or other digital media at this time, but I would say that Mitsui's Gold are probably more consistent in manufacturing quality than any other type of disc. And they are priced like it, too. They aren't making them for casual users.

So Prof is right that there are absolutely no guarantees at all, but Mitsui Gold is probably the safest gamble available.

.   All my cheapo Memorex discs I burned in the early 2000s are still going strong. And some are in rather poor shape with heavy scratching and stuff.

[ToyMachine78]

^^^Uhhhh.... I don't get it....

[Medic_wheat]

^^^Uhhhh.... I don't get it....

I dont know seemed funny. What with your semi facebook like commenting and refuting between two opposing ideas of cd rewritable technology life span.

[pulstar]

It's not as unrealistic as it sounds. You *could* emulate the CD operation by using a FPGA and having it communicate with a SD card to load a bin/cue file. This would be a hell of a lot of work for someone (or a team) and would require production of the emulation board to connect to the system (probably by the EXT port). I'm sure there was a project doing just this for the PSX.

There is a finished one for the Sega Dreamcast. http://gdemu.wordpress.com/about/.
So it is indeed not unrealistic:)

Looks good. I didn't know people were working on SD Card replacements for other consoles. Would be cool to have one for the PC Engine as well.

[megatron-uk]

He's working on versions of GDEMU for Saturn and PC-Engine already. CD emulation for our beloved PC-Engine may not be too far away.

[pulstar]

This is starting to sound even better

[bonq]

I would buy something like that for the PCE that would rock my socks off!

-bonq

[johnnymad]

Absolutely. Just load your ISO or bin/cue files onto the SD card, then insert the everdrive into the CD tray.

This did NOT work!!!