Raffle: Kato chan & Ken chan (カトちゃんケンちゃん) and Youkaidouchuuki (妖怪道中記)

[grache]

The last entrant was ahuffman. The md5 hash of "ahuffman" is:
137e0f7bd8f69363f0054455f654da33
137e0f7bd8f69363f0054455f654da33 % 392 = 144Which means the winner is *drum roll* .... galam!!
First a little introduction, for 3 years I've been looking at ebay auctions for PCE systems and games. A month ago I took the plunge and did a couple big orders to save on shipping. I ended up with doubles for Kato chan & Ken chan and Youkaidouchuuki (Shadow Land / Tales of the Monster Path).

Inspired by the awesomeness / generosity of this forum, and in particular another new member's raffle ( https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=17800.0 ) I've decided to raffle off my two doubles.

Rules:
1) No minimum amount of posts, just as long as you've contributed something to the community.
2) You don't have both of these games. If you have one of the games please include it in the next raffle you do.
3) Open to all members regardless of location. I *might* ask for help on shipping if it's stupid high.
4) Raffle ends next Friday October 24th.

Edit
I've come up with a pointlessly complicated, yet verifiable and in my opinion fair, way of determining the winner of the raffle.

Each entrant will be alloted ticket(s) sequentially based on their order of entrance. The amount of tickets they receive will be determined by the following formula:
(min (100, (ceil (p/100) + (r*23)) )Where,
p = Entrants # of posts
r = Entrants # of raffles
Why 23? Because Jordan!

The winning ticket will be determined by md5 hash of the last entrant's handle modulus the total number of tickets:
md5hash(h) % tWhere,
t = Total # of tickets
h = Last entrant's handle

Entries:

• SuperGrafx - (min (100, (ceil (46/100) + (0*23)) = 1 ;Tickets 0 to 0
• elderbroom - (min (100, (ceil (207/100) + (2*23)) = 49 ; Tickets 1to 49
• galam - (min (100, (ceil (3044/100) + (19*23)) = 100 ; Tickets 50 to 149
• roflmao - (min (100, (ceil (3904/100) + (3*23)) = 100 ; Tickets 150 to 249
• spenoza - (min (100, (ceil (2178/100) + (1*23)) = 45 ; Tickets 250 to 294
• whisper2053 - (min (100, (ceil (379/100) + (1*23)) = 27 ; Tickets 295 to 321
• thesteve - (min (100, (ceil (2078/100) + (2*23)) = 67 ; Tickets 322 to 388
• clackattack - (min (100, (ceil (120/100) + (0*23)) = 2 ; Tickets 389 to 390
• ahuffman - (min (100, (ceil (15/100) + (0*23)) = 1 ; Tickets 391 to 391

[SuperGrafx]

I'm in!

[esteban]

[elderbroom]

Excellent raffle.  Can you please sign me up ?  I will be doing my TG16 raffle in November timeframe in advance of Christmas.

[cr8zykuban0]

very awesome dude! a new member contributing? hell yeah, I have both games but very big kudos to you man!

[bob]

I have given a few things away in the past. I would love a shot at this. I have neither of them. Thanks.

[roflmao]

Very generous of you, grache! +2 TurboKarma to you. I don't have either game and would love to participate.  It's been awhile (I've mostly been a lurker lately) but I've hosted a few auctions of my own bitd.

[grache]

Surprised to see how many old timers don't have these games. To think I felt bad about raffling off such common games!

[spenoza]

I'd like to be included, if only to see what number I get by your methodology. It's a hair over my head.

[grache]

I'd like to be included, if only to see what number I get by your methodology. It's a hair over my head.

I doubt that, especially after seeing your posts in the development forum.

Just to expand on what's in the OP, for every raffle an entrant has done in the past they get 23 tickets. They get 1 ticket for every 100 posts they have, "rounded up." With a cap of 100 tickets per entrant.

So you get 22 tickets for your posts ( ceil(2178/100)  ) and 23 tickets for the raffle you did. Since tickets 0 through 249 have been taken, you get 250 to 294.

So that's the fairness part, members who've contributed more to the community have an increased chance of winning. The verifiable part is md5 hashing the last entrant's handle and taking the remainder of division by the total number of tickets (a.k.a. modulus) to determine the winning ticket number. This way no one can say I picked the winner.

So if the raffle were to end right now, your handle would be used and 295 for the total number of tickets. The md5 hash of spenoza is 1e45a09761ec1870b338417f55847417, which is 12914143946636292000 in decimal. 12914143946636292000 % 295 = 260. So if no one else enters you win!

I'll be the first to admit it's pointless & unnecessary to develop such a cumbersome raffle system. But video games are pointless too, and I enjoy both of them. More importantly it's *my* raffle, I'll do what I want!! 

When I sifted through your posts looking to see how many raffles you'd done I saw you played the JP version of Neutopia. I was thinking of picking it up, did language get in the way much?

[esteban]

I'd like to be included, if only to see what number I get by your methodology. It's a hair over my head.

I doubt that, especially after seeing your posts in the development forum.

Just to expand on what's in the OP, for every raffle an entrant has done in the past they get 23 tickets. They get 1 ticket for every 100 posts they have, "rounded up." With a cap of 100 tickets per entrant.

So you get 22 tickets for your posts ( ceil(2178/100)  ) and 23 tickets for the raffle you did. Since tickets 0 through 249 have been taken, you get 250 to 294.

So that's the fairness part, members who've contributed more to the community have an increased chance of winning. The verifiable part is md5 hashing the last entrant's handle and taking the remainder of division by the total number of tickets (a.k.a. modulus) to determine the winning ticket number. This way no one can say I picked the winner.

So if the raffle were to end right now, your handle would be used and 295 for the total number of tickets. The md5 hash of spenoza is 1e45a09761ec1870b338417f55847417, which is 12914143946636292000 in decimal. 12914143946636292000 % 295 = 260. So if no one else enters you win!

I'll be the first to admit it's pointless & unnecessary to develop such a cumbersome raffle system. But video games are pointless too, and I enjoy both of them. More importantly it's *my* raffle, I'll do what I want!! 

When I sifted through your posts looking to see how many raffles you'd done I saw you played the JP version of Neutopia. I was thinking of picking it up, did language get in the way much?

I love the algorithm + raffle aspect of this thread. It gives it some personality.

[spenoza]

I doubt that, especially after seeing your posts in the development forum.

Alas, I know far more ABOUT programming than I actually know programming itself. I did some Basic on the Apple II when I was young, two semesters of Java in College in '99-2000, and some random tidbits of scripting here and there since. But I've never really taken it as seriously as many others, and so I still get very intimidated by code samples, especially those which use mathematical-style expressions. I'm much better at data structures than I am algorithms.

I'll be the first to admit it's pointless & unnecessary to develop such a cumbersome raffle system. But video games are pointless too, and I enjoy both of them. More importantly it's *my* raffle, I'll do what I want!! 

I love it, too, actually. Even though math intimidates me greatly, I still kinda love it at the theoretical level, and I have great respect for peeps who can bend it to their will, especially in the name of quirky, twisted fun.

When I sifted through your posts looking to see how many raffles you'd done I saw you played the JP version of Neutopia. I was thinking of picking it up, did language get in the way much?

It did hurt the atmosphere a little, and did make some directional stuff a little more confusing. That said, there are great maps and FAQs out there for the game, and most of the gameplay really is just smacking enemies in the face. If you don't mind a little loss of atmosphere and the need to occasionally check on-line resources when you get stuck, it's not so bad, really.

[SuperGrafx]

I'm not understanding this fully.
It says I have "tickets 0 - 0"...does that mean I'm not eligible for the raffle?

[esteban]

I'm not understanding this fully.
It says I have "tickets 0 - 0"...does that mean I'm not eligible for the raffle?

Correct. In mathematical terms, you are not "3.145698762345789" (in other words, you are never going to get a piece of the pie).

[whisper2053]

Eh, I'll throw my hat in the ring for this one. *crosses fingers and hopes he wins so the fart jokes can commence*

[grache]

I still get very intimidated by code samples, especially those which use mathematical-style expressions

What probably threw you off this time was the ceil and min functions, everyone understands them if they know what they are. A lot of times not knowing a convention or simple concept makes something seem much more intimidating / difficult than it really is.

Even though math intimidates me greatly, I still kinda love it at the theoretical level

I didn't care for Math growing up. It wasn't until I was in college I started to like it. I'm not good at it, but I appreciate it.

[tangential_diatribe]
I think the problem for me was the way Math is taught in grade school (and even sometimes in college). The K-12 classes I had put 90% plus focus on the mechanic, 10% to even 0% focus on what's actually going on. There was no intuition or creativity. The exams had cookie cutter problems that required a small amount of pattern recognition, then performing the steps we'd been shown a thousand times; not too different from a parrot saying "Polly want a cracker."
[/tangential_diatribe]

*Real* programming, not just linking functions together from high level APIs, is applied Math. If you're interested in learning more about Math that will help you with programming "Discrete Math" by Kenneth Rosen is a great book. You can get a used copy for ~$5 shipped: http://www.alibris.com/search/books/isbn/9780072899061?matches=15&ework=1747943&browse=1&mtype=B

It did hurt the atmosphere a little, and did make some directional stuff a little more confusing. That said, there are great maps and FAQs out there for the game, and most of the gameplay really is just smacking enemies in the face. If you don't mind a little loss of atmosphere and the need to occasionally check on-line resources when you get stuck, it's not so bad, really.

Thanks for the insight. US copies are going for more than I can currently justify paying. I think I'll just wait until my Everdrive gets here. I'm sure one day I'll get the JP copy and it will be easier to navigate once I've already finished the US version.

[grache]

I'm not understanding this fully.
It says I have "tickets 0 - 0"...does that mean I'm not eligible for the raffle?

Correct. In mathematical terms, you are not "3.145698762345789" (in other words, you are never going to get a piece of the pie).

esteban: 

Supergrafx: Don't worry, you're entered and eligible. I started numbering from 0, you've got ticket #0.

[thesteve]

im in

[clackattack]

Room for one more in that there raffle? I keep getting ridiculed by my Turbo-buddies for not owning JJ and Jeff or at least admitting to playing it before... Ive heard from more than one fellow PCEFX member that the PCe version is the better of the two

[esteban]

Room for one more in that there raffle? I keep getting ridiculed by my Turbo-buddies for not owning JJ and Jeff or at least admitting to playing it before... Ive heard from more than one fellow PCEFX member that the PCe version is the better of the two

Both versions are great. Personally, I prefer the "can of spray paint attack" to the "fart". But that's just me.

[clackattack]

Fart is in PCE or TG16? I cant help but feel that a really nasty fart may subdue an evil-doer moreso than a can of paint... but then again i have no experience with either of the 2, this game or real life crime fighting

[JoshTurboTrollX]

This is a raffle for teh shadowlands.

[ahuffman]

Can I get in on this as well?

[esteban]

Goverrats in Shadowlands.

Fart is in PCE or TG16? I cant help but feel that a really nasty fart may subdue an evil-doer moreso than a can of paint... but then again i have no experience with either of the 2, this game or real life crime fighting

Aggrofart is in the PCE version.

[grache]

This is a raffle for teh shadowlands.

I'm not only new to this forum but to the PC Engine as well. Shadowlands is considered an incorrect translation?

[Nazi NecroPhile]

Shadowlands is considered an incorrect translation?

Yep, but it's also a running joke 'round here, originating from some facebook nazi moron.

[bob]

so according to your formula, if i read it correct, i have done 19 raffles?

[esteban]

so according to your formula, if i read it correct, i have done 19 raffles?

You forgot to divide by pi.

19/3.14568972378566273=no raffle tickets for you.

[grache]

Shadowlands is considered an incorrect translation?

Yep, but it's also a running joke 'round here, originating from some facebook nazi moron.

Yea I saw that post after I'd started the raffle, I wasn't sure which translation was incorrect though.

[grache]

so according to your formula, if i read it correct, i have done 19 raffles?

I'm doing this by hand. I go into people's posts and select topic and look for each raffle topic they've started. I saw your thread with 19 caption comments (https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=14108.0). I stopped looking then because the cap is 100 tickets.

So even if you've done 1900 raffles it doesn't really matter because you've already got max tickets.

So if anyone else feels that I've misrepresented the amount of raffles they've done, let me know before Saturday morning because the games are shipping then.

[bob]

I WON!
I'll pm address soon. Im between addresses right now. Prob have it sent to work.

[esteban]

I WON!
I'll pm address soon. Im between addresses right now. Prob have it sent to work.

You have won 23 raffle tickets.

[spenoza]

The hash has favored YOU galam... Do not abuse this power by sending some spiky-haired punk into the future.

[roflmao]

So close! Congrats Galam!

[bob]

a quick thank you for the cards.

he shipped fast and a nuke bomb would not have damaged them during shipping.
good new member here.  i would trust buying off him if he ever has sales threads.

[grache]

* grache blushes

aw shux, thanks galam