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bob

yer write, G-knight.  lets muh clarify....thiz TOPIC is sad, eye guess not tuh thred.

oh...and funny story...did you know that DK and I went to a gay bar together?  I went to his apartment and we played Strider 2 on playstation.  His cat was pissing me off so we decided to go drink.  He takes me to a place that was all dudes and when we walk in, he says..."this is my favorite place in town."

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DildoKKKobold

Don't listen to galam, he only likes bars with 6" of piss, beer, and vomit caked on every surface. If you feel like you'll get hepatitis just by walking in the door, its his kind of place.
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Quote from: guest on 05/12/2015, 11:13 PMIf you feel like you'll get hepatitis just by walking in the door, its his kind of place.
Better than HIV I suppose! :D

bob

Quote from: guest on 05/12/2015, 11:13 PMDon't listen to galam, he only likes bars with 6" of piss, beer, and vomit caked on every surface. If you feel like you'll get hepatitis just by walking in the door, its his kind of place.
I know what place you are talking about, and if i remember correctly, YOU suggested we go back there.

DildoKKKobold

Quote from: galam on 05/12/2015, 11:20 PM
Quote from: DildoKKKobold on 05/12/2015, 11:13 PMDon't listen to galam, he only likes bars with 6" of piss, beer, and vomit caked on every surface. If you feel like you'll get hepatitis just by walking in the door, its his kind of place.
I know what place you are talking about, and if i remember correctly, YOU suggested we go back there.
Because I didn't want to break your heart. I'm pretty sure you lost there, 0-3, on a non-video game.
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Quote from: guest on 05/12/2015, 09:47 PM
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 05/12/2015, 09:24 PMThink of all the things you guys could be doing with your time, instead of typing out walls of text in an attempt to prove wrong someone whom you've never met.
Think of all the things you guys could be doing with your time, instead of whining about each and every piece of content you don't like that shows up on a forum.
It's cool, it was only one sentence.  I banged it out in no time flat.

And you know I'm right.

Nazi NecroPhile

Instead of posting here, you guys could be making boring videos that nobody watches.  Suh-wheat!  :twisted:

Quote from: DildoKKKobold on 05/12/2015, 07:47 PMIn my opinion, "playing the fool" would be throwing out childish name-calling in an otherwise civil debate. I guess some people just aren't capable of much else.
Give me a break.  We all know the only reason you jumped in here was to troll N.W., claiming that deucebag owns the translations.

And you can cram your jackball examples of derivative works sideways, as they're not even close to the same situation.  A simple translation that hews closely to the source material (as Ys IV does) has little to no original content over which to claim IP rights, whereas Ice Ice Baby only sampled a few notes and 50 Shades of Grey only used character names and relationships, leaving the bulk of their contents to be claimed as original.
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Sparky

Quote from: NecroPhile on 05/13/2015, 11:44 AMGive me a break.  We all know the only reason you jumped in here was to troll N.W., claiming that deucebag owns the translations.
You never see this guy give to a positive thread, or help anyone out. What a sad friendless fuck.

sirhcman

Quote from: guest on 05/13/2015, 01:27 PMYou never see this guy give to a positive thread, or help anyone out. What a sad friendless fuck.
Hey sparky I am not trying to start more drama, choose sides or defend anyone. I can only speak for myself and from my past experience and tell everyone that DK has helped me out before. It wasn't on this forum but I figured I would mention it

I wish everyone would just get along, we all share in the same passion and I get there are going to be disagreements. It just sucks we have this stuff but I guess that's part of life :)

CGQuarterly

Quote from: guest on 05/13/2015, 11:44 AMInstead of posting here, you guys could be making boring videos that nobody watches.  Suh-wheat!  :twisted:
I manage to make time for both.

GohanX


SephirothTNH

Hey NightWolve I just wanted to show some support.  I'm still with you, and still boycotting xseed since your first post on the subject.  Though I was shocked to not see your name in the games originally I erroneously thought you got something out of the deal.  That is until you brought all this to light.

Anyway I've had my fill of arguing with the mindless over on ALoY so I have nothing more to add on that.

Stay strong.

Sparky

All good sirhcman, glad you had a good run in.
To be honest he has done nothing to me! But the way he comes off on this forum makes me not like him. Just a trolling douche, I wish he was at least funny, he is pathetic.

DildoKKKobold

Quote from: guest on 05/13/2015, 07:50 PMAll good sirhcman, glad you had a good run in.
To be honest he has done nothing to me! But the way he comes off on this forum makes me not like him. Just a trolling douche, I wish he was at least funny, he is pathetic.
Yeah, I've done nothing to you, and yet you've followed me around, making snide comments and name calling.

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=19014.msg405336#msg405336

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=18997.msg404884#msg404884

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=18548.msg393282#msg393282

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=8477.msg381069#msg381069

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=8477.msg273924#msg273924

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=13732.msg273017#msg273017

Who is the trolling douche?

EDIT: And you know what? It wouldn't bother me that much if you didn't act like a butthurt blocking baby when I FINALLY got sick of your shit and threw it back at you. 

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=19014.msg405355#msg405355

Who is pathetic?

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Sparky

Just in case that last reply was for me.
Try being a positive member on here sunshine. Your image is tarnished.

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DildoKKKobold

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Yeah right, like you aren't clicking show post, you cry baby.

You may be nice to everyone else, but you have been nothing but a dick to me, when I've not done anything to you (by your own admission). Pretend you aren't reading my posts all you want, but you are nothing more than a guy who dishes, but can't take. Fucking. Pathetic.

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Sparky

Haha.. It's like your talking into a pillow.. I could careless, keep replying.. Hahaha

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Sparky

How embarrassing for you. Keep it coming.
Type me a long one that I won't view. :p..

Dude I am serious

CGQuarterly

Hahah I love how he spent time digging through old posts just to try to find examples of Sparky messing with him.

I bet we could make a game out of seeing how much time we could make him waste trying to win some pointless argument.  Oh, wait.

Sparky

Finally some lutz in fighting street.
I wish Sinny was still here. He would have his fun with you DK like I am.

geise

Quote from: guest on 05/13/2015, 09:15 PMIMG

Yeah right, like you aren't clicking show post, you cry baby.

You may be nice to everyone else, but you have been nothing but a dick to me, when I've not done anything to you (by your own admission). Pretend you aren't reading my posts all you want, but you are nothing more than a guy who dishes, but can't take. Fucking. Pathetic.
What do you personally get out of being here?

Sparky

Oh hell don't quote him as now I see it.. DK like I said, why I treat you bad is because you treat everyone else that way. I can dish it out and take it as I could careless what you say, I have a life outside this fourm, what do you have?

A bowl of Cheerios and a morning talk with your mom in the morning?

Hahaha.. Pathetic and them some.

DildoKKKobold

Why is Sparky asking me questions? He's made a dammed fool of himself pretending he isn't reading my posts. Why give himself something to pretend not to read?

Why, in the exact same thread that galam said we went drinking together, he's talking about how I do nothing?

Why does geise care why I'm here?

Why does Jibba care what I do with my time? Its better than whining, that is for sure.

Why, if everyone hates me so much, do they cling to me, and get excited when I post? I feel famous.

Why are hot dogs in 10 packs, and buns in 8 packs?

Are we alone in the universe?

Is there a God?

If a tree posts in PCEFX, and no one is around to read it, does it make a sound?
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Sparky

Hahahaha.. Seriously, unless they quote it I do not see it. Let's see how mad you can get.

bob

Quote from: guest on 05/13/2015, 10:13 PMWhy is Sparky asking me questions? He's made a dammed fool of himself pretending he isn't reading my posts. Why give himself something to pretend not to read?

Why, in the exact same thread that galam said we went drinking together, he's talking about how I do nothing?

Why does geise care why I'm here?

Why does Jibba care what I do with my time? Its better than whining, that is for sure.

Why, if everyone hates me so much, do they cling to me, and get excited when I post? I feel famous.

Why are hot dogs in 10 packs, and buns in 8 packs?

Are we alone in the universe?

Is there a God?

If a tree posts in PCEFX, and no one is around to read it, does it make a sound?
God i hate you.

Sparky

I just wish he was at least funny
Edit: and I am not reading them DBag, I promise on my life. Unless they are quoted. <<gives finger>>

SephirothTNH


Sparky

Shows over.. Some of us have jobs and a life in the morning.
Say hi to your mom DK.

CGQuarterly

Quote from: guest on 05/13/2015, 10:13 PMWhy does Jibba care what I do with my time? Its better than whining, that is for sure.
To be fair, what I am doing could still be considered whining.  It just depends on the tone in which you read my posts.

Nazi NecroPhile

640 posts, almost exclusively in threads like this one where he's spouting half reasoned bullshit and outright ignorance.  Pathetic indeed.
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DildoKKKobold

Quote from: NecroPhile on 05/14/2015, 10:13 AM640 posts, almost exclusively in threads like this one where he's spouting half reasoned bullshit and outright ignorance.  Pathetic indeed.
You are 100% correct. Man, if only I'd spent those posts calling people cunts, I'd be moderator by now. ;)
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Quote from: guest on 05/13/2015, 10:13 PMSee in italics below-
Why is Sparky asking me questions? He's made a dammed fool of himself pretending he isn't reading my posts. Why give himself something to pretend not to read?
*sips wine*  Learn to accept things as they are and all will come together in the end.

Why, in the exact same thread that galam said we went drinking together, he's talking about how I do nothing?
galam drinks with all the cool kids.  You should feel privileged.

Why does geise care why I'm here?
He's a caring individual that truly wants what is best for the community.  He values you.

Why does Jibba care what I do with my time? Its better than whining, that is for sure.
Jibs has a TV show with millions of viewers.  Perhaps he wants you to be a guest on Same Gack?

Why, if everyone hates me so much, do they cling to me, and get excited when I post? I feel famous.
Nobody hates you, they are just conflicted with the things you say.  From now on try putting a 'j/k' or an 'LOL' at the end of every post.  There are still ways to convert you to our beliefs.

Why are hot dogs in 10 packs, and buns in 8 packs?
I want to say this has been fixed now.  Hotdogs and Buns come each in 8 packs. 

Are we alone in the universe?
Not likely.

Is there a God?
Not likely

If a tree posts in PCEFX, and no one is around to read it, does it make a sound?
Let's find out?

j/k  ;)
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CGQuarterly

Quote from: JoshTurboTrollX-16 on 05/14/2015, 11:06 AMJibs has a TV show with millions of viewers.
Literally.

And "Same Gack" sounds like a Mad Magazine parody of Joe's show.  That would be pretty funny, actually.

bob

Quote from: JoshTurboTrollX-16 on 05/14/2015, 11:06 AMWhy, in the exact same thread that galam said we went drinking together, he's talking about how I do nothing?
galam drinks with all the cool kids.  You should feel privileged.
"galam" has been eradicated.

Alt-Nintega

Quote from: guest on 05/13/2015, 10:13 PMWhy is Sparky asking me questions? He's made a dammed fool of himself pretending he isn't reading my posts. Why give himself something to pretend not to read?

Why, in the exact same thread that galam said we went drinking together, he's talking about how I do nothing?

Why does geise care why I'm here?

Why does Jibba care what I do with my time? Its better than whining, that is for sure.

Why, if everyone hates me so much, do they cling to me, and get excited when I post? I feel famous.

Why are hot dogs in 10 packs, and buns in 8 packs?

Are we alone in the universe?

Is there a God?

If a tree posts in PCEFX, and no one is around to read it, does it make a sound?

Why doesn't Sparky sell his labels individually? why do we need to buy all 94?
anyways all jokes aside....so who got the biggest hot dog around these parts? Like in the wild animal world, the biggest unit is the boss, second biggest is the under-boss etc. and so on.....that's how it should be based on

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Sparky

Quote from: Psycho Alt-Nintega on 05/14/2015, 10:24 PMWhy doesn't Sparky sell his labels individually? why do we need to buy all 94?
You do not to have to buy all 94, I have a small set as well.

But I have been asked this question a few times before "why I do not sell them individually", first off I get these printed professionally in the city and printing sets makes it not only cost effective but easier for me and worth my time to pick up, trim and to sell. If I let people cheery pick I would be stuck returning to get reprints, plus I would be stuck with piles of keith Courage and sports game stickies :P

Most people want a full set, and if you do the math I think I am asking like 26.5 cents a sticker


sirhcman


Arjak

Wow. This thread really exploded while I was busy finishing up my classes.

First off, I must say that I find NW's paranoid delusion of me being a secret agent working for XSeed absolutely hilarious. Honestly, I cannot even recall the last time I logged on to ALOY, and I certainly haven't been speaking to XSeed staff on the side. Still, I can't help but be a little touched that NW sees me as such a threat! :P

Let's say, for the sake of argument, that what Deuce and XSeed did was indisputably illegal. That does not make it legal, in ANY way, for NW to retaliate by releasing a pirated version of Ys VI at the same time as XSeed's version. NW's argument for why he should be allowed to do this is basically, "They hit me first!" Seriously? Are we all still in Third Grade?

My reasoning for calling NW crazy was not that I didn't believe that he had been screwed over by Deuce and XSeed (although I probably could have clarified that better in previous posts). He may have been. I am not capable of making a proper judgement, because I do not have all the facts and both sides of the story. All I had was NW's word and some circumstantial evidence.

The reason that I feel NW is out of his mind is because his immature actions are only going to hurt any case he might have a chance to make. Whether Deuce and XSeed eventually are found guilty or not, the fact that NW is throwing temper tantrums and using illegal petty revenge tactics is going to make any lawyer or judge in the case think long and hard about supporting him. It will also give XSeed some high-caliber ammo of their own. NW is shooting himself and his case in the foot.

Finally, you can call me crazy all you want, NW. From what I've seen, it's all "Pot calling the kettle black." The simple fact of the matter is that my point of view clashes with yours. If that makes me crazy, having a different point of view from you, I would hate to find out what being a "sane" person is like. They sound like a bunch of sick fucks to me. :roll:


This was the part where I was going to lay into Prof., but do I really need to? The fact that he's attacking me over my disability, and basically telling me to get over it as if I could walk it off, and all in the most insulting, obnoxious way possible, really says everything you need to know about his character.


Moving on, can someone summarize for me why everyone hates DarkKobold? All I remember is something about everyone going psycho over his Tool-Assisted Speedruns or something. Was that DK, or someone else? :-k
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Quote from: Arjak on 05/16/2015, 08:46 PMThis was the part where I was going to lay into Prof., but do I really need to? The fact that he's attacking me over my disability, and basically telling me to get over it as if I could walk it off, and all in the most insulting, obnoxious way possible, really says everything you need to know about his character.
On no child, make no mistake, I am not attacking you because you have a disability. Lets snuff out that wishful thinking right now. The reality of the situation is I laid into you because you decided you would try to use your disability as an excuse to have free reign to pester, cause drama, and insert yourself multiple times into Nicks business, like you are still doing as of today.

You trying to use Asperger's syndrome in this manner, laying much of the blame on it, and not taking responsibility for your own actions, per your own motivations, is an insult to people coping with it every day, a large majority of which I am sure are not doing the stupid shit you're doing here online. Lets face it, everything you have done you have had a choice to do, or not do, Asperger's syndrome or not.

It's not like you didn't have time to think it over before hitting "post" every time. Last I checked, Asperger's syndrome did not inhibit a persons ability to proof read and take the time to consider their actions prior to doing them, for like lets say, 10 mins?


And lets face it, if you're disability was really this damaging to you, let alone others like Nick whom you have attacked multiple times now, would it not be the responsible and totally reasonable thing to just get the fuck off the net and stay off it since you cant behave yourself?

See, that is the thing right there, you have a choice to do these things, and you keep choosing to do them as opposed to doing the right thing. You have admitted they are wrong, so by doing so you have acknowledged you're aware said actions are causing harm. Take responsibility for yourself and gtfo already, and go seek help. It's not our job to deal with your bullshit. Go find a different outlet for your nonsense. Preferably one that doesn't cause an issue for someone else.


esteban

I want everyone who is fighting to kiss and make up.

And I want y'all to share a pint of Sparkling Apple Juice with me, and then have another round (of kisses and hugs).

There is too much hate.

FOR THE RECORD, I LOVE YOU ALL.

Except for Nulltard. That douchebag decided to rewatch old episodes of Metal Jesus instead of joining me in a Blodia/Spin Pair marathon.
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Arjak

Quote from: PCEngineHell on 05/16/2015, 11:12 PMOn no child, make no mistake, I am not attacking you because you have a disability. Lets snuff out that wishful thinking right now. The reality of the situation is I laid into you because you decided you would try to use your disability as an excuse to have free reign to pester, cause drama, and insert yourself multiple times into Nicks business, like you are still doing as of today.
I accept that, and you are right that using my disability as a crutch was immature and wrong of me. My disability isn't why I attacked Nick. I attacked Nick for the same reason I'm assuming you attacked me; I have a very low tolerance for people's bullshit.

If Nick had been dealing with Deuce and XSeed's apparent treachery in a mature, sensible way, not only would I not feel the need to attack him like this, but I would also most likely give his story a lot more credence. Ever since the Felghana translation patch fiasco, though, Nick's behavior has been extremely odd, to say the least. I had been trying to put up with it for a while, but when I saw that Facebook post, I decided that I had had enough.

I remember reading an interview with Deuce a while back on Hardcore Gaming 101. He mentioned that one of the main reasons he quit associating himself with NightWolve was because of his behavior after the patch leak. Regardless of the morality of his actions, I can understand where he was coming from. Seriously, I remember NW seemed like a completely different person before that. When the patch got leaked, he went totally ape shit.
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SephirothTNH

Quote from: Arjak on 05/16/2015, 08:46 PMMy reasoning for calling NW crazy was not that I didn't believe that he had been screwed over by Deuce and XSeed (although I probably could have clarified that better in previous posts). He may have been. I am not capable of making a proper judgement, because I do not have all the facts and both sides of the story. All I had was NW's word and some circumstantial evidence.
This is what I don't get from people on your side of the argument.  We most certainly have more than NW's word and circumstantial evidence.

We have a history of cold hard facts.  Even though I doubt it will do any good let me state them again.

The Felghana fan translation came about due to the hard work of at least two individuals.  A hacker, Nightwolve and a translator, Deuce.

Wyrdwad/Xseed made multiple announcements on ALoY and elsewhere that they bought the fan translation and were using it as the bases of their localization.

Deuce got credit/compensation; NightWolve did not.

Even if the fan translation could have come about without NightWolve the fact remains that it did not.

Wyrdwad hated NightWolve and loved it when some Jackass removed his credits from the translation patch.

Now let me explain those facts to you. 
The translated script was a byproduct of two people not one.  Deuce had no more ownership of it then NW.  And no more right to sell it then NW.  Deucebag stabbed his coworker in the back in order to take all the credit.

When Xseed announced they were using the fan translation they owed all members involved in the fan translation credit.  Even if they changed every word after that they still claim to have used the fan translation and still credit the fan translations translator only.

Wyrdwad has shown malice toward NW for a long time.  I can't see his actions removing fan translation credits sitting well with any rom hacking/fan translation group.  When I saw his old posts on this it proved to me that he was scum of the earth.  And would likely try to screw NW over if ever given the chance.  Which he was.

Now ignore all my interpretation of it and just look at the facts.  The only way the "I don't know both sides of the story" argument works is if you ignore the facts.  Xseed profited off the fact that there already existed a translation that itself only existed because NightWolve helped to create it.  Yet NightWolve received no credit for it. 

So in light of the facts there is really only two sides to cast your lot on.  Either you know NightWolve helped create the fan translation that xseed confirmed using and don't care or don't think he deserved credit.  Or you think NW does deserve credit and at the very least Wyrdwad and Deuce cheated him out of it. 

But you absolutely can't claim to not have enough information to make an informed decision.  And if that is your claim why even butt into it.

Edit:  Oh yeah.  I used Felghana as the example but everything I said also applies to Ys I and II.  And  the only thing that you have to take NW's word on is that it also applies to Origin and Napishtim.  But to me NW's character is not in question so I take him at his word.

esteban

Sephiroth, thank you.

As you point out, the issue really boils down to...

Quote%Either you know NightWolve helped create the fan translation that xseed confirmed using and don't care or don't think he deserved credit.  Or you think NW does deserve credit and at the very least Wyrdwad and Deuce cheated him out of it.
It really is a basic litmus test.
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Arjak

Fair enough. You're absolutely right that NightWolve deserves credit for the work he put into making the translation possible. He absolutely does. What I really take issue with is his childish behavior concerning this whole issue. It's because of this behavior that I had trouble trusting him. Also, it's only going to hurt him if his case ever goes to court.

Sephiroth, thank you for your well-written post. I cannot argue with facts. I said some things in my earlier posts that show how emotional I was while writing them and that didn't make a lick of sense. The truth is, I typed without thinking rationally.

I made my prior posts in frustrated anger, and after thinking about it, you are all absolutely right that this is none of my business and that my ramblings do not hold water.

NightWolve, I can only offer my most sincere apologies to you for all the bullshit I've spewed. I know it's not worth much, considering that this isn't the first time I've done shit like this to you. For what it's worth though, I plan on doing my best to not screw up a third time. Whether you forgive me or not, I totally understand your frustration with me. I have been acting as a fair-weather friend, and you deserve better than that.

Finally, I am intrigued by those posts by Wyrdwad that you mentioned, Sephiroth. Would you mind sending me a link to some of them when you have the time?

Anyway, I'll try to keep my trap shut on this issue from now on. My foot tastes quite awful. ](*,)
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wildfruit

Mmm sparkilng apple juice would be nice right now.
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