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[Seldane]

Konami ruined scaling/rotation for me with their horrible Castlevania games for GBA.

[Kitsunexus]

Well to be fair, the only thing good about ANY Castlevania was the music.

Yeah, fanboys. I just went there. Commence the flames, but I'm sticking by my guns.

I'm more of a Parodious/Gradius fanboy.

[Seldane]

Yeah I guess that's pretty true. Except of course about the music bit. At least the GBA/DS games (Aria of whatever, GBA in particular) feature some of the worst noise I have heard in my life.

The PCE/PS1 games had nice music though.

[Kitsunexus]

Yeah I guess that's pretty true. Except of course about the music bit. At least the GBA/DS games (Aria of whatever, GBA in particular) feature some of the worst noise I have heard in my life.

The PCE/PS1 games had nice music though.

Yeah, the GBA chips doesn't really do the music justice, but I like the new DS game's music. It's classic Yuzo Koshiro.

[Keranu]

Konami ruined scaling/rotation for me with their horrible Castlevania games for GBA.

Agreed.

[CrackTiger]

The SNES's Mosaic effect was rarely put to good use. The only game I can think of that did anything good with it is Super Turrican.

I've always thought that the walking while poisoned effect in games like the Final Fantasy's was the best use of it.

[Keranu]

Hey I always liked that mosaic effect in games!

[Joe Redifer]

I'm more of a Parodious/Gradius fanboy.

Ummm... why?  Parodius I can understand.  But Gradius?  It's so.... bland!

[Seldane]

Gradius 5 rules!

Gradius 1.... not so much.

[Kitsunexus]

I'm more of a Parodious/Gradius fanboy.

Ummm... why?  Parodius I can understand.  But Gradius?  It's so.... bland!

Because I embrace all SHMUPS with open arms.  Except Cho-Anki. Keep that shit away from me.

[NecroPhile]

Kitsune - You know you want to embrace the oiled, half-naked, sexy men.  You can't fool me. 

[Keranu]

Cho Aniki blowz Gradius out of the water.

[Joe Redifer]

Gradius 5 does indeed kick ass.  The only good thing about any of the other Gradius games was some (not all) of the music.  This is absolute 100% fact.  It is written in the Bible and the Koran.

Kitsu is afraid that Cho Aniki may release suppressed feelings hidden deep inside of him. 

[CrackTiger]

Because I embrace all SHMUPS with open arms.  Except Cho-Anki. Keep that shit away from me.

What if it was beastman on beastman flirting?

[Kitsunexus]

Because I embrace all SHMUPS with open arms.  Except Cho-Anki. Keep that shit away from me.

What if it was beastman on beastman flirting?

I plead the Fifth!


j/k 

[TurboXray]

Man.. how can you not like Cho Aniki? I can see, *maybe*, if you don't like Ai Cho Aniki - but Cho Aniki? Come on! Get over that homophobia and enjoy a great game

 The graphics in Ai Cho Aniki are great, but that game is HARD

[Kitsunexus]

Get over that homophobia

Umm, no. You see, I have no problem with gays, I talk with them and everything. But I don't slam my straightness in your face, don't slam your gayness in mine right? Cho Aniki does just that. So I hate it.

[Keranu]

Ai Cho Aniki is just wacky Japanese humor, I doubt the creators are homosexuals that are trying to slam their gay pride in your face, Kitsune. (or maybe they are?) Either way, don't take it seriously.

[CrackTiger]

Get over that homophobia

Umm, no. You see, I have no problem with gays, I talk with them and everything. But I don't slam my straightness in your face, don't slam your gayness in mine right? Cho Aniki does just that. So I hate it.

Don't most mainstream games shove rampant heterosexuality in your face with buff he-men and filthy dirt sluts goin' at it left and right?

[Joe Redifer]

Where was the favorite game babes thread?  I need to slam my heterosexuality into your face and post some more pictures!

[Keranu]

I find Final Fantasy to slam more homosexuality in all your faces than Cho Aniki.

[CrackTiger]

I find Final Fantasy to slam more homosexuality in all your faces than Cho Aniki.

There's a difference between femmesexuality and homoosexuality and femtardsexuality.

Amano androngenous FF characters's being more femme'y and that other guy's inbred uniquely-disabled fashionly challenged manboy parade being over the top femtardastic.

All the main characters in FFXII look like Matt Damon dressed in baby clothes with alternate hairstyles. And it has the best looking characters since FFVII.

[Seldane]

I disagree. The characters in FF7 looked like trolls/monsters. Look at Tifa! Disgusting!

[CrackTiger]

I disagree. The characters in FF7 looked like trolls/monsters. Look at Tifa! Disgusting!

True, but they're still less ridiculously dressed and less inbred looking than the FF's that followed.

[Seldane]

Maybe you're right, but at least they aren't downright repulsive like, again, Tifa.

Let's be disgusted together:

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[Kitsunexus]

You're kidding. I really hope you're kidding. Tifa = HOT.

[Seldane]

You're into old ladies then?

[Kitsunexus]

Tifa is 20 years old. If that's an old lady to you, then you really need to stop fapping to lolicon.

[OldRover]

Tifa's got major redeye in that pic.

[SignOfZeta]

Konami ruined scaling/rotation for me with their horrible Castlevania games for GBA.

So uh, you just hate everything, is that right?

[Keranu]

Tifa has one messed up face, it almost looks like she has a beak. Uggh and those small pointy noses.

[Joe Redifer]

And her legs are over twice as long as the rest of her body.

[Seldane]

Tifa has one messed up face, it almost looks like she has a beak. Uggh and those small pointy noses.

Right right right!

And her legs are over twice as long as the rest of her body.

So true!

[Kitsunexus]

Well Tifa is really the only hot HUMAN videogame girl I like...

[CrackTiger]

Well Tifa is really the only hot HUMAN videogame girl I like...

Probably because she looks so much like an animal.

[Keranu]

Well Tifa is really the only hot HUMAN videogame girl I like...

Probably because she looks so much like an animal.

Haaaahahaha  !

[Joe Redifer]

the SegaCD was limited to one 16 color palette for *all* the scaling/rotation and was limited to 30fps at best (small window) and much less FPS for full screen window(scaling/rotation).

The huge purple scaling ship in stage 1 (that you fly into) of Soul Star has at least 24 colors on it, and that is not counting the other objects onscreen that are also scaling that have different colors that are not on the giant ship.  I don't mean to sound smug, but that kind of throws your 16-color limit for ALL the scaling and rotation out the window.



I cropped everything that wasn't this ship out of the screen, including the player ship (black box in the image), even though the player ship happens to scale.  That leaves us with 23 colors for the purple ship alone, and the entire ship isn't even on the screen.

[GUTS]

^^ Also the parts where you can walk around have the floor scaling and rotating, and that was full screen.  Same with Battlecorps.  Both had a good framerate.

[CrackTiger]

What about the aircraft carrier at the beginning of AfterBurner II PCE? It was a whole bg layer and (depending on how you want to count it) it's got 16 - 25+ colors. 

[Joe Redifer]

I'm sure it does.  It also has a frame rate of about 5fps.

[esteban]

I'm sure it does.  It also has a frame rate of about 5fps.

I think you're being generous.

[CrackTiger]

I'm sure it does.  It also has a frame rate of about 5fps.

It also doesn't have hardware scaling like the big guys.

And don't the bonus stages in Sonic CD run at 6 fps? 

[nat]

NEC Avenue was smart to leave the "SEGA" logo on that aircraft carrier.

That way, as PCE/Turbo players played the game and experienced the lousy framerate first-hand, the craptacular experience would be in their minds forever associated with..... You guessed it: SEGA.      

[Joe Redifer]

And don't the bonus stages in Sonic CD run at 6 fps? 

A solid 15fps.  Sonic CD is a piece-o-shit game all around.

Zero Tolerance on the Genesis doesn't use hardware scaling and it puts After Burner on the PCE to shame, even though it only uses about a quarter of the screen.  That's because Sega is full of power and is great.

[TurboXray]

the SegaCD was limited to one 16 color palette for *all* the scaling/rotation and was limited to 30fps at best (small window) and much less FPS for full screen window(scaling/rotation).

The huge purple scaling ship in stage 1 (that you fly into) of Soul Star has at least 24 colors on it, and that is not counting the other objects onscreen that are also scaling that have different colors that are not on the giant ship.  I don't mean to sound smug, but that kind of throws your 16-color limit for ALL the scaling and rotation out the window.



I cropped everything that wasn't this ship out of the screen, including the player ship (black box in the image), even though the player ship happens to scale.  That leaves us with 23 colors for the purple ship alone, and the entire ship isn't even on the screen.

Uhh yeah, you can combine both BG layers for up to 31 colors( 1 is repeated)- but it's still limited to 16 colors per layer like I said. There are tricks you can do but the point is still the same  - 16(15) colors per layer be it BG layer 1, BG layer 2, or sprite layer if sections(tiles) are going to cross over into other areas.

[Joe Redifer]

You didn't say per layer, you said

for *all* the scaling/rotation

That ship is a single BG layer.  No sprites.  No BG2.