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How the heck do you pronounce "Veigues"???

Started by kid_rondeau, 05/05/2007, 07:16 AM

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kid_rondeau

I've heard:

VAY-guss
VEE-guss
"Vegas"
VEEG-iss
VAY-gyooz

and about fifteen other variations.

I'm tempted to go with "VAY-gyooz".

Seldane

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Turbo D

I always pronounce it like Las Vegas, haha. Games with strange titles are fun cuz everyone thinks of the pronunciation in there own way.
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Tatsujin

according the japanese it should be called "Ueigus" or "Veigus".
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TurboXray

I pronounce it, "Drunken ice skating robot".

offsidewing

Growing up, we just called it VEE-GEE-US.  We had no idea.  To this day we still call it that.

esteban

I always pronounced it as "Veegz",

AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO.

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ParanoiaDragon

Quote from: Seldane on 05/05/2007, 07:45 AMI say veigz (like vague.....s). :P
That's how I always pronounced it as well.
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motdelbuort

I always pronounced it Vie-gyooz.

Is "ei" ever pronounced the same as "ie?"

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Digi.k

Isn't Veigues made by Game-Arts and released in japan by Victor JVC ?

Still I really like the graphics in that.. shame that the mecha is soo big >.>

esteban

Quote from: Digi.k on 05/06/2007, 06:32 AMIsn't Veigues made by Game-Arts and released in japan by Victor JVC ?

Still I really like the graphics in that.. shame that the mecha is soo big >.>
Veigues is a great game -- the big mecha works as far as gameplay is concerned... unlike, say, the bloated sprite of Rastan Saga II that wasn't given a stage design to match the sprite's proportions (IMO, anyway).
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Keranu

Quote from: stevek666 on 05/05/2007, 02:44 PMI always pronounced it as "Veegz",

AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO.

:)
Right on, same here!
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CrackTiger

I never bothered to actually read the title and have always just called it 'Vegas".
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Keranu

Quote from: TurboXray on 01/02/2014, 09:21 PMAdding PCE console specific layer on top of that, makes for an interesting challenge (no, not a reference to Ys II).
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PCEngineHell

LOL I actually respect Rastan 2 alot and despise Gaygus Super Retarded Fuckbot. Easily one of Game Arts worst titles ever. I played through it once as a teen and never picked it up again cause I hated it so so much.

offsidewing

VEE-GEE-US.

Like Farve, caveat, and Wednesday.

I have no idea how it's pronounced.  I doubt there is anyone left in the world that knows. Scholars maintain that the pronounciation was lost hundreds of years ago.  I could send it to an editor and probably find out the correct pronounciation, but no the definitive one.

Mr Veigues, where are you. . . .

esteban

Quote from: PCEngineHell on 05/08/2007, 12:34 PMLOL I actually respect Rastan 2 alot and despise Gaygus Super Retarded Fuckbot. Easily one of Game Arts worst titles ever. I played through it once as a teen and never picked it up again cause I hated it so so much.
Well, I actually enjoy Rastan Saga 2 -- it's delivered far more enjoyment than I had anticipated. Veigues still trounces it, though. :)
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_Paul

It is pronounced (BAY=)VAY (rhyming with Hay) GUS (although the U should be a little more like in hood and not must)

2X4

Im with stevek666, runinruder and keranu, I've always assumed that it was like veegz.  That doesn't make it right, but I don't think vay gus is necessarily right because we don't always pronounce things exactly the same in the US.  Like how Ys is pronounced ee-su in Japan.
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Turbo D

wow cool, I didn't know that Y's was supposed to be pronounced ee-su  :o
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ParanoiaDragon

Yup, & there's also no apostraphe after the Y in Ys. :)
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_Paul

Quote from: 2X4 on 05/12/2007, 10:08 AMIm with stevek666, runinruder and keranu, I've always assumed that it was like veegz.  That doesn't make it right, but I don't think vay gus is necessarily right because we don't always pronounce things exactly the same in the US.  Like how Ys is pronounced ee-su in Japan.
When going with made up words, the katakana pronunciation is generally an accurate guide to go by. If it was supposed to be pronounced veegz (assuming you mean a 'j' as in 'jam' sound for the g there) it would have probably been spelt BI-JI-ZU, or for a hard g, BI-GU-ZU / BI-GU-SU.

Ys is spelt I-SU in Japan, but not pronounced ee-su, as it is common practice to drop the U in SU at the end of a word.
i.e. DESU ('is')= pronounced DES. It can be pronounced with the U but usually.

I find katakana very handy to find direct pronunciation, excepting of course that original English words will be a little distorted. Mind you, on translation a lot of sounds are altered due to the American's habit for certain vowels. A good example is Pokemon, which should be POK-EH-MON, not POHKEYMON.

2X4

No no, not J, G, a hard g. They don't pronounce the U?  Man, they say english is hard to learn, at least we have one alphabet.  Oh yeah, how can I take your word when you mis-spell spelled?   :wink:
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_Paul

Quote from: 2X4 on 05/13/2007, 08:16 AMNo no, not J, G, a hard g. They don't pronounce the U?  Man, they say english is hard to learn, at least we have one alphabet.  Oh yeah, how can I take your word when you mis-spell spelled?   :wink:
I'm no expert on Japanese but I've seen/heard/tried to translate enough of it to know that's right.

Ande spelt iz u propper wurd soh thre

Quotespell 1       (spěl)  Pronunciation Key 
v.   spelled or spelt (spělt), spell·ing, spells
v.   tr.
To name or write in order the letters constituting (a word or part of a word).

2X4

You have got to be fist f-ing me here.  Spelt is a word?!  I'll be a son of a chicken rustler!  I guess you done spelt 'er right after all!  :lol:  My apologies.
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Seldane

Paul is right. Ys is not pronouced i-su. Even the japanese pronounce it [i:s] (as is the proper pronouncation in English).
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CrackTiger

Quote from: Seldane on 05/13/2007, 11:56 AMPaul is right. Ys is not pronouced i-su. Even the japanese pronounce it [i:s] (as is the proper pronouncation in English).
And Valis isn't Va-ree-su and 'By Hudson' isn't Bah-ee Haw-doh-saw'n!!!.  :dance:
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esteban

For the record, I pronounce it as...

Veigues = VEEGHZ (rhymes with "leagues"... one syllable with hard "g", as in "gullible")

Also, I find it necessary to refer to the game by its entire name ("Veigues Tactical Gladiator") at all times, perhaps because it is a mouthful, perhaps because "tactical gladiator" sounds so badass (if nonsensical).

...AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO.



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Ys = eese (as in geese). The Japanese folks clearly borrowed from Western mythology (if only for the name). Let's put it this way: would it be  "Uh - pah - roe" or simply "Apollo"?
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NecroPhile

Quote from: 2X4 on 05/13/2007, 11:45 AMYou have got to be fist f-ing me here.  Spelt is a word?!  I'll be a son of a chicken rustler!  I guess you done spelt 'er right after all!  :lol:  My apologies.
Don't feel too bad 2x4.  "Spelt" is chiefly a British form for the past (or past participle) of spell.  It's also a term for a type of wheat.  So now you know, and knowing is half the battle.  :wink:
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ParanoiaDragon

Hmm, if I ever start finishing my hip hop projects, maybe I should do an album called Paranoia Dragon the Tactical Gladiator!  That does sound kind cool :D
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cho_aniki

    "Spelt" is also the correct form for us South Africans,  what is the american equivalent?

    Veigues is meant to be pronounced like the english word "vague" with a "z" sound at the end.  In fact the katakana spelling is exactly the same as 
    for the english word vague except for the ズ(z) at the end. 

    I also think the words Tactical Gladiator in the title sound lekker ( South African for very very very good).

_Paul

Just nobody start asking how to pronounce Gotzendeiner.  :-$

Keranu

Quote from: cho_aniki on 05/14/2007, 03:42 PM"Spelt" is also the correct form for us South Africans,  what is the american equivalent?

    Veigues is meant to be pronounced like the english word "vague" with a "z" sound at the end.  In fact the katakana spelling is exactly the same as 
    for the english word vague except for the ズ(z) at the end. 

    I also think the words Tactical Gladiator in the title sound lekker ( South African for very very very good).
I am American, but I still use "spelt" often. I guess the more common American was is "spelled"?
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nat

Growing up my mom was a big health nut.

I've always been familiar with "spelt" as the wheat-grain derivative.

That said, I've always used "spelled" in reference to spelling. "Spelt" just seems weird to me as it brings images of bread to mind.
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termis

ヴェイグス

If you were to use katakana as a guide, I guess it can be read "VAY-GUSS" -- two syllables -- or in a more rapid short-single syllable way like cho_aniki pointed out.  Neither pronunciation would be outright wrong (like "de-su" & "des").  It's definitely using a long "a" vowel, though.

For Japanese dwellers, kinda reminds me of learning how to pronounce the conbini chain サンクス.

And I learned English in the US, and often used "spelt" in writing.  At least for me, it certainly sounds more natural to say "spelt" than "spelled" in speech.

Seldane

Quote from: guest on 05/14/2007, 05:09 PMJust nobody start asking how to pronounce Gotzendeiner.  :-$
As long as you can speak German (or anything that sounds like it) it isn't particularly hard. :P

Götzendeiner... what could it mean though?
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offsidewing

Quote from: Seldane on 05/14/2007, 05:53 PM
Quote from: guest on 05/14/2007, 05:09 PMJust nobody start asking how to pronounce Gotzendeiner.  :-$
As long as you can speak German (or anything that sounds like it) it isn't particularly hard. :P

Götzendeiner... what could it mean though?
Gertz-en-dye-ner.

I believe in old world Bayersch, it literally translates as : "One with a sizably large penis."

Although, 'Goetzen' is a noun I think that means icon or symbol.

Kitsunexus

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_Paul

According to the katakana (which is not always accurate with foreign words) it is Ge-shen-dee-nah

Seldane

Quote from: guest on 05/15/2007, 12:47 PMAccording to the katakana (which is not always accurate with foreign words) it is Ge-shen-dee-nah
That's not even remotely right. :P

Gertz-en-dye-ner, what offsidewing wrote, is correct. At least when pronounced in "american".
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offsidewing

Ahhh, I dug through my box of college stuff and found my Cassel's German/English dictionary.

Götze = Idol  Götzen is plural.

Deiner = is a conjugated form of "your" or "yours" but Gotendeiner is a compound noun and the 'deiner' portion would not (or should not be) used to show possessive.  Although, Japanese to German may be a little more convoluted and it may be the best they could come up with.

I know nuttzing about the game.

For all I know, Götzendeiner could be the equivalent to "all your base are..." in Germany.

offsidewing

Oooo, if it's really spelled "Götzendiener"  pronounced Gertz-en-dee-ner than it literally means Idol Servant, which I would loosely translate as Idol Worshiper.

Since I don't know one thing about the game, I couldn't tell you if that applies to is or not.

Maybe Veigues is French?

CrackTiger

Quote from: offsidewing on 05/15/2007, 05:54 PMOooo, if it's really spelled "Götzendiener"  pronounced Gertz-en-dee-ner than it literally means Idol Servant, which I would loosely translate as Idol Worshiper.

Since I don't know one thing about the game, I couldn't tell you if that applies to is or not.

Maybe Veigues is French?
There's a large statue in the first area, maybe the bad guys are worshipping that?
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jlued686

Quote from: esteban on 05/05/2007, 02:44 PMI always pronounced it as "Veegz",

AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO.

:)
That's how I always pronounced it, too. Isn't that how they pronounced it in one of those Turbo promotional videos?