Censoring / Sanitizing North American Games

esteban · 06/27/2005, 07:56 PM

Quote from: Ninja SpiritIn the Hucard "Photograph Boy" I forgot what the name is in Japanese, but somewhere in the game has a racial charactererization of Michael Jackson. Big red lips and everything.

Excellent, I'll have to find that part of the game (I've only completed the first level or two). This game was already going to be included in my article-- but for the "streaker" and "showering ladies" you take pictures of (and gawd knows what else in the later levels!).

Unfortunately, I don't own the HuCard (perhaps a future purchase) because the instruction manual might have some neat stuff... the cover (check out www.pcecp.com) certainly hints at lots of "unsavory" elements in the game.

I remember someone had taken screenshots of lots of things from this game... though I can't recall the link off-hand.

Ninja Spirit · 07/04/2005, 10:00 AM

For anyone who's played Final Zone II in English (I only seen the clip in Japanese language.)

What did Momoko say to Bowie that made him slap her?

Emerald Rocker · 07/04/2005, 01:34 PM

[The setting is Momoko's house. For some odd reason, the big, balding military man Hansen is in the house. Hansen has no relevance to this scene. Momoko, annoyed that her lover, Bowie, is leaving for another battle, confronts him.]

Momoko: "Why won't you quit your war games?"

Bowie: "Sorry, this happens to be my hobby."

[Bowie slaps Momoko across the face.]

.....

That'll teach a woman to question a man's motives!

Keranu · 07/04/2005, 02:00 PM

Haha, that's awesome.

torgo · 07/06/2005, 11:24 AM

That is still one of the funniest moments EVER. Just because of the long-ass load time right before the slap. My friends and I were dying when we first saw that.

Keranu · 07/06/2005, 08:38 PM

Oh man, I tried beating this game on the 4th and I made it to that part and couldn't stop laughing at how hilarious that was! I love how there is a little pause inbetween what Momoko said and Bowie's slap. Unfortunately I didn't beat the game. I made it to the last level without dying, but I heard fireworks going off, so I had some exploding to do instead (which turned out not happening).

TR0N · 07/07/2005, 05:26 PM

Does any body know the differnce with the, U.S&JPN version of Devil Crush?

I've herd the U.S one is missing the pentagram

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esteban · 07/08/2005, 07:44 PM

Quote from: TronDoes any body know the differnce with the, U.S&JPN version of Devil Crush?

I've herd the U.S one is missing the pentagram :

Ahhh, excellent question! I'm sure the emulation folks can figure this out quickly. I don't own the Japanese HuCard (it's always pretty expensive when I stumble upon it).

twor2005 · 07/09/2005, 12:41 AM

Quote from: TronDoes any body know the differnce with the, U.S&JPN version of Devil Crush?

I've herd the U.S one is missing the pentagram :

Looks like the pentagram is changed to one of those 8 sided stars like the smaller ones on the lower part of the board in both versions. More consistent that way if nothing else. No other differences that I can see.

esteban · 07/09/2005, 01:12 AM

Quote from: twor2005
Quote from: TronDoes any body know the differnce with the, U.S&JPN version of Devil Crush?

I've herd the U.S one is missing the pentagram :

Looks like the pentagram is changed to one of those 8 sided stars like the smaller ones on the lower part of the board in both versions. More consistent that way if nothing else. No other differences that I can see.

Thank you! This was a good find, because I didn't even have "occultism" (though I did mention religion) as a category for my article. If folks want to send me (or post) screenshots, that would be swell. KEEP 'EM COMIN!

CrackTiger · 07/09/2005, 11:21 PM

Quote from: esteban on 04/29/2005, 09:17 PMFYI: There was a pirated HuCard (a multi-card, if you will) that had 4 pc-engine puzzlers on it... including Blodia (boxy boy, drop rock, and can't remember the last one)! That would have been great for portable puzzling on the go!

I have a 4-In-1 Sports Hu Card.

Each time you turn on the system, a game just randomly boots.

It has a raised shell casing, kinda like the flash-rom HuCard.

If I remember correctly, it wouldn't fit in my Supergrafx but it does fit in a GT.

CrackTiger · 07/09/2005, 11:44 PM

Quote from: OldRover on 04/17/2005, 11:59 AM
Quote from: stevek666The nazi party, IIRC, simply took this existing symbol, and slightly altered it (why? would they do this... i can't remember).
They didn't. The swastika is an old Aryan religious symbol. Just as Japan used Shinto as a state religion as part of their agenda in WW2, Hitler and his Nazi party used the swastika and other Aryan symbology as part of theirs. It's merely a religious thing. Of course, since stories are often misconstrued and mistold, especially in countries which fought against the Nazis, the symbol became one of evil rather than the good symbol that it was to millions of people for centuries.

The Nazi's actual logo is of a swastika turning a particular direction, tilted and encased in a circle. Although they also used the tilted swastika without the circle for some three dimensional purposes.

The general swastika has been used all over the world in different variants pretty much throughout recorded history.

http://www.manwoman.net/swastika/swastika.html

The Manji symbol is pretty much as opposite a swastika as possible from the Nazist version.

But some ignorant and ironically biggoted parents/parent groups in the U.S. demanded that the Manji symbol be removed from a japanese Pokemon card.

It was only sold at retail in Japan. Just because it was imported like other Pokemon stuff during the craze, these losers had the card banned in it's own country instead of doing 5 minutes homework and explaining it to their kids.

Just like with other issues that parents try to ban games for instead of educating, or "parenting" their own children themselves.

It's like Cheif Wiggum said to Homer & Marge:

"I really wish you people would solve these problems yourselves. I mean, we can't be "policing" the city all the time".

I think that they should've just slapped an 'M' symbol anywhere that they really needed it(I think they could've just erased it alltogether) in TM/FEOE II: MM and brought it over.

I wouldn't be offended or take it as censorship if they did then or now with the remakes. I'd just be glad it got translated at all and I'm the world's biggest TM/FEOE fan.

Since it would be an english version of the game, it's reasonable to have an english equivelant.

But I also think that the real reason they never did bring it over was because of the amount of work that would've been involved in translating what was refered to at the time as the 'biggest game ever'("over 550 megs!").

esteban · 07/10/2005, 12:11 AM

Quote from: CrackTiger on 07/09/2005, 11:21 PM
Quote from: esteban on 04/29/2005, 09:17 PMFYI: There was a pirated HuCard (a multi-card, if you will) that had 4 pc-engine puzzlers on it... including Blodia (boxy boy, drop rock, and can't remember the last one)! That would have been great for portable puzzling on the go!
I have a 4-In-1 Sports Hu Card.

Each time you turn on the system, a game just randomly boots.

It has a raised shell casing, kinda like the flash-rom HuCard.

If I remember correctly, it wouldn't fit in my Supergrafx but it does fit in a GT.

Ahhh.... what games are on the 4-in-1 sports HuCard? I've never seen that! The Puzzle 4-in-1 is similar to a regular HuCard (not raised) with the cover art from all four games distributed symetrically across 4 quadrants. The auction was for the HuCard only, so there was no packaging or manual. Do you have package / case / manual?

CrackTiger · 07/10/2005, 12:12 AM

I didn't notice if this was posted yet, but the femme versions and expressions in the Bonk games got changed in the North American versions.

Snatcher also got toned down in the Sega CD version, which was for the most part, a port of the PCE version.

The one game that should've been altered for a U.S. audience but wasn't, is Bravoman. What were they thinking bringing it out over here at all(instead of one of the many other great HuCards that needed zero translating)?

I also don't remember if anyone mentioned Natas from Dungeon Explorer 1 & 2. I forget if his named was actually Satan in the original. I also forget if Judas was in the original.

I read through 4 pages before mentioning the middle finger in Cosmic Fantasy 2 and got beaten to it in one of the last posts.

It was unusual for WD to keep CF2 as the title instead of just calling it 'Cosmic Fantasy' like they did with Shockman/Suibubuman 2. That was cool.

But if they weren't responsible for the hour-long boss fight after stepping off the boat, then they should've fixed it.

I still can't remember much of exactly what's been listed already
but Sadler's cigarette was removed from the Genesis version but I'm pretty sure it was kept in the Turbo CD game.

I like how Shouryuken, Hadouken, etc was replaced by "Street Fighter!" in the U.S. arcade version of Fighting Street/SF I.

esteban · 07/10/2005, 12:18 AM

Quote from: CrackTiger on 07/09/2005, 11:44 PM
Quote from: OldRover
Quote from: stevek666The nazi party, IIRC, simply took this existing symbol, and slightly altered it (why? would they do this... i can't remember).
They didn't. The swastika is an old Aryan religious symbol. Just as Japan used Shinto as a state religion as part of their agenda in WW2, Hitler and his Nazi party used the swastika and other Aryan symbology as part of theirs. It's merely a religious thing. Of course, since stories are often misconstrued and mistold, especially in countries which fought against the Nazis, the symbol became one of evil rather than the good symbol that it was to millions of people for centuries
The Nazi's actual logo is of a swastika turning a particular direction, tilted and encased in a circle. Although they also used the tilted swastika without the circle for some three dimensional purposes...

Hah! I never heard about the Pokemon Swasitka fiasco. The same culturally-ignorant folks who demanded for the symbol to be removed from the Japanese Pokemon card would be equally offended by the tacky manji ornament that adorns the wall of my favorite restaurant. I think I mentioned it: it's a super-colorful fiber optic manji that slowly rotates. Awesome.

CrackTiger · 07/10/2005, 12:29 AM

Quote from: esteban on 07/10/2005, 12:11 AMAhhh.... what games are on the 4-in-1 sports HuCard? I've never seen that! The Puzzle 4-in-1 is similar to a regular HuCard (not raised) with the cover art from all four games distributed symetrically across 4 quadrants. The auction was for the HuCard only, so there was no packaging or manual. Do you have package / case / manual?

The only system I have hooked up ready to go right now is my RX and it doesn't want to play it either right now.

As far I can remember, it has USA Basketball, Super(?)Volley Ball, Hot Blood High School Soccer and maybe the dodgeball was also Hotblooded...

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I found it as a lone HuCard at a local fleamarket. It's been taped on the sides to hold the shell in place.

The cool thing is that I've never seen a rom for it online. Maybe it houses 4 seperate roms and thats why they come up randomly.

I'd really like to get ahold of the Famicom HuCard.

esteban · 07/10/2005, 12:42 AM

First of all, CrackTiger, THANKS! You injected some life into this old thread!

Quote from: CrackTigerI didn't notice if this was posted yet, but the femme versions and expressions in the Bonk games got changed in the North American versions.

Ahhhh! I don't know about this: more info please! And feel free to post / email me screenshots!

QuoteSnatcher also got toned down in the Sega CD version, which was for the most part, a port of the PCE version.

Excellent, can you think of any specific examples?

QuoteThe one game that should've been altered for a U.S. audience but wasn't, is Bravoman. What were they thinking bringing it out over here at all(instead of one of the many other great HuCards that needed zero translating)?

I think they were hoping that this would appeal to folks as a distant (very distant) relative of the MegaMan franchise (which was really hot at the time... didn't MM2 just come out? or maybe MM2 came out later and my theory is baseless

)

I've never played Bravoman for too long (perhaps I'm afraid the HuCard will corrode my console if I leave it in it?)... I know there is corny dialogue in it (Hi! I am Japanese telephone box!), but does it ever get "dirty" or "risque"?

QuoteI also don't remember if anyone mentioned Natas from Dungeon Explorer 1 & 2. I forget if his named was actually Satan in the original. I also forget if Judas was in the original.

Oh, I totally forgot about this. IIRC, someone wrote a LETTER TO THE EDITOR about this! I think they were mildly concerned! Hahahahahahaha! I'll post a link if it's from TurboPlay, but it might have been VG&CE or GamePro or something....

QuoteIt was unusual for WD to keep CF2 as the title instead of just calling it 'Cosmic Fantasy' like they did with Shockman/Suibubuman 2. That was cool.

Yeah, same with Valis 2 and Final Zone 2... I always thought that the "2" was kept because it made the games seem more substantial (hey, if they made a sequel, this must be some series!)

QuoteI still can't remember much of exactly what's been listed already
but Sadler's cigarette was removed from the Genesis version but I'm pretty sure it was kept in the Turbo CD game.

Yes, I think you are correct. This is very kool, since this is a Turbo vs. other platform comparison. I wonder if there are any other examples like this (differences across U.S. versions)?

QuoteI like how Shouryuken, Hadouken, etc was replaced by "Street Fighter!" in the U.S. arcade version of Fighting Street/SF I.

I totally don't remember that! Pretty funny

esteban · 07/10/2005, 12:48 AM

Quote from: CrackTigerThe only system I have hooked up ready to go right now is my RX and it doesn't want to play it either right now.

As far I can remember, it has USA Basketball, Super(?)Volley Ball, Hot Blood High School Soccer and maybe the dodgeball was also Hotblooded...

http://members.shaw.ca/justin_cheer/4in1.jpg

I found it as a lone HuCard at a local fleamarket. It's been taped on the sides to hold the shell in place.

The cool thing is that I've never seen a rom for it online. Maybe it houses 4 seperate roms and thats why they come up randomly.

I'd really like to get ahold of the Famicom HuCard.

Wow, thanks for the pic, that's quite interesting! The ROM on that is unique, because there would have to be some sort of code to instruct the console to randomly select a game. The actual ROMs for the games are the same as the standard releases, I'd reckon, but the 4-in-1 definitely has at least a little bit of extra code. When I'm on my other computer, I'll upload a nice pic of the Puzzle 4-in-1 HuCard. You'll dig it, it looks pretty nice, actually.

CrackTiger · 07/10/2005, 01:11 AM

Quote from: esteban on 07/10/2005, 12:42 AM
Quote from: CrackTigerI didn't notice if this was posted yet, but the femme versions and expressions in the Bonk games got changed in the North American versions.
Ahhhh! I don't know about this: more info please! And feel free to post / email me screenshots!

Here you go.

This is the real Bonk-

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Why'd they change it?

esteban · 07/10/2005, 01:14 AM

THANK YOU!!!!! oh man, I love how cute femmebonk is! seriously! so this is Bonk 3 HuCard (JP vs. US), correct? I assume that Bonk 3 CD underwent a similar change when it was released in North America.

But what about Bonk 1 and 2... they were left intact, correct?

At PCECP, I found:

PC Genjin 3 (HuCard)
PC Genjin 3 Taikenban (HuCard) -- Promotional

and no Japanese CD release of PC Genjin 3.

The US version of Bonk 3, apparently, adds a "battle mode" (as well as Redbook audio).

So what's the deal, I am confused!

CrackTiger · 07/10/2005, 01:17 AM

Quote from: stevek666THANK YOU!!!!! oh man, I love how cute femmebonk is! seriously! so this is Bonk 3 HuCard (JP vs. US), correct? I assume that Bonk 3 CD underwent a similar change when it was released in North America.

But what about Bonk 1 and 2... they were left intact, correct?

The first pic is Bonk 2, the second is Bonk 3.

Bonk doesn't femme-it-up after eating meat in the original PC Denjin, but there are probably other differences still.

esteban · 07/10/2005, 01:29 AM

Quote from: CrackTiger
Quote from: stevek666THANK YOU!!!!! oh man, I love how cute femmebonk is! seriously! so this is Bonk 3 HuCard (JP vs. US), correct? I assume that Bonk 3 CD underwent a similar change when it was released in North America.

But what about Bonk 1 and 2... they were left intact, correct?

The first pic is Bonk 2, the second is Bonk 3.

Bonk doesn't femme-it-up after eating meat in the original PC Denjin, but there are probably other differences still.

AWESOME. See my previous post, I added a query about the Bonk / PC Genjin series in general. Again, THANKS

GUTS · 07/10/2005, 02:55 PM

On the swastika thing, the second Goemon game on N64 had the manji (?) symbol turned into hearts for the US version, but in the instruction manual it clearly shows the original symbol. I guess whoever did the manual based it off the Japanese version and didn't know Konami was going to edit it for the US, haha.

twor2005 · 07/10/2005, 02:59 PM

I was just playing through Cadash (local version) and noticed a mermaid with no nipples. The import might provide a little more. This would be consistent with Working Designs' "no nipples" policy.

edit: Nope I was wrong. I'm really digging Cadash by the way. Its like a more serious and challenging Dynastic Hero/Wonder Boy.

esteban · 07/10/2005, 04:49 PM

Quote from: twor2005I was just playing through Cadash (local version) and noticed a mermaid with no nipples. The import might provide a little more. This would be consistent with Working Designs' "no nipples" policy.

edit: Nope I was wrong. I'm really digging Cadash by the way. Its like a more serious and challenging Dynastic Hero/Wonder Boy.

Hey, thanks for checking that out, I appreciate it. Cadash is fun. We need more games that incorporate NINJAS into the typical D&D party.

Quote from: GUTSOn the swastika thing, the second Goemon game on N64 had the manji (?) symbol turned into hearts for the US version, but in the instruction manual it clearly shows the original symbol. I guess whoever did the manual based it off the Japanese version and didn't know Konami was going to edit it for the US, haha.

Ha! You'd think someone would have spotted that before it went to the printers

Keranu · 07/10/2005, 08:20 PM

Does anyone here remember the last town in Exile with all the naked people? I haven't played the Japanese version, but I strongly assume that there is some perverted dialog leaking around, especially when you save that chick because Sadler kind of said something perverted already, but I forgot.

And as far as Bravoman goes, I don't see how people consider it a bad game really. I think it's a pretty straight-forward solid platform game, nothing makes it awful really. Of course I would have rather chose another game to be brought out here, but I am not ashamed of poor Bravoman.

esteban · 07/10/2005, 11:58 PM

Quote from: Keranu on 07/10/2005, 08:20 PMDoes anyone here remember the last town in Exile with all the naked people? I haven't played the Japanese version, but I strongly assume that there is some perverted dialog leaking around, especially when you save that chick because Sadler kind of said something perverted already, but I forgot.

And as far as Bravoman goes, I don't see how people consider it a bad game really. I think it's a pretty straight-forward solid platform game, nothing makes it awful really. Of course I would have rather chose another game to be brought out here, but I am not ashamed of poor Bravoman.

If folks can follow up on Keranu's Exile lead (naked, raunchy folks... that wasn't the island of Baccus or Bakas or Bachus or however they spelled it, was it?)

And I'm going to pull out Bravoman in the next week or two and give it another chance, OK? Seriously.

Keranu · 07/11/2005, 01:32 AM

Awesome, I think you might agree with me Steve about Bravoman since we seem to share similar tastes in the poor man's games. I wouldn't say Bravoman is a generic title too, because it has some unique gameplay bits to it like how Bravoman can stretch out his limbs (this is especially fun when doing multiple jump kicks in air) and the horizontal shooting stages (like Shubibin Man 2). Also the art style in the game is pretty original if you ask me, along with the hilarious "BRAVO!" yell every time he punches.

twor2005 · 07/11/2005, 04:47 AM

Who can forget Van's uncle: "Is that a spear or are you just happy to see me?"

Keranu · 07/11/2005, 05:50 AM

Haha, is that in CF2? I don't quite remember that one.

akamichi · 07/11/2005, 07:20 AM

Quote from: KeranuAnd as far as Bravoman goes, I don't see how people consider it a bad game really. I think it's a pretty straight-forward solid platform game, nothing makes it awful really. Of course I would have rather chose another game to be brought out here, but I am not ashamed of poor Bravoman.

Bravoman was a very popular arcade game in Japan when it came out. I'm not sure what the appeal was for them, but I thought the game was interesting for the time.

It's pretty surprising how many arcade translations are on the PCE.

Keranu · 07/11/2005, 08:47 AM

Yes the PCE has tons of arcade ports and they are all pretty close and great if you ask me.

OldRover · 07/11/2005, 09:48 AM

In Exile, the isle of Eleusis does indeed feature many nude people. Eleusis is based on a tropical island from history which was exceptionally hot, so people didn't usually wear clothing (it wasn't necessary) and when they did, it was very light clothing (light robes, etc). Both Exile and Exile II had locations based on actual locations of the world (Exile II was more obvious in this respect). But there are no "perverted" comments in the English version of the game (I wouldn't know about the Japanese version since I don't know a whole lot of Japanese, plus I don't even have the Japanese version). Yes, they're naked, but calling them "raunchy" is downright mean.

That would be like me calling everyone who showers "raunchy" because you're naked when you do it.

I don't understand why today's society has such a problem with people being nude...

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Ya, that comment about the spear is from Cosmic Fantasy 2, and it's right in the beginning of the game before Van goes to the tree.

lord_cack · 07/11/2005, 11:03 AM

Quote from: nodtveidtIn Exile, the isle of Eleusis does indeed feature many nude people. Eleusis is based on a tropical island from history which was exceptionally hot, so people didn't usually wear clothing (it wasn't necessary) and when they did, it was very light clothing (light robes, etc). Both Exile and Exile II had locations based on actual locations of the world (Exile II was more obvious in this respect). But there are no "perverted" comments in the English version of the game (I wouldn't know about the Japanese version since I don't know a whole lot of Japanese, plus I don't even have the Japanese version). Yes, they're naked, but calling them "raunchy" is downright mean. That would be like me calling everyone who showers "raunchy" because you're naked when you do it. I don't understand why today's society has such a problem with people being nude...

/exile-nude-women.png

OH yeah, we can have drugs, gangs, and people getting beaten bloody....but we better not see any nipples or forget it....see thats america....we accept violence but not nature....

lord_cack · 07/11/2005, 11:37 AM

Quote from: KeranuAwesome, I think you might agree with me Steve about Bravoman since we seem to share similar tastes in the poor man's games. I wouldn't say Bravoman is a generic title too, because it has some unique gameplay bits to it like how Bravoman can stretch out his limbs (this is especially fun when doing multiple jump kicks in air) and the horizontal shooting stages (like Shubibin Man 2). Also the art style in the game is pretty original if you ask me, along with the hilarious "BRAVO!" yell every time he punches.

I think that Bravoman is alot like Rayman...a fore father of Rayman of sorts.......only Bravoman's body parts stretch not just hands that go flying across the screen....

esteban · 07/11/2005, 03:24 PM

Quote from: OldRoverYes, they're naked, but calling them "raunchy" is downright mean. That would be like me calling everyone who showers "raunchy" because you're naked when you do it. I don't understand why today's society has such a problem with people being nude...

I know! I'm sorry, I was speaking in the voice of the "Mr. and Mrs. Censor" when I said that! Of course I totally agree with you

. My personal views on this, and many other related issues, are far-out-to-the-left progressive (I might upset some folks here, so I'll keep it to that... though my viewpoints will be revealed when I finish my article).

QuoteYa, that comment about the spear is from Cosmic Fantasy 2, and it's right in the beginning of the game before Van goes to the tree.

This I actually remembered! THANK YOU FOR THE SCREENSHOTS from Exile and CF2, by the way!!!!!!!!!!

OldRover · 07/11/2005, 05:14 PM

Quote from: stevek666I know! I'm sorry, I was speaking in the voice of the "Mr. and Mrs. Censor" when I said that! Of course I totally agree with you . My personal views on this, and many other related issues, are far-out-to-the-left progressive (I might upset some folks here, so I'll keep it to that... though my viewpoints will be revealed when I finish my article).

Ah okay, that makes more sense now.

Thanks for the clarity. I'm pretty left-wing myself, the difference is that I could care less if it offends people...mainly because the right-wing brings about censorship and propaganda that displeases me, and if they're not going to change their closed-minded ideals then I'm not going to change my open-minded ideals.

esteban · 07/11/2005, 07:45 PM

Quote from: OldRoverAh okay, that makes more sense now. Thanks for the clarity. I'm pretty left-wing myself, the difference is that I could care less if it offends people...mainly because the right-wing brings about censorship and propaganda that displeases me, and if they're not going to change their closed-minded ideals then I'm not going to change my open-minded ideals.

. Ask Keranu about some of the message board scuffles I've been in concerning politcal / social issues -- with fellow gamers, of course. I'm pretty sure he witnessed some of them (but he did not partake). Naturally, it turned out that the folks I respected the most (videogame-wise), turned out to be pretty darn conservative. Ahhhhhh, the craziness.

Keranu · 07/11/2005, 07:57 PM

twor2005 · 07/11/2005, 09:20 PM

Steve you might want to avoid lengthy conversations with the guy who did the ys translations if you don't want them spoiled by association.

Heck I can't even get the things to work. But I'm sure thats my own lack of skills, and blank cds. Ys complete looks to die for too. And I could deal with Ys 4 and xak.

CrackTiger · 07/11/2005, 11:28 PM

Quote from: twor2005Steve you might want to avoid lengthy conversations with the guy who did the ys translations if you don't want them spoiled by association.

Heck I can't even get the things to work. But I'm sure thats my own lack of skills, and blank cds. Ys complete looks to die for too. And I could deal with Ys 4 and xak.

He even put in a line in Xak III by one of the townspeople in the first city saying something like "Whats that? You're a Republican? Good for you! Better than being a disgusting lowlife Democrat!" ...or something.

Its fine by me though(I would've prefered lowlife politician personally...), since he(along with several others) is doing such a huge service for the gaming community in general, let alone PCE fans.

I don't care what townspeople say, if it doesn't further the quest then a translator can put anything short of hatred for them and I'll still appreciate it.

As for the patches, you need to follow his instructions exactly, but he's such a nice guy he'll do what he can to help you through it either way if you contact him.

GUTS · 07/12/2005, 12:22 AM

Haha that was awesome in Xak III, I remember being all WTF, but it was so unexpected and out of place it was actually pretty funny.

Keranu · 07/12/2005, 02:41 AM

I never caught that line! Haha, and yeah Nightwolve can get very serious about stuff like that in conversations, so I just avoid it, especially since I hate talking about politics and what not.

twor2005 · 07/12/2005, 04:49 AM

Yeah I don't really give a fuck, I just want to play some games

Preferably with something funny done to them for the US release.

esteban · 07/12/2005, 01:39 PM

Quote from: twor2005Steve you might want to avoid lengthy conversations with the guy who did the ys translations if you don't want them spoiled by association.

Good to know

. I'll stick to videogame-only topics.

Quote from: twor2005Yeah I don't really give a fuck, I just want to play some games

Hey, you can do BOTH!

. Don't be another TV Casualty! ;)

esteban · 07/12/2005, 01:57 PM

Quote from: HackTigerHe even put in a line in Xak III by one of the townspeople in the first city saying something like "Whats that? You're a Republican? Good for you! Better than being a disgusting lowlife Democrat!" ...or something.

Its fine by me though (I would've prefered lowlife politician personally...), since he (along with several others) is doing such a huge service for the gaming community in general, let alone PCE fans.

I don't care what townspeople say, if it doesn't further the quest then a translator can put anything short of hatred for them and I'll still appreciate it.

As for the patches, you need to follow his instructions exactly, but he's such a nice guy he'll do what he can to help you through it either way if you contact him.

Awesome, thanks for the info! Myself, I'd prefer to have progressive, left-wing agit-prop in games, since we're overwhelmed with conservative, right-wing ideology as it is. But this line in Xak is FUNNY! And it's such a general statement, it's not bad at all. I've played old text-adventures (hacked versions) in which lots of homophobic, racist and misogynistic content was added. That was crazy.

One of these days I'll figure out how to patch games (I mostly play on consoles) so I can play Xak and Ys IV!

TR0N · 07/12/2005, 06:18 PM

Quote from: twor2005
Quote from: TronDoes any body know the differnce with the, U.S&JPN version of Devil Crush?

I've herd the U.S one is missing the pentagram :

Looks like the pentagram is changed to one of those 8 sided stars like the smaller ones on the lower part of the board in both versions. More consistent that way if nothing else. No other differences that I can see.

Well that clears it up when ever i get a copy. It won't matter... which version i get then

TR0N · 07/12/2005, 06:33 PM

Quote from: stevek666One of these days I'll figure out how to patch games (I mostly play on consoles) so I can play Xak and Ys IV!

Not to change the subject i got free copy of... Ys IV from a friend with the english patch.

I'll say this every body should try it,it's worth while to play it in english

TurboHuC6280 · 07/12/2005, 09:57 PM

Quote from: KeranuI never caught that line! Haha, and yeah Nightwolve can get very serious about stuff like that in conversations, so I just avoid it, especially since I hate talking about politics and what not.

I certainly appreciate the guy's work, but I have a lot of trouble taking a guy seriously when he has a picture of Ronald Reagan as his avatar. It's a bit too radical for my tastes.

Have to say I'd vote for Ronnie over Dubya any day though.

Emperor Megas · 09/09/2005, 11:22 AM

Quote from: Ninja SpiritFor anyone who's played Final Zone II in English (I only seen the clip in Japanese language.)

What did Momoko say to Bowie that made him slap her?

It wasn't quite as raw/uncalled for as many here remember it. Bowie actually slaps Momoko because she says that he's being manipulated by the military and that "Someday, you'll end up like my brother", who by all accounts died right in front of them in an explosion.

Velda/Verda and Bowie were comrades-in-arms and clearly close personal friends. Bowie was pissed because he felt Momoko dishonored her brother's sacrifice and loyalty to the military.