Question on PCE versions of games versus US versions

[jeffg]

I am interested in getting Air Zonk, Bonk 3, and Terraforming.

Out of those do they all play the same US vs PCE version and would i be missing out on much if I go the cheap route and get the PCE versions?

[Tatsujin]

Bonk 3 aka PC Genjin 3 is Hucard only (in japan). except the case you have an adaptor, it won't work on a US System.

the other two won't give you any troubles. in contrary, going the (cheap) japanese CD-shumps way can be only WIN.

[nat]

Terraforming is identical between regions. Air Zonk (PC Denjin) and Bonk 3 (PC Genjin 3) are practically identical for all intents and purposes, save for the graphical behavior of Bonk/Zonk when "powered up."

And you'll need a region adapter for PC Denjin to work on a US system as well as for PC Genjin 3. Terraforming is a CD game and doesn't have region lockout.

[jeffg]

cool, i snagged a pc engine duo-r for my cd playing anyways, so i am covered there.

That sounds great, i will just save a bunch of cash then and go JP way

What other PCE shmups do you guys recommend, and what English friendly PCE games are good?

[Tatsujin]

oh, sorry nat. sure you're right about the air zonk. lol, i had super air zonk aka cd denjin in mind. my bad!

[geise]

Haha...yeah Air Zonk.  When you power up with the cow it's definitely different in the Japanese one. 

[Mathius]

cool, i snagged a pc engine duo-r for my cd playing anyways, so i am covered there.

That sounds great, i will just save a bunch of cash then and go JP way

What other PCE shmups do you guys recommend, and what English friendly PCE games are good?

Parodious Da! (Hu-Card)
Spriggan (CD-ROM2)
Download (Hu-Card)
Dracula X (Super CD-ROM2) *expensive* You might be familiar with this one by now
Salamander a.k.a Life Force (Hu-Card)

That's all I can think of off the top of my head.

EDIT: Stuck Drac X in there just for the hell of it.

[Tatsujin]

sure both of the Thunders must be in there ;)

[Mathius]

sure both of the Thunders must be in there ;)

Yes-indeedy

[RR1980]

how about Final Soldier, Gradius. Twin Bees?

[rag-time4]

cool, i snagged a pc engine duo-r for my cd playing anyways, so i am covered there.

That sounds great, i will just save a bunch of cash then and go JP way

What other PCE shmups do you guys recommend, and what English friendly PCE games are good?

Parodious Da! (Hu-Card)
Spriggan (CD-ROM2)
Download (Hu-Card)
Dracula X (Super CD-ROM2) *expensive* You might be familiar with this one by now
Salamander a.k.a Life Force (Hu-Card)

That's all I can think of off the top of my head.

EDIT: Stuck Drac X in there just for the hell of it.

Image Fight will quite possibly give you the most bang for the buck of any game in the whole library. Image Fight 2 is awesome as well, but a little more expensive. Well worth it if you like the first.

[Tatsujin]

how about Final Soldier, Gradius. Twin Bees?

not bad, but not top as well.

better go with solder blade, salamander, gradius II and parodius da! instead

sure i like gradius 1 very much as well.

and get you a Star Parodia!

[Mathius]

how about Final Soldier, Gradius. Twin Bees?

not bad, but not top as well.

better go with solder blade, salamander, gradius II and parodius da! instead

sure i like gradius 1 very much as well.

and get you a Star Parodia!

Ah, Star Parodier. I just got that one today. IMHO it's not as good as say Spriggan, but it's a great shootie.

EDIT- @ Rag-time4  Is Image Fight that good? Explain please.

[rag-time4]

how about Final Soldier, Gradius. Twin Bees?

not bad, but not top as well.

better go with solder blade, salamander, gradius II and parodius da! instead

sure i like gradius 1 very much as well.

and get you a Star Parodia!

Ah, Star Parodier. I just got that one today. IMHO it's not as good as say Spriggan, but it's a great shootie.

EDIT- @ Rag-time4  Is Image Fight that good? Explain please.

Yes, it really is that good. You get a game that's as fun as just about any $50+ game for 10-20 bucks.

It's got some absolutely killer bosses, and it's a really hard game overall. The thing is though that you get so much play control with the red pods that there is a perfect balance to the difficulty. I never felt like it was difficult in a cheap way. When I got my butt kicked a few times in a row I would always get a feeling that I could get better and rarely felt frustrated.

Here are a couple reviews:

http://www.videogameden.com/hucard.htm?imf (I helped with this one)
https://pcengine-fx.com/reviews/duomazov/2010/02/image-fight.html

[Mathius]

That's it! I am getting Image Fight!

[RR1980]

hmm english friendly PCE games....how about Genji Tsushin Agedama and Jackie Chan?

[rag-time4]

That's it! I am getting Image Fight!

By the way, there is a high-resolution-mode code for Image Fight (it's an Irem game!), and there is also a code that lets you play as Mr. Heli - who is the star of another cool Irem game!

EDIT~ Another interesting tidbit, which is what really got me interested in the game, is that according to the producer of Radiant Silvergun, Image Fight was a key design inspration. (wikipedia link) I think that to have that status, especially for a game as highly regarded as Radiant Silvergun, any inspirational game would have to be a special one.

[Mathius]

That's it! I am getting Image Fight!

By the way, there is a high-resolution-mode code for Image Fight (it's an Irem game!), and there is also a code that lets you play as Mr. Heli - who is the star of another cool Irem game!

EDIT~ Another interesting tidbit, which is what really got me interested in the game, is that according to the producer of Radiant Silvergun, Image Fight was a key design inspration. (wikipedia link) I think that to have that status, especially for a game as highly regarded as Radiant Silvergun, any inspirational game would have to be a special one.

Oh yeah, we were discussing that in the newly bumped thread.

Image Fight the inspiration for Radient Silvergun? Didn't see that coming...

[Tatsujin]

if you can call yourself an owner of either a Playstation or Saturn, you have to get Image Fight on one those systems as well. Otherwise, the pce would do just fine

[RR1980]

if you can call yourself an owner of either a Playstation or Saturn, you have to get Image Fight on one those systems as well. Otherwise, the pce would do just fine

oops I better get myself one for the Saturn and/or PCE then! hehe

[rag-time4]

if you can call yourself an owner of either a Playstation or Saturn, you have to get Image Fight on one those systems as well. Otherwise, the pce would do just fine

I really want that playstation version, but haven't bought it yet due to price.

[Mathius]

if you can call yourself an owner of either a Playstation or Saturn, you have to get Image Fight on one those systems as well. Otherwise, the pce would do just fine

Are there any major diffs? If not I would rather have the PCE version just because I am an NEC nut. ;)

[Tatsujin]

SS/PSX Image Fight is 100% arcade accurate (sort of). the PCE one is quite down-trimmed, compared. It's not like R-Type, of which the PCE one is almost looking like its arcade pendant.

and in additional, you will get a 2nd game on the disc -> X-Multipy. which is IMO, one of the weirdest, strangest & coolest shooter together, Irem ever did. check Yu0tube for vids. The music is awesome as well

[Mathius]

SS/PSX Image Fight is 100% arcade accurate (sort of). the PCE one is quite down-trimmed, compared. It's not like R-Type, of which the PCE one is almost looking like its arcade pendant.

and in additional, you will get a 2nd game on the disc -> X-Multipy. which is IMO, one of the weirdest, strangest & coolest shooter together, Irem ever did. check Yu0tube for vids. The music is awesome as well

Really?!? I didn't even know there was an arcade version. Japanese only maybe?

Man, this might be a difficult choice. Are the 32-Bit versions import only? If so I know where I can get one of those "import discs" for my PSX locally for about $15.

[rag-time4]

SS/PSX Image Fight is 100% arcade accurate (sort of). the PCE one is quite down-trimmed, compared. It's not like R-Type, of which the PCE one is almost looking like its arcade pendant.

and in additional, you will get a 2nd game on the disc -> X-Multipy. which is IMO, one of the weirdest, strangest & coolest shooter together, Irem ever did. check Yu0tube for vids. The music is awesome as well

Really?!? I didn't even know there was an arcade version. Japanese only maybe?

Man, this might be a difficult choice. Are the 32-Bit versions import only? If so I know where I can get one of those "import discs" for my PSX locally for about $15.

Yes, the 32-Bit versions are import only, and the playstation version is pretty expensive.

Also yes, the arcade version was Japan only.

Personally I haven't tried the playstation or saturn versions, but I know for a fact that the PCE version gives you the benefit of selectable difficulty level.

You might be able to find a complete copy of Image Fight for the same price as the "import disc" you would need to load the playstation version.

[Tatsujin]

I'm not sure about the Image Fight Arcade, could be oversea released. Image Fight Console = NTSC-J only

[rag-time4]

I'm not sure about the Image Fight Arcade, could be oversea released. Image Fight Console = NTSC-J only

On second thought, I'm not 100% sure if Image Fight arcade was released in the U.S., but I don't think it was. The NES version is the only U.S. version that I think we got. (lame version, btw)

[Opethian]

Image Fight II is a beast! and penalty stage on the original Image Fight is brutal.

[rag-time4]

Image Fight II is a beast! and penalty stage on the original Image Fight is brutal.

How would you compare the penalty zone in Image Fight I to the penalty zone in Image Fight II?