Are PC Engine games sealed with a Y-fold?

[yxlplig]

I've got this sealed copy of Dracula X. I suspect that it's a PCEWorks reprint because it's shrink wrapped instead of sealed with a y-fold. Was the Y-fold standard in Japan during this time period?

It looks so real otherwise. There's one line of text that is maybe slightly blurry, but I'd need to reference an original to say that it's not supposed to look that way. This is an impeccable forgery if it is one.

[ClodBusted]

I don't know about any seals, but:
Pics, please.

[Digi.k]

I don't know about any seals, but:
Pics, please.

[o.pwuaioc]

I've got this sealed copy of Dracula X. I suspect that it's a PCEWorks reprint because it's shrink wrapped instead of sealed with a y-fold. Was the Y-fold standard in Japan during this time period?

It looks so real otherwise. There's one line of text that is maybe slightly blurry, but I'd need to reference an original to say that it's not supposed to look that way. This is an impeccable forgery if it is one.

Post a pic of the blurry line, too, and we can cross check it with ours.

[CrackTiger]

People shrinkwrap games all the time. Even if a seller describes it as used, there are enough people out there who will pay a premium for wrapping.

All you know for sure is that it isn't factory sealed by the publisher of the original game.

[NecroPhile]

I wanna say they were all y-folds.

Open it up and find out for sure.  Sealed games are for losers. 

[xcrement5x]

Y-fold with tear line was standard, except for some double-cased games which were done with like cellophane type wrap.  Pictures would probably help though.

[SignOfZeta]

You're staring at 2 year old shrink wrap on a 25 year old game and somehow hoodwinked us all into making it into a thread. You fucker!

[o.pwuaioc]

You're staring at 2 year old shrink wrap on a 25 year old game and somehow hoodwinked us all into making it into a thread. You fucker!

The real question isn't whether this is new shrinkwrap or not, but is this a new PCE Works game or not.

Like NecroPhile said, open it up, or send it back telling the seller that he scammed you (if you paid for a "new" Dracula X).

[SignOfZeta]

FWIW, in my experience actual shrink wrap on almost anything from Japan is pretty rare. They looooooove using tons of plastic, don't get me wrong, but they have more sophisticated methods most of the time.

[bob]

lol
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PCE-Akumajou-Dracula-X-PC-Engine-Works-Belmont-Survival-Kit-Ltd-Edition-NEW-/232084306481?hash=item36094d7a31:g:3DsAAOSwLnBX25vD

examine the fake one...

https://pceworks.wordpress.com/2016/11/02/akumajo-dracula-x/

[CrackTiger]

When PCE games in large cases were shrinkwrapped, they used a heavy duty material that I've only seen used in North America for heavy objects.

Maybe it was game shops or distributors in Japan who were wrapping mint open copies, but it still stands out compated to the kind of shrinkwrap that music stores used over here.

[yxlplig]

Ok, here are some pictures. The line in question is the © 1986 1993 Konami part. The copyright symbol is cut off and the whole line just looks slightly suspect.

https://imgur.com/a/blgGY

[SignOfZeta]

Fake.

Btw, I'm not sure if you picked up on the conversation but the shrink is %100 positive not original so you can rip it off and get all the pics you want. The front book looks reproduced to me, but the CDs are always even easier to authenticate so just show us that.

[CrackTiger]

Don't worry about the shrink wrap, Dracula X came with folded celophane and same peel away strip as other PCE games.

PCEWorks/Fudoh/PCEngine25thAnniv./Tobias/HudsonSoftofJapan/Animeforever's celophane wrapped games have the strip in the wrong position.

https://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/sapcomp1.html


As for the rest, it should be obvious in person, as all of Tobias' bootlegs feature noticeably different materials, print quality, finishing, etc than real PCE/Mega-CD/Saturn/etc games.

The cases look nothing like Japanese or North American jewel cases from bitd. The paper is super thick and overly glossy and the printing looks unprofessional.

[Gredler]

[yxlplig]

Ok, this is clearly fake once you open it up. It says PCE Works on the disc itself and on the back of the manual. The white plastic tray is all wrong. The paper everything is printed on is different and so on. I still think whoever makes these is a bit of a prick for not putting such markings on the outside of the packaging.

A shrinkwrap seal, or specifically a potential re-seal is not definitive proof of a fake game. Without a known original to compare to and without opening the game, the strongest tell that this was fake is that the manual is a little too thick and the cd tray was maybe a little too white.

[o.pwuaioc]

Hopefully you only payed $50 for it...

[yxlplig]

I don't intentionally buy sealed games and very rarely buy games one at a time. It was part of a large lot and was the only sealed game. Obviously this thing looks suspicious but if you saw the other games that were part of this lot I think anyone would entertain the possibility that this game could be real.

[geise]

Please tell me you bought the lot cause it had a bunch of other stuff, not just cause it had Dracula X. Please burn anything you have that says pce works. Don't help spread the virus.

Also, welcome to the forums.

[Kaimega]

Lot or not, that is depressing that, not only these still are in large circulation, but that there are still some sellers won't actually state if the copy is legitimate or not

[SignOfZeta]

What's amazing to me is that these boots aren't even that old and already people are getting them in lots not knowing what they are. Don't any of these people own a game for more than a month?

I'm imagining right now a science fiction story where a...social disease...figures out how to live on musty paper for a while thereby making it possible for a massive explosion of both evolution and population in the basements and closets and mancaves and convention halls and pawn shops and post offices and comic shops and more because of how rapidly these kids cycle through their collections.

Keep it in your pants guys for fucks sake. I DONT WANT TO GET "THE PONG"!











("The Pong" is a Videogame Transmitted Disease and like most VTDs is transmitted by unprotected game-to-game contact. The best way to avoid VTDs is to never buy any games. If you've bought lots of games and don't have any VTDs now, stop buying games. If you must buy games then keep it to a minimum (ie: no cruising for "sets"). Be straightforward with any "clients". Explain to them honestly how much collecting you've done and how much your collection has been around before any exchange of games or game-to-game contact. If you must exchange lots examine each game individually for signs of VTDs and consider using a dental dam.)

[NecroPhile]

Heh, post of the week.

[LostFlunky]

Heh, post of the week.

Just about any week!

[esteban]

DAT PONG, though.



DAT PONG is worth it.

[ClodBusted]

("The Pong" is a Videogame Transmitted Disease and like most VTDs is transmitted by unprotected game-to-game contact. The best way to avoid VTDs is to never buy any games. If you've bought lots of games and don't have any VTDs now, stop buying games. If you must buy games then keep it to a minimum (ie: no cruising for "sets"). Be straightforward with any "clients". Explain to them honestly how much collecting you've done and how much your collection has been around before any exchange of games or game-to-game contact. If you must exchange lots examine each game individually for signs of VTDs and consider using a dental dam.)

Easy dealt with, keep them sealed for protection. Also, don't buy used games.