Magical Chase BOXED!!! on Ebay

[RoyVegas]

Roy- you most CERTAINLY did - several times in fact - in shout- say you intended to sell it for what you paid for it - that you didn't want to take a loss but that you didn't want to overcharge for it.

and how can you contrbute Roy?  Your first day here you were trying to buy two Magical Chases- one sealed to leave rotting on your shelf- then turned around saying "I see the light now" or whatever- that you only needed one copy- thanks guys- thanks for showing me the way etc.  Next thing I know you're trying to catch a 3rd copy on this thread here- and when I call you on it you confront me in shout saying oh I "intended" to sell it for what I paid to a forum member- to help somebody out -- when I called you on using "intended" in past tense you acted like I was overrreacting- that it only mean you intended in the past and that you still intended now.  Now we see it's all crap- and now you're trying to say that 400 IS the correct price for the loose game?  Why not tell us how much YOU paid for it loose Roy- and be honest because you already told several members here how much you paid for it- not that I'd believe you by now anyway.  All this and also including that you were saying in shout that the real reason I was acting "shitty" was because I was jealous of you.  You got this high opinion of yourself Roy- you think I can't afford the game?  I can afford the game fine- even at this price- but I'm not gonna pay more than its worth- for several reasons- one being that it'll just drive the price higher and higher.  

As for you not being the only one who thinks my attitude sucks- no shit.  Thing is Roy- the handful of people here who "think" my attitude sucks compare not with the bushels of people here who KNOW you're a jerkoff.

I don't recall saying I would sell it for what I paid for it but I did say that I wouldn't take a loss on it.

One sealed to leave rotting on my shelf?  If your so interested in games no rotting on a shelf then why does Daisakusen show you having 259 games rotting on your shelf?  Playing them all at once?  Maybe you should pump all of those back into the community since your so worried about what I do with ONE of my games.  Hypocricy is amazing with you.  Yeah I said I saw the light, meaning that I didn't need a sealed copy, only a useable one.  Do you see me with a sealed copy?  Sure Sinistron, I would buy a 3rd copy and a 256th if I found them cheap.  What an Idiot I would be for trying to make a profit.  I must be stupid in this economy to try to make a few extra dollars for myself.

I never said $400 was the correct price for it.  It's up there for $400 to see if anyone is dumb enough to bite on it.  If they dont, thats why there is a best offer, so people who actually want to pay a fair price can pay what THEY think is fair.

How much did I pay for it loose?  $175 and I could care less if you believe it or not.

I have no high opinion of myself Sinistron.  Why did I say you were jealous?  Because someone said to me to not worry about your bullshit on the forums, "It's just jealousy".  Your the one that must have the high opinion of yourself.  You treat people like shit, why you try to push people down I'll never know.

I never said you can't afford the game and I could care less if you can.  You saying your only going to pay what its worth is fair enough.  What something is worth is what people are willing to pay for it.  If you think its worth $100 then good luck getting one.  Sure, they're out there and you might get one, you might not.

Fact of the matter is, your attitude is no good.  It's more then a few people that think so.  If its people like YOU that think I am a jerkoff Sini, I wont lose any sleep over it.

[Sinistron]

Even more hysterical is how Roy says on his auction that the next time you see a Magical Chase it may be double the price- Roy is suggesting that the next time we see Magical Chase loose it may very well go for $800.

"This game only pops up on eBay about once every six months and the price goes higher and higher every time.  The next time you see one it might be double the price."

So what was it about saying you don't expect it to sell for 400$ again?

[RoyVegas]

Well I know of some Magical Chase games that have sold not too long ago and not on ebay for far less than $400.  That one is loose.  I sure as hell doubt that you paid $400 bucks for a loose either.

I surely didn't pay $400 for it.  Nor do I expect to get that for it.  I expect to sell it for a best offer that is driven by what someone is willing to pay for it.  I'm not forcing anyone to Buy it Now, nor am I forcing anyone to put in an offer.  If I was only willing to sell it for $400 it would be a Buy it Now only, which its not.

Also Roy- MAJOR bullshit going on saying you don't expect it to sell at 400- you know damn well it's highly likely (which is only why you LISTED IT AT 400)- especially with one with a box and manual currently locked in for at least 350$ more.

Too funny!!!!  Are you kidding me?  If it sells for $400 then thats what the market says it's worth.  Wake up man!!  i can't help what people are willing to pay.  The Best offer is there for a reason, in case the market says its not worth $400.  Holy hell, I might make a few dollars, what a fucking dick I am!  Go yell at the buyers man. lol

[RoyVegas]

Even more hysterical is how Roy says on his auction that the next time you see a Magical Chase it may be double the price- Roy is suggesting that the next time we see Magical Chase loose it may very well go for $800.

"This game only pops up on eBay about once every six months and the price goes higher and higher every time.  The next time you see one it might be double the price."

So what was it about saying you don't expect it to sell for 400$ again?

What should I do when I want to sell something Sini?  Should I say, here is my overpriced game, if you would like to pay this inflated price then you must be nuts.

Advertising it to try to make it look good, wow how stupid I must be to actually try to make it look good in its ad.  Why would I want to make it look good to a buyer?  Horrible, god I'm just horrible! Once again you must be kidding right? 

The points aren't even valid...  You're just trying to drum up the troops and get people pissed off at me...  Cmon Sini try to get the wagons circling and get people to jump on your bandwagon.  Yeee HAwwww!!!

[geise]

You know, anyone that knows of the TG-16 knows about Magical Chase.  The way it's worded obviously makes it sound like it's some guy just looking to squeeze the money out of someone that wants it.  So say I would like it and make an offer for 250 would you sell it to me?  You said you only paid 175 for it.  That means you get a 75 dollar profit.  You'd be helping out a member.  You'd be there for the community.

[Sinistron]

One sealed to leave rotting on my shelf?  If your so interested in games no rotting on a shelf then why does Daisakusen show you having 259 games rotting on your shelf?  Playing them all at once?  Maybe you should pump all of those back into the community since your so worried about what I do with ONE of my games.  Hypocricy is amazing with you. 

Yeah- amazing hypocrisy- only that- ANYONE that you ask here will tell you that I play the shit out of my games.  I didn't clear 85 of my games- racing with others here to clear 100 first- by letting my games fester on a shelf- which is the EXACT reason that I buy the hucards LOOSE Roy- for easy access.  Now- what was your point?

Yeah I said I saw the light, meaning that I didn't need a sealed copy, only a useable one.  Do you see me with a sealed copy?  Sure Sinistron, I would buy a 3rd copy and a 256th if I found them cheap.  What an Idiot I would be for trying to make a profit.  I must be stupid in this economy to try to make a few extra dollars for myself.

An idiot? No. I don't remember calling you such.  I called you a JERKOFF.

I never said $400 was the correct price for it.  It's up there for $400 to see if anyone is dumb enough to bite on it.  If they dont, thats why there is a best offer, so people who actually want to pay a fair price can pay what THEY think is fair.

How much did I pay for it loose?  $175 and I could care less if you believe it or not.

Right- ok.  So- if "The price of Magical Chase is what the market pays for it Sinistron, not just what YOU personally think it's worth"- as you said yourself- then WHY are you charging FOUR HUNDRED BIN when you just said yourself you paid 175 for it?  And furthermore- why are you trying to drive people into a frenzy to make them believe that the next time they see it will be EIGHT HUNDRED DOLLARS LOOSE?

I have no high opinion of myself Sinistron.  Why did I say you were jealous?  Because someone said to me to not worry about your bullshit on the forums, "It's just jealousy".  Your the one that must have the high opinion of yourself.  You treat people like shit, why you try to push people down I'll never know.

This is quite the conundrum here Roy- I'm jealous- and yet I have a high opinion of myself?  Which is it Roy?  If you're referring to Zeon on shout when he said in front of me for you not to take me seriously- the reasoning he gave was that I speak my mind- not that I'm "jealous".  I have 259 games- as you point out- and I'm jealous of a guy that has maybe two japanese titles?  What are you out of your mind?

I never said you can't afford the game and I could care less if you can.  You saying your only going to pay what its worth is fair enough.  What something is worth is what people are willing to pay for it.  If you think its worth $100 then good luck getting one.  Sure, they're out there and you might get one, you might not.

Again- you yourself paid 175 for it- so you know what it's worth (though even that was overpriced for a loose)- so why you keep going on about how deluded I am on how much it's worth is beyond me- and you keep putting numbers in my mouth- 50$, 100$...  You love trying to stuff words in my mouth Roy.  The only Roy who'll stuff my mouth is Roy Roger's- and you don't look like a sourdough bacon cheeseburger.

Fact of the matter is, your attitude is no good.  It's more then a few people that think so.  If its people like YOU that think I am a jerkoff Sini, I wont lose any sleep over it. 

Thanks for the "facts" Roy.  I'll make sure to file them away under "Roy's Truths", right next to the file labelled "Nintega's Researched Opinions on Foreign Cultures".

[RoyVegas]

There's no point in really continuing to pick apart what each other say.  It's rediculous.  It's like a couple of school girls slap fighting.

So let's get back to the point at hand:

I am trying to make a profit on a game.  Very simple if you don't like it, don't buy it or make an offer on it.  Hell feel free to laugh and mock it.

Look man, you don't like me, that's cool, I dont like you either.  So lets not hold hands and sing at the campfire.

[Sinistron]

There's no point in really continuing to pick apart what each other say.  It's rediculous.  It's like a couple of school girls slap fighting.

It's really only me picking apart what you say Roy- your points against me are either assumptions, presumptions, or a little whelp about my attitude and about how you and a few others don't care for it. 

So let's get back to the point at hand:

We're STILL on the topic at hand Roy.  The thread is about an overpriced Magical Chase- and now there's another one on EBay- YOURS.  Perfectly relevant to the thread/point/topic at hand- and it'll still be relevant for discussion until this thread gets locked down.

I am trying to make a profit on a game.  Very simple if you don't like it, don't buy it or make an offer on it.  Hell feel free to laugh and mock it.

Now THAT'S the honesty I was looking for- coming right out and stating yourself to be the opportunistic greedy swine that you are- not beating around the bush- not trying to pretend you're one of us- one who actually cares about how the "value" of this game is skyrocketing past absurdity and realistically out of the hopeful hands of those who wish merely to play it- not to have it sitting there in mint condition on a pretty little shelf that swells pride and the ego every time they'd gaze lovingly at it.

And you haven't answered Geise- would you care to sell it to him for $250- turning a 75$ profit?  You yourself said you don't expect it to reach $400. 

[Sparky]

I never said $400 was the correct price for it.  It's up there for $400 to see if anyone is dumb enough to bite on it.

This line really bugs me Roy, and shows me you are out for yourself to make a profit... and no there is nothing wrong with that at all, get your top dollar.... but you have a community here (and on DP i believe) that has helped you out on your search for this game you needed, i just thought you would offer the game up first here again to sell as without these places you would be still fishing in ebay with the rest of them. 

[RoyVegas]

I never said $400 was the correct price for it.  It's up there for $400 to see if anyone is dumb enough to bite on it.

This line really bugs me Roy, and shows me you are out for yourself to make a profit... and no there is nothing wrong with that at all, get your top dollar.... but you have a community here (and on DP i believe) that has helped you out on your search for this game you needed, i just thought you would offer the game up first here again to sell as without these places you would be still fishing in ebay with the rest of them. 

I definately see your point Sparky.  I did get both of them off DP.  What I find funny about it though is that the same guy sold me both of them and wishes me the best with my auction yet everyone else is angry.  Sparky I did offer it here first to trade for boxes and I only got one reply that offered just a handful.

[Sparky]

I never said $400 was the correct price for it.  It's up there for $400 to see if anyone is dumb enough to bite on it.

This line really bugs me Roy, and shows me you are out for yourself to make a profit... and no there is nothing wrong with that at all, get your top dollar.... but you have a community here (and on DP i believe) that has helped you out on your search for this game you needed, i just thought you would offer the game up first here again to sell as without these places you would be still fishing in ebay with the rest of them. 

I definately see your point Sparky.  I did get both of them off DP.  What I find funny about it though is that the same guy sold me both of them and wishes me the best with my auction yet everyone else is angry.  Sparky I did offer it here first to trade for boxes and I only got one reply that offered just a handful.

You offered to trade not to sell right? whatever... you do what you want but is that extra profit worth it?

[Sinistron]

I never said $400 was the correct price for it.  It's up there for $400 to see if anyone is dumb enough to bite on it.

This line really bugs me Roy, and shows me you are out for yourself to make a profit... and no there is nothing wrong with that at all, get your top dollar.... but you have a community here (and on DP i believe) that has helped you out on your search for this game you needed, i just thought you would offer the game up first here again to sell as without these places you would be still fishing in ebay with the rest of them. 

I definately see your point Sparky.  I did get both of them off DP.  What I find funny about it though is that the same guy sold me both of them and wishes me the best with my auction yet everyone else is angry.  Sparky I did offer it here first to trade for boxes and I only got one reply that offered just a handful.

OH JESUS FORKING JONES WITH THE BOXES ALREADY.  Like you'd really trade this game for a couple of boxes.  Man you must think we're dumb.  Only way you'd consider it is if it was for practically all or most of the boxes on your list (as if anyone here would just happen to have an extra set of all of them just lying around)- and even then with reservations.  You had ZERO intention of really trading it here- as your actions now and your past tense choices of words on shout point to- so please- don't insult our intelligence with your "offer".

[jperryss]

What I find funny about it though is that the same guy sold me both of them and wishes me the best with my auction yet everyone else is angry.

That's because the guy that sold you yours obviously isn't trying to get his hands on one.

I decided awhile back that the PCE version will be the one I pick up, kinda just waiting for one to show up here as I really don't want to pay $180 for one on eBay and I haven't seen it anywhere else (though I know it's not as rare as the TG version).

[RoyVegas]

I never said $400 was the correct price for it.  It's up there for $400 to see if anyone is dumb enough to bite on it.

This line really bugs me Roy, and shows me you are out for yourself to make a profit... and no there is nothing wrong with that at all, get your top dollar.... but you have a community here (and on DP i believe) that has helped you out on your search for this game you needed, i just thought you would offer the game up first here again to sell as without these places you would be still fishing in ebay with the rest of them. 

I definately see your point Sparky.  I did get both of them off DP.  What I find funny about it though is that the same guy sold me both of them and wishes me the best with my auction yet everyone else is angry.  Sparky I did offer it here first to trade for boxes and I only got one reply that offered just a handful.

OH JESUS FORKING JONES WITH THE BOXES ALREADY.  Like you'd really trade this game for a couple of boxes.  Man you must think we're dumb.  Only way you'd consider it is if it was for practically all or most of the boxes on your list (as if anyone here would just happen to have an extra set of all of them just lying around)- and even then with reservations.  You had ZERO intention of really trading it here- as your actions now and your past tense choices of words on shout point to- so please- don't insult our intelligence with your "offer".

I never said I wanted to trade it for a couple boxes, why the fuck would I do that?  I would want a LOT of them.  Don't tell me what my intentions are, you have no idea what they are.  Once again your back at it, trying to sound the war drums and get everyone all pissed at me.  Sad really.

[guyjin]

I am trying to make a profit on a game.  Very simple if you don't like it, don't buy it or make an offer on it.

You are trying to make a profit on a game that you convinced one of us to sell to you at less than ebay price. you are, in effect, stealing from this community.
I intend to do much more than not make an offer - I intend to make you, and whatever alt accounts you come up with, a pariah on this forum.

[RoyVegas]

What I find funny about it though is that the same guy sold me both of them and wishes me the best with my auction yet everyone else is angry.

That's because the guy that sold you yours obviously isn't trying to get his hands on one.

I decided awhile back that the PCE version will be the one I pick up, kinda just waiting for one to show up here as I really don't want to pay $180 for one on eBay and I haven't seen it anywhere else (though I know it's not as rare as the TG version).

I think you hit the nail on the head here!  I understand people want one, fuck I did too.  But for people to jump all up in my shit for having an extra and selling it for a profit?  Someone in the world selling something for profit!!!  That never happens in this world...   LYNCH HIM!!!

[Sinistron]

Someone in the world selling something for profit!!!  That never happens in this world...   LYNCH HIM!!!

Happens all the time in the WORLD Roy- but what you keep missing is that this is a COMMUNITY.  We don't care for profiteers here- especially ones acting all buddy buddy just to get what they want then showing their real intentions- it's why some of us tend to sniff 'em out early- and you smelled like sweaty greed the second you entered...

Once again your back at it, trying to sound the war drums and get everyone all pissed at me.  Sad really.

Is it sad?  Because if that WAS what I was trying to do- it'd be working- and if it ISN'T (it isn't)- then it's just that everyone else sees clearly what a pig you are.

[RoyVegas]

I am trying to make a profit on a game.  Very simple if you don't like it, don't buy it or make an offer on it.

You are trying to make a profit on a game that you convinced one of us to sell to you at less than ebay price. you are, in effect, stealing from this community.
I intend to do much more than not make an offer - I intend to make you, and whatever alt accounts you come up with, a pariah on this forum.

I didn't get it from this forum.  I got it from a seller who set his price, I didn't even haggle.  How exactly could I be stealing from this community when this community had nothing to do with it?  Laughable

[Sparky]

I am trying to make a profit on a game.  Very simple if you don't like it, don't buy it or make an offer on it.

You are trying to make a profit on a game that you convinced one of us to sell to you at less than ebay price. you are, in effect, stealing from this community.
I intend to do much more than not make an offer - I intend to make you, and whatever alt accounts you come up with, a pariah on this forum.

I didn't get it from this forum.  I got it from a seller who set his price, I didn't even haggle.  How exactly could I be stealing from this community when this community had nothing to do with it?  Laughable

Someone here told you about DP and explained why you could not get to the selling area right away... so this place helped you right from the beginning.
Again do what you want but there will be no one here to stand behind you.

[guyjin]

I didn't get it from this forum.

Liar.

[RoyVegas]

I am trying to make a profit on a game.  Very simple if you don't like it, don't buy it or make an offer on it.

You are trying to make a profit on a game that you convinced one of us to sell to you at less than ebay price. you are, in effect, stealing from this community.
I intend to do much more than not make an offer - I intend to make you, and whatever alt accounts you come up with, a pariah on this forum.

I didn't get it from this forum.  I got it from a seller who set his price, I didn't even haggle.  How exactly could I be stealing from this community when this community had nothing to do with it?  Laughable

Someone here told you about DP and explained why you could not get to the selling area right away... so this place helped you right from the beginning.
Again do what you want but there will be no one here to stand behind you.

There wern't standing behind me in the first place.  Just some standing in front of me because they didnt like me from the get go.

[RoyVegas]

I didn't get it from this forum.

Liar.

Liar?  Look on digitpress.  I bought both of them there. 

You're right Sparky.  Someone here mentioned digitpress at one time or another.

[Sinistron]

Yet ANOTHER thing that I find amusing is Roy neglecting to mention on his little honest TRADE BOXES TO ME thread that the Magical Chase he has dangling there like a carrot is currently for sale on EBay.  

Yeah Roy- I wonder why some didn't like you from the get go?  Must be them, eh?

[Nazi NecroPhile]

There wern't standing behind me in the first place.  Just some standing in front of me because they didnt like me from the get go.

So we were all a bunch of unfriendly, unhelpful pricks from the get go, eh?  Perhaps you should just hop back in your clown car and ride away from this hostile circus.  I promise not to cry.

[RoyVegas]

Yet ANOTHER thing that I find amusing is Roy neglecting to mention on his little honest TRADE BOXES TO ME thread that the Magical Chase he has dangling there like a carrot is currently for sale on EBay.  

Yeah Roy- I wonder why some didn't like you from the get go?  Must be them, eh?

It was in the trade section days before it was on eBay.  Keep the war drums a banging Sinistron.

I didn't mean everyone was unhelpful NecroPhile, just a handful that seem to dominate this forum with their shitty attitudes.

[Sinistron]

It was in the trade section days before it was on eBay.

Where did I suggest that it wasn't?  I'm saying exactly what I said- let me repeat- "Yet ANOTHER thing that I find amusing is Roy neglecting to mention on his little honest TRADE BOXES TO ME thread that the Magical Chase he has dangling there like a carrot is currently for sale on EBay."  Seems pretty clear cut what I'm saying.

Keep the war drums a banging Sinistron.

Sure- because that's all these mindless sheep here can take, right?  They can't think for themselves- they need ME of all people- the one who according to you no one can stand because of my attitude (this is pretty convoluted) to tell them how to think.  Guyjin, Sparky, Geise, NecroPhile, JPerryss, Nectar and Runin in shout- these are my mindless zombie soldiers.  Onward soldiers!! Make Roy "Big Money" Vegas eat shit by nightfall- your heads depend on it!             

[guyjin]

BRAAAAAAAAAINS! 

Keep the war drums a banging Sinistron.

Interesting metaphor you've got there. 'Cuz you're about to be drummed out of here! 

[Nazi NecroPhile]

Speaking of hypocrites.....

But for people to jump all up in my shit for having an extra and selling it for a profit?  Someone in the world selling something for profit!!!  That never happens in this world...   LYNCH HIM!!!

Too funny!!!!  Are you kidding me?  If it sells for $400 then thats what the market says it's worth.  Wake up man!!  i can't help what people are willing to pay.  The Best offer is there for a reason, in case the market says its not worth $400.  Holy hell, I might make a few dollars, what a fucking dick I am!  Go yell at the buyers man. lol

If this is truly how you feel, Roy, then why did you create this thread admonishing a seller for trying to sell a new Duo and TG-16 for outlandish prices?  As in your auction, he is accepting offers and providing free shipping, so where's the problem?  I guess you only approve of the free market when it's lining your pockets.

[guyjin]

Speaking of hypocrites.....

But for people to jump all up in my shit for having an extra and selling it for a profit?  Someone in the world selling something for profit!!!  That never happens in this world...   LYNCH HIM!!!

Too funny!!!!  Are you kidding me?  If it sells for $400 then thats what the market says it's worth.  Wake up man!!  i can't help what people are willing to pay.  The Best offer is there for a reason, in case the market says its not worth $400.  Holy hell, I might make a few dollars, what a fucking dick I am!  Go yell at the buyers man. lol

If this is truly how you feel, Roy, then why did you create this thread admonishing a seller for trying to sell a new Duo and TG-16 for outlandish prices?  As in your auction, he is accepting offers and providing free shipping, so where's the problem?  I guess you only approve of the free market when it's lining your pockets.

Nice find, necro!

[RoyVegas]

Speaking of hypocrites.....

But for people to jump all up in my shit for having an extra and selling it for a profit?  Someone in the world selling something for profit!!!  That never happens in this world...   LYNCH HIM!!!

Too funny!!!!  Are you kidding me?  If it sells for $400 then thats what the market says it's worth.  Wake up man!!  i can't help what people are willing to pay.  The Best offer is there for a reason, in case the market says its not worth $400.  Holy hell, I might make a few dollars, what a fucking dick I am!  Go yell at the buyers man. lol

If this is truly how you feel, Roy, then why did you create this thread admonishing a seller for trying to sell a new Duo and TG-16 for outlandish prices?  As in your auction, he is accepting offers and providing free shipping, so where's the problem?  I guess you only approve of the free market when it's lining your pockets.

Interesting.  The difference to me is that mine has the possiblility of selling at $400(you said so yourself) since there is one up at $750.  Whereas his is Freakishly high.  Keep digging for shit to fight over.  GO GO GO!

[RoyVegas]

Speaking of hypocrites.....

But for people to jump all up in my shit for having an extra and selling it for a profit?  Someone in the world selling something for profit!!!  That never happens in this world...   LYNCH HIM!!!

Too funny!!!!  Are you kidding me?  If it sells for $400 then thats what the market says it's worth.  Wake up man!!  i can't help what people are willing to pay.  The Best offer is there for a reason, in case the market says its not worth $400.  Holy hell, I might make a few dollars, what a fucking dick I am!  Go yell at the buyers man. lol

If this is truly how you feel, Roy, then why did you create this thread admonishing a seller for trying to sell a new Duo and TG-16 for outlandish prices?  As in your auction, he is accepting offers and providing free shipping, so where's the problem?  I guess you only approve of the free market when it's lining your pockets.

Nice find, NecroPhile!

As the wagons circle!!!  Warparty Go!

[RoyVegas]

BRAAAAAAAAAINS! 

Keep the war drums a banging Sinistron.

Interesting metaphor you've got there. 'Cuz you're about to be drummed out of here! 

If you think a few angry individuals can run me off, you're wrong.  Im here because I enjoy the system, not because I seek anyones approval.

[guyjin]

Im here because I enjoy the system,

You're here because you enjoy money. you think you can make it off us - you think we're easy marks. you're wrong.

[Nazi NecroPhile]

The difference to me is that mine has the possiblility of selling at $400(you said so yourself) since there is one up at $750.

I never stated that yours could sell for $400, though anything is possible.  A week ago, I would've said that a boxed Magical Chase wouldn't go for more than $600, yet it is (ebay silliness knows no bounds).

Whereas his is Freakishly high.

That is irrelevant.  Either it's okay to fish for the big bucks and settle for whatever the market will bear, or it isn't.

Keep digging for shit to fight over.  GO GO GO!

One needn't dig to uncover your foolishness; it speaks for itself.

If you think a few angry individuals can run me off, you're wrong.  Im here because I enjoy the system, not because I seek anyones approval.

Good thing, 'cause you won't be gaining anyone's approval with your haughty attitude and abundant ignorance.

P.S. - You needn't triple post.  Just use the enter key on your keyboard to start a new line.

[RoyVegas]

Im here because I enjoy the system,

You're here because you enjoy money. you think you can make it off us - you think we're easy marks. you're wrong.

That's a pretty good one there!  Do you recall a post of me selling something?  I've tried to sell 3-4 things on ebay in the last 6 years.  You caught me there!  I only recall me making threads asking to buy or trade for things.  Can you show me different?

[Sparky]

BRAAAAAAAAAINS! 

Keep the war drums a banging Sinistron.

Interesting metaphor you've got there. 'Cuz you're about to be drummed out of here! 

If you think a few angry individuals can run me off, you're wrong.  Im here because I enjoy the system, not because I seek anyones approval.

A few??? Has anyone spoke up to support you man????

[guyjin]

I've tried to sell 3-4 things on ebay in the last 6 years.

I bet.

You caught me there!  I only recall me making threads asking to buy or trade for things.

So you can sell 'em on epay. that's the point.

[RoyVegas]

BRAAAAAAAAAINS! 

Keep the war drums a banging Sinistron.

Interesting metaphor you've got there. 'Cuz you're about to be drummed out of here! 

If you think a few angry individuals can run me off, you're wrong.  Im here because I enjoy the system, not because I seek anyones approval.

A few??? Has anyone spoke up to support you man????

Sparky, there are people that choose to speak up and there are people that choose to remain silent.  Just because people don't want to come out and be fucking chastised by the few angry people does NOT mean that I am not supported.  It just means they choose not to speak up and be trampled on.  

People here have taken whatever they wanted from what they have read and just ran with it.  There are a couple of people that know what the truth is.  There are also a few monkeys running around throwing poo.  Do they know the full story?  Have they bothered to try and find out.  Or is what you really see here people just throwing stones?
Noone is trying to ask me any reasoning on anything I have done.  Read it all yourself Sparky, people all over me.

[RoyVegas]

I've tried to sell 3-4 things on ebay in the last 6 years.

I bet.

You caught me there!  I only recall me making threads asking to buy or trade for things.

So you can sell 'em on epay. that's the point.

Yeah, once again another monkey thowing poo..  Well now, lets take a look at my eBay account and see what my seller history...  The link to it is earlier in this thread...  Hmm I haven't sold jack shit.  C'mon keep the brilliant ones coming.

[geddon_jt]

BRAAAAAAAAAINS! 

Keep the war drums a banging Sinistron.

Interesting metaphor you've got there. 'Cuz you're about to be drummed out of here! 

If you think a few angry individuals can run me off, you're wrong.  Im here because I enjoy the system, not because I seek anyones approval.

A few??? Has anyone spoke up to support you man????

Sparky, there are people that choose to speak up and there are people that choose to remain silent.  Just because people don't want to come out and be fucking chastised by the few angry people does NOT mean that I am not supported.  It just means they choose not to speak up and be trampled on.  

People here have taken whatever they wanted from what they have read and just ran with it.  There are a couple of people that know what the truth is.  There are also a few monkeys running around throwing poo.  Do they know the full story?  Have they bothered to try and find out.  Or is what you really see here people just throwing stones?
Noone is trying to ask me any reasoning on anything I have done.  Read it all yourself Sparky, people all over me.

Roy, I warned you about this!

Listen, anytime there is something Turbo or PCE related that is selling for big bucks, there is ALWAYS massive complaining and bitching from people on this site. I've gotten my share of flack for the same time of thing. This is a great site, and I can certainly understand people's anger at certain games being crazy expensive. But, it's just the way it is. These things are collectibles now and a lot of them can go for big bucks. It's a pity not every Turbo fan can afford a Magical Chase, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with Roy trying to make as much money as he can off his loose one. Sometimes that is the only way to expand your collection and get new games.

[guyjin]

Well now, lets take a look at my eBay account and see what my seller history... 

the seller history of one of your accounts.

Sparky, there are people that choose to speak up and there are people that choose to remain silent.

if any of you are reading this, speak up - my beef is with resellers, not fellow forum members.

Noone is trying to ask me any reasoning on anything I have done.  

your reasons are all to obvious.

[RoyVegas]

Well now, lets take a look at my eBay account and see what my seller history... 

the seller history of one of your accounts.

Sparky, there are people that choose to speak up and there are people that choose to remain silent.

if any of you are reading this, speak up - my beef is with resellers, not fellow forum members.

Noone is trying to ask me any reasoning on anything I have done.  

your reasons are all to obvious.

OMG you caught me!!!!  I MUST have multiple eBay accounts, now is a fucking conspiracy!!  Dude, you watch to many movies.

[guyjin]

there is absolutely nothing wrong with Roy trying to make as much money as he can off his loose one.

There is something wrong with it when he got it off of one of us for far less than its epay value. Consider the following:

There is a village. You live in this village. people grow stuff, raise animals, make tools, etc. they trade amongst themselves; because it's in their best interest for the village to thrive, they sell their goods for less than they would in the big city market.

Then some kid comes along, buys a bunch of stuff from his neighbors so he can 'have a feast', but then runs off to the big city market to make big bucks off their stuff. He comes back with bags of money, and repeats the cycle. Soon, all the villagers have to go to the big city market, or charge big city prices themselves. There is no more advantage to living in the village; soon, they'll migrate to the big city, and the village will just be a bunch of rotten shacks where a community once lived.

I don't want that to happen here.

[guyjin]

OMG you caught me!!!!  I MUST have multiple eBay accounts,

it's trivial to create them. Considering that you've already lied to us, why should we assume you're honest?

now is a fucking conspiracy!!  Dude, you watch to many movies.

A conspiracy requires 2 people, moron.

[Sinistron]

Roy, I warned you about this!

Listen, anytime there is something Turbo or PCE related that is selling for big bucks, there is ALWAYS massive complaining and bitching from people on this site. I've gotten my share of flack for the same time of thing. This is a great site, and I can certainly understand people's anger at certain games being crazy expensive. But, it's just the way it is. These things are collectibles now and a lot of them can go for big bucks. It's a pity not every Turbo fan can afford a Magical Chase, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with Roy trying to make as much money as he can off his loose one. Sometimes that is the only way to expand your collection and get new games.

Geddon- the situation that went down with you (to which- the big bully that I am, came out in defense of you https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=4864.15) doesn't apply here.  The situation with you was mostly Sign of Zeta getting in your face about an item that he wouldn't even consider buying to begin with- and your prices seemed fair- at least to a good many members.  Secondly- it's not merely about who can or who can't afford a Magical Chase (I CAN- even at Roy's prices) -- but it's about setting ridiculous prices for this game- which will make this game harder and harder for ANYONE to find at a decent price.

We're dealing with a reseller here- one who had help from the community a number of times- one who even got his system initially for like ten bucks with games or whatever- one who knows the delight in finding something cheap- but has no intention of helping anyone else out- just in lining his pockets and getting his pristine collection.  He has his Magical Chase listed on his trade thread while at the same time he clandestinely has it listed on Ebay for a gouged price- was making buddy buddy on this thread which is about- lo and behold- an overpriced Magical Chase auction.  He has fibbed as to his intentions- has contradicted himself on his opinion of overpricing (as pointed out by Necro) - has claimed that I am jealous of him and his holy collection, and really has nothing to say in his own defense other than some nonsense about war drums and hey I'm just trying to turn a profit and see how dumb people are.  Geddon- forget not that this is first and foremost a community- not a TG buyers and sellers market populated by resellers and price gougers.

[VestCunt]

hmm...11 replies while I've been typing this.  I'm just going to post it and hope it's still valid.

If it sells for $400 then thats what the market says it's worth.

Even without BIN, things generally sell on ebay for a little more than they're worth because one has to outbid everyone else on the planet and all of the resellers.  We all have different views on what's fair, but it has always struck me as lame to to find a good deal and then set a new higher price.  The Best Offer is a sort of nice gesture but this is not technically an auction and I don't see this as different than sellers like GameSquad.  

Personally, there have been a couple of times I've decided to part with things that I got a good deal on and I've felt pretty awkward setting a price.  What I usually do is a ten day auction, start it at a buck and make sure I do a damn good job of getting every key word possible in the item listing.  Doing this gives everybody a chance to get involved, as opposed to just the handful of high budget bidders, which creates a frenzy that rockets the price up in the last few hours.  Well-listed auctions with nice pictures, a good description and a low starting point do surprisingly well and no one can be accused of price gouging.  (After I got the U.S. version of Terraforming, I sold my PCE copy I bought for $40 and watched is go from $0.99 to $129).

Anyway, Roy got the loose version first, so I can see why he's parting with it. Hoping to trade it for boxes is a long shot, but makes sense in that those are all he needs for his collection (being open to some boxes + cash would probably increase his chances).

As far as the four hundred dollars goes, people tend to reach a consensus on prices after hanging around here for a year or two and I've seen lots of newcomers show up on the boards with prices in their heads that freak people out (myself included).  Roy's still fairly new around here and is trying to decide what to do with a game that he got for a good deal but could probably get a bundle for on ebay.  Without having spent the last five years hanging out with us bitching about scumbags like Bullseye, a high BIN price with the Best Offer option probably seemed like a fair compromise.  Again, it's not what I would do, but I'm trying to play devil's advocate and put myself in his shoes (sorry to keep talking about you in the third person, Roy.)  Sinistron and other have some good points, but Roy has made some good contributions on the boards and shouldn't be demonized.

OK, that's my two cents.  And hey, please watch the F-Bombs and potty mouthing!  Everyone!  Thanks.

EDITED for spelling

[Nazi NecroPhile]

People here have taken whatever they wanted from what they have read and just ran with it.  There are a couple of people that know what the truth is.  There are also a few monkeys running around throwing poo.  Do they know the full story?  Have they bothered to try and find out.  Or is what you really see here people just throwing stones?
Noone is trying to ask me any reasoning on anything I have done.  Read it all yourself Sparky, people all over me.

So what part of the story are we missing?  Though you've berated others for similar behavior, it's abundantly clear that you're not above selling for massive profits and at the expense of members of the gaming community (if you buy something at an honest price and resell it for profit, then you're depriving others from buying it at the better price).

I don't have a closed mind and this is an honest question, so please don't dismiss it out of hand.  You've chosen to pick up the cross of martyrdom, so convince me that I'm wrong.

Listen, anytime there is something Turbo or PCE related that is selling for big bucks, there is ALWAYS massive complaining and bitching from people on this site. I've gotten my share of flack for the same time of thing. This is a great site, and I can certainly understand people's anger at certain games being crazy expensive. But, it's just the way it is.

We rarely bitch about things selling for what they're worth, but rather when someone is asking (or sometimes receiving) far more than the normal value for the given item.  The problem doesn't lie in the value of Magical Chase, but rather in Roy lying about his intentions and taking away others' chance at getting the game for an honest price.

These things are collectibles now and a lot of them can go for big bucks. It's a pity not every Turbo fan can afford a Magical Chase, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with Roy trying to make as much money as he can off his loose one. Sometimes that is the only way to expand your collection and get new games.

And had he stated that he wanted to make as much money as possible, far fewer people would care.  Alas, he did not; instead he stated that he'd try to help out the community and offer it here first, which he most certainly did not do.  In this instance, Roy has irrefutably been both a liar and a hypocrite.

[geise]

Ya know Roy you already had a Magical Chase and then bought another.  Now you're selling it at some crazy price.  Why the hell did you want another to begin with?  If you have the money to buy all these Magical Chase games then why do you need to resell it so high.  Why not start the bid low and let people fight over it.  Then set a reserve if you want.  Rather than slamming a buy it now and hoping some (probably a reseller that doesn't play games) buys it for that insane price.

[Nazi NecroPhile]

Ya know Roy you already had a Magical Chase and then bought another.  Now you're selling it at some crazy price.  Why the hell did you want another to begin with?

He started with a loosey-goosey, bought another one with a manual, and is now selling the first copy.  There's nothing wrong with trading up.

[RoyVegas]

Ya know Roy you already had a Magical Chase and then bought another.  Now you're selling it at some crazy price.  Why the hell did you want another to begin with?

He started with a loosey-goosey, bought another one with a manual, and is now selling the first copy.  There's nothing wrong with trading up.

Thats totally correct.  I bought a loose one and the same seller messaged me again saying he had one with a manual..  Which I bought for the manual.  I took the card in the best shape for myself and am getting rid of the other.