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The worst rare games

Started by cybersalad, 10/05/2005, 01:05 AM

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cybersalad

Hey which games that are rare/semi-rare/sorta expensive actually suck?

I'd start off wiht City Hunter.  This game goes for $30+ on Ebay and JapanGameStock.  I found a loose HuCard for $16 in Japan recently.  Supposedly it's a good Rolling Thunder type game.

But I think it blows big-time.  It has some kind of story, so maybe I'm just not following it as I can't read Japanese.  But it's too adventury/boring to be any good for a gaijin such as myself.

Any other games that don't deserve their reputation?

GUTS

Yeah City Hunter sucks shit, awful game.

Kaze Kiri is the worst rare game I've played, it's fucking terrible.  The graphics are great but the gameplay is so boring and straight out of 1985 that it's pathetic, I hate that game.

PCEngineHell

The same can be said for both Netopia 1 and 2.If I remember right,Zelda came out in 85-86.

_Paul

Strangely, I quite like both City Hunter and Kaze Kiri. Probably a) the music and b) I'm a City Hunter fan anyway

TR0N

I like Kaze Kiri as well sure it's repetive, but i enjoy the heros moves and the music.
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Keranu

City Hunter (the game, haven't seen the series) is awesome. The gameplay is pretty basic, but not so flat, but the music and story bits mainly keep me interested in it, I love it.

Kaze Kiri has EXCELLENT graphics, EXCELLENT sound (I don't remember the music very well, but the sound effects were great from what I remembered),  and even MORE EXCELLENT controls. The game probably has the most impressive controls I've ever played for a game that uses the NES-style pad. However the gameplay itself is really bland and boring until the bosses, which were nice. If this game didn't have such boring gameplay, it would probably easily be the best ninja game ever made. I don't have any problem with classic gameplay in Kung Fu, in fact I love that kind of stuff, but the thing with Kaze Kiri is that it takes so brutally long to kill enemies that it's just no fun and it pretty much requires you to wait for a half hour until the boss comes in, the good stuff. Also the levels lack any platform elements, like in a Mario game. Saying it's the worst game ever made is ridiculous, but it's certainly not a great game or even a good game. If only it had more platform-style levels, if only...

Can't think of any rare/expensive games that suck at the moment, but pretty much every expensive/rare game isn't worth the price.
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Emerald Rocker

Kaze Kiri did have great control, although I found the graphics and music to be pretty modest.  GUTS insists this game has great graphics, but I'm not seeing it -- they're dark and pretty plain, I'd much rather watch something energized and colorful like Lords of Thunder or Fray or Shubibinman 3.  The music sounded awesome at first, but got repetitive fast.  The most unfortunate thing, though, is that Kung Fu actually had cooler enemies than Kaze Kiri.
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Keranu

Quote from: ZigThe most unfortunate thing, though, is that Kung Fu actually had cooler enemies than Kaze Kiri.

HAHAHA! That's true though :( .
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GUTS

Well by great graphics I mean that the animations and cut scenes are great, the rest of the game is very bland like you say.  The colors are pretty weak and the sprites aren't impressive other than they have pretty good animation.

Nutribrain

What about Renny Blaster? Weak controls, flickering graphics, the sound I don't remember. I only put it in once when I bought it. It's probably not the worst rare game but one of the most weak ones...

akamichi

Quote from: NutribrainWhat about Renny Blaster? Weak controls, flickering graphics, the sound I don't remember. I only put it in once when I bought it. It's probably not the worst rare game but one of the most weak ones...
Although I've never played the game, I've been wondering why this game is pricey.  I've never heard anything good about it either.

My take on City Hunter is that it's ok.  Nothing special.  I don't even consider it expensive and nowadays probably not even worth more than $10.  

Although I'm somewhat of a collector, I really don't like paying for a used game that costs more than the original "new" price.  Especially when that used copy can be all beat up or scratched.

What do people think of Fausette Amour?  It's the kind of game I like (platform run and jump) but it didn't really impress me.  Maybe I need to try it out again.  

Anybody have a rare PCE/TG game list?

PCEngineHell

Any prototype Jag and CD-I games.

Keranu

I want to play Fausette Armor, it looks like a fun game.
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DragonmasterDan

Strip Fighter for PCE sucks.

Since other people brought up non PCE games, Evolution for Neo Geo Pocket is terrible.
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D-Lite

Quote from: DragonmasterDanStrip Fighter for PCE sucks.
Saying that "sucks" is understatement of the year.

In my opinion, Bonk 3 ain't so hot, though I wouldn't say it sucks.
Steam Hearts is crap too.  Boring gameplay and average graphics at best.  

I'm VERY surprised no one has mentioned Darius Alpha.  The rarest game and probably the shittest game too.  Though maybe no one mentioned it because no one has played it?

QuoteSince other people brought up non PCE games, Evolution for Neo Geo Pocket is terrible.
*faints*  How dare you!  

Other craptastic rarities:
Pocket Reversi for NGPC
Any Atari 2600 game
And Kizuna Encounter for Neo Geo AES isn't crap, but for $12k, it is teh sux.
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TR0N

Quote from: akamichiWhat do people think of Fausette Amour?  It's the kind of game I like (platform run and jump) but it didn't really impress me.  Maybe I need to try it out again.  
I enjoy it reminds me of, Valis but with BionicCommando game play mix in.
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Keranu

Damn, Pocket Reversi for NGPC is a rare/expensive game? Is it just like any other reversi game you see? That's retarded, haha.
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OldRover

Golden Axe for the PCE is the worst port ever made. I think the C64 port was better.

For non-NEC games: how about that crapfest that was Lunar Eternal Blue Complete for the PSX? Wow...what a shitty game. They should have stopped making Lunar at The Silver Star because Silver Star Story was pretty llama as well.
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Keranu

I thought Eternal Blue both for Sega CD and Playstation were pretty cool games.
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Emerald Rocker

The Sega CD one was great.  The PSX version was too emasculated for my manly tastes.
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DragonmasterDan

Quote from: Emerald RockerThe Sega CD one was great.  The PSX version was too emasculated for my manly tastes.

The remakes of both games were watered down quite a bit in terms of story and playability. The dungeons got substancially smaller, the overworld map was simplified with no encounters and shrunk substancially, the scenerio changes were really uncalled for. Eternal Blue wasn't messed with in terms of story as much but the gameplay was definitely dumbed down.
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GUTS

Yeah Eternal Blue on Sega CD is one of the best RPGs ever made.   I was really disappointed with the PSX version.

jlued686

I thought Silver Star Story was great...both versions.  You want a bad Lunar?  Try the newly released DS version...eww...

Back on topic, I don't think Terraforming is that great for a rare title.  Not worth the big bucks, IMO.

TR0N

I enjoy the remakes of lunar on the ps1.

Still i do perfer the sega cd version more.

If you realy want a bad lunar game try lunar magic school :P
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ParanoiaDragon

I actually prefer the PSX versions of Lunar, it's because of those 2 remakes, that it became my 3rd favorite series ever.  And I actually enjoy the later Lunar as well......but, it's not a great game either.  I think maybe the graphics & music are what are holding me on, besides the fact that it is Lunar.  If it were of some random series I'd never played before, I wouldn't bother with it!
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VestCunt

I think i already said this somewhere, but Super Air Zonk sucks.

While we're on the subject of Play Station remakes, what do you'll think of R-Types on PS vs. R-Type Complete SCD?

I just got R-Types in the mail today.  It has some pretty sweet intro movie scenes and i like the original music compared to the R-Type complete remixes.  When it comes to gameplay i still prefer the Turbo version.
It's funny, the Playstation version is nice, but it still not that far beyond what the SMS accomplished in 1990.
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ParanoiaDragon

Saying Super Air Zonk sucks I don't think is 100% of everybody's opinion, I love the game personally, in some ways more then the original, I mainly like the level design better.  The things I wish it had were choices of weapons & paralax, but it's too late for that I suppose :roll:
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GUTS

SMS R-Type was awesome, that game spoiled me for most NES shooters for years.  I'd play something like Gradius and be all, "I'm supposed to fight an enemy armada with a .22 pistol?  That's all the enemies they can fit on the screen?  NO GIGANTIC BATTLESHIP LEVEL??!".  Man that was a great port.

Keranu

I want to try out the Super CD Airzonk because I'm sure I would think it's much better than what people say about it and there was a great review for it somewhere saying how it's not nearly as bad as what people say about it and is even better than the HuCard. I need to pick up the Japanese version sometime.
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Yamazaki

Darius Alpha is quite crappy. Compared to the other shooters on PCE.


The worts could be easily NHKs Akinjin Man - Indo no Hono

never seen lower than 2000$ - its a education game for math!

esteban

Quote from: YamazakiDarius Alpha is quite crappy. Compared to the other shooters on PCE.


The worts could be easily NHKs Akinjin Man - Indo no Hono

never seen lower than 2000$ - its a education game for math!
!!! Insanity. Now, if this were strip-math, I could see the appeal (or even monster-math)...
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Keranu

Wait a minute, that's the game with the three cute animal characters right? I remember one of them being a girly mouse. If it's the game I am thinking of that I have played on Magic Engine, then it should be platform based with cute littles animals and I think some mini games every now and then, such as a jigsaw puzzle; seems like it could have been based off of a Japanese children show. Anyways if that's the game, DAMN I had no idea it was so expensive! I actually really enjoy the game!  :oops:
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ParanoiaDragon

I used to have that game, I got it for 20 bucks off ebay.......if it's the game I'm thinking of, it sucks.
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Keranu

Nevermind, a checked some minutes ago while checking the name of a PCE game for another post (Outlive :D ). The game I am thinking of is Niko Niko Pun, not the NHK game, which is a ancient Nihon strategy game. It looks like it might be just a little decent if I could understand it better.
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ParanoiaDragon

Yeah, Niko Niko Pun, absolutly stinks, there's really not much you can do in the game.  Wish I never bought it.
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Keranu

Niko Niko Pun rules man and there is plenty you can do in the game!
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ParanoiaDragon

Are you joking or serious?  I beat the game, & it was just plain boring for me, maybe I missed something, I don't know :?
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Keranu

I am dead serious! I love the game! You should know me by now, hehe, I can't help but to love games people classify as garbage :D .
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ParanoiaDragon

Heh, I thought it was usually me that likes games that others consider garbage.  Hell, it's the same for anything.  For instance, I personally enjoyed Fantastic Four, but soooo many people thought it was horrible, & I can't figure out why!  So, it actually made me go see it again, & I like the movie even more, partially due to other's hating it, & I can't for the life of me figure out why.  Same with Kung Pow(absolute classic), The Incredible Hulk(not the best, but way better then others say it is), etc.  That's why I love Impossamole & other games that people hate, cuz their hate intensifies what I like about that game.  And it's not that I deny quirks in any game or movie, I acknowledge them when I see them, but I still enjoy them around the quirks :D
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Tatsujin

how can you people say darius alpha is a shit game? it's just not made to play it, so it doesn't count  *hehe* :)

steam hearts is a really crap compared to its price and could only be sold do to its content of harmless nudity cut scenes.

btw: kaze kiri is a famos game, even it's a bit boring.
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I can't believe people say City Hunter is crap. I think it's a great game. Same goes for Neutopia 1 & 2. Best RPG's on the system and better than Zelda.

Keranu

Keranu love City Hunter.
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_Paul

Although the game doesn't use a millionth of the potential of the license, I still enjoy City Hunter. The music is great, what you'd expect from Sunsoft in their day.

cozzie

Kaze Kiri is ok great music be it isnt a patch on the best Ninja game of all time Super shinobi Megadrive awesome music and graphics.

Darius Alpha isnt that bad, Ive played worse Pc engine shooters.

pixeljunkie

Kaze Kiri gets a big "meh" from me...not worth the price tag.

Waterworld for Virtual Boy is hard to get and almost unplayable its so awful.

As far as PC Engine is concerned...Golden Axe isn't rare, but one of the stinkiest piles of dung I've ever set eyes on.

I was very disappointed with Steam Hearts...but I won't sell it ;)

Also, I thought Fray was slightly disappointing as well.

rolins

Terra Cresta II is another disappointment. Not sure if it's rare, but I know it's very expensive on ebay these days. The gameplay is stale and its soundtrack hardly kept me awake.

Tatsujin

TCII isn't that bad. in fact it's a pretty good and solid shooter. but yes, it isn't that cheap.
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Keranu

Never played TCII, but I thought the first one sucked.
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Quote from: pixeljunkieWaterworld for Virtual Boy is hard to get and almost unplayable its so awful.
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I played this game at the convention I went to recently and I thought this game was pretty cool actually! I don't see how it is unplayable since I was able to control it just fine and I dug the old school gameplay with the virtual 3d enviroment :) . I had no idea this game is rare though, I wouldn't mind getting it if I had a Virtual Boy.
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Quote from: KeranuNever played TCII, but I thought the first one sucked.

I've never played to arcade, but the Nes port is one my favs and one of those hidden gems thats worth tracking down.

I always loved the music on first stage, it sounded weird the first time I heard it all those years ago. Now I'm trying to track down a complete game for myself since love it so much.